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S813 FVK



6,030
16 Jun 2016, 4:01 pm #3,221
(16 Jun 2016, 3:54 pm)South Tyne Lad Long Versa's should be considered as a Full Size Single Deck replacement as there only 0.3m smaller than a full size vehicle ( Example, A Solar )
Though as the service offering is pretty basic on here, With no Wifi or NSAs, It wouldn't put them to good use on here.

The 11.7m Versas should also be considered as full sized single deckers because they are in the 53xx series of fleet numbers.
S813 FVK
16 Jun 2016, 4:01 pm #3,221

(16 Jun 2016, 3:54 pm)South Tyne Lad Long Versa's should be considered as a Full Size Single Deck replacement as there only 0.3m smaller than a full size vehicle ( Example, A Solar )
Though as the service offering is pretty basic on here, With no Wifi or NSAs, It wouldn't put them to good use on here.

The 11.7m Versas should also be considered as full sized single deckers because they are in the 53xx series of fleet numbers.

Michael



19,168
16 Jun 2016, 4:46 pm #3,222
(16 Jun 2016, 2:37 pm)Dan No, it wouldn't.

At the moment; every single board on the Quaylink Q3 has at least one journey (early morning/late evening) which is secured by Nexus, stipulating the use of a Euro 5 vehicle (with a minimum capacity of 44). As 8306 - 8309 are Euro 4, these would not fulfil the contractual requirements.

Not forgetting that the Citylink branded Optare Versas also have Next Stop Announcements - why go to the unnecessary cost of fitting this equipment to 8306 - 8309 when it could be avoided?

So does that confirm the Q3 will use 2 of the Versa's from CityLink 58?

What about the other 2, where will they go?
Edited 16 Jun 2016, 4:48 pm by Michael.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
16 Jun 2016, 4:46 pm #3,222

(16 Jun 2016, 2:37 pm)Dan No, it wouldn't.

At the moment; every single board on the Quaylink Q3 has at least one journey (early morning/late evening) which is secured by Nexus, stipulating the use of a Euro 5 vehicle (with a minimum capacity of 44). As 8306 - 8309 are Euro 4, these would not fulfil the contractual requirements.

Not forgetting that the Citylink branded Optare Versas also have Next Stop Announcements - why go to the unnecessary cost of fitting this equipment to 8306 - 8309 when it could be avoided?

So does that confirm the Q3 will use 2 of the Versa's from CityLink 58?

What about the other 2, where will they go?


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Tom



6,138
16 Jun 2016, 4:49 pm #3,223
(16 Jun 2016, 4:46 pm)Michael So does that confirm the Q3 will use 2 of the Versa's from CityLink 58?

What about the other 2, where will they go?

The Q3 needs three I think as the PVR is 9 and it looks there's only 6 Quaylink buses
Tom
16 Jun 2016, 4:49 pm #3,223

(16 Jun 2016, 4:46 pm)Michael So does that confirm the Q3 will use 2 of the Versa's from CityLink 58?

What about the other 2, where will they go?

The Q3 needs three I think as the PVR is 9 and it looks there's only 6 Quaylink buses

Michael



19,168
16 Jun 2016, 4:50 pm #3,224
(16 Jun 2016, 4:49 pm)Tom The Q3 needs three I think as the PVR is 9 and it looks there's only 6 Quaylink buses

It could be, wonder where the last one will go, thats if it moves depots...

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
16 Jun 2016, 4:50 pm #3,224

(16 Jun 2016, 4:49 pm)Tom The Q3 needs three I think as the PVR is 9 and it looks there's only 6 Quaylink buses

It could be, wonder where the last one will go, thats if it moves depots...


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

S813 FVK



6,030
16 Jun 2016, 4:55 pm #3,225
(16 Jun 2016, 4:50 pm)Michael It could be, wonder where the last one will go, thats if it moves depots...

Would it not be best to keep it at Riverside? Could just make it an extra spare and get another Renown withdrawn.
S813 FVK
16 Jun 2016, 4:55 pm #3,225

(16 Jun 2016, 4:50 pm)Michael It could be, wonder where the last one will go, thats if it moves depots...

Would it not be best to keep it at Riverside? Could just make it an extra spare and get another Renown withdrawn.

peter



993
16 Jun 2016, 5:24 pm #3,226
Did the Q3 PVR not recently increase meaning that a Citaro needed to be allocated??? If this is still the case, all 4 Citylink Versa's may be repainted for the Q3 - though it seems most likely that at least one will become a Red 'spare'

Three of the Silver Citaro's will most likely be repainted for the 57 leaving the remaining two as 'Red' spares.

