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03 May 2014, 10:55 am #21
(03 May 2014, 10:40 am)Michael Maybe.. Tongue

Ye, which is good, what was the dealine for the non DDA buses?

I think by the end of 2016. There was talk Stockton may have been getting some of the Ex Carlisle Darts which I wouldn't mind, as I like them but they are all going down South to Chichester.

Stockton also have to find replacements for our last 4 Volvo Olympians 16833/834/836 & 839.
Richard Smiles
03 May 2014, 10:55 am #21

(03 May 2014, 10:40 am)Michael Maybe.. Tongue

Ye, which is good, what was the dealine for the non DDA buses?

I think by the end of 2016. There was talk Stockton may have been getting some of the Ex Carlisle Darts which I wouldn't mind, as I like them but they are all going down South to Chichester.

Stockton also have to find replacements for our last 4 Volvo Olympians 16833/834/836 & 839.

03 May 2014, 11:59 am #22
(03 May 2014, 11:38 am)AIG20 I've heard that the Tridents at Stockton are non DDA buses (since they are "S" registered vehicles). So is it likely that Stockton may get Ex-London Tridents in the future, as well as Slatyford for the Sightseeing services? The Sightseeing Leyland Olympian are approaching their 25th Birthday, so I guess they may need replacing soon.

Glancing at the current Fleet Cards (and excluding Reserve & Awaiting Disposal Vehicles). The non-DDA Vehicle stats are currently as follows:

Walkergate Depot = 100% DDA Compliant Fleet.
City Sight seeing = 5 Vehicles (The Open Top Double Deckers).
Slatyford = 12 Vehicles all 22xxx MANs.
South Shields = 100% DDA Compliant Fleet.
Sunderland = 15 Vehicles all 22xxx MANs (wiped out when GAS Buses arrive).
Hartlepool = 100% DDA Compliant Fleet
Stockton = 47!! Non DDA Compliant vehicles comprising of 4 Volvo Olympian Double Deckers, 6 ALX 400 bodied Trident Double Deckers & 37 22xxx MANs of which 25 should be wiped out with arrival of the 25 E300s. That still leaves 22 vehicles to be replaced. Still a lot compared to other Depot's in the North East Group of Fleets.
Edited 03 May 2014, 12:00 pm by Richard Smiles.
Richard Smiles
03 May 2014, 11:59 am #22

(03 May 2014, 11:38 am)AIG20 I've heard that the Tridents at Stockton are non DDA buses (since they are "S" registered vehicles). So is it likely that Stockton may get Ex-London Tridents in the future, as well as Slatyford for the Sightseeing services? The Sightseeing Leyland Olympian are approaching their 25th Birthday, so I guess they may need replacing soon.

Glancing at the current Fleet Cards (and excluding Reserve & Awaiting Disposal Vehicles). The non-DDA Vehicle stats are currently as follows:

Walkergate Depot = 100% DDA Compliant Fleet.
City Sight seeing = 5 Vehicles (The Open Top Double Deckers).
Slatyford = 12 Vehicles all 22xxx MANs.
South Shields = 100% DDA Compliant Fleet.
Sunderland = 15 Vehicles all 22xxx MANs (wiped out when GAS Buses arrive).
Hartlepool = 100% DDA Compliant Fleet
Stockton = 47!! Non DDA Compliant vehicles comprising of 4 Volvo Olympian Double Deckers, 6 ALX 400 bodied Trident Double Deckers & 37 22xxx MANs of which 25 should be wiped out with arrival of the 25 E300s. That still leaves 22 vehicles to be replaced. Still a lot compared to other Depot's in the North East Group of Fleets.

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03 May 2014, 12:16 pm #23
To be fair all they have to do is make the Macmillan contracts fully termly passes and off bus revenue - and thereby can be unregistered services, which have no need to operate with DDA compliant vehicles.

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tyresmoke
03 May 2014, 12:16 pm #23

To be fair all they have to do is make the Macmillan contracts fully termly passes and off bus revenue - and thereby can be unregistered services, which have no need to operate with DDA compliant vehicles.


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03 May 2014, 3:14 pm #24
33101 seen on the 4 today.
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03 May 2014, 3:14 pm #24

33101 seen on the 4 today.

