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Dan

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18,118
02 Aug 2014, 1:33 pm #41
(02 Aug 2014, 1:33 pm)Michael Looks like they are trying to increase the value in them.
Certainly does!
Dan
02 Aug 2014, 1:33 pm #41

(02 Aug 2014, 1:33 pm)Michael Looks like they are trying to increase the value in them.
Certainly does!

Adrian



9,583
02 Aug 2014, 1:35 pm #42
(01 Aug 2014, 5:12 pm)citaro5284 Totally baffled then, just checked icomera and it is currently online, with no issues reported Huh
Same on 6062 about 2 hours ago.

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Adrian
02 Aug 2014, 1:35 pm #42

(01 Aug 2014, 5:12 pm)citaro5284 Totally baffled then, just checked icomera and it is currently online, with no issues reported Huh
Same on 6062 about 2 hours ago.


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02 Aug 2014, 1:41 pm #43
(02 Aug 2014, 1:35 pm)aureolin Same on 6062 about 2 hours ago.

Can understand that one, icomera have not visited that one yet.
citaro5284
02 Aug 2014, 1:41 pm #43

(02 Aug 2014, 1:35 pm)aureolin Same on 6062 about 2 hours ago.

Can understand that one, icomera have not visited that one yet.

Adrian



9,583
02 Aug 2014, 3:18 pm #44
(02 Aug 2014, 1:41 pm)citaro5284 Can understand that one, icomera have not visited that one yet.

Cheers! It's not just me being singled out then Big Grin

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Adrian
02 Aug 2014, 3:18 pm #44

(02 Aug 2014, 1:41 pm)citaro5284 Can understand that one, icomera have not visited that one yet.

Cheers! It's not just me being singled out then Big Grin


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Adrian



9,583
02 Aug 2014, 3:20 pm #45
Really enjoyed my two rides on the Mercedes Citaro demonstrator today. I found it really comfortable, it ran the route with ease, and it was very smart. I was impressed with the interior, and the seats seemed a lot more comfortable to the ones already in the fleet. When I first seen the flooring, I was half expecting a log fire and oak dining table to be on board too. Tongue

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Adrian
02 Aug 2014, 3:20 pm #45

Really enjoyed my two rides on the Mercedes Citaro demonstrator today. I found it really comfortable, it ran the route with ease, and it was very smart. I was impressed with the interior, and the seats seemed a lot more comfortable to the ones already in the fleet. When I first seen the flooring, I was half expecting a log fire and oak dining table to be on board too. Tongue


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Malarkey



6,064
02 Aug 2014, 5:59 pm #46
Hadn't realized I had Photographed 7118 when I was in Bradford a few weeks ago, Nice feeling Photographing something Local away from Home.
Malarkey
02 Aug 2014, 5:59 pm #46

Hadn't realized I had Photographed 7118 when I was in Bradford a few weeks ago, Nice feeling Photographing something Local away from Home.

BJ10VUS



850
02 Aug 2014, 7:12 pm #47
As much as I think the Citaro demonstrator is very stylish and modern-looking, I can't help but feel its looks could be enhanced in a brighter colour like blue, or red. Other than that, it's very impressive!
BJ10VUS
02 Aug 2014, 7:12 pm #47

As much as I think the Citaro demonstrator is very stylish and modern-looking, I can't help but feel its looks could be enhanced in a brighter colour like blue, or red. Other than that, it's very impressive!

Tom



6,138
02 Aug 2014, 7:20 pm #48
Saw the X25 today - had three passengers on the 1625 departure, surely not good enough.
Tom
02 Aug 2014, 7:20 pm #48

Saw the X25 today - had three passengers on the 1625 departure, surely not good enough.

Dan

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18,118
02 Aug 2014, 7:22 pm #49
(02 Aug 2014, 3:20 pm)aureolin Really enjoyed my two rides on the Mercedes Citaro demonstrator today. I found it really comfortable, it ran the route with ease, and it was very smart. I was impressed with the interior, and the seats seemed a lot more comfortable to the ones already in the fleet. When I first seen the flooring, I was half expecting a log fire and oak dining table to be on board too. Tongue

(02 Aug 2014, 7:12 pm)BJ10VUS As much as I think the Citaro demonstrator is very stylish and modern-looking, I can't help but feel its looks could be enhanced in a brighter colour like blue, or red. Other than that, it's very impressive!

I also had an enjoyable ride on 9120 today too.

Despite its rather grim-looking livery, the interior was absolutely fantastic - something I hope GNE would go for if they did purchase any of them (we can hope and dream...)

