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tyresmoke



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03 Jun 2014, 4:24 pm #21
(03 Jun 2014, 3:47 pm)Richard Smiles I doubt they have been removed from service, they are probably just wanting to get a few of the New ones out on the road, rather than have them sat in the depot.

EDIT: It is likely that they will wait until sufficient are available until service 3 is fully operated by GAS buses, rather than just a couple.

Of the 10 recently delivered, 6 have been registered, but the last four (28024 - 28027) still haven't. So another three need to be available to fully convert the service.

It's also possible that they've got some issues on the older ones that require looking at and whilst Scania are there it's a good chance to get them in especially now they've got all of the new ones as extra buses to play with.

There's a good chance the new ones will go out during the course of the day too, rather than just being allocated from the start of the day. I remember taking 22015 on its maiden voyage on Teesside as they gave me it as a changeover (at the depot gates on a 13).

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tyresmoke
03 Jun 2014, 4:24 pm #21

(03 Jun 2014, 3:47 pm)Richard Smiles I doubt they have been removed from service, they are probably just wanting to get a few of the New ones out on the road, rather than have them sat in the depot.

EDIT: It is likely that they will wait until sufficient are available until service 3 is fully operated by GAS buses, rather than just a couple.

Of the 10 recently delivered, 6 have been registered, but the last four (28024 - 28027) still haven't. So another three need to be available to fully convert the service.

It's also possible that they've got some issues on the older ones that require looking at and whilst Scania are there it's a good chance to get them in especially now they've got all of the new ones as extra buses to play with.

There's a good chance the new ones will go out during the course of the day too, rather than just being allocated from the start of the day. I remember taking 22015 on its maiden voyage on Teesside as they gave me it as a changeover (at the depot gates on a 13).


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03 Jun 2014, 5:04 pm #22
(02 Jun 2014, 7:06 pm)Dan I didn't go, unfortunately.
I've never been particularly interested in that rally, if I'm honest!

It's a good rally!
Roland Pratt
03 Jun 2014, 5:04 pm #22

(02 Jun 2014, 7:06 pm)Dan I didn't go, unfortunately.
I've never been particularly interested in that rally, if I'm honest!

It's a good rally!

03 Jun 2014, 5:05 pm #23
(01 Jun 2014, 4:59 pm)morritt89 Hello all

Tried the South Shields Shuttle (or whatever it is called) today for the first time. Noticed on my ticket, the bus number is down as 21156 and the route is 998. Would anyone happen to know what 'route number' if any the sightseeing route in Newcastle is?

Also, would be nice to have a summer seafront service between Sunderland and South Shields (I'm sure the E1 used to serve all stops along the coast although it is only a vague memory).

=]

Didn't notice that! Will have to check my ticket. First time I've been on one of the open toppers.
Roland Pratt
03 Jun 2014, 5:05 pm #23

(01 Jun 2014, 4:59 pm)morritt89 Hello all

Tried the South Shields Shuttle (or whatever it is called) today for the first time. Noticed on my ticket, the bus number is down as 21156 and the route is 998. Would anyone happen to know what 'route number' if any the sightseeing route in Newcastle is?

Also, would be nice to have a summer seafront service between Sunderland and South Shields (I'm sure the E1 used to serve all stops along the coast although it is only a vague memory).

=]

Didn't notice that! Will have to check my ticket. First time I've been on one of the open toppers.

Michael



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03 Jun 2014, 5:38 pm #24
Couple of diversions coming up

http://www.stagecoachbus.com/tis-service...px?id=2032

http://www.stagecoachbus.com/tis-service...px?id=1908

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Michael
03 Jun 2014, 5:38 pm #24

Couple of diversions coming up

http://www.stagecoachbus.com/tis-service...px?id=2032

http://www.stagecoachbus.com/tis-service...px?id=1908


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Dan

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18,100
03 Jun 2014, 6:37 pm #25
(03 Jun 2014, 4:19 pm)Dan 28018 and 28021 surprisingly escaped me today. I only missed two of the workings, and typical that it's the two I missed that were allocated gas buses.

Two of the original batch of Scania E300s were also allocated to service 4 today too, with the other workings being ADL E200s.

My photographs of 28019 and 28020 have now been uploaded to Flickr.
Dan
03 Jun 2014, 6:37 pm #25

(03 Jun 2014, 4:19 pm)Dan 28018 and 28021 surprisingly escaped me today. I only missed two of the workings, and typical that it's the two I missed that were allocated gas buses.

Two of the original batch of Scania E300s were also allocated to service 4 today too, with the other workings being ADL E200s.

My photographs of 28019 and 28020 have now been uploaded to Flickr.

