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02 May 2014, 4:59 pm #41
(02 May 2014, 4:54 pm)citaro5284 When was this, as the only one I am aware of recently at Iveston was 3821, which caused it to be withdrawn?

About a month and a half ago I think he commented about it. Considering it was an RTA, I thought people would have taken more interest, I don't think anybody even replied.
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02 May 2014, 4:59 pm #41

(02 May 2014, 4:54 pm)citaro5284 When was this, as the only one I am aware of recently at Iveston was 3821, which caused it to be withdrawn?

About a month and a half ago I think he commented about it. Considering it was an RTA, I thought people would have taken more interest, I don't think anybody even replied.

bazaba

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02 May 2014, 5:08 pm #42
(02 May 2014, 4:49 pm)busman101 I hear the Popular Front have been out on car parking disruption duties again tonight - another bus stuck in Avenue Vivian according to the radio message overheard on the bus.

Not sure Lumley's much better really !!!

Car parking disruption isn't our style. Telt you that before man.
Pop bottles rattling around the saloon, Metro newspapers scattered about the bus and pass holders 'pretending to be' confused with the machine are our techniques.
'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
02 May 2014, 5:08 pm #42

(02 May 2014, 4:49 pm)busman101 I hear the Popular Front have been out on car parking disruption duties again tonight - another bus stuck in Avenue Vivian according to the radio message overheard on the bus.

Not sure Lumley's much better really !!!

Car parking disruption isn't our style. Telt you that before man.
Pop bottles rattling around the saloon, Metro newspapers scattered about the bus and pass holders 'pretending to be' confused with the machine are our techniques.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'

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02 May 2014, 5:22 pm #43
(02 May 2014, 4:54 pm)citaro5284 When was this, as the only one I am aware of recently at Iveston was 3821, which caused it to be withdrawn?

This article tells us all about the accident: http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/11...e/?ref=rss

3821 couldn't have been the bus involved in this accident as the 822 runs onto the X's (X30/X31 in particular) so uses a Dennis Trident Plaxton President with the occational B7 Plaxton President or Lolyne been used so I can only assume that 3821 was withdrawn due to a separate incident that just happend to be in the same area.
Edited 02 May 2014, 5:26 pm by S813 FVK.
S813 FVK
02 May 2014, 5:22 pm #43

(02 May 2014, 4:54 pm)citaro5284 When was this, as the only one I am aware of recently at Iveston was 3821, which caused it to be withdrawn?

This article tells us all about the accident: http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/11...e/?ref=rss

3821 couldn't have been the bus involved in this accident as the 822 runs onto the X's (X30/X31 in particular) so uses a Dennis Trident Plaxton President with the occational B7 Plaxton President or Lolyne been used so I can only assume that 3821 was withdrawn due to a separate incident that just happend to be in the same area.

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02 May 2014, 5:45 pm #44
(02 May 2014, 5:22 pm)Robert This article tells us all about the accident: http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/11...e/?ref=rss

3821 couldn't have been the bus involved in this accident as the 822 runs onto the X's (X30/X31 in particular) so uses a Dennis Trident Plaxton President with the occational B7 Plaxton President or Lolyne been used so I can only assume that 3821 was withdrawn due to a separate incident that just happend to be in the same area.

The incident the article mentions is the one with 3821. The vehicle was operating light to Consett from St Bedes when the RTA occurred.
citaro5284
02 May 2014, 5:45 pm #44

(02 May 2014, 5:22 pm)Robert This article tells us all about the accident: http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/11...e/?ref=rss

3821 couldn't have been the bus involved in this accident as the 822 runs onto the X's (X30/X31 in particular) so uses a Dennis Trident Plaxton President with the occational B7 Plaxton President or Lolyne been used so I can only assume that 3821 was withdrawn due to a separate incident that just happend to be in the same area.

The incident the article mentions is the one with 3821. The vehicle was operating light to Consett from St Bedes when the RTA occurred.

