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Arriva North East: Latest News & Discussion - November 2014

 
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Jimmi



10,969
02 Nov 2014, 12:40 pm #21
I haven't rode them yet so can't comment if i like them or not Undecided

 Look at the X7 now... it started off slow now the numbers are really good.
I don't mind the EcoCitys, much more comfortable than the Solos previously used on the 21 especially if you get one of the ex demonstrators with the big high-backed seats I sat on 4812 for 1hour and 45minutes and I felt comfortable for the full journey between Newton Aycliffe and Sunderland.

Yeah the X7 was the same when it started but had a bit more than the X21 does plus GNE are better at advertising than Arriva, only saw timetables on the EcoCitys once and that was when an Arriva Angel took some out of the box and put them in the timetable slot, I imagine they were handing the rest out in Peterlee Bus Station again.
Jimmi
02 Nov 2014, 12:40 pm #21

I haven't rode them yet so can't comment if i like them or not Undecided

 Look at the X7 now... it started off slow now the numbers are really good.
I don't mind the EcoCitys, much more comfortable than the Solos previously used on the 21 especially if you get one of the ex demonstrators with the big high-backed seats I sat on 4812 for 1hour and 45minutes and I felt comfortable for the full journey between Newton Aycliffe and Sunderland.

Yeah the X7 was the same when it started but had a bit more than the X21 does plus GNE are better at advertising than Arriva, only saw timetables on the EcoCitys once and that was when an Arriva Angel took some out of the box and put them in the timetable slot, I imagine they were handing the rest out in Peterlee Bus Station again.

Philly rf



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02 Nov 2014, 1:04 pm #22
What's happening with 7453,7454,7455,7456. Are they going anywhere
Philly rf
02 Nov 2014, 1:04 pm #22

What's happening with 7453,7454,7455,7456. Are they going anywhere

tyresmoke



5,318
02 Nov 2014, 1:08 pm #23
(02 Nov 2014, 1:04 pm)Philly rf What's happening with 7453,7454,7455,7456. Are they going anywhere

Yes they're off to Durham eventually, to help replace their T-FGN DAFs

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tyresmoke
02 Nov 2014, 1:08 pm #23

(02 Nov 2014, 1:04 pm)Philly rf What's happening with 7453,7454,7455,7456. Are they going anywhere

Yes they're off to Durham eventually, to help replace their T-FGN DAFs


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JoshP



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02 Nov 2014, 9:04 pm #24
I've been reading on other forums regarding the Sapphire 7 and soon to be Sapphire 6. Some say that the 7 is to receive E400's and Streetlite's and the 6 will use old 7 Pulsars and E400's or E400's, Pulsars AND Streetlites. That sounds confusing and does anyone have any clear information? Smile
JoshP
02 Nov 2014, 9:04 pm #24

I've been reading on other forums regarding the Sapphire 7 and soon to be Sapphire 6. Some say that the 7 is to receive E400's and Streetlite's and the 6 will use old 7 Pulsars and E400's or E400's, Pulsars AND Streetlites. That sounds confusing and does anyone have any clear information? Smile

tyresmoke



5,318
02 Nov 2014, 9:57 pm #25
(02 Nov 2014, 9:04 pm)JoshP I've been reading on other forums regarding the Sapphire 7 and soon to be Sapphire 6. Some say that the 7 is to receive E400's and Streetlite's and the 6 will use old 7 Pulsars and E400's or E400's, Pulsars AND Streetlites. That sounds confusing and does anyone have any clear information? Smile

Indeed there are believed to be 5 Enviro 400s on order for service 7, with another 2 for the 6. The E400s for the 7 will displace 5 Pulsars to service 6, the remainder of which will be made up of new Streetlites.

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tyresmoke
02 Nov 2014, 9:57 pm #25

(02 Nov 2014, 9:04 pm)JoshP I've been reading on other forums regarding the Sapphire 7 and soon to be Sapphire 6. Some say that the 7 is to receive E400's and Streetlite's and the 6 will use old 7 Pulsars and E400's or E400's, Pulsars AND Streetlites. That sounds confusing and does anyone have any clear information? Smile

Indeed there are believed to be 5 Enviro 400s on order for service 7, with another 2 for the 6. The E400s for the 7 will displace 5 Pulsars to service 6, the remainder of which will be made up of new Streetlites.


