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08 Jan 2022, 10:10 pm #2,021
Before the X22 was suspended would an extention from Metrocentre into Newcastle have worked.

I had ideas for a M27, M52 & M58 aswell.

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ASX_Terranova
08 Jan 2022, 10:10 pm #2,021

Before the X22 was suspended would an extention from Metrocentre into Newcastle have worked.

I had ideas for a M27, M52 & M58 aswell.


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MurdnunoC



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08 Jan 2022, 10:22 pm #2,022
(08 Jan 2022, 10:10 pm)ASX_Terranova Before the X22 was suspended would an extention from Metrocentre into Newcastle have worked.

I had ideas for a M27, M52 & M58 aswell.

Nope. And why would it? The journey is already covered by the 21 and X21. Any extension via the Metrocentre would add to the journey time hence no-one would use it.
MurdnunoC
08 Jan 2022, 10:22 pm #2,022

(08 Jan 2022, 10:10 pm)ASX_Terranova Before the X22 was suspended would an extention from Metrocentre into Newcastle have worked.

I had ideas for a M27, M52 & M58 aswell.

Nope. And why would it? The journey is already covered by the 21 and X21. Any extension via the Metrocentre would add to the journey time hence no-one would use it.

Jimmi



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08 Jan 2022, 10:27 pm #2,023
(08 Jan 2022, 10:10 pm)ASX_Terranova Before the X22 was suspended would an extention from Metrocentre into Newcastle have worked.

I had ideas for a M27, M52 & M58 aswell.
Not really any call for variations and/or extentions of services to the Metrocentre when services like the X66 already covers the link between Gateshead and the Metrocentre, be just pointless duplication and would require more resources.

Not enough time in the schedule to do Newcastle on the X22 and pointless really offering a slower journey to the 21/X21 heading to the same location and then duplicating everything else from the Metrocentre.
Jimmi
08 Jan 2022, 10:27 pm #2,023

(08 Jan 2022, 10:10 pm)ASX_Terranova Before the X22 was suspended would an extention from Metrocentre into Newcastle have worked.

I had ideas for a M27, M52 & M58 aswell.
Not really any call for variations and/or extentions of services to the Metrocentre when services like the X66 already covers the link between Gateshead and the Metrocentre, be just pointless duplication and would require more resources.

Not enough time in the schedule to do Newcastle on the X22 and pointless really offering a slower journey to the 21/X21 heading to the same location and then duplicating everything else from the Metrocentre.

08 Jan 2022, 11:46 pm #2,024
(08 Jan 2022, 10:27 pm)Jimmi Not really any call for variations and/or extentions of services to the Metrocentre when services like the X66 already covers the link between Gateshead and the Metrocentre, be just pointless duplication and would require more resources.

Not enough time in the schedule to do Newcastle on the X22 and pointless really offering a slower journey to the 21/X21 heading to the same location and then duplicating everything else from the Metrocentre.
Would it work for an independent though?
A while back I had an idea for special ticket called an M-Boost, which bolted-on a extra 50p-£1 addition to a single or return provided the passenger changed onto a Metrocentre Bound Service Suggestion at the Galleries.

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ASX_Terranova
08 Jan 2022, 11:46 pm #2,024

(08 Jan 2022, 10:27 pm)Jimmi Not really any call for variations and/or extentions of services to the Metrocentre when services like the X66 already covers the link between Gateshead and the Metrocentre, be just pointless duplication and would require more resources.

Not enough time in the schedule to do Newcastle on the X22 and pointless really offering a slower journey to the 21/X21 heading to the same location and then duplicating everything else from the Metrocentre.
Would it work for an independent though?
A while back I had an idea for special ticket called an M-Boost, which bolted-on a extra 50p-£1 addition to a single or return provided the passenger changed onto a Metrocentre Bound Service Suggestion at the Galleries.


