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tyresmoke



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23 Dec 2013, 11:10 am #281
Stockton Omnicity 4659 has re-entered service this morning after a few months off having a new engine fitted. It's on X6s today.

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tyresmoke
23 Dec 2013, 11:10 am #281

Stockton Omnicity 4659 has re-entered service this morning after a few months off having a new engine fitted. It's on X6s today.


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23 Dec 2013, 11:28 am #282
(23 Dec 2013, 11:10 am)tyresmoke Stockton Omnicity 4659 has re-entered service this morning after a few months off having a new engine fitted. It's on X6s today.

Still no repaint since new then?
Roland Pratt
23 Dec 2013, 11:28 am #282

(23 Dec 2013, 11:10 am)tyresmoke Stockton Omnicity 4659 has re-entered service this morning after a few months off having a new engine fitted. It's on X6s today.

Still no repaint since new then?

23 Dec 2013, 3:33 pm #283
The best ever engine to have been made was the Volvo D10-245 as used in the Palatine II's. Whenever I've been on one of them, as soon as I heard the engine kick in, I knew for certain that despite the age of the bus, it was being powered by a solid and well built engine with steady but progressive power. The Volvo Olympian Palatine II is my childhood bus and I have many fond memories of riddng aboard one on the 44, 306, 356 and I even remember Coastline using them for a short spell on the 308 when they were only a couple of years old. The Volvo Olympian Palatine II was an absolutely fantastic motor to ride on back in their golden days of being new. They're starting to age and die off with Euro and DDA requirements but with the exception of 7419's engine failure, the 35 D10 powred Volvo Olympians that have been in service across the North East since 97/98 have served Arriva and GNE very well and with the one exception of the above, they have kept going forever and whether they were being used for a run down the Coast Road to Tynemouth or a 80 mile round run to Middlesborough, they were nothing more than bloody good workhorses! They'll be a big miss to me when GNE start withdrawing them like what Arriva did. I had a ride on one on the 309 on Thursday Night and despite the fact it was 15 years old, it was still going strong. No other bus can beat a D10-245 powered Volvo Olympian Palatine II. Sad
Davey Bowyer
23 Dec 2013, 3:33 pm #283

The best ever engine to have been made was the Volvo D10-245 as used in the Palatine II's. Whenever I've been on one of them, as soon as I heard the engine kick in, I knew for certain that despite the age of the bus, it was being powered by a solid and well built engine with steady but progressive power. The Volvo Olympian Palatine II is my childhood bus and I have many fond memories of riddng aboard one on the 44, 306, 356 and I even remember Coastline using them for a short spell on the 308 when they were only a couple of years old. The Volvo Olympian Palatine II was an absolutely fantastic motor to ride on back in their golden days of being new. They're starting to age and die off with Euro and DDA requirements but with the exception of 7419's engine failure, the 35 D10 powred Volvo Olympians that have been in service across the North East since 97/98 have served Arriva and GNE very well and with the one exception of the above, they have kept going forever and whether they were being used for a run down the Coast Road to Tynemouth or a 80 mile round run to Middlesborough, they were nothing more than bloody good workhorses! They'll be a big miss to me when GNE start withdrawing them like what Arriva did. I had a ride on one on the 309 on Thursday Night and despite the fact it was 15 years old, it was still going strong. No other bus can beat a D10-245 powered Volvo Olympian Palatine II. Sad

tyresmoke



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23 Dec 2013, 6:15 pm #284
(23 Dec 2013, 11:28 am)Roland Pratt Still no repaint since new then?

They won't bother as it'll get done next year in the refurb program.

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tyresmoke
23 Dec 2013, 6:15 pm #284

(23 Dec 2013, 11:28 am)Roland Pratt Still no repaint since new then?

They won't bother as it'll get done next year in the refurb program.


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23 Dec 2013, 7:40 pm #285
Arriva fleetlist updated - everything should be up-to-date and correct as multiple sources have been used as ever.
PM me if you do spot an error I haven't amended or an update I haven't made though!

Ta.
Dan
23 Dec 2013, 7:40 pm #285

Arriva fleetlist updated - everything should be up-to-date and correct as multiple sources have been used as ever.
PM me if you do spot an error I haven't amended or an update I haven't made though!

Ta.

nk55



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23 Dec 2013, 10:13 pm #286
Noticed 1476 also has only offside branding for the captains tale. Why has it not got nearside branding like 1474?, the X1 "the best one" is branded both sides as has the sapphire. I'm gonna look at the X10/X11 when i'm in newcastle next because it is completely baffling.
nk55
23 Dec 2013, 10:13 pm #286

Noticed 1476 also has only offside branding for the captains tale. Why has it not got nearside branding like 1474?, the X1 "the best one" is branded both sides as has the sapphire. I'm gonna look at the X10/X11 when i'm in newcastle next because it is completely baffling.

