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Jimmi



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02 Jun 2016, 6:23 am #101
(01 Jun 2016, 11:11 pm)James101 I believe the Jayline 211 ran through Hutton Henry in both directions and presumably servered the stops you mention in the hamlet of Sheraton. I believe when GNE took over they wanted to avoid the need for the bus to cross the carriageway of the A19 to head south so the route was revised away from there.
After this Arriva served Hutton Henry by sending Durham bound 22s via the village and Peterlee bound 246s the other way. This system meant Hutton Henry had a bus in each direction to Wingate but neither route needed to cross the A19. All that's left now is the single direction 246 which makes a journey to Wingate impractical.

Hutton Henry now has the Go North East 206 to Peterlee heading via Wingate on journeys towards Hutton Henry but not towards Peterlee. The Durham County Council supported service 58 operated by Scarlet Band runs through Hutton Henry on the opposite side of the road to the 206 on Durham bound journeys which runs via Wingate, so it is currently possible to get to/from Hutton Henry and Wingate although you have to change operator, that said you can't do Hutton Henry - Hartlepool but you can do Hartlepool - Hutton Henry.
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Jimmi
02 Jun 2016, 6:23 am #101

(01 Jun 2016, 11:11 pm)James101 I believe the Jayline 211 ran through Hutton Henry in both directions and presumably servered the stops you mention in the hamlet of Sheraton. I believe when GNE took over they wanted to avoid the need for the bus to cross the carriageway of the A19 to head south so the route was revised away from there.
After this Arriva served Hutton Henry by sending Durham bound 22s via the village and Peterlee bound 246s the other way. This system meant Hutton Henry had a bus in each direction to Wingate but neither route needed to cross the A19. All that's left now is the single direction 246 which makes a journey to Wingate impractical.

Hutton Henry now has the Go North East 206 to Peterlee heading via Wingate on journeys towards Hutton Henry but not towards Peterlee. The Durham County Council supported service 58 operated by Scarlet Band runs through Hutton Henry on the opposite side of the road to the 206 on Durham bound journeys which runs via Wingate, so it is currently possible to get to/from Hutton Henry and Wingate although you have to change operator, that said you can't do Hutton Henry - Hartlepool but you can do Hartlepool - Hutton Henry.

James101



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02 Jun 2016, 8:13 am #102
(02 Jun 2016, 6:23 am)Jimmi Hutton Henry now has the Go North East 206 to Peterlee heading via Wingate on journeys towards Hutton Henry but not towards Peterlee. The Durham County Council supported service 58 operated by Scarlet Band runs through Hutton Henry on the opposite side of the road to the 206 on Durham bound journeys which runs via Wingate, so it is currently possible to get to/from Hutton Henry and Wingate although you have to change operator, that said you can't do Hutton Henry - Hartlepool but you can do Hartlepool - Hutton Henry.


Ah I didn't realise the 58 went via Hutton Henry, and I forgot the 246 became the 206 under GNE operation.



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James101
02 Jun 2016, 8:13 am #102

(02 Jun 2016, 6:23 am)Jimmi Hutton Henry now has the Go North East 206 to Peterlee heading via Wingate on journeys towards Hutton Henry but not towards Peterlee. The Durham County Council supported service 58 operated by Scarlet Band runs through Hutton Henry on the opposite side of the road to the 206 on Durham bound journeys which runs via Wingate, so it is currently possible to get to/from Hutton Henry and Wingate although you have to change operator, that said you can't do Hutton Henry - Hartlepool but you can do Hartlepool - Hutton Henry.


Ah I didn't realise the 58 went via Hutton Henry, and I forgot the 246 became the 206 under GNE operation.



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Andreos1



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02 Jun 2016, 8:18 am #103
(01 Jun 2016, 11:19 pm)James101 It was your comments which got me thinking in the first place!