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MurdnunoC



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09 Jan 2022, 8:28 am #2,025
(08 Jan 2022, 11:46 pm)ASX_Terranova Would it work for an independent though?
A while back I had an idea for special ticket called an M-Boost, which bolted-on a extra 50p-£1 addition to a single or return provided the passenger changed onto a Metrocentre Bound Service Suggestion at the Galleries.

How would it work?

You're suggesting an imaginary ticket for an imaginary independent who has to have an imaginary network either side of the places you wish your imaginary service to serve. All of this in a thread supposedly for GNE service suggestions.

More fantasy. Along with dogs, will unicorns be allowed to travel on this service too, providing there isn't already one on board?

The sooner this thread is closed the better.
MurdnunoC
09 Jan 2022, 8:28 am #2,025

(08 Jan 2022, 11:46 pm)ASX_Terranova Would it work for an independent though?
A while back I had an idea for special ticket called an M-Boost, which bolted-on a extra 50p-£1 addition to a single or return provided the passenger changed onto a Metrocentre Bound Service Suggestion at the Galleries.

How would it work?

You're suggesting an imaginary ticket for an imaginary independent who has to have an imaginary network either side of the places you wish your imaginary service to serve. All of this in a thread supposedly for GNE service suggestions.

More fantasy. Along with dogs, will unicorns be allowed to travel on this service too, providing there isn't already one on board?

The sooner this thread is closed the better.

Storx



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09 Jan 2022, 9:33 am #2,026
Talking about Durham to Metro Centre buses imo they should route it on this route as a trial as a 'use it or lose it' bus route - https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Durham/5...45!1m0!3e0

It's only 5 minutes longer than the X22 current route and misses the A1. Annfield Plain to Dipton have been very vocal about not having a bus to the Metro Centre recently so in theory they should be getting on in their droves. If they don't use it then withdraw and they can just claim they tried which is good PR either way. If it works then it works. It also gives Burnhope and Maiden Law a bus to Durham.
Storx
09 Jan 2022, 9:33 am #2,026

Talking about Durham to Metro Centre buses imo they should route it on this route as a trial as a 'use it or lose it' bus route - https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Durham/5...45!1m0!3e0

It's only 5 minutes longer than the X22 current route and misses the A1. Annfield Plain to Dipton have been very vocal about not having a bus to the Metro Centre recently so in theory they should be getting on in their droves. If they don't use it then withdraw and they can just claim they tried which is good PR either way. If it works then it works. It also gives Burnhope and Maiden Law a bus to Durham.

Rob44



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09 Jan 2022, 10:02 am #2,027
(09 Jan 2022, 9:33 am)Storx Talking about Durham to Metro Centre buses imo they should route it on this route as a trial as a 'use it or lose it' bus route - https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Durham/5...45!1m0!3e0

It's only 5 minutes longer than the X22 current route and misses the A1. Annfield Plain to Dipton have been very vocal about not having a bus to the Metro Centre recently so in theory they should be getting on in their droves. If they don't use it then withdraw and they can just claim they tried which is good PR either way. If it works then it works. It also gives Burnhope and Maiden Law a bus to Durham.

i think this is a good idea.  Northumbria tried this with a service where i used to live as everyone was complain there was no connection to kingston park form the villages of dinnington, brinswick, wideopen and hazlerigg. Think in its first week it was well used but then was cancelled after several months of make a loss due to low passenger numbers. Thin k the 101 start after this to give hazlerigg and, dingginton and wideopen the connection aging but missed out brunswick
Rob44
09 Jan 2022, 10:02 am #2,027

(09 Jan 2022, 9:33 am)Storx Talking about Durham to Metro Centre buses imo they should route it on this route as a trial as a 'use it or lose it' bus route - https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Durham/5...45!1m0!3e0

It's only 5 minutes longer than the X22 current route and misses the A1. Annfield Plain to Dipton have been very vocal about not having a bus to the Metro Centre recently so in theory they should be getting on in their droves. If they don't use it then withdraw and they can just claim they tried which is good PR either way. If it works then it works. It also gives Burnhope and Maiden Law a bus to Durham.