S813 FVK



6,030
02 May 2014, 5:47 pm #45
(02 May 2014, 5:45 pm)citaro5284 The incident the article mentions is the one with 3821. The vehicle was operating light to Consett from St Bedes when the RTA occurred.

The incident which happend on April 1st was heading towards St Bedes School on a Scholars service 822. As I said before the 822 uses a Northern branded decker as it then goes onto another service. Look at this quote for example: “The driver of the bus and passengers were unhurt.” If the bus was going to Consett light. Why would it have any passengers on it? Obviously suggests that it wasn't and as a student at that school I can quote what a student said when they walked in 'I missed the bus and it crashed'.

Either way, if it was 3821 that was involved (which I doubt) in this accident then 3886 has also been involved in a RTA where its front has had to be replaced completely.
Edited 02 May 2014, 5:52 pm by S813 FVK.
S813 FVK
02 May 2014, 5:47 pm #45

(02 May 2014, 5:45 pm)citaro5284 The incident the article mentions is the one with 3821. The vehicle was operating light to Consett from St Bedes when the RTA occurred.

The incident which happend on April 1st was heading towards St Bedes School on a Scholars service 822. As I said before the 822 uses a Northern branded decker as it then goes onto another service. Look at this quote for example: “The driver of the bus and passengers were unhurt.” If the bus was going to Consett light. Why would it have any passengers on it? Obviously suggests that it wasn't and as a student at that school I can quote what a student said when they walked in 'I missed the bus and it crashed'.

Either way, if it was 3821 that was involved (which I doubt) in this accident then 3886 has also been involved in a RTA where its front has had to be replaced completely.

Malarkey



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02 May 2014, 6:11 pm #46
(02 May 2014, 6:46 am)Dan 5274 is getting freshened up, yes. It retained its "Red Kite" red base livery which is slightly different to the shade of red of Go North East's corporate livery. The others (5247-49) were all repainted in late 2012 if memory serves, so won't be due for repaint just yet.

I would of thought with the Red Kite Omnicities being 8 Years Old, that the Repaint of 5274 would be an indicator of New Vehicles for the 45/46, because if one Vehicle was Painted Per Week it would take us to Mid/Late August, just in time for New Buses Arriving in say Early September, Although Last Year the First of the Former Metrolink now Waggonway/Northern Solars were not Repainted until June 2013, but with the South Tyne 5 Cadets and Driver Training Coaches also being Repainted, I suppose could put there Repaints back a few weeks.
Malarkey
02 May 2014, 6:11 pm #46

(02 May 2014, 6:46 am)Dan 5274 is getting freshened up, yes. It retained its "Red Kite" red base livery which is slightly different to the shade of red of Go North East's corporate livery. The others (5247-49) were all repainted in late 2012 if memory serves, so won't be due for repaint just yet.

I would of thought with the Red Kite Omnicities being 8 Years Old, that the Repaint of 5274 would be an indicator of New Vehicles for the 45/46, because if one Vehicle was Painted Per Week it would take us to Mid/Late August, just in time for New Buses Arriving in say Early September, Although Last Year the First of the Former Metrolink now Waggonway/Northern Solars were not Repainted until June 2013, but with the South Tyne 5 Cadets and Driver Training Coaches also being Repainted, I suppose could put there Repaints back a few weeks.

Tom

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02 May 2014, 6:17 pm #47
(02 May 2014, 6:11 pm)NEBCD Malarkey I would of thought with the Red Kite Omnicities being 8 Years Old, that the Repaint of 5274 would be an indicator of New Vehicles for the 45/46, because if one Vehicle was Painted Per Week it would take us to Mid/Late August, just in time for New Buses Arriving in say Early September, Although Last Year the First of the Former Metrolink now Waggonway/Northern Solars were not Repainted until June 2013, but with the South Tyne 5 Cadets and Driver Training Coaches also being Repainted, I suppose could put there Repaints back a few weeks.

