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Davie

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04 Apr 2016, 10:51 pm #21
(04 Apr 2016, 10:46 pm)Andreos1 More than the 721 Davie lad.
There was about 3 routes merged together when they created the 28.

Chester - Strange Villa.
Strange Villa - Eighton Lodge.
Eighton Lodge - Newcastle. (The only bit in common with the 721).

Just off the top of my head, wasn't there the 721, 722, 725, 726, 728, 729, 777? Possible even a couple more.
Davie
04 Apr 2016, 10:51 pm #21

(04 Apr 2016, 10:46 pm)Andreos1 More than the 721 Davie lad.
There was about 3 routes merged together when they created the 28.

Chester - Strange Villa.
Strange Villa - Eighton Lodge.
Eighton Lodge - Newcastle. (The only bit in common with the 721).

Just off the top of my head, wasn't there the 721, 722, 725, 726, 728, 729, 777? Possible even a couple more.

Michael



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04 Apr 2016, 10:55 pm #22
(04 Apr 2016, 10:49 pm)Tom The green arrow could be next in line for investment I think - the Solars on there are some of the worst so possibly some Streetlites for them.

Angel is also a good shout and then the B5s can go on either the Coaster or Crusader releasing the Citaros for the Tynedale Express, Cats Fast X35 and Waggonway.

Can also see the 2s getting new buses as the Versas on there are deffo some of the worst - Versas could then possibly go on the 82 and 82A or if enough also the 85 and 86.Solos wouldn't be big enough for the 82s I don't think.

Then finally maybe a couple of Solos for the 18 to get rid of the MPDs. Wouldn't be many left if Versas also replaced them on the 85/86.

Where would the Omnicties go from the Coaster?

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
04 Apr 2016, 10:55 pm #22

(04 Apr 2016, 10:49 pm)Tom The green arrow could be next in line for investment I think - the Solars on there are some of the worst so possibly some Streetlites for them.

Angel is also a good shout and then the B5s can go on either the Coaster or Crusader releasing the Citaros for the Tynedale Express, Cats Fast X35 and Waggonway.

Can also see the 2s getting new buses as the Versas on there are deffo some of the worst - Versas could then possibly go on the 82 and 82A or if enough also the 85 and 86.Solos wouldn't be big enough for the 82s I don't think.

Then finally maybe a couple of Solos for the 18 to get rid of the MPDs. Wouldn't be many left if Versas also replaced them on the 85/86.

Where would the Omnicties go from the Coaster?


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Jimmi



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04 Apr 2016, 10:58 pm #23
(04 Apr 2016, 10:55 pm)Michael Where would the Omnicties go from the Coaster?
If that happened, you could probably go: Waggonway, Fast Cats then whatever with the remaining examples.

Can't see them going on the 1.

Just me who wouldn't be totally surprised if the Volvo B5LH's stayed on the 21?
Jimmi
04 Apr 2016, 10:58 pm #23

(04 Apr 2016, 10:55 pm)Michael Where would the Omnicties go from the Coaster?
If that happened, you could probably go: Waggonway, Fast Cats then whatever with the remaining examples.

Can't see them going on the 1.

Just me who wouldn't be totally surprised if the Volvo B5LH's stayed on the 21?

Andreos1



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04 Apr 2016, 11:00 pm #24
(04 Apr 2016, 10:51 pm)Davie Just off the top of my head, wasn't there the 721, 722, 725, 726, 728, 729, 777? Possible even a couple more.

Loads more 7xx services.
Off the top of my head - along Durham and Old Durham Road you had the 709, 723, 733 and 735. Also the 231.
There was also the OK 724 and 727.
United had the X46 in addition to their shared services.
Edited 04 Apr 2016, 11:02 pm by Andreos1.

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Andreos1
04 Apr 2016, 11:00 pm #24

(04 Apr 2016, 10:51 pm)Davie Just off the top of my head, wasn't there the 721, 722, 725, 726, 728, 729, 777? Possible even a couple more.