It felt like it had lots of energy and power which was just waiting to be released, although you don't get to do that on the X66 all too often - with the only place being the Centrelink to build up full speed. I think that, after a week on the X66, it'll be trialled on a more vigorous (set of) route(s). Tongue

Dislike that two seats have been taken out of the back in favour of that hideous grey thing. Was quite warm too.
Dan
02 Aug 2014, 7:22 pm #49

(02 Aug 2014, 3:20 pm)aureolin Really enjoyed my two rides on the Mercedes Citaro demonstrator today. I found it really comfortable, it ran the route with ease, and it was very smart. I was impressed with the interior, and the seats seemed a lot more comfortable to the ones already in the fleet. When I first seen the flooring, I was half expecting a log fire and oak dining table to be on board too. Tongue

(02 Aug 2014, 7:12 pm)BJ10VUS As much as I think the Citaro demonstrator is very stylish and modern-looking, I can't help but feel its looks could be enhanced in a brighter colour like blue, or red. Other than that, it's very impressive!

I also had an enjoyable ride on 9120 today too.

Despite its rather grim-looking livery, the interior was absolutely fantastic - something I hope GNE would go for if they did purchase any of them (we can hope and dream...)

It felt like it had lots of energy and power which was just waiting to be released, although you don't get to do that on the X66 all too often - with the only place being the Centrelink to build up full speed. I think that, after a week on the X66, it'll be trialled on a more vigorous (set of) route(s). Tongue

Dislike that two seats have been taken out of the back in favour of that hideous grey thing. Was quite warm too.

L469 YVK



3,551
02 Aug 2014, 7:25 pm #50
(02 Aug 2014, 7:22 pm)Dan I also had an enjoyable ride on 9120 today too.

Despite its rather grim-looking livery, the interior was absolutely fantastic - something I hope GNE would go for if they did purchase any of them (we can hope and dream...)

It felt like it had lots of energy and power which was just waiting to be released, although you don't get to do that on the X66 all too often - with the only place being the Centrelink to build up full speed. I think that, after a week on the X66, it'll be trialled on a more vigorous (set of) route(s). Tongue

Dislike that two seats have been taken out of the back in favour of that hideous grey thing. Was quite warm too.

Is it the same engine as what's in the Wrightbus Integral Streetdeck?
L469 YVK
02 Aug 2014, 7:25 pm #50

(02 Aug 2014, 7:22 pm)Dan I also had an enjoyable ride on 9120 today too.

Despite its rather grim-looking livery, the interior was absolutely fantastic - something I hope GNE would go for if they did purchase any of them (we can hope and dream...)

It felt like it had lots of energy and power which was just waiting to be released, although you don't get to do that on the X66 all too often - with the only place being the Centrelink to build up full speed. I think that, after a week on the X66, it'll be trialled on a more vigorous (set of) route(s). Tongue

Dislike that two seats have been taken out of the back in favour of that hideous grey thing. Was quite warm too.

Is it the same engine as what's in the Wrightbus Integral Streetdeck?

Adrian



9,583
02 Aug 2014, 7:25 pm #51
(02 Aug 2014, 7:22 pm)Dan I also had an enjoyable ride on 9120 today too.

Despite its rather grim-looking livery, the interior was absolutely fantastic - something I hope GNE would go for if they did purchase any of them (we can hope and dream...)

It felt like it had lots of energy and power which was just waiting to be released, although you don't get to do that on the X66 all too often - with the only place being the Centrelink to build up full speed. I think that, after a week on the X66, it'll be trialled on a more vigorous (set of) route(s). Tongue

Dislike that two seats have been taken out of the back in favour of that hideous grey thing. Was quite warm too.
Aye, I commented on Flickr about that. The Omnicity like column at the rear.

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Adrian
02 Aug 2014, 7:25 pm #51

(02 Aug 2014, 7:22 pm)Dan I also had an enjoyable ride on 9120 today too.

Despite its rather grim-looking livery, the interior was absolutely fantastic - something I hope GNE would go for if they did purchase any of them (we can hope and dream...)

It felt like it had lots of energy and power which was just waiting to be released, although you don't get to do that on the X66 all too often - with the only place being the Centrelink to build up full speed. I think that, after a week on the X66, it'll be trialled on a more vigorous (set of) route(s). Tongue

Dislike that two seats have been taken out of the back in favour of that hideous grey thing. Was quite warm too.
Aye, I commented on Flickr about that. The Omnicity like column at the rear.


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Dan

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02 Aug 2014, 7:29 pm #52
(02 Aug 2014, 7:25 pm)DaveyBowyer Is it the same engine as what's in the Wrightbus Integral Streetdeck?

You'd have to ask someone who is more mechanically minded.