The Red Kite will get upgraded if the Crusader receives the B5LH as rumoured. The Citaros would go onto the Red Kite, while the Red Kite Omnicities would go onto the 17. The remaining Citaros could then go onto the X70/X71, with the Omnicities transferring to Riverside for the Pulse services.
Tom
02 May 2014, 6:17 pm #47

(02 May 2014, 6:11 pm)NEBCD Malarkey I would of thought with the Red Kite Omnicities being 8 Years Old, that the Repaint of 5274 would be an indicator of New Vehicles for the 45/46, because if one Vehicle was Painted Per Week it would take us to Mid/Late August, just in time for New Buses Arriving in say Early September, Although Last Year the First of the Former Metrolink now Waggonway/Northern Solars were not Repainted until June 2013, but with the South Tyne 5 Cadets and Driver Training Coaches also being Repainted, I suppose could put there Repaints back a few weeks.

The Red Kite will get upgraded if the Crusader receives the B5LH as rumoured. The Citaros would go onto the Red Kite, while the Red Kite Omnicities would go onto the 17. The remaining Citaros could then go onto the X70/X71, with the Omnicities transferring to Riverside for the Pulse services.

S813 FVK



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02 May 2014, 6:40 pm #48
(02 May 2014, 6:17 pm)Tom The Red Kite will get upgraded if the Crusader receives the B5LH as rumoured. The Citaros would go onto the Red Kite, while the Red Kite Omnicities would go onto the 17. The remaining Citaros could then go onto the X70/X71, with the Omnicities transferring to Riverside for the Pulse services.

Or all could go to Percy Main as there would only be enough Omnicities to replace 5151-5158 and not 5159, 5165 and 5166. The 4 on the X70/X71 could go there allowing those 3 to be withdrawn plus a spare for the 9 and 17.
S813 FVK
02 May 2014, 6:40 pm #48

(02 May 2014, 6:17 pm)Tom The Red Kite will get upgraded if the Crusader receives the B5LH as rumoured. The Citaros would go onto the Red Kite, while the Red Kite Omnicities would go onto the 17. The remaining Citaros could then go onto the X70/X71, with the Omnicities transferring to Riverside for the Pulse services.

Or all could go to Percy Main as there would only be enough Omnicities to replace 5151-5158 and not 5159, 5165 and 5166. The 4 on the X70/X71 could go there allowing those 3 to be withdrawn plus a spare for the 9 and 17.

Tom

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02 May 2014, 6:45 pm #49
(02 May 2014, 6:40 pm)Robert Or all could go to Percy Main as there would only be enough Omnicities to replace 5151-5158 and not 5159, 5165 and 5166. The 4 on the X70/X71 could go there allowing those 3 to be withdrawn plus a spare for the 9 and 17.

The 17 is operated by two Lolynes anyway. 5159 could be replaced, but not 5165 or 5166 -

5234 replaces 5151.
5235 replaces 5152.
5236 replaces 5153.
5237 replaces 5154.
5238 replaces 5155.
5239 replaces 5156.
5240 replaces 5157.
5241 replaces 5158.
5242 replaces 5159.

I'd imagine 5165 and 5166 would be replaced by cascaded Solars or B10BLE's.
Tom
02 May 2014, 6:45 pm #49

(02 May 2014, 6:40 pm)Robert Or all could go to Percy Main as there would only be enough Omnicities to replace 5151-5158 and not 5159, 5165 and 5166. The 4 on the X70/X71 could go there allowing those 3 to be withdrawn plus a spare for the 9 and 17.

The 17 is operated by two Lolynes anyway. 5159 could be replaced, but not 5165 or 5166 -

5234 replaces 5151.
5235 replaces 5152.
5236 replaces 5153.
5237 replaces 5154.
5238 replaces 5155.
5239 replaces 5156.
5240 replaces 5157.
5241 replaces 5158.
5242 replaces 5159.

I'd imagine 5165 and 5166 would be replaced by cascaded Solars or B10BLE's.