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Tom



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02 Nov 2014, 10:06 pm #26
(02 Nov 2014, 9:57 pm)tyresmoke Indeed there are believed to be 5 Enviro 400s on order for service 7, with another 2 for the 6. The E400s for the 7 will displace 5 Pulsars to service 6, the remainder of which will be made up of new Streetlites.

Eh? How confusing.

Why can't they not refurbish the existing Pulsars on the 6. then by Streetshites for something like the 17 at Stockton. 
Tom
02 Nov 2014, 10:06 pm #26

(02 Nov 2014, 9:57 pm)tyresmoke Indeed there are believed to be 5 Enviro 400s on order for service 7, with another 2 for the 6. The E400s for the 7 will displace 5 Pulsars to service 6, the remainder of which will be made up of new Streetlites.

Eh? How confusing.

Why can't they not refurbish the existing Pulsars on the 6. then by Streetshites for something like the 17 at Stockton. 

JoshP



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02 Nov 2014, 10:19 pm #27
(02 Nov 2014, 10:06 pm)Tom Eh? How confusing.

Why can't they not refurbish the existing Pulsars on the 6. then by Streetshites for something like the 17 at Stockton. 

I think it makes more sense to refurbish some of the Durham Pulsars so that the 6 is also E400 and Pulsar rather than purchase brand new Streetlites.

Also, I'm glad that Darlington is regaining Deckers afte the depot manager was so opposed to them. Darlington needs deckers on a few out of town routes at peak times 
JoshP
02 Nov 2014, 10:19 pm #27

(02 Nov 2014, 10:06 pm)Tom Eh? How confusing.

Why can't they not refurbish the existing Pulsars on the 6. then by Streetshites for something like the 17 at Stockton. 

I think it makes more sense to refurbish some of the Durham Pulsars so that the 6 is also E400 and Pulsar rather than purchase brand new Streetlites.

Also, I'm glad that Darlington is regaining Deckers afte the depot manager was so opposed to them. Darlington needs deckers on a few out of town routes at peak times 

Jimmi



10,969
02 Nov 2014, 10:23 pm #28
Also, I'm glad that Darlington is regaining Deckers afte the depot manager was so opposed to them. Darlington needs deckers on a few out of town routes at peak times
Yeah, peak time journeys out of Darlington are horrendous and so is the 3rd journey to Framwellgate Moor on a morning.
Jimmi
02 Nov 2014, 10:23 pm #28

Also, I'm glad that Darlington is regaining Deckers afte the depot manager was so opposed to them. Darlington needs deckers on a few out of town routes at peak times
Yeah, peak time journeys out of Darlington are horrendous and so is the 3rd journey to Framwellgate Moor on a morning.

JoshP



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02 Nov 2014, 10:42 pm #29
(02 Nov 2014, 10:23 pm)Jimmi Yeah, peak time journeys out of Darlington are horrendous and so is the 3rd journey to Framwellgate Moor on a morning.

The X1 needs deckers at College times and it can be said that the 1 and 5 could use some too. E400's should never have left in my opinion! On my recent journey's to Middlesbrough and back, there was barely any standing room left, so even thee X66 could push for a decker or two!
JoshP
02 Nov 2014, 10:42 pm #29

(02 Nov 2014, 10:23 pm)Jimmi Yeah, peak time journeys out of Darlington are horrendous and so is the 3rd journey to Framwellgate Moor on a morning.

The X1 needs deckers at College times and it can be said that the 1 and 5 could use some too. E400's should never have left in my opinion! On my recent journey's to Middlesbrough and back, there was barely any standing room left, so even thee X66 could push for a decker or two!

Jimmi



10,969
02 Nov 2014, 10:55 pm #30
(02 Nov 2014, 10:42 pm)JoshP The X1 needs deckers at College times and it can be said that the 1 and 5 could use some too. E400's should never have left in my opinion! On my recent journey's to Middlesbrough and back, there was barely any standing room left, so even thee X66 could push for a decker or two!

I've heard that the X1 can be bad at these times, I remember there used to be a duplicate journey on a morning that used an EcoCity, now there is a journey that starts at West Auckland on weekday mornings which follows the 6 route route between West Auckland and Tindle Crescent then the X1 route.

The 5/5A can be busy but I don't think it needs double deckers.

The X66 doesn't need double deckers I'd say, about the only time I've seen standing is if the one in front has broke down and occasionally on a hot summer morning just after 0930 when the free pass brigade can use the X66 for free.
Jimmi
02 Nov 2014, 10:55 pm #30

(02 Nov 2014, 10:42 pm)JoshP The X1 needs deckers at College times and it can be said that the 1 and 5 could use some too. E400's should never have left in my opinion! On my recent journey's to Middlesbrough and back, there was barely any standing room left, so even thee X66 could push for a decker or two!