Tom



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23 Dec 2013, 10:29 pm #287
Anyone know when the live map will be updated to include Tyne and Wear and Northumberland?
Tom
23 Dec 2013, 10:29 pm #287

Anyone know when the live map will be updated to include Tyne and Wear and Northumberland?

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24 Dec 2013, 9:59 am #288
Oops, even in promotional videos Arriva can't have the correct buses on the X10/X11..!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxNa67-sL...e=youtu.be
Dan
24 Dec 2013, 9:59 am #288

Oops, even in promotional videos Arriva can't have the correct buses on the X10/X11..!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxNa67-sL...e=youtu.be

tyresmoke



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24 Dec 2013, 1:59 pm #289
Stockton drivers are raising money for charity today with a Christmas dress up day Smile

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tyresmoke
24 Dec 2013, 1:59 pm #289

Stockton drivers are raising money for charity today with a Christmas dress up day Smile


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Kuyoyo



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24 Dec 2013, 8:34 pm #290
The second Pulsar to be de-branded at Stockton is 1452, meaning the end of the '29' branding and officially should see the end of Pulsars on the route

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Kuyoyo
24 Dec 2013, 8:34 pm #290

The second Pulsar to be de-branded at Stockton is 1452, meaning the end of the '29' branding and officially should see the end of Pulsars on the route

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24 Dec 2013, 8:54 pm #291
(24 Dec 2013, 8:34 pm)Kuyoyo The second Pulsar to be de-branded at Stockton is 1452, meaning the end of the '29' branding and officially should see the end of Pulsars on the route

Won't be so fresh in the new year!

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tyresmoke
24 Dec 2013, 8:54 pm #291

(24 Dec 2013, 8:34 pm)Kuyoyo The second Pulsar to be de-branded at Stockton is 1452, meaning the end of the '29' branding and officially should see the end of Pulsars on the route

Won't be so fresh in the new year!


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24 Dec 2013, 9:08 pm #292
(23 Dec 2013, 10:13 pm)nk55 Noticed 1476 also has only offside branding for the captains tale. Why has it not got nearside branding like 1474?, the X1 "the best one" is branded both sides as has the sapphire. I'm gonna look at the X10/X11 when i'm in newcastle next because it is completely baffling.

At the moment, some of the 1473-79 pulsars have nearside advert boards, some have been removed in preparation of vinyls being added but since the pulsars are out almost every day, it's taking some time by the looks of it.
palatine3833
24 Dec 2013, 9:08 pm #292

(23 Dec 2013, 10:13 pm)nk55 Noticed 1476 also has only offside branding for the captains tale. Why has it not got nearside branding like 1474?, the X1 "the best one" is branded both sides as has the sapphire. I'm gonna look at the X10/X11 when i'm in newcastle next because it is completely baffling.

At the moment, some of the 1473-79 pulsars have nearside advert boards, some have been removed in preparation of vinyls being added but since the pulsars are out almost every day, it's taking some time by the looks of it.

tyresmoke



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27 Dec 2013, 10:44 am #293
Training coach 9993 is in Stockton yard today which should be 1212 V212DJR but as it's missing a few front panels I've not been able to check yet.

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tyresmoke
27 Dec 2013, 10:44 am #293

Training coach 9993 is in Stockton yard today which should be 1212 V212DJR but as it's missing a few front panels I've not been able to check yet.


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27 Dec 2013, 1:13 pm #294
I'm assuming this will be the one I saw being towed past Thorpe Thewles on Christmas Eve
palatine3833
27 Dec 2013, 1:13 pm #294

I'm assuming this will be the one I saw being towed past Thorpe Thewles on Christmas Eve

upt50k



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27 Dec 2013, 1:55 pm #295
I find arriva day and weekly tickets a mish mash of some quoting zones i.e. triple zone or local areas i.e. Durham Darlington Surely a zone system of letters or numbers would be more appropriate and be easier for drivers to check and could be in large enough print to make this an easy read. Ticket variants are introduced and amended e g Bishop Area ticket extended to Durham and Crook and Durham District well extended beyond what could be considered as LOCAL.At the last price rise the All Zones went up to £7.30 which customers expected and accepted but this was closely followed by the Durham County ticket which apparently should have been available at the price rise but was late.These two tickets are confusing and unnecessary as you can travel in and out of Teesside and Darlington with a County ticket The X1 ticket is exceptional value and is available also on the No1 covering areas where X1 does not even go eg parts of Shildon and Heighington Also the X1 now goes to Tow Law leading to overriding as the X1 ticket was introduced to be used from Crook Market Place It seems tickets are introduced by marketing or amended without consideration as to they will work in practice
upt50k
27 Dec 2013, 1:55 pm #295