Loads more 7xx services.
Off the top of my head - along Durham and Old Durham Road you had the 709, 723, 733 and 735. Also the 231.
There was also the OK 724 and 727.
United had the X46 in addition to their shared services.


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Ambassador



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04 Apr 2016, 11:01 pm #25
(04 Apr 2016, 10:58 pm)Jimmi Just me who wouldn't be totally surprised if the Volvo B5LH's stayed on the 21?

No I'm with you on that, but they need a refurb and they sound absolutely awful. 

The 21 is impossible to get wrong...a decent reliable double decker and a decent weekend frequency. I say impossible, until the Hybrids, GNE did a fantastic job of hugely screwing it up
Edited 04 Apr 2016, 11:02 pm by Ambassador.

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Ambassador
04 Apr 2016, 11:01 pm #25

(04 Apr 2016, 10:58 pm)Jimmi Just me who wouldn't be totally surprised if the Volvo B5LH's stayed on the 21?

No I'm with you on that, but they need a refurb and they sound absolutely awful. 

The 21 is impossible to get wrong...a decent reliable double decker and a decent weekend frequency. I say impossible, until the Hybrids, GNE did a fantastic job of hugely screwing it up


Wistfully stuck in the 90s

Michael



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04 Apr 2016, 11:02 pm #26
(04 Apr 2016, 10:58 pm)Jimmi If that happened, you could probably go: Waggonway, Fast Cats then whatever with the remaining examples.

Can't see them going on the 1.

Just me who wouldn't be totally surprised if the Volvo B5LH's stayed on the 21?

To me, the Omnicities wouldn't be able cope on the X35.

Edit: Wrong word!
Edited 04 Apr 2016, 11:04 pm by Michael.

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Michael
04 Apr 2016, 11:02 pm #26

(04 Apr 2016, 10:58 pm)Jimmi If that happened, you could probably go: Waggonway, Fast Cats then whatever with the remaining examples.

Can't see them going on the 1.

Just me who wouldn't be totally surprised if the Volvo B5LH's stayed on the 21?

To me, the Omnicities wouldn't be able cope on the X35.

Edit: Wrong word!


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Andreos1



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04 Apr 2016, 11:03 pm #27
(04 Apr 2016, 11:02 pm)Michael To me, the Omnicities couldn't cope on the X35.

Stick them on the 21 Wink

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Andreos1
04 Apr 2016, 11:03 pm #27

(04 Apr 2016, 11:02 pm)Michael To me, the Omnicities couldn't cope on the X35.

Stick them on the 21 Wink


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Michael



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04 Apr 2016, 11:04 pm #28
(04 Apr 2016, 11:01 pm)Ambassador No I'm with you on that, but they need a refurb and they sound absolutely awful. 

The 21 is impossible to get wrong...a decent reliable double decker and a decent weekend frequency. I say impossible, until the Hybrids, GNE did a fantastic job of hugely screwing it up

The 21 needs Streetdecks Wink

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
04 Apr 2016, 11:04 pm #28

(04 Apr 2016, 11:01 pm)Ambassador No I'm with you on that, but they need a refurb and they sound absolutely awful. 

The 21 is impossible to get wrong...a decent reliable double decker and a decent weekend frequency. I say impossible, until the Hybrids, GNE did a fantastic job of hugely screwing it up

The 21 needs Streetdecks Wink


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Jimmi



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04 Apr 2016, 11:04 pm #29
(04 Apr 2016, 11:02 pm)Michael To me, the Omnicities couldn't cope on the X35.
I think they would do fine on the X35, wouldn't be any worse than the Solar's currently used on the X35.
Jimmi
04 Apr 2016, 11:04 pm #29

(04 Apr 2016, 11:02 pm)Michael To me, the Omnicities couldn't cope on the X35.
I think they would do fine on the X35, wouldn't be any worse than the Solar's currently used on the X35.