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03 May 2014, 3:29 pm #25
(03 May 2014, 3:27 pm)James Moss Mccrossan why say your not pleased with me say 33101 is in Hartlepool cause it is here so what's the problem

I think he meant that he's not pleased that 33101 is at Hartlepool because he's from South Shields and is a fan of the vehicle.
Dan
03 May 2014, 3:29 pm #25

(03 May 2014, 3:27 pm)James Moss Mccrossan why say your not pleased with me say 33101 is in Hartlepool cause it is here so what's the problem

I think he meant that he's not pleased that 33101 is at Hartlepool because he's from South Shields and is a fan of the vehicle.

03 May 2014, 3:39 pm #26
Something needs to happen at Hartlepool now as they are "On The Edge".

By this I mean, they have very little to play with Spare Bus Wise

5 Groups of services: 1, 3, 4, 6, 7, 2 Engineering Spares, 2 Spares & only 1 Reserve.

So if! 5 buses break down, you're stuffed as there are always going to be a couple off the road for either servicing, repaint or PSV Test.

The fact that 33101 has had to be sent to Hartlepool & pressed into service proves my point.
Edited 03 May 2014, 3:46 pm by Richard Smiles.
Richard Smiles
03 May 2014, 3:39 pm #26

Something needs to happen at Hartlepool now as they are "On The Edge".

By this I mean, they have very little to play with Spare Bus Wise

5 Groups of services: 1, 3, 4, 6, 7, 2 Engineering Spares, 2 Spares & only 1 Reserve.

So if! 5 buses break down, you're stuffed as there are always going to be a couple off the road for either servicing, repaint or PSV Test.

The fact that 33101 has had to be sent to Hartlepool & pressed into service proves my point.

03 May 2014, 4:03 pm #27
(03 May 2014, 3:57 pm)AIG20 Can a full sized single decker work on Hartlepool's services, or does this depot's services involve too many tight corners, and so on?

Hartlepool can indeed use full sized Single Deckers & even Double Deckers. For many years Hartlepool operated Bristol RE's, Leyland Nationals, Dennis Falcon's, Leyland Leopards, Leyland Lynxes, Volvo B10Ms etc.
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03 May 2014, 4:03 pm #27

(03 May 2014, 3:57 pm)AIG20 Can a full sized single decker work on Hartlepool's services, or does this depot's services involve too many tight corners, and so on?

Hartlepool can indeed use full sized Single Deckers & even Double Deckers. For many years Hartlepool operated Bristol RE's, Leyland Nationals, Dennis Falcon's, Leyland Leopards, Leyland Lynxes, Volvo B10Ms etc.

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03 May 2014, 5:17 pm #28
(03 May 2014, 3:57 pm)AIG20 Can a full sized single decker work on Hartlepool's services, or does this depot's services involve too many tight corners, and so on?

While they can, it's well known by the drivers at Stockton from the period when a number of Hartlepool drivers were transferred across after the contract work there ended, the drivers aren't particularly fond of driving full size vehicles. It's why, despite them having the 1 and 7 in the screen list, no Stockton vehicle has ever worked either route and it's normally a spare Hartlepool vehicle that is sent to Middlesbrough in the event of one breaking down there.
Kuyoyo
03 May 2014, 5:17 pm #28

(03 May 2014, 3:57 pm)AIG20 Can a full sized single decker work on Hartlepool's services, or does this depot's services involve too many tight corners, and so on?

While they can, it's well known by the drivers at Stockton from the period when a number of Hartlepool drivers were transferred across after the contract work there ended, the drivers aren't particularly fond of driving full size vehicles. It's why, despite them having the 1 and 7 in the screen list, no Stockton vehicle has ever worked either route and it's normally a spare Hartlepool vehicle that is sent to Middlesbrough in the event of one breaking down there.

03 May 2014, 9:18 pm #29
Sorry james for what I said are we still friends. Regards Robin ps have you seen the mans at south shields are having there rear adverts removed.
Robinwtait.19
03 May 2014, 9:18 pm #29

Sorry james for what I said are we still friends. Regards Robin ps have you seen the mans at south shields are having there rear adverts removed.