I've heard that the X1 can be bad at these times, I remember there used to be a duplicate journey on a morning that used an EcoCity, now there is a journey that starts at West Auckland on weekday mornings which follows the 6 route route between West Auckland and Tindle Crescent then the X1 route.

The 5/5A can be busy but I don't think it needs double deckers.

The X66 doesn't need double deckers I'd say, about the only time I've seen standing is if the one in front has broke down and occasionally on a hot summer morning just after 0930 when the free pass brigade can use the X66 for free.

02 Nov 2014, 11:02 pm #31
Sorry if I sound like I know nothing, but I just can't be bothered to look back in the thread as it's 11:00 at night!

I'm sure I saw somewhere that Service 64 was to receive some new buses coming from down south somewhere, can anyone tell me their fleet numbers (I think they would be changed if they are moving fleets) and the vehicle type?
R852 PRG
02 Nov 2014, 11:02 pm #31

Sorry if I sound like I know nothing, but I just can't be bothered to look back in the thread as it's 11:00 at night!

I'm sure I saw somewhere that Service 64 was to receive some new buses coming from down south somewhere, can anyone tell me their fleet numbers (I think they would be changed if they are moving fleets) and the vehicle type?

tyresmoke



5,318
02 Nov 2014, 11:04 pm #32
(02 Nov 2014, 11:02 pm)Marcus Sorry if I sound like I know nothing, but I just can't be bothered to look back in the thread as it's 11:00 at night!

I'm sure I saw somewhere that Service 64 was to receive some new buses coming from down south somewhere, can anyone tell me their fleet numbers (I think they would be changed if they are moving fleets) and the vehicle type?

We are getting 9 Enviro 200s from Southern Counties which are currently being refurbished at Thorntons in Ashington. Unsure on their NE fleet numbers yet but they were 4071-9 with ASC

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tyresmoke
02 Nov 2014, 11:04 pm #32

(02 Nov 2014, 11:02 pm)Marcus Sorry if I sound like I know nothing, but I just can't be bothered to look back in the thread as it's 11:00 at night!

I'm sure I saw somewhere that Service 64 was to receive some new buses coming from down south somewhere, can anyone tell me their fleet numbers (I think they would be changed if they are moving fleets) and the vehicle type?

We are getting 9 Enviro 200s from Southern Counties which are currently being refurbished at Thorntons in Ashington. Unsure on their NE fleet numbers yet but they were 4071-9 with ASC


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02 Nov 2014, 11:07 pm #33
(02 Nov 2014, 11:04 pm)tyresmoke We are getting 9 Enviro 200s from Southern Counties which are currently being refurbished at Thorntons in Ashington. Unsure on their NE fleet numbers yet but they were 4071-9 with ASC

Cheers Scott,

I thought the PVR of the 64 was 8, though? Or is the 9th one spare?
R852 PRG
02 Nov 2014, 11:07 pm #33

(02 Nov 2014, 11:04 pm)tyresmoke We are getting 9 Enviro 200s from Southern Counties which are currently being refurbished at Thorntons in Ashington. Unsure on their NE fleet numbers yet but they were 4071-9 with ASC

Cheers Scott,

I thought the PVR of the 64 was 8, though? Or is the 9th one spare?

Jimmi



10,969
02 Nov 2014, 11:15 pm #34
 I thought the PVR of the 64 was 8, though? Or is the 9th one spare?
I think the 64 has a PVR of 8, so the spare will likely to see use on other services.

Belmont currently has 10 Darts for the 64's PVR of 8 but sometimes pops up on other routes such as the 6, 49/49A and 56/57/57A/86.
Edited 02 Nov 2014, 11:18 pm by Jimmi.
Jimmi
02 Nov 2014, 11:15 pm #34

 I thought the PVR of the 64 was 8, though? Or is the 9th one spare?
I think the 64 has a PVR of 8, so the spare will likely to see use on other services.

Belmont currently has 10 Darts for the 64's PVR of 8 but sometimes pops up on other routes such as the 6, 49/49A and 56/57/57A/86.

RobinHood



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03 Nov 2014, 7:40 am #35
(02 Nov 2014, 10:06 pm)Tom Eh? How confusing.