I thought it was more powerful than the Volvo B5TL demonstrator, but I haven't looked up the differences in weight between the two vehicles to see how that would affect things.
Dan
02 Aug 2014, 7:29 pm #52

(02 Aug 2014, 7:25 pm)DaveyBowyer Is it the same engine as what's in the Wrightbus Integral Streetdeck?

You'd have to ask someone who is more mechanically minded.

I thought it was more powerful than the Volvo B5TL demonstrator, but I haven't looked up the differences in weight between the two vehicles to see how that would affect things.

Tom



6,138
02 Aug 2014, 7:43 pm #53
(02 Aug 2014, 7:22 pm)Dan I also had an enjoyable ride on 9120 today too.

Despite its rather grim-looking livery, the interior was absolutely fantastic - something I hope GNE would go for if they did purchase any of them (we can hope and dream...)

It felt like it had lots of energy and power which was just waiting to be released, although you don't get to do that on the X66 all too often - with the only place being the Centrelink to build up full speed. I think that, after a week on the X66, it'll be trialled on a more vigorous (set of) route(s). Tongue

Dislike that two seats have been taken out of the back in favour of that hideous grey thing. Was quite warm too.

Hmm - could it be trailed on the Limes?
Tom
02 Aug 2014, 7:43 pm #53

(02 Aug 2014, 7:22 pm)Dan I also had an enjoyable ride on 9120 today too.

Despite its rather grim-looking livery, the interior was absolutely fantastic - something I hope GNE would go for if they did purchase any of them (we can hope and dream...)

It felt like it had lots of energy and power which was just waiting to be released, although you don't get to do that on the X66 all too often - with the only place being the Centrelink to build up full speed. I think that, after a week on the X66, it'll be trialled on a more vigorous (set of) route(s). Tongue

Dislike that two seats have been taken out of the back in favour of that hideous grey thing. Was quite warm too.

Hmm - could it be trailed on the Limes?

citaro5284



3,233
02 Aug 2014, 7:48 pm #54
(02 Aug 2014, 7:43 pm)Tom Hmm - could it be trailed on the Limes?

very likely......Tongue
citaro5284
02 Aug 2014, 7:48 pm #54

(02 Aug 2014, 7:43 pm)Tom Hmm - could it be trailed on the Limes?

very likely......Tongue

G-CPTN



961
02 Aug 2014, 7:51 pm #55
(02 Aug 2014, 7:25 pm)DaveyBowyer Is it the same engine as what's in the Wrightbus Integral Streetdeck?
No:-

Wrightbus StreetDeck:-
Mercedes-Benz/Daimler powered using the OM934. This is a 5.1-litre four cylinder unit which develops 228hp (170kW) at 2,200rpm and peak torque of 900Nm at 1,400rpm mounted longitudinally within a demountable skid for ease of maintenance. Features of the engine compared with the Euro5 OM904 it replaces are greater durability, longer maintenance intervals, and reduced engine oil and AdBlue consumption. It weighs 495kg and is 800mm long, with a two stage turbocharger for good low speed torque and a five stage fuel injection system running at 2,400 bar.

Mercedes-Benz Citaro:-
The engineers of Daimler Buses employed all available means to achieve maximum efficiency of the Citaro. A multitude of measures counteract the inevitable added weight of the additional or larger components that the move from Euro V to Euro VI entails.
The centrepiece of the drive system is the new BlueEfficiency Power engine. The in-line six-cylinder Mercedes-Benz OM 936 h engine in the Citaro single bus is characterised by robustness, longevity and maximum cost-efficiency with regard to fuel, motor oil and AdBlue consumption as well as by long maintenance intervals. A distinctive trait of this engine is high torque at very low engine speeds and an excellent throttle response. Both qualities are part of the prerequisites for successfully taking the place of the predecessor engines that to some extent had significantly more displacement – the keyword in this context is downsizing.

From:- http://www2.mercedes-benz.co.uk/content/...zienz.html

See also:- http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.mercedes-benz.de/content/germany/mpc/mpc_germany_website/de/home_mpc/bus/home/new_buses/models/regular_service_busses/_Citaro_c2/facts/technical_data_e6.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3DMercedes-Benz%2BOM%2B936%2Bh%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3DS3g%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26channel%3Drcs
G-CPTN
02 Aug 2014, 7:51 pm #55

(02 Aug 2014, 7:25 pm)DaveyBowyer Is it the same engine as what's in the Wrightbus Integral Streetdeck?
No:-

Wrightbus StreetDeck:-
Mercedes-Benz/Daimler powered using the OM934. This is a 5.1-litre four cylinder unit which develops 228hp (170kW) at 2,200rpm and peak torque of 900Nm at 1,400rpm mounted longitudinally within a demountable skid for ease of maintenance. Features of the engine compared with the Euro5 OM904 it replaces are greater durability, longer maintenance intervals, and reduced engine oil and AdBlue consumption. It weighs 495kg and is 800mm long, with a two stage turbocharger for good low speed torque and a five stage fuel injection system running at 2,400 bar.

