(06 Jan 2014, 9:48 am)Dan Are they not travelling to work? I'd have thought that morning express services to Cobalt Business Park were to take people to work, rather than into Newcastle (where they will probably meet a connection to another bus when going home)...
Can't say I understand why both Arriva and Go North East would operate a service in the opposite direction to the demand...
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(06 Jan 2014, 9:48 am)Dan Are they not travelling to work? I'd have thought that morning express services to Cobalt Business Park were to take people to work, rather than into Newcastle (where they will probably meet a connection to another bus when going home)...
Can't say I understand why both Arriva and Go North East would operate a service in the opposite direction to the demand...
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(06 Jan 2014, 10:25 am)tyresmoke I was more on about the passengers heading out of Newcastle to the likes of Tynemouth and Whitley Bay (306) Dan, Cobalt demand exists hence a service is operated.
(06 Jan 2014, 10:25 am)tyresmoke I was more on about the passengers heading out of Newcastle to the likes of Tynemouth and Whitley Bay (306) Dan, Cobalt demand exists hence a service is operated.
Not very often we bring accident news from the scence but tonight I can
Prestige 4048 was involved in a minor smash in Middlesbrough Bus Station......with the bus station itself. Prior to working the 1725 X6, the driver turned it on and it shot forwards from the layover bay to crash into the window next to the out door on Stand 9, bending the door frame in the process as well as smashing the glass and causing minor damage to itself.
(07 Jan 2014, 10:01 pm)Tom Why did Arriva ever withdraw the X60/X61, always seemed busy too me...?
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(07 Jan 2014, 10:01 pm)Tom Why did Arriva ever withdraw the X60/X61, always seemed busy too me...?
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VOSA today:
PB0002717/300 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Middlesbrough and Kingsmead given service number X17 effective from 16-Feb-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.
PB0002717/303 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Middlesbrough and New Marske given service number 64/64A effective from 16-Feb-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.
PB0002717/304 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Middlesbrough and Ings Farm given service number 22 effective from 16-Feb-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.
PB0002717/306 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between New Marske and Stokesley given service number 81/81a effective from 16-Feb-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.
PB0002717/307 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Middlesbrough and Redcar given service number 63 effective from 16-Feb-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.
PB0002717/308 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Whitby and Loftus given service number 4 effective from 16-Feb-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.
PB0002717/314 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Middlesbrough and Overfields given service number 9 effective from 16-Feb-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.
PB0002717/315 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Middlesbrough and Lingdale given service number 28/28B/28b effective from 16-Feb-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.
PB0002717/316 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Middlesbrough and Stokesley given service number 29/29a effective from 16-Feb-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.
PB0002717/317 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Stockton and Yarm, Willey Flatts given service number 7/7A effective from 16-Feb-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.
PB0002717/318 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between North Tees Hospital and Ingleby Barwick given service number 15 effective from 16-Feb-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.
PB0002717/320 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Netherfields and Middlesbrough given service number 27/27A effective from 16-Feb-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.
PB0002717/321 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Middlesbrough and Kingsmead given service number 17b/17/17A effective from 16-Feb-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.
PB0002717/335 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Middlesbrough and Peterlee given service number 21A/21a effective from 16-Feb-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.
PB0002717/353 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Redcar
Finish Point: Lingdale
Via:
Service Number: 3
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 16-FEB-2014
Other Details: Sundays & Bank Holidays, hourly
PB0002717/354 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Middlesbrough
Finish Point: Lingdale
Via:
Service Number: X3A
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 16-FEB-2014
Other Details: Operates Mon-Sat, up to every 30 mins
4048 rolled forward from the central parking bays - the driver wasn't even on it!
Don't like these Saturday reductions. Busiest shopping day of the week. Can understand the traditional later starts.
Where in the High Street will the 63 turn round to save time on going to the High Street?! I understand they are going back to their previous route via the sea front in both directions.
The short 81s diverted via Green Lane also to replace the 4 (but only half the frequency).
(08 Jan 2014, 4:56 pm)Roland Pratt Don't like these Saturday reductions. Busiest shopping day of the week. Can understand the traditional later starts.
Where in the High Street will the 63 turn round to save time on going to the High Street?! I understand they are going back to their previous route via the sea front in both directions.
The short 81s diverted via Green Lane also to replace the 4 (but only half the frequency).
(08 Jan 2014, 4:56 pm)Roland Pratt Don't like these Saturday reductions. Busiest shopping day of the week. Can understand the traditional later starts.
Where in the High Street will the 63 turn round to save time on going to the High Street?! I understand they are going back to their previous route via the sea front in both directions.
The short 81s diverted via Green Lane also to replace the 4 (but only half the frequency).
(07 Jan 2014, 10:01 pm)Tom Why did Arriva ever withdraw the X60/X61, always seemed busy too me...?
(07 Jan 2014, 10:01 pm)Tom Why did Arriva ever withdraw the X60/X61, always seemed busy too me...?
Been using the 56/57/57A again for a change lately, and I find the loadings are ridiculous at peak times. To the point that passengers are having to alight at every stop to allow others further back to alight the bus. Solos are mainly allocated to these routes (I believe they interwork). I wouldn't say it's exactly a decker route, but certainly enough to completely fill all seats on an Omnicity or Pulsar. Anyone noticed anything similar or aware of any upcoming changes?
