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Arriva North East: Latest News & Discussion - August 2014

 
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Kuyoyo



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31 Aug 2014, 8:46 pm #641
(31 Aug 2014, 8:44 pm)Dan At the start of this month, one of Durham's boards was allocated a Pulsar, for about a week. For the majority of the journeys I saw for the remainder of this month, it's either been a Gemini or an ALX400...

Given the appearances of single deckers at the start of the month, I'm guessing this one was a single decker board. My sightings of double deckers for the past three weeks or so can't be down to luck, surely?

Unless you haven't see the officially allocated Pulsar boards?
Kuyoyo
31 Aug 2014, 8:46 pm #641

(31 Aug 2014, 8:44 pm)Dan At the start of this month, one of Durham's boards was allocated a Pulsar, for about a week. For the majority of the journeys I saw for the remainder of this month, it's either been a Gemini or an ALX400...

Given the appearances of single deckers at the start of the month, I'm guessing this one was a single decker board. My sightings of double deckers for the past three weeks or so can't be down to luck, surely?

Unless you haven't see the officially allocated Pulsar boards?

tyresmoke



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31 Aug 2014, 8:55 pm #642
(31 Aug 2014, 8:46 pm)Kuyoyo Unless you haven't see the officially allocated Pulsar boards?

There's certainly been Pulsars out most days, I've seen at least one! Of course it doesn't help that they have double deckers off the road, 7478 is awaiting a new engine I believe. DAF engines take forever to procure for some reason.

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31 Aug 2014, 8:55 pm #642

(31 Aug 2014, 8:46 pm)Kuyoyo Unless you haven't see the officially allocated Pulsar boards?

There's certainly been Pulsars out most days, I've seen at least one! Of course it doesn't help that they have double deckers off the road, 7478 is awaiting a new engine I believe. DAF engines take forever to procure for some reason.


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31 Aug 2014, 9:02 pm #643
(31 Aug 2014, 8:46 pm)Kuyoyo Unless you haven't see the officially allocated Pulsar boards?

Elaborate on the boards which are allocated Pulsars on paper, and I'll be able to tell you whether it was an odd working at the start of the month or the remaining three...!
Dan
31 Aug 2014, 9:02 pm #643

(31 Aug 2014, 8:46 pm)Kuyoyo Unless you haven't see the officially allocated Pulsar boards?

Elaborate on the boards which are allocated Pulsars on paper, and I'll be able to tell you whether it was an odd working at the start of the month or the remaining three...!

G-CPTN



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31 Aug 2014, 9:08 pm #644
(31 Aug 2014, 8:21 pm)mb134 Could they not take them to another depot, e.g Redcar, when they require maintenance?

What if they are non-runners?

It's possible to drag them back to a local depot, but onward to a different depot would require a transporter.
G-CPTN
31 Aug 2014, 9:08 pm #644

(31 Aug 2014, 8:21 pm)mb134 Could they not take them to another depot, e.g Redcar, when they require maintenance?

What if they are non-runners?

It's possible to drag them back to a local depot, but onward to a different depot would require a transporter.

mb134



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31 Aug 2014, 9:09 pm #645
(31 Aug 2014, 9:08 pm)G-CPTN What if they are non-runners?

It's possible to drag them back to a local depot, but onward to a different depot would require a transporter.
Say if they broke down while in service, they could ask the recovery truck to take it to Redcar depot not Stockton surely?
mb134
31 Aug 2014, 9:09 pm #645

(31 Aug 2014, 9:08 pm)G-CPTN What if they are non-runners?

It's possible to drag them back to a local depot, but onward to a different depot would require a transporter.
Say if they broke down while in service, they could ask the recovery truck to take it to Redcar depot not Stockton surely?

Kuyoyo



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31 Aug 2014, 9:11 pm #646
(31 Aug 2014, 9:02 pm)Dan Elaborate on the boards which are allocated Pulsars on paper, and I'll be able to tell you whether it was an odd working at the start of the month or the remaining three...!

