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Josh

06 Apr 2016, 3:27 am #1

Hey I've noticed when I'm on the X1 I've been hearing this beeping sound whenever it gets out of Gateshead Interchange and about to go over the Tyne Bridge heading into Newcastle.

Anyone know what it is?

example in this YouTube video at 0:39 (http://youtu.be/SEg2gv-JOtU)

Edited 06 Apr 2016, 3:33 am by Josh. Edit Reason: Auto-Correct mistake (using iPhone 5S)

Josh

06 Apr 2016, 3:27 am #1

Dan

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06 Apr 2016, 4:29 am #2

(06 Apr 2016, 3:27 am)digital_devilz Hey I've noticed when I'm on the X1 I've been hearing this beeping sound whenever it gets out of Gateshead Interchange and about to go over the Tyne Bridge heading into Newcastle.

Anyone know what it is?

example in this YouTube video at 0:39 (http://youtu.be/SEg2gv-JOtU)

That's the low bridge warning sound. If a bus is within a certain radius of a low bridge, there will be a warning sound of some sort (there's various types depending on the bus - some beep, some shout 'WARNING', etc).

This serves as an alert to the driver, and makes them aware of the potential hazard.

Dan

06 Apr 2016, 4:29 am #2

(06 Apr 2016, 3:27 am)digital_devilz Hey I've noticed when I'm on the X1 I've been hearing this beeping sound whenever it gets out of Gateshead Interchange and about to go over the Tyne Bridge heading into Newcastle.

Anyone know what it is?

example in this YouTube video at 0:39 (http://youtu.be/SEg2gv-JOtU)

Josh

06 Apr 2016, 1:19 pm #3

(06 Apr 2016, 4:29 am)Dan That's the low bridge warning sound. If a bus is within a certain radius of a low bridge, there will be a warning sound of some sort (there's various types depending on the bus - some beep, some shout 'WARNING', etc).

This serves as an alert to the driver, and makes them aware of the potential hazard.

Oh, I've seen them on other services GNE services before. They are made by Hanover if I'm not mistaken.

Josh

06 Apr 2016, 1:19 pm #3

(06 Apr 2016, 4:29 am)Dan That's the low bridge warning sound. If a bus is within a certain radius of a low bridge, there will be a warning sound of some sort (there's various types depending on the bus - some beep, some shout 'WARNING', etc).

This serves as an alert to the driver, and makes them aware of the potential hazard.

Oh, I've seen them on other services GNE services before. They are made by Hanover if I'm not mistaken.

citaro5284

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06 Apr 2016, 1:52 pm #4

(06 Apr 2016, 1:19 pm)digital_devilz Oh, I've seen them on other services GNE services before. They are made by Hanover if I'm not mistaken.

The ones on the newer vehicles are not, they are made by Timespace.

citaro5284

06 Apr 2016, 1:52 pm #4

(06 Apr 2016, 1:19 pm)digital_devilz Oh, I've seen them on other services GNE services before. They are made by Hanover if I'm not mistaken.

The ones on the newer vehicles are not, they are made by Timespace.

L469 YVK

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16 Apr 2016, 11:17 pm #5

Beeping Noise = 6001-6007; 6049-6083
"STOP, LOW BRIDGE" = 6084-6121

L469 YVK

16 Apr 2016, 11:17 pm #5

Beeping Noise = 6001-6007; 6049-6083
"STOP, LOW BRIDGE" = 6084-6121

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16 Apr 2016, 11:46 pm #6

Happens on the Angel examples all the time, either at afore mentioned Wellington St or entering the underpass at the end of the Tyne Bridge...incredibly annoying

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16 Apr 2016, 11:46 pm #6

Happens on the Angel examples all the time, either at afore mentioned Wellington St or entering the underpass at the end of the Tyne Bridge...incredibly annoying

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17 Apr 2016, 9:10 am #7

Same for TENs around Metrocentre and somewhere else en route.

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northern156

17 Apr 2016, 9:10 am #7

Same for TENs around Metrocentre and somewhere else en route.

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17 Apr 2016, 10:14 am #8

(17 Apr 2016, 9:10 am)northern156 Same for TENs around Metrocentre and somewhere else en route.

They do it also on Redheugh Bridge under the signs and under the Bridge on Railway Street by Times Square Car Park

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17 Apr 2016, 10:14 am #8

(17 Apr 2016, 9:10 am)northern156 Same for TENs around Metrocentre and somewhere else en route.