Like most councils, there's been a bit of talk from Hartlepool about the council taking back control of the buses. I find it a bit Pot Kettle Black as the council acted just as rashly as Stagecoach when they reduced their bus subsidy budget to £0 with no public consultation. Since they've frittered away money on things such as purchasing a property to stop it being used for asylum seekers. Losing a legal battle around keeping said asylum seekers. Finding a loss making cafe vanity project (cafe in the crem) and binning a town plan it cost over £1m to produce.

I'm against QCS in principle but I think Hartlepool would be a perfect case study for those in favour.



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Andreos1
02 Jun 2016, 8:18 am #103

(01 Jun 2016, 11:19 pm)James101 It was your comments which got me thinking in the first place!


Like most councils, there's been a bit of talk from Hartlepool about the council taking back control of the buses. I find it a bit Pot Kettle Black as the council acted just as rashly as Stagecoach when they reduced their bus subsidy budget to £0 with no public consultation. Since they've frittered away money on things such as purchasing a property to stop it being used for asylum seekers. Losing a legal battle around keeping said asylum seekers. Finding a loss making cafe vanity project (cafe in the crem) and binning a town plan it cost over £1m to produce.

I'm against QCS in principle but I think Hartlepool would be a perfect case study for those in favour.



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03 Jun 2016, 12:16 am #104
Stand L at MetroCentre Bus Station still has the old GNE 'Diamond' 43/44 signage, not sure if the opposite stand (F) has the same as I use E if going back the other way, probably does though. Haven't checked other stands for any old route brands/numbers.


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TEN 6083
03 Jun 2016, 12:16 am #104

Stand L at MetroCentre Bus Station still has the old GNE 'Diamond' 43/44 signage, not sure if the opposite stand (F) has the same as I use E if going back the other way, probably does though. Haven't checked other stands for any old route brands/numbers.


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BusLoverMum



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03 Jun 2016, 8:41 am #105
(03 Jun 2016, 12:16 am)TEN 6083 Stand L at MetroCentre Bus Station still has the old GNE 'Diamond' 43/44 signage, not sure if the opposite stand (F) has the same as I use E if going back the other way, probably does though. Haven't checked other stands for any old route brands/numbers.


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There's quite a few of the coloured stand signs there out of date where branding and route numbers have changed. Big'un thinks 47 is still displayed as "toonlink". 31 is still displayed. Can't remember any others for now.
BusLoverMum
03 Jun 2016, 8:41 am #105

(03 Jun 2016, 12:16 am)TEN 6083 Stand L at MetroCentre Bus Station still has the old GNE 'Diamond' 43/44 signage, not sure if the opposite stand (F) has the same as I use E if going back the other way, probably does though. Haven't checked other stands for any old route brands/numbers.


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There's quite a few of the coloured stand signs there out of date where branding and route numbers have changed. Big'un thinks 47 is still displayed as "toonlink". 31 is still displayed. Can't remember any others for now.

S813 FVK



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03 Jun 2016, 8:48 am #106
Yeah there are loads of stands at the Metrocentre that havent had the old details removed - logical to assume all the routes that changed in October have not been changed yet (given the 43/44 is still there)
S813 FVK
03 Jun 2016, 8:48 am #106

Yeah there are loads of stands at the Metrocentre that havent had the old details removed - logical to assume all the routes that changed in October have not been changed yet (given the 43/44 is still there)

MurdnunoC



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03 Jun 2016, 8:49 am #107
(03 Jun 2016, 8:41 am)BusLoverMum There's quite a few of the coloured stand signs there out of date where branding and route numbers have changed. Big'un thinks 47 is still displayed as "toonlink". 31 is still displayed. Can't remember any others for now.

Big'un is correct. All of the signage remains the same since the last GNE overhaul of routes serving Metrocentre. X43 is still dislayed as is 49B or C or whatever.
MurdnunoC
03 Jun 2016, 8:49 am #107

(03 Jun 2016, 8:41 am)BusLoverMum There's quite a few of the coloured stand signs there out of date where branding and route numbers have changed. Big'un thinks 47 is still displayed as "toonlink". 31 is still displayed. Can't remember any others for now.