Why can't they not refurbish the existing Pulsars on the 6. then by Streetshites for something like the 17 at Stockton. 

It's probably cheaper to fit sockets, WiFi, next stop announcements etc to brand new, instead of retrospective fitment.

If that's the case, it's cheaper overall to buy brand new and sapphire spec in the factory, rather than buy new standard and refurbish existing stock.
RobinHood
03 Nov 2014, 7:40 am #35

(02 Nov 2014, 10:06 pm)Tom Eh? How confusing.

Why can't they not refurbish the existing Pulsars on the 6. then by Streetshites for something like the 17 at Stockton. 

It's probably cheaper to fit sockets, WiFi, next stop announcements etc to brand new, instead of retrospective fitment.

If that's the case, it's cheaper overall to buy brand new and sapphire spec in the factory, rather than buy new standard and refurbish existing stock.

forster



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03 Nov 2014, 8:52 am #36
I seem to recall that some time back, someone posted that due to non-compliance with DDA regs, the V & W reg. MPD's would be withdrawn by the end of this year- is that still so?  do their internal spaces differ greatly from later models?
 I travelled on MPD 211(V211 PCX) the ex. West Yorks. bus at Whitby/Redcar, during September, and was surprised to find that it was not fitted with a wheelchair ramp-I thought that all the MPD's had them.
Unusually, the same bus had chrome front wheel trims fitted (not the full covers,but partial ones as used to be fitted to Leyland Roadrunner trucks) This is the second Arriva West Yorks.bus I  have seen with them.
forster
03 Nov 2014, 8:52 am #36

I seem to recall that some time back, someone posted that due to non-compliance with DDA regs, the V & W reg. MPD's would be withdrawn by the end of this year- is that still so?  do their internal spaces differ greatly from later models?
 I travelled on MPD 211(V211 PCX) the ex. West Yorks. bus at Whitby/Redcar, during September, and was surprised to find that it was not fitted with a wheelchair ramp-I thought that all the MPD's had them.
Unusually, the same bus had chrome front wheel trims fitted (not the full covers,but partial ones as used to be fitted to Leyland Roadrunner trucks) This is the second Arriva West Yorks.bus I  have seen with them.

Jimmi



10,969
03 Nov 2014, 9:53 am #37
Just seen 7433 heading south bound down the A1(M) near Bowburn.
Jimmi
03 Nov 2014, 9:53 am #37

Just seen 7433 heading south bound down the A1(M) near Bowburn.

03 Nov 2014, 11:56 am #38
(03 Nov 2014, 9:53 am)Jimmi Just se tiger en 7433 heading south bound down the A1(M) near Bowburn.




Its off To yorkshire tiger
David McGloin
03 Nov 2014, 11:56 am #38

(03 Nov 2014, 9:53 am)Jimmi Just se tiger en 7433 heading south bound down the A1(M) near Bowburn.




Its off To yorkshire tiger

Jimmi



10,969
03 Nov 2014, 2:30 pm #39
SERVICE 7 - Due to a serious RTI on the A167 this road has been closed between Chiltern and Ferryhill. Services are therefore suffering delays and have been diverted via Ferryhill Station. We expect this to be for approx. 2 hours.

Chiltern - Learn to spell Arriva.
Edited 03 Nov 2014, 2:36 pm by Jimmi.
Jimmi
03 Nov 2014, 2:30 pm #39

SERVICE 7 - Due to a serious RTI on the A167 this road has been closed between Chiltern and Ferryhill. Services are therefore suffering delays and have been diverted via Ferryhill Station. We expect this to be for approx. 2 hours.

Chiltern - Learn to spell Arriva.

tyresmoke



5,318
03 Nov 2014, 2:45 pm #40
(03 Nov 2014, 2:30 pm)Jimmi SERVICE 7 - Due to a serious RTI on the A167 this road has been closed between Chiltern and Ferryhill. Services are therefore suffering delays and have been diverted via Ferryhill Station. We expect this to be for approx. 2 hours.

Chiltern - Learn to spell Arriva.

Can tell it's from Luton! lol

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tyresmoke
03 Nov 2014, 2:45 pm #40

(03 Nov 2014, 2:30 pm)Jimmi SERVICE 7 - Due to a serious RTI on the A167 this road has been closed between Chiltern and Ferryhill. Services are therefore suffering delays and have been diverted via Ferryhill Station. We expect this to be for approx. 2 hours.

Chiltern - Learn to spell Arriva.

Can tell it's from Luton! lol


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