Michael



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04 Jun 2014, 5:40 am #26
(04 Jun 2014, 5:34 am)Richard Smiles A quick check of the DVLA website this morning, confirms that the last four Scania GAS buses, of the first batch of 10 delivered (28024 - 28027), were formally registered with the DVLA effective from yesterday Tuesday 3 June 2014.

This means, that effectively ALL 10 of the New batch are now available for service.

Wonder if they will be out on the 3 today.

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Michael
04 Jun 2014, 5:40 am #26

(04 Jun 2014, 5:34 am)Richard Smiles A quick check of the DVLA website this morning, confirms that the last four Scania GAS buses, of the first batch of 10 delivered (28024 - 28027), were formally registered with the DVLA effective from yesterday Tuesday 3 June 2014.

This means, that effectively ALL 10 of the New batch are now available for service.

Wonder if they will be out on the 3 today.


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Dan

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04 Jun 2014, 5:53 am #27
(04 Jun 2014, 5:40 am)Michael Wonder if they will be out on the 3 today.

Wishful thinking!
Why bother? The 4 is ideal! Tongue
Dan
04 Jun 2014, 5:53 am #27

(04 Jun 2014, 5:40 am)Michael Wonder if they will be out on the 3 today.

Wishful thinking!
Why bother? The 4 is ideal! Tongue

Michael



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04 Jun 2014, 6:10 am #28
(04 Jun 2014, 5:53 am)Dan Wishful thinking!
Why bother? The 4 is ideal! Tongue

Tongue ye tbh i was surprised when my email came back from them ages ago and they said the 3 and 13 were to get them, was expecting the 4 and something else

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Michael
04 Jun 2014, 6:10 am #28

(04 Jun 2014, 5:53 am)Dan Wishful thinking!
Why bother? The 4 is ideal! Tongue

Tongue ye tbh i was surprised when my email came back from them ages ago and they said the 3 and 13 were to get them, was expecting the 4 and something else


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Michael



19,145
04 Jun 2014, 6:24 am #29
(04 Jun 2014, 6:17 am)Richard Smiles They may just be easing them in on the road over the next few days, & to iron out any little glitches, before they launch them on service 3 Next Week ?

Remember, when they got the first batch, they used several of them for Driver Familiarisation etc.

More than Likely, least they can use them on the 16 and 20.

If they order a next batch i believe they will go on the 4 Tongue

There more likely to be used on most services on a Sunday to, along with the enviro's.

Expect for service 4, i wonder if any of them will wonder on to the 5/5A/8/10/11/12/18/19/23 before they are permanently allocated to the 3.

Be a good time to have a few runs on the routes to see if they are suitable for future buys
Edited 04 Jun 2014, 6:26 am by Michael.

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Michael
04 Jun 2014, 6:24 am #29

(04 Jun 2014, 6:17 am)Richard Smiles They may just be easing them in on the road over the next few days, & to iron out any little glitches, before they launch them on service 3 Next Week ?

Remember, when they got the first batch, they used several of them for Driver Familiarisation etc.

More than Likely, least they can use them on the 16 and 20.

If they order a next batch i believe they will go on the 4 Tongue

There more likely to be used on most services on a Sunday to, along with the enviro's.

Expect for service 4, i wonder if any of them will wonder on to the 5/5A/8/10/11/12/18/19/23 before they are permanently allocated to the 3.

Be a good time to have a few runs on the routes to see if they are suitable for future buys


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Dan

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18,100
04 Jun 2014, 11:41 am #30
22174 has now entered service at Lincoln, meaning that it most likely is not for driver trainer conversion.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/acbestphot...157741647/
Dan
04 Jun 2014, 11:41 am #30

22174 has now entered service at Lincoln, meaning that it most likely is not for driver trainer conversion.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/acbestphot...157741647/

Andreos1



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04 Jun 2014, 12:40 pm #31
(04 Jun 2014, 11:41 am)Dan 22174 has now entered service at Lincoln, meaning that it most likely is not for driver trainer conversion.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/acbestphot...157741647/

Beat me to it.
Was about to post a message saying I was 99.9% certain it was out and about today - after driving through Lincoln earlier on.

Guess the photo confirms it was!
Edited 04 Jun 2014, 12:41 pm by Andreos1.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
04 Jun 2014, 12:40 pm #31

(04 Jun 2014, 11:41 am)Dan 22174 has now entered service at Lincoln, meaning that it most likely is not for driver trainer conversion.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/acbestphot...157741647/

Beat me to it.
Was about to post a message saying I was 99.9% certain it was out and about today - after driving through Lincoln earlier on.

Guess the photo confirms it was!