They do it also on Redheugh Bridge under the signs and under the Bridge on Railway Street by Times Square Car Park

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17 Apr 2016, 10:17 am #9

The Fab 56, Volvo B9TL's also beep when they approach the Wearmouth Bridge in Sunderland.

Edited 17 Apr 2016, 10:17 am by Michael.

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Michael

17 Apr 2016, 10:17 am #9

The Fab 56, Volvo B9TL's also beep when they approach the Wearmouth Bridge in Sunderland.

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citaro5284

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17 Apr 2016, 11:11 am #10

This all proves the system works then!

citaro5284

17 Apr 2016, 11:11 am #10

This all proves the system works then!

dannygee

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17 Apr 2016, 11:51 am #11

Happens on the 309/310 at cradlewell any reason theres no low bridge around?

dannygee

17 Apr 2016, 11:51 am #11

Happens on the 309/310 at cradlewell any reason theres no low bridge around?

BJ10VUS

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17 Apr 2016, 12:07 pm #12

(17 Apr 2016, 11:51 am)dannygee Happens on the 309/310 at cradlewell any reason theres no low bridge around?

It could be for Benton Bank, which goes under the Coast Road as the bus is passing over Jesmond Dene?

BJ10VUS

17 Apr 2016, 12:07 pm #12

(17 Apr 2016, 11:51 am)dannygee Happens on the 309/310 at cradlewell any reason theres no low bridge around?

It could be for Benton Bank, which goes under the Coast Road as the bus is passing over Jesmond Dene?

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17 Apr 2016, 2:19 pm #13

(17 Apr 2016, 12:07 pm)BJ10VUS It could be for Benton Bank, which goes under the Coast Road as the bus is passing over Jesmond Dene?

Correct, IIRC from driving under said Bridge, there is about 12ft of space. They also used to do it on Byker Bridge too, and I think Deckers may do it on the 93/94 when they go around Old Fold Estate.

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17 Apr 2016, 2:19 pm #13

(17 Apr 2016, 12:07 pm)BJ10VUS It could be for Benton Bank, which goes under the Coast Road as the bus is passing over Jesmond Dene?

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17 Apr 2016, 5:18 pm #14

(17 Apr 2016, 11:11 am)Mcitaro5284 This all proves the system works then!

Say it was a new driver and he took evasive action to avoid the false warning at the end of the Tyne Bridge, surely that's not proof it works?

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17 Apr 2016, 5:18 pm #14

(17 Apr 2016, 11:11 am)Mcitaro5284 This all proves the system works then!

Say it was a new driver and he took evasive action to avoid the false warning at the end of the Tyne Bridge, surely that's not proof it works?

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17 Apr 2016, 5:22 pm #15

(17 Apr 2016, 5:18 pm)Ambassador Say it was a new driver and he took evasive action to avoid the false warning at the end of the Tyne Bridge, surely that's not proof it works?

Surely the system is in place to alert drivers to take caution, rather than to take evasive action to avoid a low bridge which isn't even on the route of that service..?

I would anticipate that drivers are informed of the various systems which are in place on buses in the training process or the mentoring process.

Dan

17 Apr 2016, 5:22 pm #15

(17 Apr 2016, 5:18 pm)Ambassador Say it was a new driver and he took evasive action to avoid the false warning at the end of the Tyne Bridge, surely that's not proof it works?

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17 Apr 2016, 6:19 pm #16

(17 Apr 2016, 5:22 pm)Dan Surely the system is in place to alert drivers to take caution, rather than to take evasive action to avoid a low bridge which isn't even on the route of that service..?

I would anticipate that drivers are informed of the various systems which are in place on buses in the training process or the mentoring process.

Surely if the bus fits, it will always fit; so no need no take caution? I'm not aware of any bridges that shrink or buses that suddenly grow taller.

I'm not sold on this system being a good thing. either the noise from the false alarms becomes distraction or the opposite where the drivers hear it so much they begin not to take notice; even when the alarm would be useful.

James101

17 Apr 2016, 6:19 pm #16

(17 Apr 2016, 5:22 pm)Dan Surely the system is in place to alert drivers to take caution, rather than to take evasive action to avoid a low bridge which isn't even on the route of that service..?