i think this is a good idea.  Northumbria tried this with a service where i used to live as everyone was complain there was no connection to kingston park form the villages of dinnington, brinswick, wideopen and hazlerigg. Think in its first week it was well used but then was cancelled after several months of make a loss due to low passenger numbers. Thin k the 101 start after this to give hazlerigg and, dingginton and wideopen the connection aging but missed out brunswick

09 Jan 2022, 11:46 am #2,028
(09 Jan 2022, 9:33 am)Storx Talking about Durham to Metro Centre buses imo they should route it on this route as a trial as a 'use it or lose it' bus route - https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Durham/5...45!1m0!3e0

It's only 5 minutes longer than the X22 current route and misses the A1. Annfield Plain to Dipton have been very vocal about not having a bus to the Metro Centre recently so in theory they should be getting on in their droves. If they don't use it then withdraw and they can just claim they tried which is good PR either way. If it works then it works. It also gives Burnhope and Maiden Law a bus to Durham.

Would it share any of its route with this?
http://asxterranova.home.blog/2020/09/10...xpress-x7/

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ASX_Terranova
09 Jan 2022, 11:46 am #2,028

(09 Jan 2022, 9:33 am)Storx Talking about Durham to Metro Centre buses imo they should route it on this route as a trial as a 'use it or lose it' bus route - https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Durham/5...45!1m0!3e0

It's only 5 minutes longer than the X22 current route and misses the A1. Annfield Plain to Dipton have been very vocal about not having a bus to the Metro Centre recently so in theory they should be getting on in their droves. If they don't use it then withdraw and they can just claim they tried which is good PR either way. If it works then it works. It also gives Burnhope and Maiden Law a bus to Durham.

Would it share any of its route with this?
http://asxterranova.home.blog/2020/09/10...xpress-x7/


Twitter: @ASX_Terranova
Blog: https://asxterranova.home.blog/

Storx



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09 Jan 2022, 1:53 pm #2,029
(09 Jan 2022, 10:02 am)Rob44 i think this is a good idea.  Northumbria tried this with a service where i used to live as everyone was complain there was no connection to kingston park form the villages of dinnington, brinswick, wideopen and hazlerigg. Think in its first week it was well used but then was cancelled after several months of make a loss due to low passenger numbers. Thin k the 101 start after this to give hazlerigg and, dingginton and wideopen the connection aging but missed out brunswick

Yeah there's been a few of them over the years, none of them have lasted really though mind I do believe X20 originally was one from Ashington which has lasted.

(09 Jan 2022, 11:46 am)ASX_Terranova Would it share any of its route with this?
http://asxterranova.home.blog/2020/09/10...xpress-x7/

Not really it runs in the opposite direction pretty much yours going North East then North West whereas mine goes North West then North East.

tbh. The section between Durham and Annfield Plain will carry fresh air so changed them a bit.

X44 (X-Lines) - Lanchester to Newcastle via Metro Centre - https://www.google.com/maps/dir/54.82085...96!1m0!3e0 (Hourly)

6 - Current route to Burnopfield (30 Mins), then current route to Burnhope only (Hourly)

7 - Stanley to Gateshead via Tanobie and Lobley Hill - https://www.google.com/maps/dir/54.86812...c5!1m0!3e0 (Hourly)

X70/X71 - Restored to every 30 minutes between Burnopfield and Newcastle rather than the useless 20/40 atm.

