(16 Jan 2016, 7:31 pm)MurdnunoC Didn't even notice the 'swoops' to be honest - just the colour schemes.
(16 Jan 2016, 7:36 pm)LeeCalder Granted, the Coast and Country is eye catching, and looks pretty decent. But, the "Lime" brand was established, people recognised it. As we both know, the late former Go North East Managing Director, Peter Huntley who I believe was truly inspirational in the way he turned Go North East around stated that brands should be refreshed every five years, however, refreshing and changing the name are two completely different things. People are far more likely to say "Get the Lime bus" than "Get the Coast and Country bus" because chances are, you'll forget Coast and Country, because it isn't catchy.
indiGO isn't indiGo, that is my first gripe with that brand. It would be more acceptable if it was actually Indigo and not bright pink. Again, it has had a major upgrade which is for the customers benefit, however, again the East Durham brand was established, maybe it could have been spruced up a bit?
(16 Jan 2016, 7:40 pm)DanPicken The Highwayman had a background rather than naming a brand after the color and sticking Arrow after.
(16 Jan 2016, 7:31 pm)MurdnunoC Didn't even notice the 'swoops' to be honest - just the colour schemes.
(16 Jan 2016, 7:36 pm)LeeCalder Granted, the Coast and Country is eye catching, and looks pretty decent. But, the "Lime" brand was established, people recognised it. As we both know, the late former Go North East Managing Director, Peter Huntley who I believe was truly inspirational in the way he turned Go North East around stated that brands should be refreshed every five years, however, refreshing and changing the name are two completely different things. People are far more likely to say "Get the Lime bus" than "Get the Coast and Country bus" because chances are, you'll forget Coast and Country, because it isn't catchy.
indiGO isn't indiGo, that is my first gripe with that brand. It would be more acceptable if it was actually Indigo and not bright pink. Again, it has had a major upgrade which is for the customers benefit, however, again the East Durham brand was established, maybe it could have been spruced up a bit?
(16 Jan 2016, 7:40 pm)DanPicken The Highwayman had a background rather than naming a brand after the color and sticking Arrow after.
(16 Jan 2016, 7:45 pm)Dan I'm willing to bet that most others didn't notice them either, which is why it's no longer common practice!
There are instances where it's probably more commercially advantageous to completely change the look and name of a brand, though. You've really got to look at the whole picture, if you're going to be critical of decisions made by people who are a lot more experienced in marketing than you or I!
If the company's old brand identity has a tarnished reputation, it may wish to ditch it completely in favour of something totally new. A new brand identity allows for a clean slate, with brand new buses which are a lot more reliable. This may entice new customers to the route, and encourage growth on this route, which will ultimately provide a return on the new vehicles.
What was the background? The fact that these services used Whickham Highway?
(16 Jan 2016, 7:45 pm)S813 FVK I don't see anybody complaining about the Red Arrows. Yet...Because it was an original brand but more and more are popping up the 20 will be the Purple Arrow on the Streetlite's.
(16 Jan 2016, 7:45 pm)Dan I'm willing to bet that most others didn't notice them either, which is why it's no longer common practice!
There are instances where it's probably more commercially advantageous to completely change the look and name of a brand, though. You've really got to look at the whole picture, if you're going to be critical of decisions made by people who are a lot more experienced in marketing than you or I!
If the company's old brand identity has a tarnished reputation, it may wish to ditch it completely in favour of something totally new. A new brand identity allows for a clean slate, with brand new buses which are a lot more reliable. This may entice new customers to the route, and encourage growth on this route, which will ultimately provide a return on the new vehicles.
What was the background? The fact that these services used Whickham Highway?
(16 Jan 2016, 7:45 pm)S813 FVK I don't see anybody complaining about the Red Arrows. Yet...Because it was an original brand but more and more are popping up the 20 will be the Purple Arrow on the Streetlite's.
(16 Jan 2016, 7:50 pm)DanPicken Because it was an original brand but more and more are popping up the 20 will be the Purple Arrow on the Streetlite's.
(16 Jan 2016, 7:50 pm)DanPicken Because it was an original brand but more and more are popping up the 20 will be the Purple Arrow on the Streetlite's.
The Highwayman did actually have a meaning.
I am lead to believe it dates back to a story of robberies in the Lobley Hill area in the late 1800. The people who committed these robberies were known as Highwaymen.
Hence why on one of the old Highwayman timetables, it says "At £2.20, it's a steal"
(16 Jan 2016, 7:50 pm)DanPicken It had a back story related to The Highwayman where as Green Arrow only refers to the color.
(16 Jan 2016, 7:50 pm)DanPicken It had a back story related to The Highwayman where as Green Arrow only refers to the color.
(16 Jan 2016, 7:36 pm)LeeCalder indiGO isn't indiGo, that is my first gripe with that brand. It would be more acceptable if it was actually Indigo and not bright pink. Again, it has had a major upgrade which is for the customers benefit, however, again the East Durham brand was established, maybe it could have been spruced up a bit?
(16 Jan 2016, 7:36 pm)LeeCalder indiGO isn't indiGo, that is my first gripe with that brand. It would be more acceptable if it was actually Indigo and not bright pink. Again, it has had a major upgrade which is for the customers benefit, however, again the East Durham brand was established, maybe it could have been spruced up a bit?
(16 Jan 2016, 7:54 pm)LeeCalder The Highwayman did actually have a meaning.
I am lead to believe it dates back to a story of robberies in the Lobley Hill area in the late 1800. The people who committed these robberies were known as Highwaymen.
Hence why on one of the old Highwayman timetables, it says "At £2.20, it's a steal"
(16 Jan 2016, 7:54 pm)LeeCalder The Highwayman did actually have a meaning.
