Stagecoach North East: Order Predictions
Stagecoach North East: Order Predictions
(02 Jun 2022, 12:07 am)toward6931 they do but so does Newcastle for CAZ, kill two birds with one stone if say 15 new 200MMCs were bought for slatyford which could then cascade through Sunderland as they have Newcastle bound services, then down to hartlepool. as it is a lower input area than NCL and SDLDWith the current financial predicament that the bus industry is in, I can't see any new buses being ordered unless they are bought with assistance from government funding. I can see the north east getting cast offs from Oxford, Cambridge, Coventry, Sheffield, Manchester and so on where they are getting new buses funded through government.
(02 Jun 2022, 12:07 am)toward6931 they do but so does Newcastle for CAZ, kill two birds with one stone if say 15 new 200MMCs were bought for slatyford which could then cascade through Sunderland as they have Newcastle bound services, then down to hartlepool. as it is a lower input area than NCL and SDLDWith the current financial predicament that the bus industry is in, I can't see any new buses being ordered unless they are bought with assistance from government funding. I can see the north east getting cast offs from Oxford, Cambridge, Coventry, Sheffield, Manchester and so on where they are getting new buses funded through government.
(02 Jun 2022, 12:07 am)toward6931 they do but so does Newcastle for CAZ, kill two birds with one stone if say 15 new 200MMCs were bought for slatyford which could then cascade through Sunderland as they have Newcastle bound services, then down to hartlepool. as it is a lower input area than NCL and SDLD
(02 Jun 2022, 12:07 am)toward6931 they do but so does Newcastle for CAZ, kill two birds with one stone if say 15 new 200MMCs were bought for slatyford which could then cascade through Sunderland as they have Newcastle bound services, then down to hartlepool. as it is a lower input area than NCL and SDLD
(02 Jun 2022, 11:17 am)glen So this Stockton getting new hydrogen buses then.
(02 Jun 2022, 11:17 am)glen So this Stockton getting new hydrogen buses then.
What you could do for Hartlepool is this.
1 High Tunstall - Middlesbrough kept as it is but possibly becoming a joint service with Stockton.
The High Tunstal Seaton Journey renumbered to 1A or 2. Meaning that reduces the number of buses Hartlepool need for it.
3/3A already had reductions down from 15 - 30 Minutes can’t really cut it further. Putting it back to inter working with the 6 could work though. 3 would run every 20 minutes.
6 continues as now but split back into every second Journey going to South Fens these Journeys renumbered as 5 on 20 minutes frequency. 6 would inter work with the 3.
7 could be dropped down to every 15 minutes going back up to 10 at peak times.
If more drivers and better buses become available also do a 7A again which operates via Millbank Road and Morrisons M - F daytimes
This would only be temporary solutions though the long aim should be better services.
Using Saint Patrick’s could do 3/6/7 inter working.
Say a fleet of 36
5 Dart SLF
10 of the better 08 plate enviros
6 Alexander 300 ( From Stockton or Newcastle )
2 Mercedes Benz sprinters ( Teesflex)
3 05 plate enviro 300 ( from Teesside )
10 64/15 plate Enviro 300 ( From Stockton ).
This would see off the majority of the 08 plate enviros. The 59 and 61 plate Dart bodied enviros could be used in spare capacity’s or go back to Sunderland/ Shields depots for work there.
If Newcastle get 20 or so buses such as mixture of enviro 200 and 400 MMC then Stockton could get older 57- 61 plate enviros as well as well as Alexander 300 freeing up some buses to move to Hartlepool which would make the fleet more reliable even if it is still mostly older buses.
No capital expenditure on this region mapped out. DWS will be more interested in profits from their newly gained share of ADL than what happens to Stagecoach North East...
(02 Jun 2022, 11:47 am)glen Thanks you for info mate
(02 Jun 2022, 3:59 pm)54APhotography No capital expenditure on this region mapped out. DWS will be more interested in profits from their newly gained share of ADL than what happens to Stagecoach North East...
(02 Jun 2022, 11:47 am)glen Thanks you for info mate
(02 Jun 2022, 3:59 pm)54APhotography No capital expenditure on this region mapped out. DWS will be more interested in profits from their newly gained share of ADL than what happens to Stagecoach North East...
(02 Jun 2022, 5:13 pm)Storx No worriesIsn't ADL now owned by Nfi International Limited?
As far as I'm aware Stagecoach doesn't have any shares in ADL. The Souter family does but it's not through Stagecoach, they own them direct through Souter Investments which also has a share in Stagecoach.