Michael



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04 May 2014, 11:35 am #30
(03 May 2014, 11:59 am)Richard Smiles Glancing at the current Fleet Cards (and excluding Reserve & Awaiting Disposal Vehicles). The non-DDA Vehicle stats are currently as follows:

Walkergate Depot = 100% DDA Compliant Fleet.
City Sight seeing = 5 Vehicles (The Open Top Double Deckers).
Slatyford = 12 Vehicles all 22xxx MANs.
South Shields = 100% DDA Compliant Fleet.
Sunderland = 15 Vehicles all 22xxx MANs (wiped out when GAS Buses arrive).
Hartlepool = 100% DDA Compliant Fleet
Stockton = 47!! Non DDA Compliant vehicles comprising of 4 Volvo Olympian Double Deckers, 6 ALX 400 bodied Trident Double Deckers & 37 22xxx MANs of which 25 should be wiped out with arrival of the 25 E300s. That still leaves 22 vehicles to be replaced. Still a lot compared to other Depot's in the North East Group of Fleets.

What else will Sunderland loose as there's 23 gas buses, some of 22072 etc?
Edited 04 May 2014, 11:36 am by Michael.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
04 May 2014, 11:35 am #30

(03 May 2014, 11:59 am)Richard Smiles Glancing at the current Fleet Cards (and excluding Reserve & Awaiting Disposal Vehicles). The non-DDA Vehicle stats are currently as follows:

Walkergate Depot = 100% DDA Compliant Fleet.
City Sight seeing = 5 Vehicles (The Open Top Double Deckers).
Slatyford = 12 Vehicles all 22xxx MANs.
South Shields = 100% DDA Compliant Fleet.
Sunderland = 15 Vehicles all 22xxx MANs (wiped out when GAS Buses arrive).
Hartlepool = 100% DDA Compliant Fleet
Stockton = 47!! Non DDA Compliant vehicles comprising of 4 Volvo Olympian Double Deckers, 6 ALX 400 bodied Trident Double Deckers & 37 22xxx MANs of which 25 should be wiped out with arrival of the 25 E300s. That still leaves 22 vehicles to be replaced. Still a lot compared to other Depot's in the North East Group of Fleets.

What else will Sunderland loose as there's 23 gas buses, some of 22072 etc?


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Michael



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04 May 2014, 11:51 am #31
(04 May 2014, 11:40 am)AIG20 I think 22072 - 22082 are all being displaced to Stockton, as apparently there may be non DDA buses left when the 23 Gas Buses enter service. I do not know what will happen to 22021 though. That will either go to Slatyford or Stockton or will stay in Sunderland.

Straight swap gas buses for the non DDA's, as there's only 15 to replace, was just thinking about what the other 8 gas buses will replace

Out of the MAN's and the 4 darts they're is:

22021,22072,22073,22074,22075,22076,22077,22078,22079,22080,22081,22082,35155,35156,35157,35158

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
04 May 2014, 11:51 am #31

(04 May 2014, 11:40 am)AIG20 I think 22072 - 22082 are all being displaced to Stockton, as apparently there may be non DDA buses left when the 23 Gas Buses enter service. I do not know what will happen to 22021 though. That will either go to Slatyford or Stockton or will stay in Sunderland.

Straight swap gas buses for the non DDA's, as there's only 15 to replace, was just thinking about what the other 8 gas buses will replace

Out of the MAN's and the 4 darts they're is:

22021,22072,22073,22074,22075,22076,22077,22078,22079,22080,22081,22082,35155,35156,35157,35158


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

04 May 2014, 12:03 pm #32
(04 May 2014, 11:35 am)Michael What else will Sunderland loose as there's 23 gas buses, some of 22072 etc?

Michael, there is currently an allocation of 27 MANs at Sunderland
15 Non-DDA, 12-DDA.

The 15 Non-DDA compliant vehicles will clearly be wiped out with the arrival of the GAS Buses, together with a further 8 out of 12 of the DDA Compliant vehicles (220xx) tallying 23, so at least 4 of the 220xx will have to be retained to make up the current balance of 27.

I do wonder however whether 6 of the 220xx batch will be retained at Sunderland in order to release & replace a couple of 351xx Darts to Hartlepool to replace the two lost reserves 33488 & 33492. Clearly something is needed otherwise why send 33101? in the first place.

As for the rest, they will probably end up at Stockton, so that when the bids go in for Next year, Stagecoach NE can say we have 12 non-DDA vehicles at Newcastle (Slatyford), that need replacing.

