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Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - October 2014

Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - October 2014

 
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29 Oct 2014, 8:17 pm #201
(29 Oct 2014, 7:47 pm)Cock Robin Very interesting. So the map confirms the branding is all wrong. Wonder if they'll change it before the launch. 36/37/38 look to be unaltered, except chopped off at M'bro. Park End reduced from 3 an hour to 2 an hour evenings.
Wonder if the 10A/11A mentioned replaces the 610/611?  Looks like it.
And no mention of the 58A. So looks like it continues as an early morning only service. Suspected it may be running all day to compete with the A66!
Apparently the branding only confirms the "links to certain places" but everyone who reads it would suspect them to be the "new routes" The 38 has changed from Norton Roundabout straight into the Glebe just like the old 38A from years gone by. As for ParkEnd there used to be only 2 an hour previously and that seemed to work. I suspect the facts and figures have been poured over and adjusted to suit most peoples travelling plans. You can't please all of the people all of the time me thinks.
bertibassett
29 Oct 2014, 8:17 pm #201

(29 Oct 2014, 7:47 pm)Cock Robin Very interesting. So the map confirms the branding is all wrong. Wonder if they'll change it before the launch. 36/37/38 look to be unaltered, except chopped off at M'bro. Park End reduced from 3 an hour to 2 an hour evenings.
Wonder if the 10A/11A mentioned replaces the 610/611?  Looks like it.
And no mention of the 58A. So looks like it continues as an early morning only service. Suspected it may be running all day to compete with the A66!
Apparently the branding only confirms the "links to certain places" but everyone who reads it would suspect them to be the "new routes" The 38 has changed from Norton Roundabout straight into the Glebe just like the old 38A from years gone by. As for ParkEnd there used to be only 2 an hour previously and that seemed to work. I suspect the facts and figures have been poured over and adjusted to suit most peoples travelling plans. You can't please all of the people all of the time me thinks.

col87



493
29 Oct 2014, 10:32 pm #202
So it looks like Hartlepool service 6 eveing journeys have been withdrawn again about time some competation to stagecoach happened
col87
29 Oct 2014, 10:32 pm #202

So it looks like Hartlepool service 6 eveing journeys have been withdrawn again about time some competation to stagecoach happened

Kuyoyo



6,846
30 Oct 2014, 9:20 am #203
27176/8 were registered with DVLA yesterday.

Attached is the breakdown of the vehicle's date of registration (take a day off for delivery dates for those registered in their delivery week, take 3 off for those registered the Monday of the following week)

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Kuyoyo
30 Oct 2014, 9:20 am #203

27176/8 were registered with DVLA yesterday.

Attached is the breakdown of the vehicle's date of registration (take a day off for delivery dates for those registered in their delivery week, take 3 off for those registered the Monday of the following week)

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Stagecoach On Teesside (New E300s) Mk2.doc
Size: 92.5 KB / Downloads: 48

Kuyoyo



6,846
30 Oct 2014, 11:34 am #204
(30 Oct 2014, 9:20 am)Kuyoyo 27176/8 were registered with DVLA yesterday.

Attached is the breakdown of the vehicle's date of registration (take a day off for delivery dates for those registered in their delivery week, take 3 off for those registered the Monday of the following week)

27179 (SN64 OKE) arrived last night, leaving just 27180/1 (SN64 OKF/G) to be delivered.

As such, the full branding list for the E300s are known:

'Time Zone' branding (Orange Based): 27166, 27167, 27168, 27169
'Zone Out' branding (Blue Based): 27170, 27171, 27172, 27174
'O Zone' Branding (Green based): 27173, 27175, 27177, 27178
'Comfort Zone' branding (Purple Based): 27176, 27179, 27180, 27181
Kuyoyo
30 Oct 2014, 11:34 am #204

(30 Oct 2014, 9:20 am)Kuyoyo 27176/8 were registered with DVLA yesterday.

Attached is the breakdown of the vehicle's date of registration (take a day off for delivery dates for those registered in their delivery week, take 3 off for those registered the Monday of the following week)

27179 (SN64 OKE) arrived last night, leaving just 27180/1 (SN64 OKF/G) to be delivered.