I'm not at liberate to say the present ones, but for people out tomorrow, these are the Durham workings that on paper are Pulsar-workings:

Vehicle 1
0705 X1 Durham to Middlesbrough
0825 X1 Middlesbrough to Durham
0946 X2 Durham to Newcastle
1050 X2 Newcastle to Durham
1150 X1 Durham to Middlesbrough
1305 X1 Middlesbrough to Durham
1421 X2 Durham to Newcastle
1520 X2 Newcastle to Durham
1630 X1 Durham to Middlesbrough
1750 X1 Middlesbrough to Durham

Vehicle 2
0735 X2 Birtley Windsor Road to Durham
0815 X1 Durham to Middlesbrough
0935 X1 Middlesbrough to Durham
1051 X2 Durham to Newcastle
1150 X2 Newcastle to Durham
1250 X1 Durham to Middlesbrough
1405 X1 Middlesbrough to Durham
1521 X2 Durham to Newcastle
1625 X2 Newcastle to Durham
1730 X1 Durham to Middlesbrough
1850 X1 Middlesbrough to Durham
Kuyoyo
31 Aug 2014, 9:11 pm #646

(31 Aug 2014, 9:02 pm)Dan Elaborate on the boards which are allocated Pulsars on paper, and I'll be able to tell you whether it was an odd working at the start of the month or the remaining three...!

I'm not at liberate to say the present ones, but for people out tomorrow, these are the Durham workings that on paper are Pulsar-workings:

Vehicle 1
0705 X1 Durham to Middlesbrough
0825 X1 Middlesbrough to Durham
0946 X2 Durham to Newcastle
1050 X2 Newcastle to Durham
1150 X1 Durham to Middlesbrough
1305 X1 Middlesbrough to Durham
1421 X2 Durham to Newcastle
1520 X2 Newcastle to Durham
1630 X1 Durham to Middlesbrough
1750 X1 Middlesbrough to Durham

Vehicle 2
0735 X2 Birtley Windsor Road to Durham
0815 X1 Durham to Middlesbrough
0935 X1 Middlesbrough to Durham
1051 X2 Durham to Newcastle
1150 X2 Newcastle to Durham
1250 X1 Durham to Middlesbrough
1405 X1 Middlesbrough to Durham
1521 X2 Durham to Newcastle
1625 X2 Newcastle to Durham
1730 X1 Durham to Middlesbrough
1850 X1 Middlesbrough to Durham

31 Aug 2014, 9:22 pm #647
(31 Aug 2014, 9:11 pm)Kuyoyo I'm not at liberate to say the present ones, but for people out tomorrow, these are the Durham workings that on paper are Pulsar-workings:

I'm not sure how the allocation works now as we haven't seen the new RTCs yet, but before today Durham's allocation was:

X1A - Gemini Double Deck
X1B - Stockton Pulsar
X1C - Stockton Pulsar
X1D - Stockton Pulsar
X1E - Gemini Double Deck
X1F - Gemini Double Deck
X1G - Pulsar
X1H - Gemini Double Deck
X1I - Pulsar

Strangely, the 2 Pulsar workings at Durham both run off 1907 and 1933 respectively, leaving the Geminis out until 1-4am in some cases.
palatine3833
31 Aug 2014, 9:22 pm #647

(31 Aug 2014, 9:11 pm)Kuyoyo I'm not at liberate to say the present ones, but for people out tomorrow, these are the Durham workings that on paper are Pulsar-workings:

I'm not sure how the allocation works now as we haven't seen the new RTCs yet, but before today Durham's allocation was:

X1A - Gemini Double Deck
X1B - Stockton Pulsar
X1C - Stockton Pulsar
X1D - Stockton Pulsar
X1E - Gemini Double Deck
X1F - Gemini Double Deck
X1G - Pulsar
X1H - Gemini Double Deck
X1I - Pulsar

Strangely, the 2 Pulsar workings at Durham both run off 1907 and 1933 respectively, leaving the Geminis out until 1-4am in some cases.

Kuyoyo



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31 Aug 2014, 9:25 pm #648
(31 Aug 2014, 9:22 pm)palatine3833 I'm not sure how the allocation works now as we haven't seen the new RTCs yet, but before today Durham's allocation was:

X1A - Gemini Double Deck
X1B - Stockton Pulsar
X1C - Stockton Pulsar
X1D - Stockton Pulsar
X1E - Gemini Double Deck
X1F - Gemini Double Deck
X1G - Pulsar
X1H - Gemini Double Deck
X1I - Pulsar

Strangely, the 2 Pulsar workings at Durham both run off 1907 and 1933 respectively, leaving the Geminis out until 1-4am in some cases.