R852 PRG

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02 May 2014, 6:50 pm #50
(02 May 2014, 6:45 pm)Tom The 17 is operated by two Lolynes anyway. 5159 could be replaced, but not 5165 or 5166 -

5234 replaces 5151.
5235 replaces 5152.
5236 replaces 5153.
5237 replaces 5154.
5238 replaces 5155.
5239 replaces 5156.
5240 replaces 5157.
5241 replaces 5158.
5242 replaces 5159.

I'd imagine 5165 and 5166 would be replaced by cascaded Solars or B10BLE's.

I know a lot of Deptford's Solars are for contracted scholars and spare buses, but I think if the X30/X31 were to be rebranded as the West Durham Swift (maybe under another name) then surely a few Solars could be gathered and sent to Stanley
bazaba

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R852 PRG
02 May 2014, 6:50 pm #50

(02 May 2014, 6:45 pm)Tom The 17 is operated by two Lolynes anyway. 5159 could be replaced, but not 5165 or 5166 -

5234 replaces 5151.
5235 replaces 5152.
5236 replaces 5153.
5237 replaces 5154.
5238 replaces 5155.
5239 replaces 5156.
5240 replaces 5157.
5241 replaces 5158.
5242 replaces 5159.

I'd imagine 5165 and 5166 would be replaced by cascaded Solars or B10BLE's.

I know a lot of Deptford's Solars are for contracted scholars and spare buses, but I think if the X30/X31 were to be rebranded as the West Durham Swift (maybe under another name) then surely a few Solars could be gathered and sent to Stanley

bazaba

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02 May 2014, 6:57 pm #51
(02 May 2014, 5:47 pm)Robert The incident which happend on April 1st was heading towards St Bedes School on a Scholars service 822. As I said before the 822 uses a Northern branded decker as it then goes onto another service. Look at this quote for example: “The driver of the bus and passengers were unhurt.” If the bus was going to Consett light. Why would it have any passengers on it? Obviously suggests that it wasn't and as a student at that school I can quote what a student said when they walked in 'I missed the bus and it crashed'.

Either way, if it was 3821 that was involved (which I doubt) in this accident then 3886 has also been involved in a RTA where its front has had to be replaced completely.

Just to confirm, 3821 was involved in the RTA at Iveston, and 3886 had a coming together with an Arriva bus in Gateshead on 22 April, hence the reason why it has had a new front panel (and windscreens).
citaro5284
02 May 2014, 6:57 pm #51

(02 May 2014, 5:47 pm)Robert The incident which happend on April 1st was heading towards St Bedes School on a Scholars service 822. As I said before the 822 uses a Northern branded decker as it then goes onto another service. Look at this quote for example: “The driver of the bus and passengers were unhurt.” If the bus was going to Consett light. Why would it have any passengers on it? Obviously suggests that it wasn't and as a student at that school I can quote what a student said when they walked in 'I missed the bus and it crashed'.

Either way, if it was 3821 that was involved (which I doubt) in this accident then 3886 has also been involved in a RTA where its front has had to be replaced completely.

Just to confirm, 3821 was involved in the RTA at Iveston, and 3886 had a coming together with an Arriva bus in Gateshead on 22 April, hence the reason why it has had a new front panel (and windscreens).

peter



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02 May 2014, 7:02 pm #52
(02 May 2014, 6:45 pm)Tom The 17 is operated by two Lolynes anyway. 5159 could be replaced, but not 5165 or 5166 -

5234 replaces 5151.
5235 replaces 5152.
5236 replaces 5153.
5237 replaces 5154.
5238 replaces 5155.
5239 replaces 5156.
5240 replaces 5157.
5241 replaces 5158.
5242 replaces 5159.

I'd imagine 5165 and 5166 would be replaced by cascaded Solars or B10BLE's.