Two of the Nexus solo's will most likely be repainted Indigo for the 40/41/42.

And lastly of course, eight Solar's end up blue for the 11.
peter
16 Jun 2016, 5:24 pm #3,226

Did the Q3 PVR not recently increase meaning that a Citaro needed to be allocated??? If this is still the case, all 4 Citylink Versa's may be repainted for the Q3 - though it seems most likely that at least one will become a Red 'spare'

Three of the Silver Citaro's will most likely be repainted for the 57 leaving the remaining two as 'Red' spares.

Two of the Nexus solo's will most likely be repainted Indigo for the 40/41/42.

And lastly of course, eight Solar's end up blue for the 11.

park5354



406
16 Jun 2016, 5:30 pm #3,227
(16 Jun 2016, 4:49 pm)Tom The Q3 needs three I think as the PVR is 9 and it looks there's only 6 Quaylink buses

Still think that 8316/17/18  should go Quaylink green, so that 8310-18 are all for Q3 (all same batch and standard)

5388 Quaylink Purple
5387 Quaylink Purple
5386 Quaylink Purple


5377 Red (Swop with 8328) to give Quaylink a dedicated spare of similar spec, and Drifter a spare of similar spec (NSA)
park5354
16 Jun 2016, 5:30 pm #3,227

(16 Jun 2016, 4:49 pm)Tom The Q3 needs three I think as the PVR is 9 and it looks there's only 6 Quaylink buses

Still think that 8316/17/18  should go Quaylink green, so that 8310-18 are all for Q3 (all same batch and standard)

5388 Quaylink Purple
5387 Quaylink Purple
5386 Quaylink Purple


5377 Red (Swop with 8328) to give Quaylink a dedicated spare of similar spec, and Drifter a spare of similar spec (NSA)

Tom



6,138
16 Jun 2016, 5:33 pm #3,228
(16 Jun 2016, 5:24 pm)peter Did the Q3 PVR not recently increase meaning that a Citaro needed to be allocated??? If this is still the case, all 4 Citylink Versa's may be repainted for the Q3 - though it seems most likely that at least one will become a Red 'spare'

Three of the Silver Citaro's will most likely be repainted for the 57 leaving the remaining two as 'Red' spares.

Two of the Nexus solo's will most likely be repainted Indigo for the 40/41/42.

And lastly of course, eight Solar's end up blue for the 11.

The Nexus Solos would need to be refurbished to indiGo spec I'd imagine?
Edited 16 Jun 2016, 5:33 pm by Tom.
Tom
16 Jun 2016, 5:33 pm #3,228

(16 Jun 2016, 5:24 pm)peter Did the Q3 PVR not recently increase meaning that a Citaro needed to be allocated??? If this is still the case, all 4 Citylink Versa's may be repainted for the Q3 - though it seems most likely that at least one will become a Red 'spare'

Three of the Silver Citaro's will most likely be repainted for the 57 leaving the remaining two as 'Red' spares.

Two of the Nexus solo's will most likely be repainted Indigo for the 40/41/42.

And lastly of course, eight Solar's end up blue for the 11.

The Nexus Solos would need to be refurbished to indiGo spec I'd imagine?

park5354



406
16 Jun 2016, 5:37 pm #3,229
(16 Jun 2016, 5:33 pm)Tom The Nexus Solos would need to be refurbished to indiGo spec I'd imagine?
Could repaint 2 Venture solos for Indigo (N Tyne), and repaint 625/626 into Venture colours.
park5354
16 Jun 2016, 5:37 pm #3,229

(16 Jun 2016, 5:33 pm)Tom The Nexus Solos would need to be refurbished to indiGo spec I'd imagine?
Could repaint 2 Venture solos for Indigo (N Tyne), and repaint 625/626 into Venture colours.

park5354



406
16 Jun 2016, 5:46 pm #3,230
Would like to see 5320/21/22/23/24 given Crusader branding, allowing 5310/11/12/13/14 to get a much needed repaint. 5312/13/14 Blue for Citylink 57. 5310 red spare, and 5311 silver as the extra bus for TEN.
park5354
16 Jun 2016, 5:46 pm #3,230

Would like to see 5320/21/22/23/24 given Crusader branding, allowing 5310/11/12/13/14 to get a much needed repaint. 5312/13/14 Blue for Citylink 57. 5310 red spare, and 5311 silver as the extra bus for TEN.

peter



993
16 Jun 2016, 5:58 pm #3,231
(16 Jun 2016, 5:24 pm)peter Did the Q3 PVR not recently increase meaning that a Citaro needed to be allocated??? If this is still the case, all 4 Citylink Versa's may be repainted for the Q3 - though it seems most likely that at least one will become a Red 'spare'

Three of the Silver Citaro's will most likely be repainted for the 57 leaving the remaining two as 'Red' spares.

