(24 Nov 2015, 6:05 pm)R852 PRG What's the deal with 34401 and you? Did you once engage in an intimate relationship with the vehicle?
(24 Nov 2015, 6:05 pm)R852 PRG What's the deal with 34401 and you? Did you once engage in an intimate relationship with the vehicle?
(24 Nov 2015, 7:30 pm)Dan Aye, like most other passengers..! I'd take a brand new bus with Wi-Fi and power sockets over an ancient bus without these features any day of the week.
(24 Nov 2015, 7:30 pm)Dan Aye, like most other passengers..! I'd take a brand new bus with Wi-Fi and power sockets over an ancient bus without these features any day of the week.
(24 Nov 2015, 8:17 pm)Robin Tait So mrnut85 what are they going to do with 34401 if they are not scraping it or using it on service.
(24 Nov 2015, 8:17 pm)Robin Tait So mrnut85 what are they going to do with 34401 if they are not scraping it or using it on service.
A question of general interest - what is the logic behind the numbering of the ALX300s? I'm interested in those buses in particular as I quite like them. Why is it that 03/53-registered examples are numbered 220xx as an example, whereas T-reg and other pre-2000 examples are 222xx and 226xx. Also; some of the 223xx and 224xx batch are as new as 2005 and 2006. Anybody able to explain it to me? Nothing appears to be in order, in terms of age and the registrations of the vehicles.
(26 Nov 2015, 4:57 pm)R852 PRG A question of general interest - what is the logic behind the numbering of the ALX300s? I'm interested in those buses in particular as I quite like them. Why is it that 03/53-registered examples are numbered 220xx as an example, whereas T-reg and other pre-2000 examples are 222xx and 226xx. Also; some of the 223xx and 224xx batch are as new as 2005 and 2006. Anybody able to explain it to me? Nothing appears to be in order, in terms of age and the registrations of the vehicles.
(26 Nov 2015, 4:57 pm)R852 PRG A question of general interest - what is the logic behind the numbering of the ALX300s? I'm interested in those buses in particular as I quite like them. Why is it that 03/53-registered examples are numbered 220xx as an example, whereas T-reg and other pre-2000 examples are 222xx and 226xx. Also; some of the 223xx and 224xx batch are as new as 2005 and 2006. Anybody able to explain it to me? Nothing appears to be in order, in terms of age and the registrations of the vehicles.
(26 Nov 2015, 4:57 pm)R852 PRG A question of general interest - what is the logic behind the numbering of the ALX300s? I'm interested in those buses in particular as I quite like them. Why is it that 03/53-registered examples are numbered 220xx as an example, whereas T-reg and other pre-2000 examples are 222xx and 226xx. Also; some of the 223xx and 224xx batch are as new as 2005 and 2006. Anybody able to explain it to me? Nothing appears to be in order, in terms of age and the registrations of the vehicles.
(26 Nov 2015, 4:57 pm)R852 PRG A question of general interest - what is the logic behind the numbering of the ALX300s? I'm interested in those buses in particular as I quite like them. Why is it that 03/53-registered examples are numbered 220xx as an example, whereas T-reg and other pre-2000 examples are 222xx and 226xx. Also; some of the 223xx and 224xx batch are as new as 2005 and 2006. Anybody able to explain it to me? Nothing appears to be in order, in terms of age and the registrations of the vehicles.
(26 Nov 2015, 5:13 pm)GX03 SVC All the UK Bus operations have the same standard fleet number so there's probably most of 220xx-226xx across the UK. I think Stagecoach put these vehicles into random numbers before having the "by delivery date" policy of fleet numbers. Kuyoyo or someone like that will be able to explain further I think.
(26 Nov 2015, 5:13 pm)GX03 SVC All the UK Bus operations have the same standard fleet number so there's probably most of 220xx-226xx across the UK. I think Stagecoach put these vehicles into random numbers before having the "by delivery date" policy of fleet numbers. Kuyoyo or someone like that will be able to explain further I think.
(26 Nov 2015, 6:02 pm)Peppermint Pete When Stagecoach UK Bus introduced the 5 Digit Fleet Numbering system in 2003 the 22 was simply used as a type identifier, so for example 22 is used for the MAN/ALX300s. When the system was introduced where possible the 22 prefix was where possible used in front in the existing Fleet Number with the existing operator, so far example pre 2003 Busways had MAN/ALX300s 451 - 495 so were simply renumbered 22451-22495, so that the Fleet Number would still match/resemble the Registration Number, Teesside has 656-675 so these were re-numbered 22656-22675, once numbers where matched with existing fleet numbers in who evers fleet it was any unused numbers where then just added to fill wherever the gaps where.
