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Arriva North East: Latest News & Discussion - May 2014

 
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02 May 2014, 8:38 am #21
Afraid I still can't get my head round the allocations for our x93? Redcar currently have 8 deckers, in theory, available yet we've got Temsa 4720 deployed on what will be the 1025 trip ex MBS, a trip which I thought, with it being a Bank Holiday, could well be busy and warrant a decker? On the flip side of this 20 does seem to be in good fettle.
robisdave15
02 May 2014, 8:38 am #21

Afraid I still can't get my head round the allocations for our x93? Redcar currently have 8 deckers, in theory, available yet we've got Temsa 4720 deployed on what will be the 1025 trip ex MBS, a trip which I thought, with it being a Bank Holiday, could well be busy and warrant a decker? On the flip side of this 20 does seem to be in good fettle.

02 May 2014, 8:44 am #22
Don't know anything about these Volvo B10BLE's that are coming down to Redcar, oother than what I've read on here? They sound like a decent machine but don't think they are tacho fitted?
robisdave15
02 May 2014, 8:44 am #22

Don't know anything about these Volvo B10BLE's that are coming down to Redcar, oother than what I've read on here? They sound like a decent machine but don't think they are tacho fitted?

02 May 2014, 9:31 am #23
4513 4515 are tacographed
David McGloin
02 May 2014, 9:31 am #23

4513 4515 are tacographed

02 May 2014, 10:07 am #24
Thanks David. Never ridden them, just wonder if they'd be good on our x93?
robisdave15
02 May 2014, 10:07 am #24

Thanks David. Never ridden them, just wonder if they'd be good on our x93?

02 May 2014, 10:20 am #25
Looking as though the change to running the Whitby services down the coast (x4/4) has been a masterstroke? Like Tyresmoke I'll be interested to see/read how things work out when the season gets going and if we get a good summer?
robisdave15
02 May 2014, 10:20 am #25

Looking as though the change to running the Whitby services down the coast (x4/4) has been a masterstroke? Like Tyresmoke I'll be interested to see/read how things work out when the season gets going and if we get a good summer?

mb134



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02 May 2014, 10:25 am #26
(02 May 2014, 10:07 am)robisdave15 Thanks David. Never ridden them, just wonder if they'd be good on our x93?
They've got plenty of power and seem pretty reliable and they are used often on Sunday X18's (4513+15)
mb134
02 May 2014, 10:25 am #26

(02 May 2014, 10:07 am)robisdave15 Thanks David. Never ridden them, just wonder if they'd be good on our x93?
They've got plenty of power and seem pretty reliable and they are used often on Sunday X18's (4513+15)

tango



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02 May 2014, 11:49 am #27
Sorry if this has been asked previously but I'm just curious as to what extent the omnicitys are being refurbished to? Will they be getting the cream grab poles and same flooring and seat fabric as the pulsars, or is it just more of a general tart up of the interior
tango
02 May 2014, 11:49 am #27

Sorry if this has been asked previously but I'm just curious as to what extent the omnicitys are being refurbished to? Will they be getting the cream grab poles and same flooring and seat fabric as the pulsars, or is it just more of a general tart up of the interior

Kuyoyo



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02 May 2014, 1:43 pm #28
(02 May 2014, 11:49 am)tango Sorry if this has been asked previously but I'm just curious as to what extent the omnicitys are being refurbished to? Will they be getting the cream grab poles and same flooring and seat fabric as the pulsars, or is it just more of a general tart up of the interior

4643-51/5-7 are to be refurbished to 'Max' specification with leather seats. 4660-2/4 will be done to standard specification with the same interior as the Pulsars. What will happen to 4652-4/8/9/63 is unknown at present.
Kuyoyo
02 May 2014, 1:43 pm #28

(02 May 2014, 11:49 am)tango Sorry if this has been asked previously but I'm just curious as to what extent the omnicitys are being refurbished to? Will they be getting the cream grab poles and same flooring and seat fabric as the pulsars, or is it just more of a general tart up of the interior

4643-51/5-7 are to be refurbished to 'Max' specification with leather seats. 4660-2/4 will be done to standard specification with the same interior as the Pulsars. What will happen to 4652-4/8/9/63 is unknown at present.