Two of the Nexus solo's will most likely be repainted Indigo for the 40/41/42.

And lastly of course, eight Solar's end up blue for the 11.

Alternatively the 4 Citylink Versa's and 1 spare Versa move to Hexham for the X84/5 displacing the better L94s for the 61 or even just the Versa's move direct to the 61 with 8324-8328 moving to Riverside for the Q3/Spare role.
peter
16 Jun 2016, 5:58 pm #3,231

(16 Jun 2016, 5:24 pm)peter Did the Q3 PVR not recently increase meaning that a Citaro needed to be allocated??? If this is still the case, all 4 Citylink Versa's may be repainted for the Q3 - though it seems most likely that at least one will become a Red 'spare'

Three of the Silver Citaro's will most likely be repainted for the 57 leaving the remaining two as 'Red' spares.

Two of the Nexus solo's will most likely be repainted Indigo for the 40/41/42.

And lastly of course, eight Solar's end up blue for the 11.

Alternatively the 4 Citylink Versa's and 1 spare Versa move to Hexham for the X84/5 displacing the better L94s for the 61 or even just the Versa's move direct to the 61 with 8324-8328 moving to Riverside for the Q3/Spare role.

peter



993
16 Jun 2016, 6:00 pm #3,232
(16 Jun 2016, 5:46 pm)park5354 Would like to see 5320/21/22/23/24 given Crusader branding, allowing 5310/11/12/13/14 to get a much needed repaint.  5312/13/14 Blue for Citylink 57.  5310 red spare, and 5311 silver as the extra bus for TEN.

Or even two Silver Citaro's could be branded for the 10 to operate the short 10As
peter
16 Jun 2016, 6:00 pm #3,232

(16 Jun 2016, 5:46 pm)park5354 Would like to see 5320/21/22/23/24 given Crusader branding, allowing 5310/11/12/13/14 to get a much needed repaint.  5312/13/14 Blue for Citylink 57.  5310 red spare, and 5311 silver as the extra bus for TEN.

Or even two Silver Citaro's could be branded for the 10 to operate the short 10As

16 Jun 2016, 6:44 pm #3,233
PB0003954/682 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Newcastle Haymarket and Quorum Business Park, Benton Lane given service number 554 effective from 24-Jul-2016. To amend Route, Stopping Places and Timetable.
NK53 TKT
16 Jun 2016, 6:44 pm #3,233

PB0003954/682 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Newcastle Haymarket and Quorum Business Park, Benton Lane given service number 554 effective from 24-Jul-2016. To amend Route, Stopping Places and Timetable.

Michael



19,168
16 Jun 2016, 6:51 pm #3,234
GNE have uploaded the new 700/701 timetable for the summer season which is from 25 June to 16 September 2016.


Remains every 20 minutes - Monday -Friday daytime - only runs until around 8pm 

Saturdays - every 30 minutes

Sunday service returns - half hourly - runs between 10:40am till 17:10pm 


701 is withdrawn


http://www.simplygo.com/download/publication/79207.44
Edited 16 Jun 2016, 6:56 pm by Michael.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
16 Jun 2016, 6:51 pm #3,234

GNE have uploaded the new 700/701 timetable for the summer season which is from 25 June to 16 September 2016.


Remains every 20 minutes - Monday -Friday daytime - only runs until around 8pm 

Saturdays - every 30 minutes

Sunday service returns - half hourly - runs between 10:40am till 17:10pm 


701 is withdrawn


http://www.simplygo.com/download/publication/79207.44


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Ambassador



1,855
16 Jun 2016, 8:06 pm #3,235
I know the 554 is fairly limited but the runs from Newcastle are fairly disappointing. Nothing to drag anyone away from Arriva or Network One

One 7.15am service and considerably slower than the alternatives

Wistfully stuck in the 90s
Ambassador
16 Jun 2016, 8:06 pm #3,235

I know the 554 is fairly limited but the runs from Newcastle are fairly disappointing. Nothing to drag anyone away from Arriva or Network One

One 7.15am service and considerably slower than the alternatives


Wistfully stuck in the 90s

Andreos1



14,218
16 Jun 2016, 10:21 pm #3,236
(16 Jun 2016, 3:21 pm)MurdnunoC Irrespective of the upcoming service revisions, someone travelling from Chopwell to Blaydon (using a GNE ticket) would need to catch the 47 to either Swalwell Roundabout or Metrocentre and catch a 49/49A (from Swalwell) or 10/10A/10B from Metrocentre to Blaydon. Alternatively, if they have a Network One pass, it's possible to catch a bus the 47 to High Spen and transfer onto either the R3/R4 to Blaydon.