As such, the full branding list for the E300s are known:

'Time Zone' branding (Orange Based): 27166, 27167, 27168, 27169
'Zone Out' branding (Blue Based): 27170, 27171, 27172, 27174
'O Zone' Branding (Green based): 27173, 27175, 27177, 27178
'Comfort Zone' branding (Purple Based): 27176, 27179, 27180, 27181

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1,793
30 Oct 2014, 3:59 pm #205
12078 is on 1 making a rare appearance on there
Diamond One
30 Oct 2014, 3:59 pm #205

12078 is on 1 making a rare appearance on there

Cock Robin



2,778
30 Oct 2014, 7:01 pm #206
(29 Oct 2014, 10:32 pm)col87 So it looks like Hartlepool service 6 eveing journeys have been withdrawn again about time some competation to stagecoach happened

Well haven't seen a registration change for it so it shouldn't be coming off for a couple of months. No way they should get dispensation to withdraw them without notice.
Cock Robin
30 Oct 2014, 7:01 pm #206

(29 Oct 2014, 10:32 pm)col87 So it looks like Hartlepool service 6 eveing journeys have been withdrawn again about time some competation to stagecoach happened

Well haven't seen a registration change for it so it shouldn't be coming off for a couple of months. No way they should get dispensation to withdraw them without notice.

beefcake



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30 Oct 2014, 11:21 pm #207
Can't really say I'd be shocked to see the Sunday-Thursday evening 6 withdrawn. Every time I've seen one, and on the few occasions I myself used it, the loadings have being absolutely pitiful. I've not seen more than 6 passengers use it at any one time
beefcake
30 Oct 2014, 11:21 pm #207

Can't really say I'd be shocked to see the Sunday-Thursday evening 6 withdrawn. Every time I've seen one, and on the few occasions I myself used it, the loadings have being absolutely pitiful. I've not seen more than 6 passengers use it at any one time

col87



493
30 Oct 2014, 11:59 pm #208
(30 Oct 2014, 11:21 pm)beefcake Can't really say I'd be shocked to see the Sunday-Thursday evening 6 withdrawn. Every time I've seen one, and on the few occasions I myself used it, the loadings have being absolutely pitiful. I've not seen more than 6 passengers use it at any one time

Well on the Hartlepool guide it has no mention of any eveing sunday to thursday eveingjourneys on the 6 it should do the full route thats what people in the town want not having to get one bus and wait ten minuates for another one
col87
30 Oct 2014, 11:59 pm #208

(30 Oct 2014, 11:21 pm)beefcake Can't really say I'd be shocked to see the Sunday-Thursday evening 6 withdrawn. Every time I've seen one, and on the few occasions I myself used it, the loadings have being absolutely pitiful. I've not seen more than 6 passengers use it at any one time

Well on the Hartlepool guide it has no mention of any eveing sunday to thursday eveingjourneys on the 6 it should do the full route thats what people in the town want not having to get one bus and wait ten minuates for another one

Michael



19,141
31 Oct 2014, 12:42 pm #209
16's running in 2's

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
31 Oct 2014, 12:42 pm #209

16's running in 2's


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Michael



19,141
31 Oct 2014, 2:26 pm #210
I'm on the E2, just noticed theres a sign saying:

Electronic cigarettere aren't permitted onboard our buses

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
31 Oct 2014, 2:26 pm #210

I'm on the E2, just noticed theres a sign saying:

Electronic cigarettere aren't permitted onboard our buses


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Adrian



9,566
31 Oct 2014, 2:49 pm #211
(31 Oct 2014, 2:26 pm)Michael I'm on the E2, just noticed theres a sign saying:

Electronic cigarettere aren't permitted onboard our buses
Arriva's onboard notices appear to be changing to reflect this too. Good move.

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Adrian
31 Oct 2014, 2:49 pm #211

(31 Oct 2014, 2:26 pm)Michael I'm on the E2, just noticed theres a sign saying:

Electronic cigarettere aren't permitted onboard our buses
Arriva's onboard notices appear to be changing to reflect this too. Good move.


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Michael



19,141
31 Oct 2014, 3:04 pm #212
2 training buses in wheatsheaf today
Edited 31 Oct 2014, 3:05 pm by Michael.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
31 Oct 2014, 3:04 pm #212

2 training buses in wheatsheaf today


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Jimmi



10,966
31 Oct 2014, 3:50 pm #213
Quote:Arriva's onboard notices appear to be changing to reflect this too. Good move.
Arriva have not permitted e-cigarettes for a while now, probably because people were smoking e-cigarettes and other smokers were lighting up on their buses. Although this doesn't stop people from smoking them, I had one blowing smoke in my face on Arriva service 8 the other week.
Jimmi
31 Oct 2014, 3:50 pm #213

Quote:Arriva's onboard notices appear to be changing to reflect this too. Good move.
Arriva have not permitted e-cigarettes for a while now, probably because people were smoking e-cigarettes and other smokers were lighting up on their buses. Although this doesn't stop people from smoking them, I had one blowing smoke in my face on Arriva service 8 the other week.