Just to add Michael, if you have a look at the Busways (Inside) Fleet Card PDF. The non-DDA compliant vehicles are highlighted in a light yellow background.
Edited 04 May 2014, 12:06 pm by Richard Smiles.
Richard Smiles
04 May 2014, 12:03 pm #32

(04 May 2014, 11:35 am)Michael What else will Sunderland loose as there's 23 gas buses, some of 22072 etc?

Michael, there is currently an allocation of 27 MANs at Sunderland
15 Non-DDA, 12-DDA.

The 15 Non-DDA compliant vehicles will clearly be wiped out with the arrival of the GAS Buses, together with a further 8 out of 12 of the DDA Compliant vehicles (220xx) tallying 23, so at least 4 of the 220xx will have to be retained to make up the current balance of 27.

I do wonder however whether 6 of the 220xx batch will be retained at Sunderland in order to release & replace a couple of 351xx Darts to Hartlepool to replace the two lost reserves 33488 & 33492. Clearly something is needed otherwise why send 33101? in the first place.

As for the rest, they will probably end up at Stockton, so that when the bids go in for Next year, Stagecoach NE can say we have 12 non-DDA vehicles at Newcastle (Slatyford), that need replacing.

Just to add Michael, if you have a look at the Busways (Inside) Fleet Card PDF. The non-DDA compliant vehicles are highlighted in a light yellow background.

Michael



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04 May 2014, 12:07 pm #33
(04 May 2014, 12:03 pm)Richard Smiles Michael, there is currently an allocation of 27 MANs at Sunderland
15 Non-DDA, 12-DDA.

The 15 Non-DDA compliant vehicles will clearly be wiped out with the arrival of the GAS Buses, together with a further 8 out of 12 of the DDA Compliant vehicles (220xx) tallying 23, so at least 4 of the 220xx will have to be retained to make up the current balance of 27.

I do wonder however whether 6 of the 220xx batch will be retained at Sunderland in order to release & replace a couple of 351xx Darts to Hartlepool to replace the two lost reserves 33488 & 33492. Clearly something is needed otherwise why send 33101? in the first place.

As for the rest, they will probably end up at Stockton, so that when the bids go in for Next year, Stagecoach NE can say we have 12 non-DDA vehicles at Newcastle (Slatyford), that need replacing.

Just to add Michael, if you have a look at the Busways (Inside) Fleet Card PDF. The non-DDA compliant vehicles are highlighted in a light yellow background.

Thanks, wasn't sure what else would go, was hoping for the darts to go


Ye i was going by that,howeever i was only looking at the Sunderland one for the Non DDA, so all the ones i mentioned was the DDA ones
Edited 04 May 2014, 12:08 pm by Michael.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
04 May 2014, 12:07 pm #33

(04 May 2014, 12:03 pm)Richard Smiles Michael, there is currently an allocation of 27 MANs at Sunderland
15 Non-DDA, 12-DDA.

The 15 Non-DDA compliant vehicles will clearly be wiped out with the arrival of the GAS Buses, together with a further 8 out of 12 of the DDA Compliant vehicles (220xx) tallying 23, so at least 4 of the 220xx will have to be retained to make up the current balance of 27.

I do wonder however whether 6 of the 220xx batch will be retained at Sunderland in order to release & replace a couple of 351xx Darts to Hartlepool to replace the two lost reserves 33488 & 33492. Clearly something is needed otherwise why send 33101? in the first place.

As for the rest, they will probably end up at Stockton, so that when the bids go in for Next year, Stagecoach NE can say we have 12 non-DDA vehicles at Newcastle (Slatyford), that need replacing.

Just to add Michael, if you have a look at the Busways (Inside) Fleet Card PDF. The non-DDA compliant vehicles are highlighted in a light yellow background.