The FB bod is incorrect on this occasion.

Thought as much (whether before or after the changes).
I couldn't see why a change of buses couldn't happen prior to Newcastle, at the places like you mention.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
16 Jun 2016, 10:21 pm #3,236

(16 Jun 2016, 3:21 pm)MurdnunoC Irrespective of the upcoming service revisions, someone travelling from Chopwell to Blaydon (using a GNE ticket) would need to catch the 47 to either Swalwell Roundabout or Metrocentre and catch a 49/49A (from Swalwell) or 10/10A/10B from Metrocentre to Blaydon. Alternatively, if they have a Network One pass, it's possible to catch a bus the 47 to High Spen and transfer onto either the R3/R4 to Blaydon.

The FB bod is incorrect on this occasion.

Thought as much (whether before or after the changes).
I couldn't see why a change of buses couldn't happen prior to Newcastle, at the places like you mention.


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

MurdnunoC



3,975
17 Jun 2016, 7:39 am #3,237
(16 Jun 2016, 8:06 pm)Ambassador I know the 554 is fairly limited but the runs from Newcastle are fairly disappointing. Nothing to drag anyone away from Arriva or Network One

One 7.15am service and considerably slower than the alternatives

I agree. The Newcastle extension seems to exist as a way of reducing dead mileage (much like Hexham's X81) if the service is operated from Riverside.

But who knows, if people either use the service or state a preference for a GNE service to Quorum, then perhaps the service could be improved or a new service introduced.
Edited 17 Jun 2016, 8:47 am by MurdnunoC.
MurdnunoC
17 Jun 2016, 7:39 am #3,237

(16 Jun 2016, 8:06 pm)Ambassador I know the 554 is fairly limited but the runs from Newcastle are fairly disappointing. Nothing to drag anyone away from Arriva or Network One

One 7.15am service and considerably slower than the alternatives

I agree. The Newcastle extension seems to exist as a way of reducing dead mileage (much like Hexham's X81) if the service is operated from Riverside.

But who knows, if people either use the service or state a preference for a GNE service to Quorum, then perhaps the service could be improved or a new service introduced.

Michael



19,168
17 Jun 2016, 8:36 am #3,238
(16 Jun 2016, 6:51 pm)Michael GNE have uploaded the new 700/701 timetable for the summer season which is from 25 June to 16 September 2016.


Remains every 20 minutes - Monday -Friday daytime - only runs until around 8pm 

Saturdays - every 30 minutes

Sunday service returns - half hourly - runs between 10:40am till 17:10pm 


701 is withdrawn


http://www.simplygo.com/download/publication/79207.44

Full details here:

http://www.simplygo.com/news/sunderland-connect

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
17 Jun 2016, 8:36 am #3,238

(16 Jun 2016, 6:51 pm)Michael GNE have uploaded the new 700/701 timetable for the summer season which is from 25 June to 16 September 2016.


Remains every 20 minutes - Monday -Friday daytime - only runs until around 8pm 

Saturdays - every 30 minutes

Sunday service returns - half hourly - runs between 10:40am till 17:10pm 


701 is withdrawn


http://www.simplygo.com/download/publication/79207.44

Full details here:

http://www.simplygo.com/news/sunderland-connect


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Michael



19,168
21 Jun 2016, 8:45 am #3,239
PB0003954/690 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Great Park Village, Waggonway Drive and Wallsend Metro given service number Q3 effective from 04-Sep-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
21 Jun 2016, 8:45 am #3,239

PB0003954/690 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Great Park Village, Waggonway Drive and Wallsend Metro given service number Q3 effective from 04-Sep-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

21 Jun 2016, 3:01 pm #3,240
(21 Jun 2016, 8:45 am)Michael PB0003954/690 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Great Park Village, Waggonway Drive and Wallsend Metro given service number Q3 effective from 04-Sep-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

This will be for when the turning circle shuts and the service will operate the full length of Rosedon Way
NK53 TKT
21 Jun 2016, 3:01 pm #3,240

(21 Jun 2016, 8:45 am)Michael PB0003954/690 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Great Park Village, Waggonway Drive and Wallsend Metro given service number Q3 effective from 04-Sep-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

This will be for when the turning circle shuts and the service will operate the full length of Rosedon Way

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