X72 - Withdrawn

Restores most links, provides a quicker service from Stanley to Gateshead, Annfield Plain/Dipton to Metro Centre get their bus route back. Quickish service from Lanchester to Newcastle. Sunniside Estates get a bus to Gateshead to connect to new routes.
Storx
09 Jan 2022, 1:53 pm #2,029

(09 Jan 2022, 10:02 am)Rob44 i think this is a good idea.  Northumbria tried this with a service where i used to live as everyone was complain there was no connection to kingston park form the villages of dinnington, brinswick, wideopen and hazlerigg. Think in its first week it was well used but then was cancelled after several months of make a loss due to low passenger numbers. Thin k the 101 start after this to give hazlerigg and, dingginton and wideopen the connection aging but missed out brunswick

Yeah there's been a few of them over the years, none of them have lasted really though mind I do believe X20 originally was one from Ashington which has lasted.

(09 Jan 2022, 11:46 am)ASX_Terranova Would it share any of its route with this?
http://asxterranova.home.blog/2020/09/10...xpress-x7/

Not really it runs in the opposite direction pretty much yours going North East then North West whereas mine goes North West then North East.

tbh. The section between Durham and Annfield Plain will carry fresh air so changed them a bit.

X44 (X-Lines) - Lanchester to Newcastle via Metro Centre - https://www.google.com/maps/dir/54.82085...96!1m0!3e0 (Hourly)

6 - Current route to Burnopfield (30 Mins), then current route to Burnhope only (Hourly)

7 - Stanley to Gateshead via Tanobie and Lobley Hill - https://www.google.com/maps/dir/54.86812...c5!1m0!3e0 (Hourly)

X70/X71 - Restored to every 30 minutes between Burnopfield and Newcastle rather than the useless 20/40 atm.

X72 - Withdrawn

Restores most links, provides a quicker service from Stanley to Gateshead, Annfield Plain/Dipton to Metro Centre get their bus route back. Quickish service from Lanchester to Newcastle. Sunniside Estates get a bus to Gateshead to connect to new routes.

09 Jan 2022, 3:04 pm #2,030
(09 Jan 2022, 1:53 pm)Storx Yeah there's been a few of them over the years, none of them have lasted really though mind I do believe X20 originally was one from Ashington which has lasted.


Not really it runs in the opposite direction pretty much yours going North East then North West whereas mine goes North West then North East.

tbh. The section between Durham and Annfield Plain will carry fresh air so changed them a bit.

X44 (X-Lines) - Lanchester to Newcastle via Metro Centre - https://www.google.com/maps/dir/54.82085...96!1m0!3e0 (Hourly)

6 - Current route to Burnopfield (30 Mins), then current route to Burnhope only (Hourly)

7 - Stanley to Gateshead via Tanobie and Lobley Hill - https://www.google.com/maps/dir/54.86812...c5!1m0!3e0 (Hourly)

X70/X71 - Restored to every 30 minutes between Burnopfield and Newcastle rather than the useless 20/40 atm.

X72 - Withdrawn

Restores most links, provides a quicker service from Stanley to Gateshead, Annfield Plain/Dipton to Metro Centre get their bus route back. Quickish service from Lanchester to Newcastle. Sunniside Estates get a bus to Gateshead to connect to new routes.
When I first read it I thought you had replaced the R5 and gone Dipton, Burnopfield, Rowlands Gill then towards The Metrocentre. I was going to suggest an express version of either 709 or 728.

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ASX_Terranova
09 Jan 2022, 3:04 pm #2,030

(09 Jan 2022, 1:53 pm)Storx Yeah there's been a few of them over the years, none of them have lasted really though mind I do believe X20 originally was one from Ashington which has lasted.


Not really it runs in the opposite direction pretty much yours going North East then North West whereas mine goes North West then North East.

tbh. The section between Durham and Annfield Plain will carry fresh air so changed them a bit.

X44 (X-Lines) - Lanchester to Newcastle via Metro Centre - https://www.google.com/maps/dir/54.82085...96!1m0!3e0 (Hourly)

6 - Current route to Burnopfield (30 Mins), then current route to Burnhope only (Hourly)

7 - Stanley to Gateshead via Tanobie and Lobley Hill - https://www.google.com/maps/dir/54.86812...c5!1m0!3e0 (Hourly)

X70/X71 - Restored to every 30 minutes between Burnopfield and Newcastle rather than the useless 20/40 atm.

