(15 Jun 2016, 8:10 pm)peter While I have not calculated the PVR, I have attempted the daytime requirement for each of the services with significant changes:
Q3 - 9
10/10A/10B/10X - 15
11 - 8
40/41 - 5
42 - 6
57 - 8
58 - 8
(The 12/12A timetable is on the website in full - of course they only need to do the timetable for 'one direction' as they are displayed as loop services with one going in either direction - both 'directions' are on the same timetable pane - the number of daytime vehicles needed remains at 5 from what I can see)
(15 Jun 2016, 8:10 pm)peter While I have not calculated the PVR, I have attempted the daytime requirement for each of the services with significant changes:
Q3 - 9
10/10A/10B/10X - 15
11 - 8
40/41 - 5
42 - 6
57 - 8
58 - 8
(The 12/12A timetable is on the website in full - of course they only need to do the timetable for 'one direction' as they are displayed as loop services with one going in either direction - both 'directions' are on the same timetable pane - the number of daytime vehicles needed remains at 5 from what I can see)
(15 Jun 2016, 8:13 pm)NK53 TKT I wonder what will happen with 8310-8315?
(15 Jun 2016, 8:13 pm)NK53 TKT I wonder what will happen with 8310-8315?
(15 Jun 2016, 8:18 pm)S813 FVK Where else can they go other than the Q3? On the plus side though, if the services continue to be successful (which the Q3 must be to have the extension it is receiving considered), then I would suggest new vehicles being brought in within the next couple of years.That's a nice thought but my point is what will run the other three boards if they stay put?
(15 Jun 2016, 8:18 pm)S813 FVK Where else can they go other than the Q3? On the plus side though, if the services continue to be successful (which the Q3 must be to have the extension it is receiving considered), then I would suggest new vehicles being brought in within the next couple of years.That's a nice thought but my point is what will run the other three boards if they stay put?
(15 Jun 2016, 8:19 pm)NK53 TKT That's a nice thought but my point is what will run the other three boards if they stay put?
(15 Jun 2016, 8:19 pm)NK53 TKT That's a nice thought but my point is what will run the other three boards if they stay put?
And working it out this way, if Riverside's / Hexham's fleet remain the same, then it will be the following:
- 7x B9TL Geminis at Hexham
- 8x B9TL Geminis at Riverside + 1x B7TL Gemini
That then leaves the following:
- 1x B7TL Gemini at Hexham which is fine
- 2x B7TL Geminis at Riverside covering a total PVR of 15 (9x TEN and 6x TTX)
2x spares covering a total PVR of 15, 6 of which are prone to breakdowns and even delays caused by RTAs, bad weather etc, there needs to be another vehicle brought over to Riverside making sure that there is still a spare vehicle available to cover for the TEN and that doesn't include a 'conventional' double deck vehicle. Take this for an example:
- 6043 has a warning light before leaving the depot.
- A major RTC happens on the A19 leaving 1x of the vehicles stuck in severe traffic and the outbound service from Newcastle needs a vehicle deployed.
That then leaves the TEN (10A / 10B) services with no suitable spare vehicles.
Whatever vehicle is (if any?) brought into Riverside is another question but there does need to be one.
There seems to be a Gemini kicking around on Gateshead locals, schools, spare in the Interchange quite frequently, therefore I would say 2 spare Geminis would be ok.
If 3 buses were off I'm sure putting an East Lancs B7TL or even a single deck on short Ten's wouldn't be the end of the world.
Another older bus would need to be brought in to keep the spare double deck numbers the same, assuming Riverside aren't losing any scholars in the next school year.
(15 Jun 2016, 8:10 pm)peter While I have not calculated the PVR, I have attempted the daytime requirement for each of the services with significant changes:
Q3 - 9
10/10A/10B/10X - 15
11 - 8
40/41 - 5
42 - 6
57 - 8
58 - 8
(The 12/12A timetable is on the website in full - of course they only need to do the timetable for 'one direction' as they are displayed as loop services with one going in either direction - both 'directions' are on the same timetable pane - the number of daytime vehicles needed remains at 5 from what I can see)
(15 Jun 2016, 8:10 pm)peter While I have not calculated the PVR, I have attempted the daytime requirement for each of the services with significant changes:
Q3 - 9
10/10A/10B/10X - 15
11 - 8
40/41 - 5
42 - 6
57 - 8
58 - 8
(The 12/12A timetable is on the website in full - of course they only need to do the timetable for 'one direction' as they are displayed as loop services with one going in either direction - both 'directions' are on the same timetable pane - the number of daytime vehicles needed remains at 5 from what I can see)
(15 Jun 2016, 1:02 pm)Michael New timetables for the upcoming changes on the 24th July and the 31st July are now going on the GNE site...