Much of the Manchester Fleet started at S101TRJ etc. then into the MVM's & TND's so were simply numbered 22101 or 22203 etc. This made it easier than completely renumbering existing fleets in a way that bared no resemblance to their original number, so example 22209 (T209 TND) in Manchester could suddenly have become 22296 simply because it was the 296th MAN/ALX 300 in the Fleet.
Where possible big blocks of Fleet numbers were simply given the 22 prefix, but where Fleet numbers were duplicated or in smaller batches a random number would be chosen to fit in with the 22 scheme.
An example of this happening is that Teesside had a batch of Volvo B10Ms numbered 643-652 (M543-M552SPY), so in normal circumstances would have been simply numbered 20543-20552, however as there was also a larger batch of numbers in the P5xxESA series these vehicles were given priority becoming 20551 for example, whilst the Teesside ones where numbered 20243-20252 as 243-252 were NOT being used elsewhere.
This is why later vehicles carry earlier numbers i.e 22011 etc. as they were unused numbers that where available when the numbering scheme was introduced in 2003.
(26 Nov 2015, 6:02 pm)Peppermint Pete When Stagecoach UK Bus introduced the 5 Digit Fleet Numbering system in 2003 the 22 was simply used as a type identifier, so for example 22 is used for the MAN/ALX300s. When the system was introduced where possible the 22 prefix was where possible used in front in the existing Fleet Number with the existing operator, so far example pre 2003 Busways had MAN/ALX300s 451 - 495 so were simply renumbered 22451-22495, so that the Fleet Number would still match/resemble the Registration Number, Teesside has 656-675 so these were re-numbered 22656-22675, once numbers where matched with existing fleet numbers in who evers fleet it was any unused numbers where then just added to fill wherever the gaps where.
Much of the Manchester Fleet started at S101TRJ etc. then into the MVM's & TND's so were simply numbered 22101 or 22203 etc. This made it easier than completely renumbering existing fleets in a way that bared no resemblance to their original number, so example 22209 (T209 TND) in Manchester could suddenly have become 22296 simply because it was the 296th MAN/ALX 300 in the Fleet.
Where possible big blocks of Fleet numbers were simply given the 22 prefix, but where Fleet numbers were duplicated or in smaller batches a random number would be chosen to fit in with the 22 scheme.
An example of this happening is that Teesside had a batch of Volvo B10Ms numbered 643-652 (M543-M552SPY), so in normal circumstances would have been simply numbered 20543-20552, however as there was also a larger batch of numbers in the P5xxESA series these vehicles were given priority becoming 20551 for example, whilst the Teesside ones where numbered 20243-20252 as 243-252 were NOT being used elsewhere.
This is why later vehicles carry earlier numbers i.e 22011 etc. as they were unused numbers that where available when the numbering scheme was introduced in 2003.
(26 Nov 2015, 4:57 pm)R852 PRG A question of general interest - what is the logic behind the numbering of the ALX300s? I'm interested in those buses in particular as I quite like them. Why is it that 03/53-registered examples are numbered 220xx as an example, whereas T-reg and other pre-2000 examples are 222xx and 226xx. Also; some of the 223xx and 224xx batch are as new as 2005 and 2006. Anybody able to explain it to me? Nothing appears to be in order, in terms of age and the registrations of the vehicles.
(26 Nov 2015, 4:57 pm)R852 PRG A question of general interest - what is the logic behind the numbering of the ALX300s? I'm interested in those buses in particular as I quite like them. Why is it that 03/53-registered examples are numbered 220xx as an example, whereas T-reg and other pre-2000 examples are 222xx and 226xx. Also; some of the 223xx and 224xx batch are as new as 2005 and 2006. Anybody able to explain it to me? Nothing appears to be in order, in terms of age and the registrations of the vehicles.
(26 Nov 2015, 6:10 pm)R852 PRG Thanks for your reply, this is all very informative. The numbering system makes more sense now. Appears to be a case of transferring existing numbers over to a new system and then filling the gaps with any additions to the fleet.
(26 Nov 2015, 6:10 pm)R852 PRG Thanks for your reply, this is all very informative. The numbering system makes more sense now. Appears to be a case of transferring existing numbers over to a new system and then filling the gaps with any additions to the fleet.
(26 Nov 2015, 6:10 pm)R852 PRG Thanks for your reply, this is all very informative. The numbering system makes more sense now. Appears to be a case of transferring existing numbers over to a new system and then filling the gaps with any additions to the fleet.
(26 Nov 2015, 6:10 pm)R852 PRG Thanks for your reply, this is all very informative. The numbering system makes more sense now. Appears to be a case of transferring existing numbers over to a new system and then filling the gaps with any additions to the fleet.
Sunderland depot wins a top national award
A Sunderland bus depot has won national acclaim as it drives forward plans to improve further.
The Stagecoach North East site at the Wheatsheaf won Gold in the Top National Bus Depot contest.
http://www.sun-fm.com/news/local/1805802...nal-award/