Michael



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04 Apr 2016, 11:05 pm #30
(04 Apr 2016, 11:03 pm)Andreos1 Stick them on the 21 Wink

Wink, why not.. Its not like they coped the last time! Wink

Edited my last post.. Used the wrong words.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
04 Apr 2016, 11:05 pm #30

(04 Apr 2016, 11:03 pm)Andreos1 Stick them on the 21 Wink

Wink, why not.. Its not like they coped the last time! Wink

Edited my last post.. Used the wrong words.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Ambassador



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04 Apr 2016, 11:06 pm #31
(04 Apr 2016, 11:03 pm)Andreos1 Stick them on the 21 Wink

Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin  

I've always wondered if whoever made the decisions on buses for the 21...Omnicities and Vykings was moved onto something less demanding (in charge of the stationary cupboard perhaps)

(04 Apr 2016, 11:04 pm)Michael The 21 needs Streetdecks Wink

Just not with tables....seats seats and more seats.
Edited 04 Apr 2016, 11:07 pm by Ambassador.

Wistfully stuck in the 90s
Ambassador
04 Apr 2016, 11:06 pm #31

(04 Apr 2016, 11:03 pm)Andreos1 Stick them on the 21 Wink

Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin  

I've always wondered if whoever made the decisions on buses for the 21...Omnicities and Vykings was moved onto something less demanding (in charge of the stationary cupboard perhaps)

(04 Apr 2016, 11:04 pm)Michael The 21 needs Streetdecks Wink

Just not with tables....seats seats and more seats.


Wistfully stuck in the 90s

Michael



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04 Apr 2016, 11:07 pm #32
(04 Apr 2016, 11:04 pm)Jimmi I think they would do fine on the X35, wouldn't be any worse than the Solar's currently used on the X35.

They could, GNE could give it ago, no harm in them doing that.

Wouldn't mind Omnicities in Sunderland more often...

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
04 Apr 2016, 11:07 pm #32

(04 Apr 2016, 11:04 pm)Jimmi I think they would do fine on the X35, wouldn't be any worse than the Solar's currently used on the X35.

They could, GNE could give it ago, no harm in them doing that.

Wouldn't mind Omnicities in Sunderland more often...


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Tom



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04 Apr 2016, 11:11 pm #33
(04 Apr 2016, 10:55 pm)Michael Where would the Omnicties go from the Coaster?

I'm not sure but they are fine on the Coaster at the minute so the B5s would be best on the Crusader.
Tom
04 Apr 2016, 11:11 pm #33

(04 Apr 2016, 10:55 pm)Michael Where would the Omnicties go from the Coaster?

I'm not sure but they are fine on the Coaster at the minute so the B5s would be best on the Crusader.

Jimmi



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04 Apr 2016, 11:11 pm #34
(04 Apr 2016, 11:07 pm)Michael They could, GNE could give it ago, no harm in them doing that.

Wouldn't mind Omnicities in Sunderland more often...
They manage the 50 alright, so I can't see where they would be an issue on the X35 as I'd say the two routes have a similar nature to them. Should do fine on the 28/28A, at least if you put them on the Waggonway's, Davie would still be able to see them on a regular basis
Jimmi
04 Apr 2016, 11:11 pm #34

(04 Apr 2016, 11:07 pm)Michael They could, GNE could give it ago, no harm in them doing that.

Wouldn't mind Omnicities in Sunderland more often...
They manage the 50 alright, so I can't see where they would be an issue on the X35 as I'd say the two routes have a similar nature to them. Should do fine on the 28/28A, at least if you put them on the Waggonway's, Davie would still be able to see them on a regular basis

Ambassador



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04 Apr 2016, 11:19 pm #35
(04 Apr 2016, 11:11 pm)Jimmi They manage the 50 alright, so I can't see where they would be an issue on the X35 as I'd say the two routes have a similar nature to them. Should do fine on the 28/28A, at least if you put them on the Waggonway's, Davie would still be able to see them on a regular basis

The way Low Fell is at the moment, even a DAF reappearing from beyond the grave would suit me on the Waggonway.