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

04 Jun 2014, 1:21 pm #32
22196 is now at Stockton seen today on 36
David McGloin
04 Jun 2014, 1:21 pm #32

22196 is now at Stockton seen today on 36

Michael



19,145
04 Jun 2014, 3:42 pm #33
Southbound weekend closures of North Bridge Street, affecting Services 3, 4, 13, 16 and E2

The southbound carriageway of North Bridge Street, directly outside the Wheatsheaf offices, will need to be temporarily closed to allow for utilities works.

Last Updated: 04 June 2014 10:37 AM

The anticipated closure dates are during weekends, as follows:

* Saturday 7 and Sunday 8 June
* Saturday 14 and Sunday 15 June
* Saturday 21 and Sunday 22 June
* Saturday 28 & Sunday 29 June.

During closure periods, buses will not be able to serve their normal southbound stops at Wheatsheaf Bus Bay.

During works periods, southbound Services 3, 4, 13, 16 and E2 will be diverted from Southwick Road via Roker Avenue, Church Street North and Dundas Street, observing all bus stops along the line of the diversionary route.

Northbound services from Sunderland City Centre should be unaffected by these works. We have been assured the traffic management and closures will be cleared during Monday to Fridays, thus allowing buses to operate as normal during weekdays.

Clearly, whilst we will be endeavouring to operate these services in accordance with their published timetables, as well as continuing to liaise with our colleagues at Sunderland City Council to mitigate any problems, due to the additional mileage which is required by this diversion, there is the potential that bus services in the area may be subject to delays and disruption.

Stagecoach would like to apologise for any inconvenience these necessary works may cause, and we remain grateful for customers’ patience and understanding.

Services Affected: 3, 4, 13, 16, E2

Originally Posted: 04 June 2014 10:29 AM

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Michael
04 Jun 2014, 3:42 pm #33

Southbound weekend closures of North Bridge Street, affecting Services 3, 4, 13, 16 and E2

The southbound carriageway of North Bridge Street, directly outside the Wheatsheaf offices, will need to be temporarily closed to allow for utilities works.

Last Updated: 04 June 2014 10:37 AM

The anticipated closure dates are during weekends, as follows:

* Saturday 7 and Sunday 8 June
* Saturday 14 and Sunday 15 June
* Saturday 21 and Sunday 22 June
* Saturday 28 & Sunday 29 June.

During closure periods, buses will not be able to serve their normal southbound stops at Wheatsheaf Bus Bay.

During works periods, southbound Services 3, 4, 13, 16 and E2 will be diverted from Southwick Road via Roker Avenue, Church Street North and Dundas Street, observing all bus stops along the line of the diversionary route.

Northbound services from Sunderland City Centre should be unaffected by these works. We have been assured the traffic management and closures will be cleared during Monday to Fridays, thus allowing buses to operate as normal during weekdays.

Clearly, whilst we will be endeavouring to operate these services in accordance with their published timetables, as well as continuing to liaise with our colleagues at Sunderland City Council to mitigate any problems, due to the additional mileage which is required by this diversion, there is the potential that bus services in the area may be subject to delays and disruption.

Stagecoach would like to apologise for any inconvenience these necessary works may cause, and we remain grateful for customers’ patience and understanding.

Services Affected: 3, 4, 13, 16, E2

Originally Posted: 04 June 2014 10:29 AM


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tyresmoke



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04 Jun 2014, 5:42 pm #34
(04 Jun 2014, 1:21 pm)David McGloin 22196 is now at Stockton seen today on 36

Here it is earlier this afternoon... Cheers to Bryn for pointing it out!
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tyresmoke
04 Jun 2014, 5:42 pm #34

(04 Jun 2014, 1:21 pm)David McGloin 22196 is now at Stockton seen today on 36

Here it is earlier this afternoon... Cheers to Bryn for pointing it out!

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Dan

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04 Jun 2014, 5:52 pm #35
(04 Jun 2014, 5:42 pm)tyresmoke Here it is earlier this afternoon... Cheers to Bryn for pointing it out!

Enjoy it........... I'm glad it's gone from Sunderland, is all I'm saying!
Dan
04 Jun 2014, 5:52 pm #35

(04 Jun 2014, 5:42 pm)tyresmoke Here it is earlier this afternoon... Cheers to Bryn for pointing it out!

Enjoy it........... I'm glad it's gone from Sunderland, is all I'm saying!

glen



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04 Jun 2014, 6:23 pm #36
Is more man alx 300 coming to Teesside from stagecoach in Sunderland and can't want for stagecoach on Teesside new buses to come.
glen
04 Jun 2014, 6:23 pm #36

Is more man alx 300 coming to Teesside from stagecoach in Sunderland and can't want for stagecoach on Teesside new buses to come.

