I know there's a football thread, but thought this is a thread that can stand alone from the Football Thread and be a conversation on it's own...
Mods: If this is best in the footy thread, please move it...
What is you guys opinion on the the corruption at FIFA, I personally hope they find something on Sepp Blatter and he gets lifted, I cannot stand the man and why he won't step down I don't know, this has been going on, on his watch for years and the fact some of his closest allies have been pinched by the Polis says a lot about who his friends are.
One arrest I was happy to see, was Jack Warner, that man is as bent as a 9 bob note, I very rarely ever agreed with Roy Keane, but the day he called Warner a clown, I agreed with him 100%, I hope Warner is hung out to dry.
Seems like UEFA will consider pulling out of FIFA, bringing European Clubs amd National Teams with them, would that work, how would a pull out work, what happens with Russia who are a UEFA Member and 2018 World Cup hosts, with no UEFA, I reckon the World Cup is worth a little less than 20 Benson and Hedges as UEFA provides 40% of the World Cup spots and UEFAs members are among the biggest teams in the world.
I personally believe FIFA is no longer fit for purpose anymore, losing the support of UEFA could be catostrophic and maybe the final nail in the coffin...
People have been mentioning that the 2018 and 2022 vote should be re-run and some have said England should be awarded 2018...
I personally don't believe we should go for the 2018 tournament if it was re-run, I would prefer to win it fair and square and with the controversy around the next 2 tournaments, we should keep well away, the whole thing stinks to high heaven and we should not get involved...
One more thing, I see our government is talking about football, the FA needs to tread carefully if they think the government is sticking there noses in, we could be banned from International Competition
Over to you guys now
Few things. I'll try and keep it brief.
FIFA is not going to change unless there's a top down reorganisation. The corruption is far too senior to just replace those posts. In my opinion, the entire governing body needs to go, and a new one elected only once a new and democratic structure is put in place. Is it right that the combined votes of Africa, Asia and South America can mean every UEFA country's vote won't make a difference to the end result?
What is FIFA without UEFA? The best and most watched leagues around the world are all in UEFA's remit. In my opinion, the feasibility of a complete UEFA carve-out from FIFA should be considered immediately.
(28 May 2015, 6:07 pm)Davie I too, don't like him, I think he's given football a bad name, I hope he gets found Guilty and sent downTo get Blatter I reckon it would need somebody to turn states evidence and lay him in that way
(28 May 2015, 6:10 pm)aureolin Few things. I'll try and keep it brief.
FIFA is not going to change unless there's a top down reorganisation. The corruption is far too senior to just replace those posts. In my opinion, the entire governing body needs to go, and a new one elected only once a new and democratic structure is put in place. Is it right that the combined votes of Africa, Asia and South America can mean every UEFA country's vote won't make a difference to the end result?
What is FIFA without UEFA? The best and most watched leagues around the world are all in UEFA's remit. In my opinion, the feasibility of a complete UEFA carve-out from FIFA should be considered immediately.
(28 May 2015, 6:07 pm)Davie I too, don't like him, I think he's given football a bad name, I hope he gets found Guilty and sent downTo get Blatter I reckon it would need somebody to turn states evidence and lay him in that way
(28 May 2015, 6:10 pm)aureolin Few things. I'll try and keep it brief.
FIFA is not going to change unless there's a top down reorganisation. The corruption is far too senior to just replace those posts. In my opinion, the entire governing body needs to go, and a new one elected only once a new and democratic structure is put in place. Is it right that the combined votes of Africa, Asia and South America can mean every UEFA country's vote won't make a difference to the end result?
What is FIFA without UEFA? The best and most watched leagues around the world are all in UEFA's remit. In my opinion, the feasibility of a complete UEFA carve-out from FIFA should be considered immediately.
Basically put Sepp Blatter is a clown would give Prince Philip a good run for his money in the art of saying stupid things
On Homosexuality
Homosexuals should refrain from any sexual activity for the duration[2022 World Cup in Qatar]
On Racism
Racism on the field can be dealt with, with a hand shake
I think Rio Ferdinand accused him of being racist, Blatter responded by posting a picture of himself with Tokyo Sexwale...Actually, is it just me or do people always, when accused of racism, always seem to say something like 'I have blacker friends' or 'how can I be racist, I always' as if that is solid proof of not being racist...
On women's football
Let's get women to play in different and more feminine garb than the men, in tighter shorts for example.
On John Terry shagging Wayne Bridge's Missus
If this had happened in let's say Latin countries then I think he would have been applauded.
On a crisis in football(in 2011)
Crisis? What is a crisis? Football is not in a crisis.(Really Sepp, are you in a parallel universe)
It is a shambles.
Rather than brazenly refusing to take the blame, Blatter should fall on his sword, rather than fight to live another day.
How long has he been in charge and how many times have we seen him shrug off controversy? Seemingly all of these things going on, without his knowledge?
Surely not having his eye on the ball, is reason enough?
(28 May 2015, 9:10 pm)Andreos1 It is a shambles.
Rather than brazenly refusing to take the blame, Blatter should fall on his sword, rather than fight to live another day.
How long has he been in charge and how many times have we seen him shrug off controversy? Seemingly all of these things going on, without his knowledge?
Surely not having his eye on the ball, is reason enough?
(28 May 2015, 9:10 pm)Andreos1 It is a shambles.
Rather than brazenly refusing to take the blame, Blatter should fall on his sword, rather than fight to live another day.