I'll go for a MCW Metrobus to displace the B5s

Wistfully stuck in the 90s
Ambassador
04 Apr 2016, 11:19 pm #35

(04 Apr 2016, 11:11 pm)Jimmi They manage the 50 alright, so I can't see where they would be an issue on the X35 as I'd say the two routes have a similar nature to them. Should do fine on the 28/28A, at least if you put them on the Waggonway's, Davie would still be able to see them on a regular basis

The way Low Fell is at the moment, even a DAF reappearing from beyond the grave would suit me on the Waggonway.

I'll go for a MCW Metrobus to displace the B5s


Wistfully stuck in the 90s

Tom



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04 Apr 2016, 11:24 pm #36
(04 Apr 2016, 11:19 pm)Ambassador The way Low Fell is at the moment, even a DAF reappearing from beyond the grave would suit me on the Waggonway.

I'll go for a MCW Metrobus to displace the B5s

What's going on in Low Fell? The 1s always seem to be running together recently.
Tom
04 Apr 2016, 11:24 pm #36

(04 Apr 2016, 11:19 pm)Ambassador The way Low Fell is at the moment, even a DAF reappearing from beyond the grave would suit me on the Waggonway.

I'll go for a MCW Metrobus to displace the B5s

What's going on in Low Fell? The 1s always seem to be running together recently.

Davie

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04 Apr 2016, 11:26 pm #37
(04 Apr 2016, 11:11 pm)Jimmi They manage the 50 alright, so I can't see where they would be an issue on the X35 as I'd say the two routes have a similar nature to them. Should do fine on the 28/28A, at least if you put them on the Waggonway's, Davie would still be able to see them on a regular basis

Yippie! Angry
Davie
04 Apr 2016, 11:26 pm #37

(04 Apr 2016, 11:11 pm)Jimmi They manage the 50 alright, so I can't see where they would be an issue on the X35 as I'd say the two routes have a similar nature to them. Should do fine on the 28/28A, at least if you put them on the Waggonway's, Davie would still be able to see them on a regular basis

Yippie! Angry

Jimmi



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04 Apr 2016, 11:31 pm #38
I can't see the Omnicitys being replaced on the 1 in the 2016/2017 financial year, I'd say it's more likely to be in the 2017/2018 financial year, especially with them recently being fitted with WiFi. I'd the most likely replacement on the 1 would be new StreetLite's.
Edited 04 Apr 2016, 11:37 pm by Jimmi.
Jimmi
04 Apr 2016, 11:31 pm #38

I can't see the Omnicitys being replaced on the 1 in the 2016/2017 financial year, I'd say it's more likely to be in the 2017/2018 financial year, especially with them recently being fitted with WiFi. I'd the most likely replacement on the 1 would be new StreetLite's.

Ambassador



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05 Apr 2016, 8:10 am #39
(04 Apr 2016, 11:24 pm)Tom What's going on in Low Fell? The 1s always seem to be running together recently.

Gateshead Council are carrying out quality corridor improvements. Lots of roadworks that probably should have been held back until the bypass was completed

Wistfully stuck in the 90s
Ambassador
05 Apr 2016, 8:10 am #39

(04 Apr 2016, 11:24 pm)Tom What's going on in Low Fell? The 1s always seem to be running together recently.

Gateshead Council are carrying out quality corridor improvements. Lots of roadworks that probably should have been held back until the bypass was completed


Wistfully stuck in the 90s

Andreos1



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05 Apr 2016, 9:43 am #40
(04 Apr 2016, 11:06 pm)Ambassador
Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin  

I've always wondered if whoever made the decisions on buses for the 21...Omnicities and Vykings was moved onto something less demanding (in charge of the stationary cupboard perhaps)



Just not with tables....seats seats and more seats.

They have been shifted over to the 'Sunderland Service Changes' department Big Grin

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
05 Apr 2016, 9:43 am #40

(04 Apr 2016, 11:06 pm)Ambassador
Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin  

I've always wondered if whoever made the decisions on buses for the 21...Omnicities and Vykings was moved onto something less demanding (in charge of the stationary cupboard perhaps)



Just not with tables....seats seats and more seats.

They have been shifted over to the 'Sunderland Service Changes' department Big Grin


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

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