Big'un is correct. All of the signage remains the same since the last GNE overhaul of routes serving Metrocentre. X43 is still dislayed as is 49B or C or whatever.

Andreos1



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03 Jun 2016, 8:51 am #108
(03 Jun 2016, 8:41 am)BusLoverMum There's quite a few of the coloured stand signs there out of date where branding and route numbers have changed. Big'un thinks 47 is still displayed as "toonlink". 31 is still displayed. Can't remember any others for now.

It is a while since I used the X66, but the old 'Centrelink' branding was above that stop last time I was waiting.

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Andreos1
03 Jun 2016, 8:51 am #108

(03 Jun 2016, 8:41 am)BusLoverMum There's quite a few of the coloured stand signs there out of date where branding and route numbers have changed. Big'un thinks 47 is still displayed as "toonlink". 31 is still displayed. Can't remember any others for now.

It is a while since I used the X66, but the old 'Centrelink' branding was above that stop last time I was waiting.


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03 Jun 2016, 5:22 pm #109
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Here is the ANE 602 sticker that still adorns Prudhoe Waterworld Bus Stop that I mentioned in a previous post


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TEN 6083
03 Jun 2016, 5:22 pm #109

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Here is the ANE 602 sticker that still adorns Prudhoe Waterworld Bus Stop that I mentioned in a previous post


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03 Jun 2016, 7:34 pm #110
I found one! Hamsterley Bank top, believe it was served by the 758 and 759, the old Consett - Chopwell route - I may be wrong.
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Jackamcardle
03 Jun 2016, 7:34 pm #110

I found one! Hamsterley Bank top, believe it was served by the 758 and 759, the old Consett - Chopwell route - I may be wrong.

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Tom



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03 Jun 2016, 8:26 pm #111
(03 Jun 2016, 7:34 pm)Jackamcardle I found one! Hamsterley Bank top, believe it was served by the 758 and 759, the old Consett - Chopwell route - I may be wrong.

Does the V9 not stop there?
Tom
03 Jun 2016, 8:26 pm #111

(03 Jun 2016, 7:34 pm)Jackamcardle I found one! Hamsterley Bank top, believe it was served by the 758 and 759, the old Consett - Chopwell route - I may be wrong.

Does the V9 not stop there?

S813 FVK



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03 Jun 2016, 8:28 pm #112
(03 Jun 2016, 8:26 pm)Tom Does the V9 not stop there?

Yes, it is a timing point of service V9.
S813 FVK
03 Jun 2016, 8:28 pm #112

(03 Jun 2016, 8:26 pm)Tom Does the V9 not stop there?

Yes, it is a timing point of service V9.

Tom



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03 Jun 2016, 8:29 pm #113
(03 Jun 2016, 8:28 pm)S813 FVK Yes, it is a timing point of service V9.

Thought it did
Tom
03 Jun 2016, 8:29 pm #113

(03 Jun 2016, 8:28 pm)S813 FVK Yes, it is a timing point of service V9.

Thought it did

MurdnunoC



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03 Jun 2016, 9:49 pm #114
There's a few in Consett if you know where to look.

Also, because the signs at Metrocentre have been mentioned, there are one or two around the vicinity of Stanley too.
MurdnunoC
03 Jun 2016, 9:49 pm #114

There's a few in Consett if you know where to look.

Also, because the signs at Metrocentre have been mentioned, there are one or two around the vicinity of Stanley too.

04 Jun 2016, 8:47 am #115
(03 Jun 2016, 8:28 pm)S813 FVK Yes, it is a timing point of service V9.

It wasn't registered as a stop on Google Maps, so I thought otherwise. I thought it used the one which the 45/46 use?
Jackamcardle
04 Jun 2016, 8:47 am #115

(03 Jun 2016, 8:28 pm)S813 FVK Yes, it is a timing point of service V9.