(02 Jun 2022, 10:00 pm)busmanT Isn't ADL now owned by Nfi International Limited?
(02 Jun 2022, 10:00 pm)busmanT Isn't ADL now owned by Nfi International Limited?
(02 Jun 2022, 10:29 pm)Storx Aye believe so but they've got a share in NFI now, not sure what mind just checked there.Makes sense, accountancy sense
https://www.souterinvestments.com/news/s...nfi-group/
"Souter Investments will retain an equity interest in NFI and ADL going forward having been issued shares in NFI Group Inc. as part of the transaction.
(02 Jun 2022, 10:29 pm)Storx Aye believe so but they've got a share in NFI now, not sure what mind just checked there.Makes sense, accountancy sense
https://www.souterinvestments.com/news/s...nfi-group/
"Souter Investments will retain an equity interest in NFI and ADL going forward having been issued shares in NFI Group Inc. as part of the transaction.
(02 Jun 2022, 9:10 am)busmanT With the current financial predicament that the bus industry is in, I can't see any new buses being ordered unless they are bought with assistance from government funding. I can see the north east getting cast offs from Oxford, Cambridge, Coventry, Sheffield, Manchester and so on where they are getting new buses funded through government.
It will be interesting to see if Stagecoach's new owners DWS speed up investment as they have suggested they will do.
(02 Jun 2022, 9:10 am)busmanT With the current financial predicament that the bus industry is in, I can't see any new buses being ordered unless they are bought with assistance from government funding. I can see the north east getting cast offs from Oxford, Cambridge, Coventry, Sheffield, Manchester and so on where they are getting new buses funded through government.
It will be interesting to see if Stagecoach's new owners DWS speed up investment as they have suggested they will do.
its welcome to see that some newer machines have arrived in the way of the 3 09 plate E300s from Carlisle with all the sounds saying they will be replacing 3 of the older ALX 300s when the commonwealth games is over, but i am disappointed that its not a substantial improvement, i mean the 08 plate 300s from Scotland were full of problems when they arrived and the three that are left currently do not sound in great health now
(22 Feb 2015, 3:38 pm)Kuyoyo I would say, that the 12/39 would be the most likely routes to receive investment before 10/11 14/34 58/35 59/61 and 13 in that order. More than likely, the following would happen at Stockton:Never e300s on 35 normally alx30024101-15 would then be allocated to services 14/34 (6) and 10/11 (5) (while also being WiFi fitted) while 22061-6 would be retained for the 13 (5).
- Service 12/39: 17 ADL E300s (Presently PVR 12, minor changes result in PVR 13 + 4 spares)
- Service 58/35: 5 ADL E300s (PVR 4)
- Service 59/61: 7 ADL E300s (PVR 6)
(22 Feb 2015, 3:38 pm)Kuyoyo I would say, that the 12/39 would be the most likely routes to receive investment before 10/11 14/34 58/35 59/61 and 13 in that order. More than likely, the following would happen at Stockton:Never e300s on 35 normally alx30024101-15 would then be allocated to services 14/34 (6) and 10/11 (5) (while also being WiFi fitted) while 22061-6 would be retained for the 13 (5).
- Service 12/39: 17 ADL E300s (Presently PVR 12, minor changes result in PVR 13 + 4 spares)
- Service 58/35: 5 ADL E300s (PVR 4)
- Service 59/61: 7 ADL E300s (PVR 6)
(02 Aug 2022, 8:00 pm)glen When are stagecoach north east going to New buses again?
(02 Aug 2022, 8:00 pm)glen When are stagecoach north east going to New buses again?
(04 Aug 2022, 3:28 pm)Benny The 36 has gotten new buses every 5 years since 2009 and serves quite a bit of Hartlepool....Is it true hartlepool getting optare
(04 Aug 2022, 3:28 pm)Benny The 36 has gotten new buses every 5 years since 2009 and serves quite a bit of Hartlepool....
(04 Aug 2022, 3:58 pm)Lollist Is it true hartlepool getting optare
I read somewhere a few buses from down south or Scotland will be getting shared out between pools and stockton as well as Hyrdos and E400s?
(04 Aug 2022, 3:28 pm)Benny The 36 has gotten new buses every 5 years since 2009 and serves quite a bit of Hartlepool....
(04 Aug 2022, 3:58 pm)Lollist Is it true hartlepool getting optare
I read somewhere a few buses from down south or Scotland will be getting shared out between pools and stockton as well as Hyrdos and E400s?