X72 - Withdrawn

Restores most links, provides a quicker service from Stanley to Gateshead, Annfield Plain/Dipton to Metro Centre get their bus route back. Quickish service from Lanchester to Newcastle. Sunniside Estates get a bus to Gateshead to connect to new routes.
When I first read it I thought you had replaced the R5 and gone Dipton, Burnopfield, Rowlands Gill then towards The Metrocentre. I was going to suggest an express version of either 709 or 728.


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11 Jan 2022, 1:53 pm #2,031
22: Washington to Durham via Lambton, Ayton, Chester-Le-Street, Plawsworth, Newton Hall, Framwellgate & University Hospital.

The 50 gets really busy between the Galleries and Durham so maybe introduce another service on this section.

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ASX_Terranova
11 Jan 2022, 1:53 pm #2,031

22: Washington to Durham via Lambton, Ayton, Chester-Le-Street, Plawsworth, Newton Hall, Framwellgate & University Hospital.

The 50 gets really busy between the Galleries and Durham so maybe introduce another service on this section.


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MurdnunoC



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11 Jan 2022, 2:52 pm #2,032
(11 Jan 2022, 1:53 pm)ASX_Terranova 22: Washington to Durham via Lambton, Ayton, Chester-Le-Street, Plawsworth, Newton Hall, Framwellgate & University Hospital.

The 50 gets really busy between the Galleries and Durham so maybe introduce another service on this section.

?????

Or alternatively increase the frequency of the 50 instead of complicaating matters by introducing a new service running what appears to be exactly the same route.

The mind boggles...
MurdnunoC
11 Jan 2022, 2:52 pm #2,032

(11 Jan 2022, 1:53 pm)ASX_Terranova 22: Washington to Durham via Lambton, Ayton, Chester-Le-Street, Plawsworth, Newton Hall, Framwellgate & University Hospital.

The 50 gets really busy between the Galleries and Durham so maybe introduce another service on this section.

?????

Or alternatively increase the frequency of the 50 instead of complicaating matters by introducing a new service running what appears to be exactly the same route.

The mind boggles...

Adrian



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11 Jan 2022, 3:40 pm #2,033
(11 Jan 2022, 2:52 pm)MurdnunoC ?????

Or alternatively increase the frequency of the 50 instead of complicaating matters by introducing a new service running what appears to be exactly the same route.

The mind boggles...

I agree. The network is complicated enough for customers without two buses doing the same route with different numbers.

On another note, I think I've located the comprehensive timetable book for all services that have been suggested to run via Lambton Village Centre over the years:

[Image: Giant-Book-450x450.png]

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Adrian
11 Jan 2022, 3:40 pm #2,033

(11 Jan 2022, 2:52 pm)MurdnunoC ?????

Or alternatively increase the frequency of the 50 instead of complicaating matters by introducing a new service running what appears to be exactly the same route.

The mind boggles...

I agree. The network is complicated enough for customers without two buses doing the same route with different numbers.

On another note, I think I've located the comprehensive timetable book for all services that have been suggested to run via Lambton Village Centre over the years:

[Image: Giant-Book-450x450.png]


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11 Jan 2022, 3:54 pm #2,034
(11 Jan 2022, 3:40 pm)Adrian I agree. The network is complicated enough for customers without two buses doing the same route with different numbers.

On another note, I think I've located the comprehensive timetable book for all services that have been suggested to run via Lambton Village Centre over the years:

[Image: Giant-Book-450x450.png]

Hopefully that top sheet has the direct service to Newcastle on it  Tongue
Malarkey
11 Jan 2022, 3:54 pm #2,034

(11 Jan 2022, 3:40 pm)Adrian I agree. The network is complicated enough for customers without two buses doing the same route with different numbers.

