Stagecoach North East: Order Predictions
Stagecoach North East: Order Predictions
(22 Oct 2022, 1:17 pm)Malarkey Seen a post earlier on Twitter stating that Stagecoach North East are getting some Yutong E10's, i'm doubtful of this given there no confirmed plans for the charging infrastructure to be built plus they trialled the E12 in 2018 and not looked at them since although Stagecoach Midlands do have a few E10's for the National Grid Contract that they operate.i think the yutongs are for perth
Stagecoach do seem to be moving away from Alexander Dennis as they have been purchasing Volvo B8RLE MCV Evora's for Stagecoach Highland ops and also have some Volvo 7900E's at Stagecoach Western.
(22 Oct 2022, 1:17 pm)Malarkey Seen a post earlier on Twitter stating that Stagecoach North East are getting some Yutong E10's, i'm doubtful of this given there no confirmed plans for the charging infrastructure to be built plus they trialled the E12 in 2018 and not looked at them since although Stagecoach Midlands do have a few E10's for the National Grid Contract that they operate.i think the yutongs are for perth
Stagecoach do seem to be moving away from Alexander Dennis as they have been purchasing Volvo B8RLE MCV Evora's for Stagecoach Highland ops and also have some Volvo 7900E's at Stagecoach Western.
(22 Oct 2022, 1:47 pm)toward6931 i think the yutongs are for perth
They are apparently at Southampton Docks awaiting collection from Pelican before delivery to Stagecoach, looking at the Stagecoach East Scotland/Highland Fleetlist they could be replacing Enviro 200's that are a mix of 60/63/14 & 64 Plate as there nothing else I could see them displacing.
(22 Oct 2022, 7:12 pm)Malarkey They are apparently at Southampton Docks awaiting collection from Pelican before delivery to Stagecoach, looking at the Stagecoach East Scotland/Highland Fleetlist they could be replacing Enviro 200's that are a mix of 60/63/14 & 64 Plate as there nothing else I could see them displacing.
(22 Oct 2022, 7:12 pm)Malarkey They are apparently at Southampton Docks awaiting collection from Pelican before delivery to Stagecoach, looking at the Stagecoach East Scotland/Highland Fleetlist they could be replacing Enviro 200's that are a mix of 60/63/14 & 64 Plate as there nothing else I could see them displacing.
(22 Oct 2022, 10:20 pm)Storx There's 25 of them coming for the 1 - 9. Assuming it'll displace the 7 Solo's and 18 Enviro 200's. They won them in the ScotZEB, which is the same as the ZEBRA here in Scotland.
https://www.electrive.com/2022/08/25/sta...inverness/
(22 Oct 2022, 10:20 pm)Storx There's 25 of them coming for the 1 - 9. Assuming it'll displace the 7 Solo's and 18 Enviro 200's. They won them in the ScotZEB, which is the same as the ZEBRA here in Scotland.
https://www.electrive.com/2022/08/25/sta...inverness/
(22 Oct 2022, 11:10 pm)Malarkey There was 1 EV Double Decker also mentioned within that article for Perth with further EV's on order for Aberdeen, Ayr, Dunfermline, Kirkcaldy and Kilmarnock via ScotZEB. Depending on what Kilmarnock get pretty much all of there services will be EV operated with the exception of there Coach Services, either way it'll be EV's for the 4, 10, 11 & 50.
Wouldn't mind some of the Scania E300's down here in North East.
(22 Oct 2022, 11:10 pm)Malarkey There was 1 EV Double Decker also mentioned within that article for Perth with further EV's on order for Aberdeen, Ayr, Dunfermline, Kirkcaldy and Kilmarnock via ScotZEB. Depending on what Kilmarnock get pretty much all of there services will be EV operated with the exception of there Coach Services, either way it'll be EV's for the 4, 10, 11 & 50.
Wouldn't mind some of the Scania E300's down here in North East.
(23 Oct 2022, 6:46 am)Storx Aye it seems that they're trying to pretty much make the whole Scottish fleet electric well the routes in the cities anyway.
No doubt a headline grabbing thing since they don't really have many city routes and most their Scottish network is rural.
Believe Perth is 2023 though, not sure on the others.