Thanks, wasn't sure what else would go, was hoping for the darts to go


Ye i was going by that,howeever i was only looking at the Sunderland one for the Non DDA, so all the ones i mentioned was the DDA ones


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

04 May 2014, 12:14 pm #34
(04 May 2014, 12:07 pm)Michael Thanks, wasn't sure what else would go, was hoping for the darts to go


Ye i was going by that,howeever i was only looking at the Sunderland one for the Non DDA, so all the ones i mentioned was the DDA ones

The 351xx Darts I think (without looking) are 06 plates (8 Years Old),
33101 is still running & is 16+ Years old, so I think the Darts will be around for a while yet. Though as mentioned I would not be surprised if a couple were transferred to Hartlepool.
Edited 04 May 2014, 12:15 pm by Richard Smiles.
Richard Smiles
04 May 2014, 12:14 pm #34

(04 May 2014, 12:07 pm)Michael Thanks, wasn't sure what else would go, was hoping for the darts to go


Ye i was going by that,howeever i was only looking at the Sunderland one for the Non DDA, so all the ones i mentioned was the DDA ones

The 351xx Darts I think (without looking) are 06 plates (8 Years Old),
33101 is still running & is 16+ Years old, so I think the Darts will be around for a while yet. Though as mentioned I would not be surprised if a couple were transferred to Hartlepool.

Michael



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04 May 2014, 12:17 pm #35
(04 May 2014, 12:14 pm)Richard Smiles The 351xx Darts I think (without looking) are 06 plates (8 Years Old),
33101 is still running & is 16+ Years old, so I think the Darts will be around for a while yet.

Thanks, =)

Should be good by end of next year when all the depots should be DDA also least most of the buses in the SC fleet will be Enviro and Gas by then =D
Edited 04 May 2014, 12:17 pm by Michael.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
04 May 2014, 12:17 pm #35

(04 May 2014, 12:14 pm)Richard Smiles The 351xx Darts I think (without looking) are 06 plates (8 Years Old),
33101 is still running & is 16+ Years old, so I think the Darts will be around for a while yet.

Thanks, =)

Should be good by end of next year when all the depots should be DDA also least most of the buses in the SC fleet will be Enviro and Gas by then =D


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

04 May 2014, 4:31 pm #36
As has been reported elsewhere on the Forum today, specifically Stagecoach (Fleet News) Stagecoach on Teesside's (Stockton Depot's) 25 x Brand New ADL E300s 27157 - 27181, are scheduled to be delivered to Stockton Depot during September & October of this year.

However, I have seen & heard conflicting reports with regards to a Specific issue with these vehicles, so felt the need to investigate further & got a response this afternoon.

With regards to the 86 x E300s on order for the Stagecoach UK Bus Fleet this year, Numbers 27101-27186, but in relation to my specific question regarding the vehicles for Teesside (27157-27181), I have had it confirmed, that these vehicles will be powered by Euro 5 Engines & NOT Euro 6 units, though Stagecoach do have a number of vehicles On Order that are Euro 6 specified.

Therefore, the vehicles heading for Teesside 27157 - 27181, will be of exactly the same specification as those used at South Shields on the E services,( i.e exactly the same as 27723 - 22740). I hope that clarifies the situation.

The limited number of Euro 6 units/vehicles being bought, is due down to cost, as I gather at this present time, the difference in price between a Euro 5 specified vehicle & that of a Euro 6 specified vehicle is an additional cost, of around £20,000.
Edited 05 May 2014, 6:43 am by Richard Smiles.
Richard Smiles
04 May 2014, 4:31 pm #36

As has been reported elsewhere on the Forum today, specifically Stagecoach (Fleet News) Stagecoach on Teesside's (Stockton Depot's) 25 x Brand New ADL E300s 27157 - 27181, are scheduled to be delivered to Stockton Depot during September & October of this year.

However, I have seen & heard conflicting reports with regards to a Specific issue with these vehicles, so felt the need to investigate further & got a response this afternoon.

With regards to the 86 x E300s on order for the Stagecoach UK Bus Fleet this year, Numbers 27101-27186, but in relation to my specific question regarding the vehicles for Teesside (27157-27181), I have had it confirmed, that these vehicles will be powered by Euro 5 Engines & NOT Euro 6 units, though Stagecoach do have a number of vehicles On Order that are Euro 6 specified.

Therefore, the vehicles heading for Teesside 27157 - 27181, will be of exactly the same specification as those used at South Shields on the E services,( i.e exactly the same as 27723 - 22740). I hope that clarifies the situation.

The limited number of Euro 6 units/vehicles being bought, is due down to cost, as I gather at this present time, the difference in price between a Euro 5 specified vehicle & that of a Euro 6 specified vehicle is an additional cost, of around £20,000.