How about:
5310-5319 get branded for the Red Kite displacing 5234-5242 to Percy Main (and a B10BLE at Stanley into disposal as a branded spare would be introduced). Then 5328-5330 and 5332 would go into standard fleet livery for use on the X70/X71 displacing 5250, 5253, 5254 and 5273 to Percy Main. At Percy Main 5151-5159 could then be withdrawn from service while 5165, 5166, 4911 and 4912 could then be displaced to Riverside allowing 5160-5163 to be withdrawn. Lastly, 4913 could transfer to Riverside either due to newer buses running from Percy Main, the loss of a spare vehicle or in return for a double-deck to allow Percy Main to become B10BLE free.
Edited 02 May 2014, 7:04 pm by peter.
peter
02 May 2014, 7:02 pm #52

(02 May 2014, 6:45 pm)Tom The 17 is operated by two Lolynes anyway. 5159 could be replaced, but not 5165 or 5166 -

5234 replaces 5151.
5235 replaces 5152.
5236 replaces 5153.
5237 replaces 5154.
5238 replaces 5155.
5239 replaces 5156.
5240 replaces 5157.
5241 replaces 5158.
5242 replaces 5159.

I'd imagine 5165 and 5166 would be replaced by cascaded Solars or B10BLE's.

How about:
5310-5319 get branded for the Red Kite displacing 5234-5242 to Percy Main (and a B10BLE at Stanley into disposal as a branded spare would be introduced). Then 5328-5330 and 5332 would go into standard fleet livery for use on the X70/X71 displacing 5250, 5253, 5254 and 5273 to Percy Main. At Percy Main 5151-5159 could then be withdrawn from service while 5165, 5166, 4911 and 4912 could then be displaced to Riverside allowing 5160-5163 to be withdrawn. Lastly, 4913 could transfer to Riverside either due to newer buses running from Percy Main, the loss of a spare vehicle or in return for a double-deck to allow Percy Main to become B10BLE free.

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02 May 2014, 7:07 pm #53
(02 May 2014, 7:02 pm)peter How about:
5310-5319 get branded for the Red Kite displacing 5234-5242 to Percy Main (and a B10BLE at Stanley into disposal as a branded spare would be introduced). Then 5328-5330 and 5332 would go into standard fleet livery for use on the X70/X71 displacing 5250, 5253, 5254 and 5273 to Percy Main. At Percy Main 5151-5159 could then be withdrawn from service while 5165, 5166, 4911 and 4912 could then be displaced to Riverside allowing 5160-5163 to be withdrawn. Lastly, 4913 could transfer to Riverside either due to newer buses running from Percy Main, the loss of a spare vehicle or in return for a double-deck to allow Percy Main to become B10BLE free.

But 5332 has just been branded for the Crusader in recent months, unless that brand is getting new buses this year (seems to get a lot of upgrades if you ask me). You seem to be forgetting 5337 and 5338, they could brand one of those instead of 5332 or brand them both?
bazaba

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R852 PRG
02 May 2014, 7:07 pm #53

(02 May 2014, 7:02 pm)peter How about:
5310-5319 get branded for the Red Kite displacing 5234-5242 to Percy Main (and a B10BLE at Stanley into disposal as a branded spare would be introduced). Then 5328-5330 and 5332 would go into standard fleet livery for use on the X70/X71 displacing 5250, 5253, 5254 and 5273 to Percy Main. At Percy Main 5151-5159 could then be withdrawn from service while 5165, 5166, 4911 and 4912 could then be displaced to Riverside allowing 5160-5163 to be withdrawn. Lastly, 4913 could transfer to Riverside either due to newer buses running from Percy Main, the loss of a spare vehicle or in return for a double-deck to allow Percy Main to become B10BLE free.

But 5332 has just been branded for the Crusader in recent months, unless that brand is getting new buses this year (seems to get a lot of upgrades if you ask me). You seem to be forgetting 5337 and 5338, they could brand one of those instead of 5332 or brand them both?

bazaba

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citaro5284



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02 May 2014, 7:11 pm #54
Marcus - have you not sorted out your PM's yet Tongue
citaro5284
02 May 2014, 7:11 pm #54