(23 Oct 2022, 6:46 am)Storx Aye it seems that they're trying to pretty much make the whole Scottish fleet electric well the routes in the cities anyway.
No doubt a headline grabbing thing since they don't really have many city routes and most their Scottish network is rural.
Believe Perth is 2023 though, not sure on the others.
First Look at the Stagecoach Inverness Yutong E10's (SG72 NAA) - https://flickr.com/photos/128789124@N06/...1642647502
I think the local livery actually suits the Yutongs quite nicely. Definitely looks better than the E200MMCs in that livery.
ne14ne1 Wrote:
“BREAKING NEWS: Stagecoach have ordered 200 new @ADLbus Enviro400MMCs that will replace older buses in the fleet in: Oxford, Manchester, Yorkshire, Preston, Northampton, Mansfield, Portsmouth, Chichester, Winchester, Torquay, Folkestone and Newcastle”
https://twitter.com/cbwtweets/status/159...98466?s=46&t=EEVe5v8rsI6XXJAgszgD4w
So far reported on various other forums and Facebook groups are:
14 for Northampton to cover their services 1/2 to decker operation, replacing single deckers - due in May/June
23 for Preston for the 125 (Preston to Bolton via Chorley), replacing 24 Gold-spec Scania N230UD/Alexander Dennis Enviro400 from 2015
Unknown number for Folkestone for service 16 (Hythe to Canterbury via Folkestone)
20 for Sheffield Holbrook depot, likely to displaced Enviro400Hs from either the 52 (Woodhosue to Crookes or Hillsborough via the City Centre) or the 120 (Halfway Tram Stop to Ranmoor or Fulwood via Crystal Peaks, Manor Top, City Centre and Hallamshire Hospital), and allow the replacement of the remaining Euro4 MAN 18.240/Alexander Dennis E300s at the various depots in the division (should only be the ex-West Scotland 2418x examples remaining - their transfer was due to them being Euro6, required for the Rawmarsh Hill CAZ) - due during the Summer
That's 57 with confirmed homes, leaving 143 to split between 9 depots.
wouldnt mind SNE blagging the 24 scania 230s from preston to build up the capacity. in the meantime 143 split between 9 depots is only 15 on average, well below the 35 im thinking of in my head to update SNEs fleet
I think potentially the X47/X77/X78/X82/X77 & X88 are best fit PVR wise however not all these services require Double-Deckers otherwise I'd say the 1/22 or 38 are contenders however i'd say with peak time workings included PVR's may be tight at 15 which is the "Magic Number" I've heard.
(15 Nov 2022, 7:04 pm)Malarkey I think potentially the X47/X77/X78/X82/X77 & X88 are best fit PVR wise however not all these services require Double-Deckers otherwise I'd say the 1/22 or 38 are contenders however i'd say with peak time workings included PVR's may be tight at 15 which is the "Magic Number" I've heard.yes could definitely see sense in 1 or 2 of the X47s and X78 AND X82 each getting allocated maybe 2 Deckers,
(15 Nov 2022, 7:04 pm)Malarkey I think potentially the X47/X77/X78/X82/X77 & X88 are best fit PVR wise however not all these services require Double-Deckers otherwise I'd say the 1/22 or 38 are contenders however i'd say with peak time workings included PVR's may be tight at 15 which is the "Magic Number" I've heard.yes could definitely see sense in 1 or 2 of the X47s and X78 AND X82 each getting allocated maybe 2 Deckers,
(15 Nov 2022, 7:59 pm)toward6931 i would advocate that 4 or 5 of the E200s from slatyford are replaced by E300s and go south to either Sunderland or shields allowing those depots to release vehicles to hartlepool. and maybe 6 of the older double decks get put on an X47/X78/X82 Duty as they are getting busier compared to before the pandemic, especially the X47. i would say 2 of those single decks could be cascaded owing to the age of the double decks replacing them and the age of the other single decks.
(15 Nov 2022, 7:59 pm)toward6931 i would advocate that 4 or 5 of the E200s from slatyford are replaced by E300s and go south to either Sunderland or shields allowing those depots to release vehicles to hartlepool. and maybe 6 of the older double decks get put on an X47/X78/X82 Duty as they are getting busier compared to before the pandemic, especially the X47. i would say 2 of those single decks could be cascaded owing to the age of the double decks replacing them and the age of the other single decks.
