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Arriva North East: Latest News & Discussion - March 2014

Arriva North East: Latest News & Discussion - March 2014

 
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31 Mar 2014, 5:15 pm #501
(28 Mar 2014, 10:25 pm)tyresmoke The Omnicities are due for a well needed refurbishment this summer, I'm not sure when but they'll probably be after some of the new stock arrives. No doubt it'll give some Prestiges an extended stay to cover them. Once refurbished I think they'll be allocated to different depots than at present, though...

I think we'll see more Temsas stay at Redcar than expected as a result, with only a handful moving out. From what I've been told, as they're such a non standard batch, a lot of parts are not available quickly and therefore have to be specially ordered. Hence when they are VOR, it can be for long periods even for what you would think would be simple fixes. A new piece of glass can take 2-3 weeks to arrive for example. Therefore the idea was to spread them between the depots to help minimise the effect on one depot (ie Redcar) by spreading the issue between 2 or 3 depots instead.

So what's changed?!
Roland Pratt
31 Mar 2014, 5:15 pm #501

(28 Mar 2014, 10:25 pm)tyresmoke The Omnicities are due for a well needed refurbishment this summer, I'm not sure when but they'll probably be after some of the new stock arrives. No doubt it'll give some Prestiges an extended stay to cover them. Once refurbished I think they'll be allocated to different depots than at present, though...

I think we'll see more Temsas stay at Redcar than expected as a result, with only a handful moving out. From what I've been told, as they're such a non standard batch, a lot of parts are not available quickly and therefore have to be specially ordered. Hence when they are VOR, it can be for long periods even for what you would think would be simple fixes. A new piece of glass can take 2-3 weeks to arrive for example. Therefore the idea was to spread them between the depots to help minimise the effect on one depot (ie Redcar) by spreading the issue between 2 or 3 depots instead.

So what's changed?!

Tom



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31 Mar 2014, 5:16 pm #502
(31 Mar 2014, 5:11 pm)Davey Bowyer If the source on here from the other day was correct about the X18 being changed from B9TL to E400's, with Ariva ordering 6 in Sapphire spec for the X21 and X22, will they take the plunge and do the same with the X18?

Also, what other routes in the "Northumbria" area do you think will get a sparkle in the near future? I'd say that the next likely candidate will be the the X10 and X11. I'd also say that the 308 could be a potential candidate too but I don't know whether or not the B5LH could have power sockets fitted.

Think the X10/X11 could get upgraded to Sapphire in 2016, with Geminis transferring to Jesmond for the 43/44/45.
Tom
31 Mar 2014, 5:16 pm #502

(31 Mar 2014, 5:11 pm)Davey Bowyer If the source on here from the other day was correct about the X18 being changed from B9TL to E400's, with Ariva ordering 6 in Sapphire spec for the X21 and X22, will they take the plunge and do the same with the X18?

Also, what other routes in the "Northumbria" area do you think will get a sparkle in the near future? I'd say that the next likely candidate will be the the X10 and X11. I'd also say that the 308 could be a potential candidate too but I don't know whether or not the B5LH could have power sockets fitted.

Think the X10/X11 could get upgraded to Sapphire in 2016, with Geminis transferring to Jesmond for the 43/44/45.

31 Mar 2014, 5:18 pm #503
I'm assuming here,given my limited knowledge that the Tyne-Tees express is operated using B9TL's? Always been impressed and thought, if money/revenue was available they would work well on our X93's?
robisdave15
31 Mar 2014, 5:18 pm #503

I'm assuming here,given my limited knowledge that the Tyne-Tees express is operated using B9TL's? Always been impressed and thought, if money/revenue was available they would work well on our X93's?

Tom



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31 Mar 2014, 5:19 pm #504
(31 Mar 2014, 5:18 pm)robisdave15 I'm assuming here,given my limited knowledge that the Tyne-Tees express is operated using B9TL's? Always been impressed and thought, if money/revenue was available they would work well on our X93's?

Yes, they are. But the TTX is a GNE service.
Tom
31 Mar 2014, 5:19 pm #504

(31 Mar 2014, 5:18 pm)robisdave15 I'm assuming here,given my limited knowledge that the Tyne-Tees express is operated using B9TL's? Always been impressed and thought, if money/revenue was available they would work well on our X93's?

Yes, they are. But the TTX is a GNE service.

Kuyoyo



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31 Mar 2014, 5:23 pm #505
(31 Mar 2014, 5:18 pm)robisdave15 I'm assuming here,given my limited knowledge that the Tyne-Tees express is operated using B9TL's? Always been impressed and thought, if money/revenue was available they would work well on our X93's?

The B9TL won't be available anymore come the time the X93 order is placed.
Kuyoyo
31 Mar 2014, 5:23 pm #505

(31 Mar 2014, 5:18 pm)robisdave15 I'm assuming here,given my limited knowledge that the Tyne-Tees express is operated using B9TL's? Always been impressed and thought, if money/revenue was available they would work well on our X93's?

The B9TL won't be available anymore come the time the X93 order is placed.

31 Mar 2014, 5:32 pm #506
LIke I said, I've limited knowledge on types but plenty on that we'll never have new buses on the x93 for as long as they can bring the cast offs up here.
robisdave15
31 Mar 2014, 5:32 pm #506

LIke I said, I've limited knowledge on types but plenty on that we'll never have new buses on the x93 for as long as they can bring the cast offs up here.

31 Mar 2014, 5:37 pm #507
It's a shame that Volvo have stopped producing the B9TL. However, with a bit of hope, if Volvo get enough feedback from operators who need power, then they'll either give operators the option of the B8TL or,
keep the B9TL in production if not too late and make it compliant with Euro 6.
Davey Bowyer
31 Mar 2014, 5:37 pm #507

It's a shame that Volvo have stopped producing the B9TL. However, with a bit of hope, if Volvo get enough feedback from operators who need power, then they'll either give operators the option of the B8TL or,
keep the B9TL in production if not too late and make it compliant with Euro 6.

Kuyoyo



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31 Mar 2014, 6:00 pm #508
The change to service 6 today didn't go completely to plan (the ticket machines failed to register the updated duties, and the 1810 Middlesbrough-Fairfield operated with the wrong screen displayed due to an non-updated list), but the allocating is as followed for the Fairfield journeys:
0728 Fairfield-Middlesbrough is on the front of a 27 working
1810 Middlesbrough-Fairfield is on the end of a 9 board (works light from Netherfields after the 1727 27a).
Kuyoyo
31 Mar 2014, 6:00 pm #508

The change to service 6 today didn't go completely to plan (the ticket machines failed to register the updated duties, and the 1810 Middlesbrough-Fairfield operated with the wrong screen displayed due to an non-updated list), but the allocating is as followed for the Fairfield journeys:
0728 Fairfield-Middlesbrough is on the front of a 27 working
1810 Middlesbrough-Fairfield is on the end of a 9 board (works light from Netherfields after the 1727 27a).

31 Mar 2014, 6:59 pm #509
(31 Mar 2014, 5:13 pm)Roland Pratt Can't make any amendments? They brought in a change a week or so after the changes!

Purely to accommodate a school movement, yes.

Slighty more important than addressing connection times, hence the justification for doing so.
Edited 31 Mar 2014, 7:00 pm by VolvoMarkII.
VolvoMarkII
31 Mar 2014, 6:59 pm #509

(31 Mar 2014, 5:13 pm)Roland Pratt Can't make any amendments? They brought in a change a week or so after the changes!

Purely to accommodate a school movement, yes.

Slighty more important than addressing connection times, hence the justification for doing so.

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