How long has he been in charge and how many times have we seen him shrug off controversy? Seemingly all of these things going on, without his knowledge?
Surely not having his eye on the ball, is reason enough?
(28 May 2015, 9:10 pm)Andreos1 It is a shambles.The people arrested are effectively his direct reports. There's gross negligence there at the very least.
Rather than brazenly refusing to take the blame, Blatter should fall on his sword, rather than fight to live another day.
How long has he been in charge and how many times have we seen him shrug off controversy? Seemingly all of these things going on, without his knowledge?
Surely not having his eye on the ball, is reason enough?
(28 May 2015, 9:10 pm)Andreos1 It is a shambles.The people arrested are effectively his direct reports. There's gross negligence there at the very least.
Rather than brazenly refusing to take the blame, Blatter should fall on his sword, rather than fight to live another day.
How long has he been in charge and how many times have we seen him shrug off controversy? Seemingly all of these things going on, without his knowledge?
Surely not having his eye on the ball, is reason enough?
(28 May 2015, 9:53 pm)aureolin The people arrested are effectively his direct reports. There's gross negligence there at the very least.
(28 May 2015, 9:53 pm)aureolin The people arrested are effectively his direct reports. There's gross negligence there at the very least.
(29 May 2015, 5:21 pm)aureolin Another 4 years of Blatter is like waking up to another 5 years of Tory government... oh wait...
(29 May 2015, 5:21 pm)aureolin Another 4 years of Blatter is like waking up to another 5 years of Tory government... oh wait...
(29 May 2015, 5:23 pm)Michael No doubt more corruption during that time!
Well let's hope the Euro decide to pull out of the world cup..........
(29 May 2015, 5:21 pm)aureolin Another 4 years of Blatter is like waking up to another 5 years of Tory government... oh wait...
(29 May 2015, 5:23 pm)Michael No doubt more corruption during that time!
Well let's hope the Euro decide to pull out of the world cup..........
I see the government are wading into the Sepp Blatter debate now...
They need to be careful about how much 'help' they give the FA, if it looks like the government are too involved, FIFA could suspend the FA from World Football...
I personally think we, all, as fans should start writing letters to newspapers, our MP'S(as long as they won't interfere too much) and the FA need to be a loud voice in the Corridors of UEFA to get a boycott together...
(01 Jun 2015, 3:41 pm)MrFozz I see the government are wading into the Sepp Blatter debate now...
They need to be careful about how much 'help' they give the FA, if it looks like the government are too involved, FIFA could suspend the FA from World Football...
I personally think we, all, as fans should start writing letters to newspapers, our MP'S(as long as they won't interfere too much) and the FA need to be a loud voice in the Corridors of UEFA to get a boycott together...
(01 Jun 2015, 3:41 pm)MrFozz I see the government are wading into the Sepp Blatter debate now...
They need to be careful about how much 'help' they give the FA, if it looks like the government are too involved, FIFA could suspend the FA from World Football...
I personally think we, all, as fans should start writing letters to newspapers, our MP'S(as long as they won't interfere too much) and the FA need to be a loud voice in the Corridors of UEFA to get a boycott together...
(01 Jun 2015, 7:04 pm)MurdnunoC Any boycott is pointless unless those involved are prepared to either go through with their threat or accept the consequences the boycott may bring.
This whole thing is political. While FIFA could suspend the FA from world football, the same result is achieved by any proposed boycott, if enacted, irrespective of whomever leads the charge unless compromise can be reached. The boycott won't work unless those involved accept the possible consequences of withdrawal or suspension from world football. Withdrawal is the threat and suspension is the consequence. If no compromise is possible, those are the terms.
(01 Jun 2015, 7:04 pm)MurdnunoC Any boycott is pointless unless those involved are prepared to either go through with their threat or accept the consequences the boycott may bring.
This whole thing is political. While FIFA could suspend the FA from world football, the same result is achieved by any proposed boycott, if enacted, irrespective of whomever leads the charge unless compromise can be reached. The boycott won't work unless those involved accept the possible consequences of withdrawal or suspension from world football. Withdrawal is the threat and suspension is the consequence. If no compromise is possible, those are the terms.
(01 Jun 2015, 7:09 pm)Andreos1 Whilst FIFA may threaten expulsion or suspension, I imagine the glare from sponsors may tie their hands a bit.
Imagine Nikes reaction if Brazil are suspended?
Adidas if Germany boycott?
Money talks
(01 Jun 2015, 7:09 pm)Andreos1 Whilst FIFA may threaten expulsion or suspension, I imagine the glare from sponsors may tie their hands a bit.Much as I would like to see a boycott, I just don't think it is going to happen anytime soon, it would need to be led by UEFA by Platini himself, but going by what I have read in the last few days, The French and Spanish will have something about that, they voted for Septic, also, the Russians ain't going to boycott there own World Cup...
Imagine Nikes reaction if Brazil are suspended?
Adidas if Germany boycott?
Money talks
(01 Jun 2015, 7:09 pm)Andreos1 Whilst FIFA may threaten expulsion or suspension, I imagine the glare from sponsors may tie their hands a bit.Much as I would like to see a boycott, I just don't think it is going to happen anytime soon, it would need to be led by UEFA by Platini himself, but going by what I have read in the last few days, The French and Spanish will have something about that, they voted for Septic, also, the Russians ain't going to boycott there own World Cup...
Imagine Nikes reaction if Brazil are suspended?
Adidas if Germany boycott?
Money talks