G-CPTN



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02 May 2014, 1:58 pm #29
Will the 85/685 vehicles which have leather seats be transferred to other routes (as the passengers have 'rejected' the slippery seats and Arriva have promised fabric covered seats) - or will the leather seats be replaced?

http://www.hexhamcourant.co.uk/news/2.29...-1.1117652
G-CPTN
02 May 2014, 1:58 pm #29

Will the 85/685 vehicles which have leather seats be transferred to other routes (as the passengers have 'rejected' the slippery seats and Arriva have promised fabric covered seats) - or will the leather seats be replaced?

http://www.hexhamcourant.co.uk/news/2.29...-1.1117652

Kuyoyo



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02 May 2014, 2:33 pm #30
(02 May 2014, 1:58 pm)G-CPTN Will the 85/685 vehicles which have leather seats be transferred to other routes (as the passengers have 'rejected' the slippery seats and Arriva have promised fabric covered seats) - or will the leather seats be replaced?

http://www.hexhamcourant.co.uk/news/2.29...-1.1117652

(02 May 2014, 1:43 pm)Kuyoyo 4643-51/5-7 are to be refurbished to 'Max' specification with leather seats. 4660-2/4 will be done to standard specification with the same interior as the Pulsars. What will happen to 4652-4/8/9/63 is unknown at present.
Edited 02 May 2014, 2:34 pm by Kuyoyo.
Kuyoyo
02 May 2014, 2:33 pm #30

(02 May 2014, 1:58 pm)G-CPTN Will the 85/685 vehicles which have leather seats be transferred to other routes (as the passengers have 'rejected' the slippery seats and Arriva have promised fabric covered seats) - or will the leather seats be replaced?

http://www.hexhamcourant.co.uk/news/2.29...-1.1117652

(02 May 2014, 1:43 pm)Kuyoyo 4643-51/5-7 are to be refurbished to 'Max' specification with leather seats. 4660-2/4 will be done to standard specification with the same interior as the Pulsars. What will happen to 4652-4/8/9/63 is unknown at present.

Tom



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02 May 2014, 2:46 pm #31

So they won't be done to the same spec at 4653? I think having uncomfortable seats for a long journey is unacceptable.
Tom
02 May 2014, 2:46 pm #31


So they won't be done to the same spec at 4653? I think having uncomfortable seats for a long journey is unacceptable.

Kuyoyo



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02 May 2014, 3:10 pm #32
(02 May 2014, 2:46 pm)Tom So they won't be done to the same spec at 4653? I think having uncomfortable seats for a long journey is unacceptable.

I give up! Can nobody get what I'm hinting at - 4660-4 will be refurbished, their current seats (which are the same as in the Pulsars just with headrests rather than holders) will be re-trimmed into the current Arriva moquette of two-tone blue squares as found in the Pulsars.
Edited 02 May 2014, 3:10 pm by Kuyoyo.
Kuyoyo
02 May 2014, 3:10 pm #32

(02 May 2014, 2:46 pm)Tom So they won't be done to the same spec at 4653? I think having uncomfortable seats for a long journey is unacceptable.

I give up! Can nobody get what I'm hinting at - 4660-4 will be refurbished, their current seats (which are the same as in the Pulsars just with headrests rather than holders) will be re-trimmed into the current Arriva moquette of two-tone blue squares as found in the Pulsars.

02 May 2014, 4:14 pm #33
I got it! Love the Ommis and pleased they are to be dobe, disappointed Redcar are losing theirs but hey ho, got them on the X66 and I read that Stockton are keeping theirs, which I guess could benefit from a respray.
robisdave15
02 May 2014, 4:14 pm #33

I got it! Love the Ommis and pleased they are to be dobe, disappointed Redcar are losing theirs but hey ho, got them on the X66 and I read that Stockton are keeping theirs, which I guess could benefit from a respray.

02 May 2014, 4:40 pm #34
(01 May 2014, 5:51 pm)Richard Smiles I wonder how many other members of this forum, are becoming tired of your "Perpetual Whinging" Mr robisdave15.

I'm not. He's quite right!
Roland Pratt
02 May 2014, 4:40 pm #34

(01 May 2014, 5:51 pm)Richard Smiles I wonder how many other members of this forum, are becoming tired of your "Perpetual Whinging" Mr robisdave15.

I'm not. He's quite right!

02 May 2014, 4:47 pm #35
(01 May 2014, 4:55 pm)Kuyoyo 1766's move is ahead of the 168 moving across to Belmont from Classic.

Further PVR allocation changes are as followed:
Stockton
28 and 29 swap over - 28 is now allocated Prestiges and 29 Cadets

Ashington
35 allocation is now split - 3 workings for B10BLEs (those to be upgraded to Streetlites later in the year), and 3 for DAF DB250
X22 now down for 4 deckers (DAF DB250) and 2 singles (B10BLEs)

Durham
6/42 remains interworking (no mention of a 42 board) - 10 boards are allocated Pulsars while 3 are down to be allocated DAF DB250s

Jesmond
No chance

Redcar
Change to X3 and 81 - 2 81 boards now down as OmniCity worked while 3 X3 boards are allocated Pulsars



No chance of what?!
Roland Pratt
02 May 2014, 4:47 pm #35

(01 May 2014, 4:55 pm)Kuyoyo 1766's move is ahead of the 168 moving across to Belmont from Classic.