I find arriva day and weekly tickets a mish mash of some quoting zones i.e. triple zone or local areas i.e. Durham Darlington Surely a zone system of letters or numbers would be more appropriate and be easier for drivers to check and could be in large enough print to make this an easy read. Ticket variants are introduced and amended e g Bishop Area ticket extended to Durham and Crook and Durham District well extended beyond what could be considered as LOCAL.At the last price rise the All Zones went up to £7.30 which customers expected and accepted but this was closely followed by the Durham County ticket which apparently should have been available at the price rise but was late.These two tickets are confusing and unnecessary as you can travel in and out of Teesside and Darlington with a County ticket The X1 ticket is exceptional value and is available also on the No1 covering areas where X1 does not even go eg parts of Shildon and Heighington Also the X1 now goes to Tow Law leading to overriding as the X1 ticket was introduced to be used from Crook Market Place It seems tickets are introduced by marketing or amended without consideration as to they will work in practice

tyresmoke



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27 Dec 2013, 7:37 pm #296
(27 Dec 2013, 10:44 am)tyresmoke Training coach 9993 is in Stockton yard today which should be 1212 V212DJR but as it's missing a few front panels I've not been able to check yet.

A quick look in the cab confirmed it as 1212...
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tyresmoke
27 Dec 2013, 7:37 pm #296

(27 Dec 2013, 10:44 am)tyresmoke Training coach 9993 is in Stockton yard today which should be 1212 V212DJR but as it's missing a few front panels I've not been able to check yet.

A quick look in the cab confirmed it as 1212...
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30 Dec 2013, 9:34 am #297
Whitby service changes from 26th January 2014
Service 91 will no longer operate
Service 94 will run to a revised timetable with basic frequency cut from every 20 mins to every 30 mins
Service 95 will be revised to run as a service 95/96 in a loop every 30 mins to Sleights. 95 will run to Sleights via Ruswarp, returning direct via Guisborough Road, while 96 will run in the opposite direction each once an hour.
This means the PVR of town services drops from 3 to 2.

From Easter, the new Whitby Park & Ride will start running from the new build site at Crossbutts on the A171 road out to Guisborough. Buses will run every 15 minutes operating via a loop in the town centre, including the bus station giving links with other services. This will be operated by Arriva with 2 vehicles, which is likely to be Solos. The service will run until the end of October between 0800-1900 every day.

Also starting around the same time is the new "Esk Valley Hopper" which will be a new tourist service running from Whitby to Danby via Ruswarp, Sleights, Grosmont, Egton Bridge and Lealholm every hour between 0900-1600. This will run at weekends and every day during the peak summer holiday season (kids holidays basically) between Easter and October. It will be operated by Coastal & Country.

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tyresmoke
30 Dec 2013, 9:34 am #297

Whitby service changes from 26th January 2014
Service 91 will no longer operate
Service 94 will run to a revised timetable with basic frequency cut from every 20 mins to every 30 mins
Service 95 will be revised to run as a service 95/96 in a loop every 30 mins to Sleights. 95 will run to Sleights via Ruswarp, returning direct via Guisborough Road, while 96 will run in the opposite direction each once an hour.
This means the PVR of town services drops from 3 to 2.

From Easter, the new Whitby Park & Ride will start running from the new build site at Crossbutts on the A171 road out to Guisborough. Buses will run every 15 minutes operating via a loop in the town centre, including the bus station giving links with other services. This will be operated by Arriva with 2 vehicles, which is likely to be Solos. The service will run until the end of October between 0800-1900 every day.

Also starting around the same time is the new "Esk Valley Hopper" which will be a new tourist service running from Whitby to Danby via Ruswarp, Sleights, Grosmont, Egton Bridge and Lealholm every hour between 0900-1600. This will run at weekends and every day during the peak summer holiday season (kids holidays basically) between Easter and October. It will be operated by Coastal & Country.


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Michael



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30 Dec 2013, 1:28 pm #298
(30 Dec 2013, 9:34 am)tyresmoke Whitby service changes from 26th January 2014
Service 91 will no longer operate
Service 94 will run to a revised timetable with basic frequency cut from every 20 mins to every 30 mins
Service 95 will be revised to run as a service 95/96 in a loop every 30 mins to Sleights. 95 will run to Sleights via Ruswarp, returning direct via Guisborough Road, while 96 will run in the opposite direction each once an hour.
This means the PVR of town services drops from 3 to 2.

From Easter, the new Whitby Park & Ride will start running from the new build site at Crossbutts on the A171 road out to Guisborough. Buses will run every 15 minutes operating via a loop in the town centre, including the bus station giving links with other services. This will be operated by Arriva with 2 vehicles, which is likely to be Solos. The service will run until the end of October between 0800-1900 every day.