Some are still in the VOSA style for the timetables... mainly the likes of the new 11 etc.
Edit:
The new 11 route is long - running half hourly.
42 - half hourly between North Shields and Benton ASDA, then hourly between Asda and Cramlington Manor Walks.
57 is staying every 20 minutes
58 is dropping to every 12 minutes
(15 Jun 2016, 1:02 pm)Michael New timetables for the upcoming changes on the 24th July and the 31st July are now going on the GNE site...
Some are still in the VOSA style for the timetables... mainly the likes of the new 11 etc.
Edit:
The new 11 route is long - running half hourly.
42 - half hourly between North Shields and Benton ASDA, then hourly between Asda and Cramlington Manor Walks.
57 is staying every 20 minutes
58 is dropping to every 12 minutes
(15 Jun 2016, 8:33 pm)park5354 Could put green branding onto 8316/17/18, and get 8325/26/27 from Deptford into purple Quaylink, along with 8328 back as a spare.
Service 61 could then get 4978-82 from Percy Main, with 5377-80 for 19 at Percy Main (with a red scania as backup)
(15 Jun 2016, 8:33 pm)park5354 Could put green branding onto 8316/17/18, and get 8325/26/27 from Deptford into purple Quaylink, along with 8328 back as a spare.
Service 61 could then get 4978-82 from Percy Main, with 5377-80 for 19 at Percy Main (with a red scania as backup)
(16 Jun 2016, 12:47 pm)MVK 500R Few unhappy people posting on Facebook again about the changes.
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(16 Jun 2016, 12:47 pm)MVK 500R Few unhappy people posting on Facebook again about the changes.
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(16 Jun 2016, 1:12 pm)Andreos1 Just noticed a query from someone who is travelling from Chopwell to Blaydon on a Sunday. The response from the FB bod, suggest they travel via Newcastle to complete the journey. That can't be right - surely?Aye, saw that too.
(16 Jun 2016, 12:28 pm)Kuyoyo Can't see 5377 moving from Riverside - handy to have any tachograph fitted vehicle remain at Riverside for the X9/X10
Might it not make more sense to send the spare long Versas to Deptford for the 61 and have 8306-9 move to Riverside for the Q3?
(16 Jun 2016, 12:28 pm)Kuyoyo Can't see 5377 moving from Riverside - handy to have any tachograph fitted vehicle remain at Riverside for the X9/X10
Might it not make more sense to send the spare long Versas to Deptford for the 61 and have 8306-9 move to Riverside for the Q3?
(16 Jun 2016, 1:12 pm)Andreos1 Just noticed a query from someone who is travelling from Chopwell to Blaydon on a Sunday. The response from the FB bod, suggest they travel via Newcastle to complete the journey. That can't be right - surely?
(16 Jun 2016, 1:12 pm)Andreos1 Just noticed a query from someone who is travelling from Chopwell to Blaydon on a Sunday. The response from the FB bod, suggest they travel via Newcastle to complete the journey. That can't be right - surely?
(16 Jun 2016, 1:12 pm)Andreos1 Just noticed a query from someone who is travelling from Chopwell to Blaydon on a Sunday. The response from the FB bod, suggest they travel via Newcastle to complete the journey. That can't be right - surely?
(16 Jun 2016, 1:12 pm)Andreos1 Just noticed a query from someone who is travelling from Chopwell to Blaydon on a Sunday. The response from the FB bod, suggest they travel via Newcastle to complete the journey. That can't be right - surely?
(16 Jun 2016, 3:45 pm)Adrian It doesn't surprise me. To get from Washington to Chester early on a Sunday, you'd have to get the 4 to Heworth, 27 to Gateshead and 21 to Chester.
But on the same token, if there were plenty people wanting to make that journey, there'd be a bus route there. Not great, but it's the system we have.
(16 Jun 2016, 3:45 pm)Adrian It doesn't surprise me. To get from Washington to Chester early on a Sunday, you'd have to get the 4 to Heworth, 27 to Gateshead and 21 to Chester.
But on the same token, if there were plenty people wanting to make that journey, there'd be a bus route there. Not great, but it's the system we have.
(16 Jun 2016, 8:04 am)BJ10VUS Could they brand one of the 'Citylink' Versas as 'South Tyne' to replace the Solar, or are the longer Versas still too small to meet the requirements of the contract?
(16 Jun 2016, 8:04 am)BJ10VUS Could they brand one of the 'Citylink' Versas as 'South Tyne' to replace the Solar, or are the longer Versas still too small to meet the requirements of the contract?