It wasn't registered as a stop on Google Maps, so I thought otherwise. I thought it used the one which the 45/46 use?

Dan

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04 Jun 2016, 9:02 am #116
(04 Jun 2016, 8:47 am)Jackamcardle It wasn't registered as a stop on Google Maps, so I thought otherwise. I thought it used the one which the 45/46 use?

Is that the one just before the Blackhall Mill river?

I think the 45E also stops there, in addition to the V9.
Dan
04 Jun 2016, 9:02 am #116

(04 Jun 2016, 8:47 am)Jackamcardle It wasn't registered as a stop on Google Maps, so I thought otherwise. I thought it used the one which the 45/46 use?

Is that the one just before the Blackhall Mill river?

I think the 45E also stops there, in addition to the V9.

BusLoverMum



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04 Jun 2016, 8:03 pm #117
The Cathedral bus stop is a bit out of date. The stop flag itself and the easily replaceable poster in the shelter. Not very clear photo, unfortunately.
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BusLoverMum
04 Jun 2016, 8:03 pm #117

The Cathedral bus stop is a bit out of date. The stop flag itself and the easily replaceable poster in the shelter. Not very clear photo, unfortunately.

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James101



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15 Aug 2016, 6:02 pm #118
Spotted this in Staffordshire.

Not of local interest, but still remarkably well preserved - and in use toady. 

Stevensons of Uttoxeter were at one time the largest independent bus operator in the country. They were sold to Arriva (British Bus) in 1994 which dates this sign as being at least 22 years old, though I suspect it'll be even older than that. Under Arriva ownership, two Opatre Vectas (1557 & 1558) were sent up from their Burton upon Trent operation to operate on Teesside in a fleet standardisation exercise.  

Toady Arriva are in the process of selling the much of the old Stevensons operation back to regional independent Midland Classic. Midland Classic have repainted a Scania in the livery on Stevensons as a nod to their history; maybe that bus and this stop should be introduced for a photo opportunity?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/je1791/27605314585/
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James101
15 Aug 2016, 6:02 pm #118

Spotted this in Staffordshire.

Not of local interest, but still remarkably well preserved - and in use toady. 

Stevensons of Uttoxeter were at one time the largest independent bus operator in the country. They were sold to Arriva (British Bus) in 1994 which dates this sign as being at least 22 years old, though I suspect it'll be even older than that. Under Arriva ownership, two Opatre Vectas (1557 & 1558) were sent up from their Burton upon Trent operation to operate on Teesside in a fleet standardisation exercise.  

Toady Arriva are in the process of selling the much of the old Stevensons operation back to regional independent Midland Classic. Midland Classic have repainted a Scania in the livery on Stevensons as a nod to their history; maybe that bus and this stop should be introduced for a photo opportunity?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/je1791/27605314585/

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Jimmi



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15 Aug 2016, 6:22 pm #119
Wasn't quite sure where to put this, but... I saw this on Dales & District Solo MX57CCF this afternoon. Interesting to see how their routes have changed and being cut over the last few years (bit miffed about the 79 being on there with it being a Hodgsons route).
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Notably MX57CCF still has the old Dales & District logos on the exterior.
Jimmi
15 Aug 2016, 6:22 pm #119

Wasn't quite sure where to put this, but... I saw this on Dales & District Solo MX57CCF this afternoon. Interesting to see how their routes have changed and being cut over the last few years (bit miffed about the 79 being on there with it being a Hodgsons route).

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Notably MX57CCF still has the old Dales & District logos on the exterior.

15 Aug 2016, 6:44 pm #120
The East Quayside buslink in Newcastle near Spillers Wharf now counts as the Q3 no longer uses it
NK53 TKT
15 Aug 2016, 6:44 pm #120

The East Quayside buslink in Newcastle near Spillers Wharf now counts as the Q3 no longer uses it

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