Also starting around the same time is the new "Esk Valley Hopper" which will be a new tourist service running from Whitby to Danby via Ruswarp, Sleights, Grosmont, Egton Bridge and Lealholm every hour between 0900-1600. This will run at weekends and every day during the peak summer holiday season (kids holidays basically) between Easter and October. It will be operated by Coastal & Country.


Are these changes good or bad, not sure of the services in Whitby

Their doing a better job than GNE with announcing changes.. lol

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
30 Dec 2013, 1:28 pm #298

(30 Dec 2013, 9:34 am)tyresmoke Whitby service changes from 26th January 2014
Service 91 will no longer operate
Service 94 will run to a revised timetable with basic frequency cut from every 20 mins to every 30 mins
Service 95 will be revised to run as a service 95/96 in a loop every 30 mins to Sleights. 95 will run to Sleights via Ruswarp, returning direct via Guisborough Road, while 96 will run in the opposite direction each once an hour.
This means the PVR of town services drops from 3 to 2.

From Easter, the new Whitby Park & Ride will start running from the new build site at Crossbutts on the A171 road out to Guisborough. Buses will run every 15 minutes operating via a loop in the town centre, including the bus station giving links with other services. This will be operated by Arriva with 2 vehicles, which is likely to be Solos. The service will run until the end of October between 0800-1900 every day.

Also starting around the same time is the new "Esk Valley Hopper" which will be a new tourist service running from Whitby to Danby via Ruswarp, Sleights, Grosmont, Egton Bridge and Lealholm every hour between 0900-1600. This will run at weekends and every day during the peak summer holiday season (kids holidays basically) between Easter and October. It will be operated by Coastal & Country.


Are these changes good or bad, not sure of the services in Whitby

Their doing a better job than GNE with announcing changes.. lol


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

tyresmoke



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31 Dec 2013, 6:27 pm #299
(30 Dec 2013, 1:28 pm)Michael Are these changes good or bad, not sure of the services in Whitby

Their doing a better job than GNE with announcing changes.. lol

It means Castle Park loses its service, and Ruswarp drops to an hourly service (currently half hourly).

Seeing as its been posted elsewhere, I can now confirm that Arriva NE will be receiving 47 new vehicles next year across the region, with the potential for more if we do well Smile
They will be a mix of midi, single and double deck vehicles, benefiting passengers from Northumbria to North Yorkshire...

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tyresmoke
31 Dec 2013, 6:27 pm #299

(30 Dec 2013, 1:28 pm)Michael Are these changes good or bad, not sure of the services in Whitby

Their doing a better job than GNE with announcing changes.. lol

It means Castle Park loses its service, and Ruswarp drops to an hourly service (currently half hourly).

Seeing as its been posted elsewhere, I can now confirm that Arriva NE will be receiving 47 new vehicles next year across the region, with the potential for more if we do well Smile
They will be a mix of midi, single and double deck vehicles, benefiting passengers from Northumbria to North Yorkshire...


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cbma06



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31 Dec 2013, 8:30 pm #300
Arriva logo set to vanish as bus transition begins:


Arriva’s logo will be making a vanishing act come Thursday, when the British transport operator will officially end its ill-fated two-and-a-half-year journey in Malta. A spokeswoman for the Transport Ministry confirmed that Arriva Malta’s brand name would start to be phased out from January 2.

“The short timeframes do not allow for all bus liveries to be changed overnight but an effort will be made to remove the Arriva logo from tickets and other instances where it appears,” she said.

The start of the transition should be a normal day for commuters as Transport Malta will “prioritise customer service over branding”.

In a move which averted the company filing for liquidation – a messy prospect for both Arriva and the government – Transport Malta has taken over the company and a portion of its substantial debts. However, the government will not remain the owner and will eventually issue a call for expressions of interest for another private operator.

source:
http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/vie...sMo3a-YZMs


cbma06
31 Dec 2013, 8:30 pm #300

Arriva logo set to vanish as bus transition begins:


Arriva’s logo will be making a vanishing act come Thursday, when the British transport operator will officially end its ill-fated two-and-a-half-year journey in Malta. A spokeswoman for the Transport Ministry confirmed that Arriva Malta’s brand name would start to be phased out from January 2.

“The short timeframes do not allow for all bus liveries to be changed overnight but an effort will be made to remove the Arriva logo from tickets and other instances where it appears,” she said.

The start of the transition should be a normal day for commuters as Transport Malta will “prioritise customer service over branding”.

In a move which averted the company filing for liquidation – a messy prospect for both Arriva and the government – Transport Malta has taken over the company and a portion of its substantial debts. However, the government will not remain the owner and will eventually issue a call for expressions of interest for another private operator.

source:
http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/vie...sMo3a-YZMs



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