According to the RTC document, as of tomorrow, it is:

X1A - Stockton Pulsar
X1B - Stockton Pulsar
X1C - Stockton Pulsar
X1D - Gemini Double Deck
X1E - Gemini Double Deck
X1F - Pulsar
X1G - Gemini Double Deck
X1H - Pulsar
X1I - Gemini Double Deck
Kuyoyo
31 Aug 2014, 9:25 pm #648

(31 Aug 2014, 9:22 pm)palatine3833 I'm not sure how the allocation works now as we haven't seen the new RTCs yet, but before today Durham's allocation was:

X1A - Gemini Double Deck
X1B - Stockton Pulsar
X1C - Stockton Pulsar
X1D - Stockton Pulsar
X1E - Gemini Double Deck
X1F - Gemini Double Deck
X1G - Pulsar
X1H - Gemini Double Deck
X1I - Pulsar

Strangely, the 2 Pulsar workings at Durham both run off 1907 and 1933 respectively, leaving the Geminis out until 1-4am in some cases.

According to the RTC document, as of tomorrow, it is:

X1A - Stockton Pulsar
X1B - Stockton Pulsar
X1C - Stockton Pulsar
X1D - Gemini Double Deck
X1E - Gemini Double Deck
X1F - Pulsar
X1G - Gemini Double Deck
X1H - Pulsar
X1I - Gemini Double Deck

31 Aug 2014, 10:07 pm #649
(31 Aug 2014, 7:56 pm)mb134 Yeah I guess, as a customer, I would prefer consistent allocation however, in the case of the X15, recently they've never really had a consistent allocation, with coaches, E400's and B7's being allocated during the last few month.
Also if Arriva always allocate single deckers to those boards that carry less passengers, the customers that use the same bus every day will get used to this vehicle and to them at least it will be consistant (but bearing in mind this is Arriva in Northumberland with the X15, this has 1% chance of actually happening)

your right but the only time ive had a problem with the x15 and it is understandable is with bad weather e.g snow
phillip
31 Aug 2014, 10:07 pm #649

(31 Aug 2014, 7:56 pm)mb134 Yeah I guess, as a customer, I would prefer consistent allocation however, in the case of the X15, recently they've never really had a consistent allocation, with coaches, E400's and B7's being allocated during the last few month.
Also if Arriva always allocate single deckers to those boards that carry less passengers, the customers that use the same bus every day will get used to this vehicle and to them at least it will be consistant (but bearing in mind this is Arriva in Northumberland with the X15, this has 1% chance of actually happening)

your right but the only time ive had a problem with the x15 and it is understandable is with bad weather e.g snow

L469 YVK



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31 Aug 2014, 10:22 pm #650
Do you folks think that any double deck orders will be on the cards for next year?
L469 YVK
31 Aug 2014, 10:22 pm #650

Do you folks think that any double deck orders will be on the cards for next year?

tyresmoke



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31 Aug 2014, 10:58 pm #651
(31 Aug 2014, 10:22 pm)DaveyBowyer Do you folks think that any double deck orders will be on the cards for next year?

Given that we have had a fair number of double deck deliveries this year, then yes I reckon we may well see a few next year. However we are running out of places to put double deckers so it may well be a case of converting further single deck services. I would also expect some more cascades from London, potentially replacing the Lowlanders that will be at Durham depot (7436-7444) as a start...

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tyresmoke
31 Aug 2014, 10:58 pm #651

(31 Aug 2014, 10:22 pm)DaveyBowyer Do you folks think that any double deck orders will be on the cards for next year?

Given that we have had a fair number of double deck deliveries this year, then yes I reckon we may well see a few next year. However we are running out of places to put double deckers so it may well be a case of converting further single deck services. I would also expect some more cascades from London, potentially replacing the Lowlanders that will be at Durham depot (7436-7444) as a start...


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