JoshP



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05 May 2014, 6:04 pm #37
I can't seem to find the correct category to speak about this even in they bygone area but here it goes...

Is anyone able to tell me what the Stagecoach routes in Darlington were prior to their demise in 2007? I remember the 25a/b and that is all...
JoshP
05 May 2014, 6:04 pm #37

I can't seem to find the correct category to speak about this even in they bygone area but here it goes...

Is anyone able to tell me what the Stagecoach routes in Darlington were prior to their demise in 2007? I remember the 25a/b and that is all...

MurdnunoC



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06 May 2014, 12:24 pm #38
(05 May 2014, 6:04 pm)JoshP I can't seem to find the correct category to speak about this even in they bygone area but here it goes...

Is anyone able to tell me what the Stagecoach routes in Darlington were prior to their demise in 2007? I remember the 25a/b and that is all...

Below are the routes listed in the Bygone era although I suspect that the list is non-comprehensive. (BTW - The links to the timetables are down for whatever reason Huh)

17: Darlington - Memorial Hospital
20: Firth Moor - Market - Whinbush
24: Firth Moor - Market - Branksome
25: Red Hall - Market - Branksome
26,26A: Red Hall - Market - Springfield
26: Morton Park - Town Centre - Harrowgate Hill
74: Neasham - Town Centre - Teesside International Airport
X90: Newcastle - Metrocentre - Darlington - Richmond

As I'm not from the Darlington area, I'm not really familiar with any of the routes above. However, I do remember service X90 which I occasionally saw in Newcastle throughout the 90's. It was usually allocated a coach whenever I saw it.
MurdnunoC
06 May 2014, 12:24 pm #38

(05 May 2014, 6:04 pm)JoshP I can't seem to find the correct category to speak about this even in they bygone area but here it goes...

Is anyone able to tell me what the Stagecoach routes in Darlington were prior to their demise in 2007? I remember the 25a/b and that is all...

Below are the routes listed in the Bygone era although I suspect that the list is non-comprehensive. (BTW - The links to the timetables are down for whatever reason Huh)

17: Darlington - Memorial Hospital
20: Firth Moor - Market - Whinbush
24: Firth Moor - Market - Branksome
25: Red Hall - Market - Branksome
26,26A: Red Hall - Market - Springfield
26: Morton Park - Town Centre - Harrowgate Hill
74: Neasham - Town Centre - Teesside International Airport
X90: Newcastle - Metrocentre - Darlington - Richmond

As I'm not from the Darlington area, I'm not really familiar with any of the routes above. However, I do remember service X90 which I occasionally saw in Newcastle throughout the 90's. It was usually allocated a coach whenever I saw it.

Michael



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06 May 2014, 5:34 pm #39
(28 Apr 2014, 4:47 pm)Michael Vosa today:

PB0002404/16 - BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD T/A STAGECOACH NORTHEAST, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Pennywell and Grangetown given service number 10/11 effective from 22-Jun-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002404/17 - BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD T/A STAGECOACH NORTHEAST, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Red House Estate and Hastings Hill given service number 16 effective from 22-Jun-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002404/19 - BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD T/A STAGECOACH NORTHEAST, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Fawcett Street Sunderland and Pennywell given service number 20 effective from 22-Jun-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002404/20 - BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD T/A STAGECOACH NORTHEAST, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Town End farm, Hylton Castle and Doxford Park given service number 13/3 effective from 22-Jun-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002404/121 - BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD T/A STAGECOACH NORTHEAST, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Doxford Park and Sunderland City Centre given service number 5/5A effective from 22-Jun-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.

Anyone got any info for these new changes, SC haven't got anything on their site yet and i have emailed SC Sun about them but haven't got anything back

(these were on VOSA on 28.4.14)

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
06 May 2014, 5:34 pm #39

(28 Apr 2014, 4:47 pm)Michael Vosa today:

PB0002404/16 - BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD T/A STAGECOACH NORTHEAST, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Pennywell and Grangetown given service number 10/11 effective from 22-Jun-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002404/17 - BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD T/A STAGECOACH NORTHEAST, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Red House Estate and Hastings Hill given service number 16 effective from 22-Jun-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002404/19 - BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD T/A STAGECOACH NORTHEAST, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Fawcett Street Sunderland and Pennywell given service number 20 effective from 22-Jun-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002404/20 - BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD T/A STAGECOACH NORTHEAST, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Town End farm, Hylton Castle and Doxford Park given service number 13/3 effective from 22-Jun-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002404/121 - BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD T/A STAGECOACH NORTHEAST, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Doxford Park and Sunderland City Centre given service number 5/5A effective from 22-Jun-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.