Cock Robin



2,778
31 Oct 2014, 5:41 pm #214
(30 Oct 2014, 11:21 pm)beefcake Can't really say I'd be shocked to see the Sunday-Thursday evening 6 withdrawn. Every time I've seen one, and on the few occasions I myself used it, the loadings have being absolutely pitiful. I've not seen more than 6 passengers use it at any one time

The council hasn't even put the times up at some of the stops have they? Apparently as usual Connect Tees Valley produced them but the councils neglect to put them up.
Edited 31 Oct 2014, 7:03 pm by Cock Robin.
Cock Robin
31 Oct 2014, 5:41 pm #214

(30 Oct 2014, 11:21 pm)beefcake Can't really say I'd be shocked to see the Sunday-Thursday evening 6 withdrawn. Every time I've seen one, and on the few occasions I myself used it, the loadings have being absolutely pitiful. I've not seen more than 6 passengers use it at any one time

The council hasn't even put the times up at some of the stops have they? Apparently as usual Connect Tees Valley produced them but the councils neglect to put them up.

beefcake



263
31 Oct 2014, 6:24 pm #215
I'm not sure on the entire route, I know it was up at Dyke House where I used to get on, but honestly can't remember seeing one on display on Victoria Road, which is rather strange as that's where the bus terminates.
beefcake
31 Oct 2014, 6:24 pm #215

I'm not sure on the entire route, I know it was up at Dyke House where I used to get on, but honestly can't remember seeing one on display on Victoria Road, which is rather strange as that's where the bus terminates.

tyresmoke



5,299
31 Oct 2014, 6:54 pm #216
Connect Tees Valley staff are council staff, they're one and the same. They produce the timetables on behalf of the councils. Obviously they don't have enough staff following council cuts to get round everywhere (I think there is only 2 people left?) - a stop over the road from me still has an old green timetable from 2013

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tyresmoke
31 Oct 2014, 6:54 pm #216

Connect Tees Valley staff are council staff, they're one and the same. They produce the timetables on behalf of the councils. Obviously they don't have enough staff following council cuts to get round everywhere (I think there is only 2 people left?) - a stop over the road from me still has an old green timetable from 2013


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Cock Robin



2,778
31 Oct 2014, 7:09 pm #217
(31 Oct 2014, 6:54 pm)tyresmoke Connect Tees Valley staff are council staff, they're one and the same. They produce the timetables on behalf of the councils. Obviously they don't have enough staff following council cuts to get round everywhere (I think there is only 2 people left?) - a stop over the road from me still has an old green timetable from 2013

Connect Tees Valley produce the inserts, which seems to by and large be produced on time despite the few now employed there (helped no doubt by increasing computerisation) but it is then distributed to the individual 5 local councils to display at the bus stops, and they just sit on it for weeks and then often have to be re-sent them.
Middlesbrough can't claim to be short staffed when in the bus station they have two security men often loafing about talking to two or four council wardens and with numerous other council employees hanging about, not to mention a room full of cctv muppets upstairs, yet they can't do a simple thing like change an insert on the bus stand.
Cock Robin
31 Oct 2014, 7:09 pm #217

(31 Oct 2014, 6:54 pm)tyresmoke Connect Tees Valley staff are council staff, they're one and the same. They produce the timetables on behalf of the councils. Obviously they don't have enough staff following council cuts to get round everywhere (I think there is only 2 people left?) - a stop over the road from me still has an old green timetable from 2013

Connect Tees Valley produce the inserts, which seems to by and large be produced on time despite the few now employed there (helped no doubt by increasing computerisation) but it is then distributed to the individual 5 local councils to display at the bus stops, and they just sit on it for weeks and then often have to be re-sent them.
Middlesbrough can't claim to be short staffed when in the bus station they have two security men often loafing about talking to two or four council wardens and with numerous other council employees hanging about, not to mention a room full of cctv muppets upstairs, yet they can't do a simple thing like change an insert on the bus stand.

Adrian



9,566
31 Oct 2014, 7:16 pm #218
(31 Oct 2014, 3:50 pm)Jimmi Arriva have not permitted e-cigarettes for a while now, probably because people were smoking e-cigarettes and other smokers were lighting up on their buses. Although this doesn't stop people from smoking them, I had one blowing smoke in my face on Arriva service 8 the other week.

I've not seen it as a problem really. Think I've only ever seen one person smoking them on the bus. Fortunately people are learning that they're not accepted as a substitute for the smoking ban, with many workplaces specifically mentioning them as banned in their smoking policies now. 

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Adrian
31 Oct 2014, 7:16 pm #218

(31 Oct 2014, 3:50 pm)Jimmi Arriva have not permitted e-cigarettes for a while now, probably because people were smoking e-cigarettes and other smokers were lighting up on their buses. Although this doesn't stop people from smoking them, I had one blowing smoke in my face on Arriva service 8 the other week.

I've not seen it as a problem really. Think I've only ever seen one person smoking them on the bus. Fortunately people are learning that they're not accepted as a substitute for the smoking ban, with many workplaces specifically mentioning them as banned in their smoking policies now. 


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