Further PVR allocation changes are as followed:
Stockton
28 and 29 swap over - 28 is now allocated Prestiges and 29 Cadets

Ashington
35 allocation is now split - 3 workings for B10BLEs (those to be upgraded to Streetlites later in the year), and 3 for DAF DB250
X22 now down for 4 deckers (DAF DB250) and 2 singles (B10BLEs)

Durham
6/42 remains interworking (no mention of a 42 board) - 10 boards are allocated Pulsars while 3 are down to be allocated DAF DB250s

Jesmond
No chance

Redcar
Change to X3 and 81 - 2 81 boards now down as OmniCity worked while 3 X3 boards are allocated Pulsars



No chance of what?!

02 May 2014, 4:53 pm #36
Think he meant no change?
robisdave15
02 May 2014, 4:53 pm #36

Think he meant no change?

JoshP



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02 May 2014, 4:57 pm #37
We really need to move on from this HOURLY bashing of the X93 it is so boring now. It's like the 'Latest Category' is now the 'Lastest rant about the X93 category'.

The Darlington NHS Solo's have been Debranded and are now plain white. They are probably due to be repainted asap.
JoshP
02 May 2014, 4:57 pm #37

We really need to move on from this HOURLY bashing of the X93 it is so boring now. It's like the 'Latest Category' is now the 'Lastest rant about the X93 category'.

The Darlington NHS Solo's have been Debranded and are now plain white. They are probably due to be repainted asap.

02 May 2014, 5:06 pm #38
I have been a little critical here, particularly of our friends at Redcar? In fairness some if it was kinda 'deserved' but here is not the place to air these opinions and also it's quite right to look at the bigger picture before giving voice. Tyresmoke has been good, via the PM system, in answering some questions and giving me a little bit background in what's going on, and I thank him. It's now a period of transition in a number of areas with new fleet arriving and such like; I'll be watching with interest what goes on, particularly down here on the X93, X4. In the meanwhile I'm doing what Richard says and stopping the backstabbing and moaning.
robisdave15
02 May 2014, 5:06 pm #38

I have been a little critical here, particularly of our friends at Redcar? In fairness some if it was kinda 'deserved' but here is not the place to air these opinions and also it's quite right to look at the bigger picture before giving voice. Tyresmoke has been good, via the PM system, in answering some questions and giving me a little bit background in what's going on, and I thank him. It's now a period of transition in a number of areas with new fleet arriving and such like; I'll be watching with interest what goes on, particularly down here on the X93, X4. In the meanwhile I'm doing what Richard says and stopping the backstabbing and moaning.

tyresmoke



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02 May 2014, 6:02 pm #39
(02 May 2014, 5:06 pm)robisdave15 I have been a little critical here, particularly of our friends at Redcar? In fairness some if it was kinda 'deserved' but here is not the place to air these opinions and also it's quite right to look at the bigger picture before giving voice. Tyresmoke has been good, via the PM system, in answering some questions and giving me a little bit background in what's going on, and I thank him. It's now a period of transition in a number of areas with new fleet arriving and such like; I'll be watching with interest what goes on, particularly down here on the X93, X4. In the meanwhile I'm doing what Richard says and stopping the backstabbing and moaning.

The worst part about it is much of it is well deserved! The amount of communication behind the scenes is a lot more than the moans on this forum I can say that for sure... It has resulted in some improvements that we see today in that the X4 gets solid Pulsar allocation including Whitby's share. Redcar can no longer get away with giving them all the crap they don't want.

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tyresmoke
02 May 2014, 6:02 pm #39

(02 May 2014, 5:06 pm)robisdave15 I have been a little critical here, particularly of our friends at Redcar? In fairness some if it was kinda 'deserved' but here is not the place to air these opinions and also it's quite right to look at the bigger picture before giving voice. Tyresmoke has been good, via the PM system, in answering some questions and giving me a little bit background in what's going on, and I thank him. It's now a period of transition in a number of areas with new fleet arriving and such like; I'll be watching with interest what goes on, particularly down here on the X93, X4. In the meanwhile I'm doing what Richard says and stopping the backstabbing and moaning.

The worst part about it is much of it is well deserved! The amount of communication behind the scenes is a lot more than the moans on this forum I can say that for sure... It has resulted in some improvements that we see today in that the X4 gets solid Pulsar allocation including Whitby's share. Redcar can no longer get away with giving them all the crap they don't want.


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02 May 2014, 6:19 pm #40
Thanks for that Scott. Haven't said I won't moan but let's just see what happens over the summer? Have commented already about the X4/4 ? Sure they are gonna struggle with the loadings on that? The Streetlites are 44 sweaters, right? And what about the timings? On paper they look fine, but a busy day in Whitby, sun blazing out of a blue sky? You get the picture?
robisdave15
02 May 2014, 6:19 pm #40

Thanks for that Scott. Haven't said I won't moan but let's just see what happens over the summer? Have commented already about the X4/4 ? Sure they are gonna struggle with the loadings on that? The Streetlites are 44 sweaters, right? And what about the timings? On paper they look fine, but a busy day in Whitby, sun blazing out of a blue sky? You get the picture?

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