(08 Jan 2014, 6:50 pm)aureolin Been using the 56/57/57A again for a change lately, and I find the loadings are ridiculous at peak times. To the point that passengers are having to alight at every stop to allow others further back to alight the bus. Solos are mainly allocated to these routes (I believe they interwork). I wouldn't say it's exactly a decker route, but certainly enough to completely fill all seats on an Omnicity or Pulsar. Anyone noticed anything similar or aware of any upcoming changes?
(08 Jan 2014, 6:50 pm)aureolin Been using the 56/57/57A again for a change lately, and I find the loadings are ridiculous at peak times. To the point that passengers are having to alight at every stop to allow others further back to alight the bus. Solos are mainly allocated to these routes (I believe they interwork). I wouldn't say it's exactly a decker route, but certainly enough to completely fill all seats on an Omnicity or Pulsar. Anyone noticed anything similar or aware of any upcoming changes?
(08 Jan 2014, 4:56 pm)Roland Pratt Don't like these Saturday reductions. Busiest shopping day of the week. Can understand the traditional later starts.
Where in the High Street will the 63 turn round to save time on going to the High Street?! I understand they are going back to their previous route via the sea front in both directions.
The short 81s diverted via Green Lane also to replace the 4 (but only half the frequency).
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(08 Jan 2014, 4:56 pm)Roland Pratt Don't like these Saturday reductions. Busiest shopping day of the week. Can understand the traditional later starts.
Where in the High Street will the 63 turn round to save time on going to the High Street?! I understand they are going back to their previous route via the sea front in both directions.
The short 81s diverted via Green Lane also to replace the 4 (but only half the frequency).
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(08 Jan 2014, 6:50 pm)aureolin Been using the 56/57/57A again for a change lately, and I find the loadings are ridiculous at peak times. To the point that passengers are having to alight at every stop to allow others further back to alight the bus. Solos are mainly allocated to these routes (I believe they interwork). I wouldn't say it's exactly a decker route, but certainly enough to completely fill all seats on an Omnicity or Pulsar. Anyone noticed anything similar or aware of any upcoming changes?
(08 Jan 2014, 6:50 pm)aureolin Been using the 56/57/57A again for a change lately, and I find the loadings are ridiculous at peak times. To the point that passengers are having to alight at every stop to allow others further back to alight the bus. Solos are mainly allocated to these routes (I believe they interwork). I wouldn't say it's exactly a decker route, but certainly enough to completely fill all seats on an Omnicity or Pulsar. Anyone noticed anything similar or aware of any upcoming changes?
(08 Jan 2014, 4:56 pm)Roland Pratt Don't like these Saturday reductions. Busiest shopping day of the week. Can understand the traditional later starts.
(08 Jan 2014, 4:56 pm)Roland Pratt Don't like these Saturday reductions. Busiest shopping day of the week. Can understand the traditional later starts.
(09 Jan 2014, 3:05 pm)VolvoMarkII Do you really think that the reductions would take place if that was the case? The only thing I see busy on Saturdays is the local car parks, since Middlesbrough Council decided in their wisdom to offer free parking! I bet that has taken a huge hit on Arriva and Stagecoach.
I suspect a 7/8 minute frequency on Service 27 for example, may be sufficient for Monday to Fridays where people go shopping and work, but Saturdays the passenger numbers assumingly are lower, they have chosen to reduce to a 10 minute frequency. Not exactly end of the world.
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(09 Jan 2014, 3:05 pm)VolvoMarkII Do you really think that the reductions would take place if that was the case? The only thing I see busy on Saturdays is the local car parks, since Middlesbrough Council decided in their wisdom to offer free parking! I bet that has taken a huge hit on Arriva and Stagecoach.
I suspect a 7/8 minute frequency on Service 27 for example, may be sufficient for Monday to Fridays where people go shopping and work, but Saturdays the passenger numbers assumingly are lower, they have chosen to reduce to a 10 minute frequency. Not exactly end of the world.
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(08 Jan 2014, 5:24 pm)Kuyoyo Wrong 81, 81a is serving Green Lane, the short 81 will run current route. As for the High Street terminating peak 63s, as the timetables are due to be released later this week, they will reveal all.
As for 4048, I can only say I didn't see the full accident, just the driver moving it clear. The full details are known to me now but given the nature, they will not be reported here.
(08 Jan 2014, 5:24 pm)Kuyoyo Wrong 81, 81a is serving Green Lane, the short 81 will run current route. As for the High Street terminating peak 63s, as the timetables are due to be released later this week, they will reveal all.
As for 4048, I can only say I didn't see the full accident, just the driver moving it clear. The full details are known to me now but given the nature, they will not be reported here.
(10 Jan 2014, 4:59 pm)Roland Pratt Would have thought it would have been better to report the true facts than incorrectly speculate on what haoppened.
(10 Jan 2014, 4:59 pm)Roland Pratt Would have thought it would have been better to report the true facts than incorrectly speculate on what haoppened.