Marcus - have you not sorted out your PM's yet Tongue

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6,030
02 May 2014, 7:12 pm #55
(02 May 2014, 7:07 pm)Marcus But 5332 has just been branded for the Crusader in recent months, unless that brand is getting new buses this year (seems to get a lot of upgrades if you ask me). You seem to be forgetting 5337 and 5338, they could brand one of those instead of 5332 or brand them both?

all of the Crusaders were branded last year within a good few days or weeks within each other.
S813 FVK
02 May 2014, 7:12 pm #55

(02 May 2014, 7:07 pm)Marcus But 5332 has just been branded for the Crusader in recent months, unless that brand is getting new buses this year (seems to get a lot of upgrades if you ask me). You seem to be forgetting 5337 and 5338, they could brand one of those instead of 5332 or brand them both?

all of the Crusaders were branded last year within a good few days or weeks within each other.

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02 May 2014, 7:13 pm #56
(02 May 2014, 7:11 pm)citaro5284 Marcus - have you not sorted out your PM's yet Tongue

Dan said he would do it for me last night Big Grin.
Edited 02 May 2014, 7:14 pm by R852 PRG.
bazaba

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R852 PRG
02 May 2014, 7:13 pm #56

(02 May 2014, 7:11 pm)citaro5284 Marcus - have you not sorted out your PM's yet Tongue

Dan said he would do it for me last night Big Grin.

bazaba

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02 May 2014, 7:27 pm #57
I've just been flicking through flickr and stumbled across this photo by Bazza;

https://www.flickr.com/photos/bazza90/14...otostream/

I'm just wondering why about a dozen people are needed sitting down on a driver training run. Are they examiners, or instructors?
bazaba

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R852 PRG
02 May 2014, 7:27 pm #57

I've just been flicking through flickr and stumbled across this photo by Bazza;

https://www.flickr.com/photos/bazza90/14...otostream/

I'm just wondering why about a dozen people are needed sitting down on a driver training run. Are they examiners, or instructors?

bazaba

My Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/142814434@N05/

citaro5284



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02 May 2014, 7:37 pm #58
(02 May 2014, 7:27 pm)Marcus I've just been flicking through flickr and stumbled across this photo by Bazza;

https://www.flickr.com/photos/bazza90/14...otostream/

I'm just wondering why about a dozen people are needed sitting down on a driver training run. Are they examiners, or instructors?

Chances are they are route learning.
citaro5284
02 May 2014, 7:37 pm #58

(02 May 2014, 7:27 pm)Marcus I've just been flicking through flickr and stumbled across this photo by Bazza;

https://www.flickr.com/photos/bazza90/14...otostream/

I'm just wondering why about a dozen people are needed sitting down on a driver training run. Are they examiners, or instructors?

Chances are they are route learning.

G-CPTN



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02 May 2014, 7:54 pm #59
(02 May 2014, 7:27 pm)Marcus I've just been flicking through flickr and stumbled across this photo by Bazza;

https://www.flickr.com/photos/bazza90/14...otostream/

That's a 2004 registration.
G-CPTN
02 May 2014, 7:54 pm #59

(02 May 2014, 7:27 pm)Marcus I've just been flicking through flickr and stumbled across this photo by Bazza;

https://www.flickr.com/photos/bazza90/14...otostream/

That's a 2004 registration.

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02 May 2014, 7:56 pm #60
(02 May 2014, 7:37 pm)citaro5284 Chances are they are route learning.

I see, I sort of eliminated that option because they look like older men and I thought they might have held a high rank like instructor or manager.

EDIT: That beggars the question, which route are they learning? 565 is based at Peterlee, so what's it doing in Newcastle? Spare bus for the day so they took advantage?
Edited 02 May 2014, 7:58 pm by R852 PRG.
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R852 PRG
02 May 2014, 7:56 pm #60

(02 May 2014, 7:37 pm)citaro5284 Chances are they are route learning.

I see, I sort of eliminated that option because they look like older men and I thought they might have held a high rank like instructor or manager.

EDIT: That beggars the question, which route are they learning? 565 is based at Peterlee, so what's it doing in Newcastle? Spare bus for the day so they took advantage?

bazaba

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