Anyone got any info for these new changes, SC haven't got anything on their site yet and i have emailed SC Sun about them but haven't got anything back

(these were on VOSA on 28.4.14)


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

07 May 2014, 2:23 pm #40
(01 May 2014, 8:26 pm)Dan With thanks to Richard for passing on the information - Period 13 movements are as follows:

Busways:
  • 19199 (NK57 DWD) - Walkergate to Manchester
  • 21153 (R253 KRG) - Sold for Scrap
  • 22172 (T172 MVM) - Reserve to Disposal
  • 22214 (T214 TND) - In service at Sunderland
  • 22215 (T215 TND) - In service at Sunderland
  • 22485 (T485 BNL) - Sold for Scrap
  • 22488 (T488 BNL) - Sunderland to Stockton
  • 22489 (T489 BNL) - Sunderland to Stockton
  • 22727 (T727 OEF) - Reserve to Disposal
  • 22728 (T728 OEF) - Reserve to Disposal
  • 22729 (T729 OEF) - Reserve to Disposal
  • 22730 (T730 OEF) - Reserve to Disposal
  • 22736 (T736 OEF) - Reserve to Disposal
  • 33492 (R472 MVN) - Reserve to Disposal

Transit:
  • 22201 (T201 TND) - Stockton to Disposal
  • 22208 (T208 TND) - Stockton to Reserve
  • 22488 (T488 BNL) - Sunderland to Stockton
  • 22489 (T489 BNL) - Sunderland to Stockton
  • 22495 (T495 BNL) - Reserve to Disposal
  • 33491 (R471 MVN) - Reserve to Disposal

NEB's fleet lists have been updated accordingly (thankfully it was only a 15-minute job). Should there be any movements which haven't been recorded on the allocation cards which Richard identifies in his fleet lists, I will update the fleet lists tomorrow night.

Just a minor update to the above, 22485 (T485BNL) was broken up for spares, with the remains being sold to Alpha Recovery, Weetslade for scrap.
Richard Smiles
07 May 2014, 2:23 pm #40

(01 May 2014, 8:26 pm)Dan With thanks to Richard for passing on the information - Period 13 movements are as follows:

Busways:
  • 19199 (NK57 DWD) - Walkergate to Manchester
  • 21153 (R253 KRG) - Sold for Scrap
  • 22172 (T172 MVM) - Reserve to Disposal
  • 22214 (T214 TND) - In service at Sunderland
  • 22215 (T215 TND) - In service at Sunderland
  • 22485 (T485 BNL) - Sold for Scrap
  • 22488 (T488 BNL) - Sunderland to Stockton
  • 22489 (T489 BNL) - Sunderland to Stockton
  • 22727 (T727 OEF) - Reserve to Disposal
  • 22728 (T728 OEF) - Reserve to Disposal
  • 22729 (T729 OEF) - Reserve to Disposal
  • 22730 (T730 OEF) - Reserve to Disposal
  • 22736 (T736 OEF) - Reserve to Disposal
  • 33492 (R472 MVN) - Reserve to Disposal

Transit:
  • 22201 (T201 TND) - Stockton to Disposal
  • 22208 (T208 TND) - Stockton to Reserve
  • 22488 (T488 BNL) - Sunderland to Stockton
  • 22489 (T489 BNL) - Sunderland to Stockton
  • 22495 (T495 BNL) - Reserve to Disposal
  • 33491 (R471 MVN) - Reserve to Disposal

NEB's fleet lists have been updated accordingly (thankfully it was only a 15-minute job). Should there be any movements which haven't been recorded on the allocation cards which Richard identifies in his fleet lists, I will update the fleet lists tomorrow night.

Just a minor update to the above, 22485 (T485BNL) was broken up for spares, with the remains being sold to Alpha Recovery, Weetslade for scrap.

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