(16 Nov 2022, 1:50 pm)Storx Remember reading this last night wonder if they might come for the 685 now instead with them taking it over. Potentially could see the X82 scrapped completely (or dropped to hourly) with a short 685 from Newcastle to Throckley every hour. Otherwise they're going to be running the X82 in front of the 685 by 3 minutes which seems wasteful. That should be a PVR 4 and with the magic number of 15 that someone said, no doubt made up, the 38 is a PVR of 10 I believe so you'd have 14 for the 685 + 38 and a spare. Would work out. Then you'd have the 60 plates on the 1 or 12 and the rest to do the 1 or 12 and 22.
(16 Nov 2022, 1:50 pm)Storx Remember reading this last night wonder if they might come for the 685 now instead with them taking it over. Potentially could see the X82 scrapped completely (or dropped to hourly) with a short 685 from Newcastle to Throckley every hour. Otherwise they're going to be running the X82 in front of the 685 by 3 minutes which seems wasteful. That should be a PVR 4 and with the magic number of 15 that someone said, no doubt made up, the 38 is a PVR of 10 I believe so you'd have 14 for the 685 + 38 and a spare. Would work out. Then you'd have the 60 plates on the 1 or 12 and the rest to do the 1 or 12 and 22.
(16 Nov 2022, 1:50 pm)Storx Remember reading this last night wonder if they might come for the 685 now instead with them taking it over. Potentially could see the X82 scrapped completely (or dropped to hourly) with a short 685 from Newcastle to Throckley every hour. Otherwise they're going to be running the X82 in front of the 685 by 3 minutes which seems wasteful. That should be a PVR 4 and with the magic number of 15 that someone said, no doubt made up, the 38 is a PVR of 10 I believe so you'd have 14 for the 685 + 38 and a spare. Would work out. Then you'd have the 60 plates on the 1 or 12 and the rest to do the 1 or 12 and 22.i said 15 but that was only the number of unallocated new buses divided by the 9 depots that haven't yet confirmed anything.it is in no way an official number just an average of what we could expect
(16 Nov 2022, 1:50 pm)Storx Remember reading this last night wonder if they might come for the 685 now instead with them taking it over. Potentially could see the X82 scrapped completely (or dropped to hourly) with a short 685 from Newcastle to Throckley every hour. Otherwise they're going to be running the X82 in front of the 685 by 3 minutes which seems wasteful. That should be a PVR 4 and with the magic number of 15 that someone said, no doubt made up, the 38 is a PVR of 10 I believe so you'd have 14 for the 685 + 38 and a spare. Would work out. Then you'd have the 60 plates on the 1 or 12 and the rest to do the 1 or 12 and 22.i said 15 but that was only the number of unallocated new buses divided by the 9 depots that haven't yet confirmed anything.it is in no way an official number just an average of what we could expect
(16 Nov 2022, 8:28 pm)toward6931 i said 15 but that was only the number of unallocated new buses divided by the 9 depots that haven't yet confirmed anything.it is in no way an official number just an average of what we could expect
(16 Nov 2022, 8:28 pm)toward6931 i said 15 but that was only the number of unallocated new buses divided by the 9 depots that haven't yet confirmed anything.it is in no way an official number just an average of what we could expect
(16 Nov 2022, 9:08 pm)Storx Nah it was someone else who said it aswell but he's a bit unreliable let's say.ah no problems, i would be very disappointed if it was only 15, i think 25 should be a minimum but I'm not confident
(16 Nov 2022, 9:08 pm)Storx Nah it was someone else who said it aswell but he's a bit unreliable let's say.ah no problems, i would be very disappointed if it was only 15, i think 25 should be a minimum but I'm not confident
(16 Nov 2022, 9:17 pm)toward6931 ah no problems, i would be very disappointed if it was only 15, i think 25 should be a minimum but I'm not confidenthas anyone heard anymore on numbers for Newcastle yet?
(16 Nov 2022, 9:17 pm)toward6931 ah no problems, i would be very disappointed if it was only 15, i think 25 should be a minimum but I'm not confidenthas anyone heard anymore on numbers for Newcastle yet?