Acky81



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04 Jun 2014, 10:03 pm #37
I drove through farringdon early on this morning bout 720am and passed two new gas buses on service 3 and 13
Acky81
04 Jun 2014, 10:03 pm #37

I drove through farringdon early on this morning bout 720am and passed two new gas buses on service 3 and 13

Michael



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05 Jun 2014, 7:56 am #38
(05 Jun 2014, 7:53 am)Richard Smiles Prior to Dan's posting, I submitted an enquiry regarding 22174 via the East Midlands Enquiries email address, as to what purpose 22174 would be serving.

I received what can only be described as a very interesting reply directly from the Operations Manager at Stagecoach in Lincoln this morning.

Aside from confirming that 22174 has obviously entered service, the Ops Manager has also revealed, that his Depot is awaiting a further 8 of these (MAN) vehicles from Sunderland.

This is surprising, given their age & of course the issue of DDA compliancy.

That's interesting, wonder if these are to replace their oldest MAN's? - not sure on Lincoln's fleet though!

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Michael
05 Jun 2014, 7:56 am #38

(05 Jun 2014, 7:53 am)Richard Smiles Prior to Dan's posting, I submitted an enquiry regarding 22174 via the East Midlands Enquiries email address, as to what purpose 22174 would be serving.

I received what can only be described as a very interesting reply directly from the Operations Manager at Stagecoach in Lincoln this morning.

Aside from confirming that 22174 has obviously entered service, the Ops Manager has also revealed, that his Depot is awaiting a further 8 of these (MAN) vehicles from Sunderland.

This is surprising, given their age & of course the issue of DDA compliancy.

That's interesting, wonder if these are to replace their oldest MAN's? - not sure on Lincoln's fleet though!


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Michael



19,145
05 Jun 2014, 8:10 am #39
(05 Jun 2014, 8:05 am)Richard Smiles Just had a further response Michael, two more MANs are being collected from Sunderland tomorrow & they have been identified as 22453 & 22463.

These are to replace Old Volvo Olympian vehicles in order, to introduce a Low Floor Bus Facility on a number of routes. It also believed, that they may be out stationed at Newark Depot.

The Ops Manager has indicated that he will keep me informed.

That's good, least the Op's manager is keeping you up to date.

Noob question: Will drivers from Lincoln come up to collect them or will drivers from Sunderland take them down?

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
05 Jun 2014, 8:10 am #39

(05 Jun 2014, 8:05 am)Richard Smiles Just had a further response Michael, two more MANs are being collected from Sunderland tomorrow & they have been identified as 22453 & 22463.

These are to replace Old Volvo Olympian vehicles in order, to introduce a Low Floor Bus Facility on a number of routes. It also believed, that they may be out stationed at Newark Depot.

The Ops Manager has indicated that he will keep me informed.

That's good, least the Op's manager is keeping you up to date.

Noob question: Will drivers from Lincoln come up to collect them or will drivers from Sunderland take them down?


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Dan

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05 Jun 2014, 8:20 am #40
(05 Jun 2014, 8:16 am)Richard Smiles I think the magic word is "Collected" Michael, so that suggests a couple of drivers will be coming up from Lincoln to take them back, as they did with 22174.

On a separate note, there are a total of 16 "Old" Volvo Olympians currently allocated to Lincoln. I will email you a copy of the current Allocation File for the East Midlands.

I'd assume the Pyoneers (being in rail replacement livery) will remain rather than be withdrawn?
Likewise, I'd imagine that 16314 will remain too, given that it's in a special tour livery.

I'm putting my money on the withdrawals to include the three Northern Counties Palatine bodied Volvo Olympians and five further Alexander RL bodied examples, assuming one has already been withdrawn following the arrival of 22174 - giving them four more Alexander RLs to withdraw.
Dan
05 Jun 2014, 8:20 am #40

(05 Jun 2014, 8:16 am)Richard Smiles I think the magic word is "Collected" Michael, so that suggests a couple of drivers will be coming up from Lincoln to take them back, as they did with 22174.

On a separate note, there are a total of 16 "Old" Volvo Olympians currently allocated to Lincoln. I will email you a copy of the current Allocation File for the East Midlands.

I'd assume the Pyoneers (being in rail replacement livery) will remain rather than be withdrawn?
Likewise, I'd imagine that 16314 will remain too, given that it's in a special tour livery.

I'm putting my money on the withdrawals to include the three Northern Counties Palatine bodied Volvo Olympians and five further Alexander RL bodied examples, assuming one has already been withdrawn following the arrival of 22174 - giving them four more Alexander RLs to withdraw.

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