I am lead to believe it dates back to a story of robberies in the Lobley Hill area in the late 1800. The people who committed these robberies were known as Highwaymen.
Hence why on one of the old Highwayman timetables, it says "At £2.20, it's a steal"
(16 Jan 2016, 7:54 pm)LeeCalder The Highwayman did actually have a meaning.
I am lead to believe it dates back to a story of robberies in the Lobley Hill area in the late 1800. The people who committed these robberies were known as Highwaymen.
Hence why on one of the old Highwayman timetables, it says "At £2.20, it's a steal"
(16 Jan 2016, 7:54 pm)LeeCalder The Highwayman did actually have a meaning.
I am lead to believe it dates back to a story of robberies in the Lobley Hill area in the late 1800. The people who committed these robberies were known as Highwaymen.
Hence why on one of the old Highwayman timetables, it says "At £2.20, it's a steal"
(16 Jan 2016, 6:06 pm)LeeCalder We went for a drive around the back of Deptford last week, and noticed a lot of the Cats Fast ;-) Solar's are in a right mess....
Upgrade needed?
(16 Jan 2016, 6:06 pm)LeeCalder We went for a drive around the back of Deptford last week, and noticed a lot of the Cats Fast ;-) Solar's are in a right mess....
Upgrade needed?
(16 Jan 2016, 7:45 pm)S813 FVK I don't see anybody complaining about the Red Arrows. Yet...
(16 Jan 2016, 7:54 pm)LeeCalder The Highwayman did actually have a meaning.
I am lead to believe it dates back to a story of robberies in the Lobley Hill area in the late 1800. The people who committed these robberies were known as Highwaymen.
Hence why on one of the old Highwayman timetables, it says "At £2.20, it's a steal"
(16 Jan 2016, 7:45 pm)S813 FVK I don't see anybody complaining about the Red Arrows. Yet...
(16 Jan 2016, 7:54 pm)LeeCalder The Highwayman did actually have a meaning.
I am lead to believe it dates back to a story of robberies in the Lobley Hill area in the late 1800. The people who committed these robberies were known as Highwaymen.
Hence why on one of the old Highwayman timetables, it says "At £2.20, it's a steal"
I know people are kind of taking the piss out of what I've just stated about The Highwayman, but there is a local history to the place. I believe the story is fictional, however it clearly had something to do with the brand, otherwise it wouldn't have been said in a timetable. Which I'm now on the hunt for now.
(16 Jan 2016, 7:56 pm)Adrian 'indiGo' is being used as a play on words, promoting links to a, b and c. Painting it the colour Indigo is a difficult one, given that several buses from the network cross paths with the Prince Bishops, which is relatively the same colour. It's not great to have two brands running on one corridor, with neither standing out from the other.
Trent's 'Rainbow One' branded vehicles aren't painted in colours of the rainbow? Nor is the service number '1'. Disappointingly, I've not seen many teal mangos either.
(16 Jan 2016, 7:56 pm)Adrian 'indiGo' is being used as a play on words, promoting links to a, b and c. Painting it the colour Indigo is a difficult one, given that several buses from the network cross paths with the Prince Bishops, which is relatively the same colour. It's not great to have two brands running on one corridor, with neither standing out from the other.
Trent's 'Rainbow One' branded vehicles aren't painted in colours of the rainbow? Nor is the service number '1'. Disappointingly, I've not seen many teal mangos either.
(16 Jan 2016, 8:07 pm)LeeCalder I know people are kind of taking the piss out of what I've just stated about The Highwayman, but there is a local history to the place. I believe the story is fictional, however it clearly had something to do with the brand, otherwise it wouldn't have been said in a timetable. Which I'm now on the hunt for now.
(16 Jan 2016, 8:07 pm)LeeCalder I know people are kind of taking the piss out of what I've just stated about The Highwayman, but there is a local history to the place. I believe the story is fictional, however it clearly had something to do with the brand, otherwise it wouldn't have been said in a timetable. Which I'm now on the hunt for now.
(16 Jan 2016, 8:08 pm)LeeCalder What does this discussion have to do with TrentBarton? Nothing at all....
The Rainbow 1 has been an established brand for the last 15 or so years, and does actually incorporate the colours on the Rainbow One logo...
(16 Jan 2016, 8:08 pm)LeeCalder What does this discussion have to do with TrentBarton? Nothing at all....
The Rainbow 1 has been an established brand for the last 15 or so years, and does actually incorporate the colours on the Rainbow One logo...
Well, the 'its a steal' bit is true!
(16 Jan 2016, 8:07 pm)LeeCalder I know people are kind of taking the piss out of what I've just stated about The Highwayman, but there is a local history to the place. I believe the story is fictional, however it clearly had something to do with the brand, otherwise it wouldn't have been said in a timetable. Which I'm now on the hunt for now.
(16 Jan 2016, 8:07 pm)LeeCalder I know people are kind of taking the piss out of what I've just stated about The Highwayman, but there is a local history to the place. I believe the story is fictional, however it clearly had something to do with the brand, otherwise it wouldn't have been said in a timetable. Which I'm now on the hunt for now.
(16 Jan 2016, 8:16 pm)DanPicken Found it "Our \highwayman Switcha ticket lets you hop on any of our buses at Gateshead Interchange or Metrocentre to continue your journey to Newcastle. Buy it on your Highwayman bus and at just £2 a ticket, it's a steal!" 7th November 2010 edition of Highwayman Timetable.
(16 Jan 2016, 8:16 pm)DanPicken Found it "Our \highwayman Switcha ticket lets you hop on any of our buses at Gateshead Interchange or Metrocentre to continue your journey to Newcastle. Buy it on your Highwayman bus and at just £2 a ticket, it's a steal!" 7th November 2010 edition of Highwayman Timetable.