On another note, I think I've located the comprehensive timetable book for all services that have been suggested to run via Lambton Village Centre over the years:

[Image: Giant-Book-450x450.png]

Hopefully that top sheet has the direct service to Newcastle on it  Tongue

MurdnunoC



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11 Jan 2022, 3:58 pm #2,035
(11 Jan 2022, 3:54 pm)Malarkey Hopefully that top sheet has the direct service to Newcastle on it  Tongue


Na. I think your Dumfries to Hull via Lambton Village Centre would be at the top of the pile
MurdnunoC
11 Jan 2022, 3:58 pm #2,035

(11 Jan 2022, 3:54 pm)Malarkey Hopefully that top sheet has the direct service to Newcastle on it  Tongue


Na. I think your Dumfries to Hull via Lambton Village Centre would be at the top of the pile

11 Jan 2022, 4:56 pm #2,036
(11 Jan 2022, 3:58 pm)MurdnunoC Na. I think your Dumfries to Hull via Lambton Village Centre would be at the top of the pile

Does that go via Kingston Park and Blaydon as well?
streetdeckfan
11 Jan 2022, 4:56 pm #2,036

(11 Jan 2022, 3:58 pm)MurdnunoC Na. I think your Dumfries to Hull via Lambton Village Centre would be at the top of the pile

Does that go via Kingston Park and Blaydon as well?

MurdnunoC



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11 Jan 2022, 5:04 pm #2,037
(11 Jan 2022, 4:56 pm)streetdeckfan Does that go via Kingston Park and Blaydon as well?


Back in the day, Lambton Village Centre was the place to be. Kingston Park and Blaydon are recent new towns/metropolises which didn't exist back then.
MurdnunoC
11 Jan 2022, 5:04 pm #2,037

(11 Jan 2022, 4:56 pm)streetdeckfan Does that go via Kingston Park and Blaydon as well?


Back in the day, Lambton Village Centre was the place to be. Kingston Park and Blaydon are recent new towns/metropolises which didn't exist back then.

Andreos1



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11 Jan 2022, 8:02 pm #2,038
(11 Jan 2022, 5:04 pm)MurdnunoC Back in the day, Lambton Village Centre was the place to be. Kingston Park and Blaydon are recent new towns/metropolises which didn't exist back then.
*coughs and gestures towards the village full of fences and houses*

'The FPF strongly condem any notions that Lambton Village Centre was the place to be. We will not give up our fight. We will not surrender'

Statement ends.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
11 Jan 2022, 8:02 pm #2,038

(11 Jan 2022, 5:04 pm)MurdnunoC Back in the day, Lambton Village Centre was the place to be. Kingston Park and Blaydon are recent new towns/metropolises which didn't exist back then.
*coughs and gestures towards the village full of fences and houses*

'The FPF strongly condem any notions that Lambton Village Centre was the place to be. We will not give up our fight. We will not surrender'

Statement ends.


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

Malarkey



6,060
11 Jan 2022, 8:38 pm #2,039
(11 Jan 2022, 3:58 pm)MurdnunoC Na. I think your Dumfries to Hull via Lambton Village Centre would be at the top of the pile

Hull, who'd want to go to that dump?
Malarkey
11 Jan 2022, 8:38 pm #2,039

(11 Jan 2022, 3:58 pm)MurdnunoC Na. I think your Dumfries to Hull via Lambton Village Centre would be at the top of the pile

Hull, who'd want to go to that dump?

MurdnunoC



3,965
11 Jan 2022, 8:41 pm #2,040
(11 Jan 2022, 8:38 pm)Malarkey Hull, who'd want to go to that dump?


It is the home of someone's second favourite football club, IIRC.
MurdnunoC
11 Jan 2022, 8:41 pm #2,040

(11 Jan 2022, 8:38 pm)Malarkey Hull, who'd want to go to that dump?


It is the home of someone's second favourite football club, IIRC.

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