Mercedes-Benz Citaro:-
The engineers of Daimler Buses employed all available means to achieve maximum efficiency of the Citaro. A multitude of measures counteract the inevitable added weight of the additional or larger components that the move from Euro V to Euro VI entails.
The centrepiece of the drive system is the new BlueEfficiency Power engine. The in-line six-cylinder Mercedes-Benz OM 936 h engine in the Citaro single bus is characterised by robustness, longevity and maximum cost-efficiency with regard to fuel, motor oil and AdBlue consumption as well as by long maintenance intervals. A distinctive trait of this engine is high torque at very low engine speeds and an excellent throttle response. Both qualities are part of the prerequisites for successfully taking the place of the predecessor engines that to some extent had significantly more displacement – the keyword in this context is downsizing.

From:- http://www2.mercedes-benz.co.uk/content/...zienz.html

See also:- http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.mercedes-benz.de/content/germany/mpc/mpc_germany_website/de/home_mpc/bus/home/new_buses/models/regular_service_busses/_Citaro_c2/facts/technical_data_e6.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3DMercedes-Benz%2BOM%2B936%2Bh%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3DS3g%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26channel%3Drcs

Andy



158
02 Aug 2014, 9:00 pm #56
Got on the demonstrator on X66 and ticket printed as 9131
Andy
02 Aug 2014, 9:00 pm #56

Got on the demonstrator on X66 and ticket printed as 9131

Malarkey



6,064
02 Aug 2014, 9:04 pm #57
(02 Aug 2014, 9:00 pm)Andy Got on the demonstrator on X66 and ticket printed as 9131

Aureolin mentioned it earlier on, no doubt 9120 has 9131's Ticket Machine, rather than the Fleet Number of the Vehicle being incorrect.
Malarkey
02 Aug 2014, 9:04 pm #57

(02 Aug 2014, 9:00 pm)Andy Got on the demonstrator on X66 and ticket printed as 9131

Aureolin mentioned it earlier on, no doubt 9120 has 9131's Ticket Machine, rather than the Fleet Number of the Vehicle being incorrect.

citaro5284



3,233
02 Aug 2014, 9:06 pm #58
(02 Aug 2014, 9:04 pm)NEBCD Malarkey Aureolin mentioned it earlier on, no doubt 9120 has 9131's Ticket Machine, rather than the Fleet Number of the Vehicle being incorrect.

Its the baseplates that hold the fleet number, and yes, it was the baseplate off 9131 when it was here and has not been changed before it was put onto 9120. Hopefully will be changed pretty soon.
citaro5284
02 Aug 2014, 9:06 pm #58

(02 Aug 2014, 9:04 pm)NEBCD Malarkey Aureolin mentioned it earlier on, no doubt 9120 has 9131's Ticket Machine, rather than the Fleet Number of the Vehicle being incorrect.

Its the baseplates that hold the fleet number, and yes, it was the baseplate off 9131 when it was here and has not been changed before it was put onto 9120. Hopefully will be changed pretty soon.

Andy



158
02 Aug 2014, 9:07 pm #59
Saw 569 coming out of Riverside around 11:00 this morning also 3979 was parked in Metrocentre I thinking it was going on 96/97. 5285 was parked in Stanley all day and 5287 came into the bus station around 13:00 and it displayed 'Engineers on road test' while 3889 was overheating but continued service.
Andy
02 Aug 2014, 9:07 pm #59

Saw 569 coming out of Riverside around 11:00 this morning also 3979 was parked in Metrocentre I thinking it was going on 96/97. 5285 was parked in Stanley all day and 5287 came into the bus station around 13:00 and it displayed 'Engineers on road test' while 3889 was overheating but continued service.

03 Aug 2014, 8:46 am #60
Is there a secret to opening the window on a Citaro?

Was on the X7 yesterday and it was like an oven. Pulled the window like mad but it wouldn't open.

Plenty of yellow Olympians about in Newcastle.
Edited 03 Aug 2014, 8:46 am by Roland Pratt.
Roland Pratt
03 Aug 2014, 8:46 am #60

Is there a secret to opening the window on a Citaro?

Was on the X7 yesterday and it was like an oven. Pulled the window like mad but it wouldn't open.

Plenty of yellow Olympians about in Newcastle.

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