I would anticipate that drivers are informed of the various systems which are in place on buses in the training process or the mentoring process.

citaro5284

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17 Apr 2016, 6:38 pm #17

(17 Apr 2016, 6:19 pm)James101 Surely if the bus fits, it will always fit; so no need no take caution? I'm not aware of any bridges that shrink or buses that suddenly grow taller.

I'm not sold on this system being a good thing. either the noise from the false alarms becomes distraction or the opposite where the drivers hear it so much they begin not to take notice; even when the alarm would be useful.

A bus is sent on a diversion by lets say the Police due to a road closure (which has happened), and they did not think of a low bridge somewhere on the diversion, surely its a good thing to have something like Low Bridge Warning fitted.

I cannot believe that people think having such a device fitted is a waste of time.

citaro5284

17 Apr 2016, 6:38 pm #17

(17 Apr 2016, 6:19 pm)James101 Surely if the bus fits, it will always fit; so no need no take caution? I'm not aware of any bridges that shrink or buses that suddenly grow taller.

I'm not sold on this system being a good thing. either the noise from the false alarms becomes distraction or the opposite where the drivers hear it so much they begin not to take notice; even when the alarm would be useful.

James101

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17 Apr 2016, 6:43 pm #18

(17 Apr 2016, 6:38 pm)citaro5284 A bus is sent on a diversion by lets say the Police due to a road closure (which has happened), and they did not think of a low bridge somewhere on the diversion, surely its a good thing to have something like Low Bridge Warning fitted.

I cannot believe that people think having such a device fitted is a waste of time.

A device which was effective in the way you describe would be fantastic.

My issue is with the device currently used which appears to be startled by so many false alarms which undermines it's effectiveness.

James101

17 Apr 2016, 6:43 pm #18

(17 Apr 2016, 6:38 pm)citaro5284 A bus is sent on a diversion by lets say the Police due to a road closure (which has happened), and they did not think of a low bridge somewhere on the diversion, surely its a good thing to have something like Low Bridge Warning fitted.

I cannot believe that people think having such a device fitted is a waste of time.

Dan

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17 Apr 2016, 6:47 pm #19

(17 Apr 2016, 6:43 pm)James101 A device which was effective in the way you describe would be fantastic.

My issue is with the device currently used which appears to be startled by so many false alarms which undermines it's effectiveness.

DaveyBowyer was incorrect in suggesting that the "Red Kite" branded Volvo B9TLs announce "Stop - low bridge!" These say something along the lines of "Danger - low bridge. 400 yards ahead"

I think this is more effective. With older systems, you don't know how far away the bridge is, to know whether it's something worth taking caution for.

Dan

17 Apr 2016, 6:47 pm #19

(17 Apr 2016, 6:43 pm)James101 A device which was effective in the way you describe would be fantastic.

My issue is with the device currently used which appears to be startled by so many false alarms which undermines it's effectiveness.

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17 Apr 2016, 6:58 pm #20

(17 Apr 2016, 5:22 pm)Dan Surely the system is in place to alert drivers to take caution, rather than to take evasive action to avoid a low bridge which isn't even on the route of that service..?

I would anticipate that drivers are informed of the various systems which are in place on buses in the training process or the mentoring process.

The training covers some of the low bridges you may encounter whilst driving. The low bridges near to the Metrocentre are certainly covered and your attention is drawn to one or two others you may pass on test.

(17 Apr 2016, 6:38 pm)citaro5284 I cannot believe that people think having such a device fitted is a waste of time.

I know. As this thread primarily concerns the 'beeping' on the X1, I think its useful to examine the low bridges the service may encounter on-route. Off the top of my head, I can think of one which is the example near the Tyne Bridge. If the few 'beeps' near the Tyne Bridge prove to be an insurmountable distraction to the driver, then I'd suggest he or she is probably in the wrong profession as there numerous things more far more distracting than a sound warning of a potentially dangerous obstacle.

Edited 17 Apr 2016, 6:59 pm by MurdnunoC.

MurdnunoC

17 Apr 2016, 6:58 pm #20

(17 Apr 2016, 5:22 pm)Dan Surely the system is in place to alert drivers to take caution, rather than to take evasive action to avoid a low bridge which isn't even on the route of that service..?

I would anticipate that drivers are informed of the various systems which are in place on buses in the training process or the mentoring process.

(17 Apr 2016, 6:38 pm)citaro5284 I cannot believe that people think having such a device fitted is a waste of time.

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