Go North East: Service Suggestions v2
Go North East: Service Suggestions v2
(17 Jul 2021, 5:16 pm)ASX_Terranova New Service X39
Newcastle - NON STOP - Coach Lane Campus - Benton ASDA - Cobalt - Northumberland Park - Shiremoor - Monkseaton - Whitley Bay - Seaton Sluice - Blyth
New Service X40
Newcastle - NON STOP - Silverlink - Cobalt - Norham Road - Percy Main - North Shields (Ferry & Town Centre) - Tynemouth - Whitley Bay (Uses Full Promenade Between Tynemouth & Whitley Bay)
Every 30 Minutes Each, 15 Combined
Also could you put a full length single or deck decker on either the W1, W1A, W2, W3 or 333?
(17 Jul 2021, 5:16 pm)ASX_Terranova New Service X39
Newcastle - NON STOP - Coach Lane Campus - Benton ASDA - Cobalt - Northumberland Park - Shiremoor - Monkseaton - Whitley Bay - Seaton Sluice - Blyth
New Service X40
Newcastle - NON STOP - Silverlink - Cobalt - Norham Road - Percy Main - North Shields (Ferry & Town Centre) - Tynemouth - Whitley Bay (Uses Full Promenade Between Tynemouth & Whitley Bay)
Every 30 Minutes Each, 15 Combined
Also could you put a full length single or deck decker on either the W1, W1A, W2, W3 or 333?
(20 Jul 2021, 5:40 pm)L469 YVK Suggestions for late evening 309/310/311 journeys:
- 2240 & 2320 310 ex Newcastle via Hadrian Park. 2320 310 retimed to run 5 mins later at 2325.
- 2300 311 ex Newcastle replaced with later 309 journey to Whitley Bay only departing at 2305.
(20 Jul 2021, 6:05 pm)MurdnunoC Why?Would give a later 309 journey after 11pm to fully compete with the 308. Last 2x 310 journeys would cover Hadrian Park in lieu of the 311.
(20 Jul 2021, 6:05 pm)MurdnunoC Why?Would give a later 309 journey after 11pm to fully compete with the 308. Last 2x 310 journeys would cover Hadrian Park in lieu of the 311.
(20 Jul 2021, 10:14 pm)L469 YVK Would give a later 309 journey after 11pm to fully compete with the 308. Last 2x 310 journeys would cover Hadrian Park in lieu of the 311.
The loadings on Friday's 2220 journey was decent and that was under Step 3 of lockdown rules. Obviously the £1 fare will no doubt be helping as well as reliability confidence given the situation with Arriva.
(20 Jul 2021, 10:14 pm)L469 YVK Would give a later 309 journey after 11pm to fully compete with the 308. Last 2x 310 journeys would cover Hadrian Park in lieu of the 311.
The loadings on Friday's 2220 journey was decent and that was under Step 3 of lockdown rules. Obviously the £1 fare will no doubt be helping as well as reliability confidence given the situation with Arriva.
(20 Jul 2021, 10:14 pm)L469 YVK Would give a later 309 journey after 11pm to fully compete with the 308. Last 2x 310 journeys would cover Hadrian Park in lieu of the 311.
The loadings on Friday's 2220 journey was decent and that was under Step 3 of lockdown rules. Obviously the £1 fare will no doubt be helping as well as reliability confidence given the situation with Arriva.
(21 Jul 2021, 7:48 am)Andreos1 Noticed the other night that one of the late 309 (last but one if I remember correctly) runs was cancelled due to isolation.
A tweet went out 10mins before it was due to depart.
What made it worse, was that they had already tweeted an hour earlier, that the inbound journey from Blyth wasn't running.
Those who know the interworking patterns, would have been Ok.
The ordinary punter would have been left standing at Haymarket, wondering if the last one was going to rock up.
Hardly 'reliability confidence' for those users.
(20 Jul 2021, 10:14 pm)L469 YVK Would give a later 309 journey after 11pm to fully compete with the 308. Last 2x 310 journeys would cover Hadrian Park in lieu of the 311.
The loadings on Friday's 2220 journey was decent and that was under Step 3 of lockdown rules. Obviously the £1 fare will no doubt be helping as well as reliability confidence given the situation with Arriva.
(21 Jul 2021, 7:48 am)Andreos1 Noticed the other night that one of the late 309 (last but one if I remember correctly) runs was cancelled due to isolation.
A tweet went out 10mins before it was due to depart.
What made it worse, was that they had already tweeted an hour earlier, that the inbound journey from Blyth wasn't running.
Those who know the interworking patterns, would have been Ok.
The ordinary punter would have been left standing at Haymarket, wondering if the last one was going to rock up.
Hardly 'reliability confidence' for those users.
(21 Jul 2021, 9:31 am)Adrian Why does it need to be competed against, if the 308 is already running that route? Overbussing on the Coast Road is one of the things that Enhanced Partnerships are supposed to deal with.
I bet there was no alternative journey options tweeted either.
Sorry for any inconvenience caused. Enjoy your overnight experience in Haymarket bus station.
(21 Jul 2021, 9:31 am)Adrian Why does it need to be competed against, if the 308 is already running that route? Overbussing on the Coast Road is one of the things that Enhanced Partnerships are supposed to deal with.
I bet there was no alternative journey options tweeted either.
Sorry for any inconvenience caused. Enjoy your overnight experience in Haymarket bus station.
(21 Jul 2021, 9:31 am)Adrian Why does it need to be competed against, if the 308 is already running that route? Overbussing on the Coast Road is one of the things that Enhanced Partnerships are supposed to deal with.
I bet there was no alternative journey options tweeted either.
Sorry for any inconvenience caused. Enjoy your overnight experience in Haymarket bus station.
(21 Jul 2021, 9:31 am)Adrian Why does it need to be competed against, if the 308 is already running that route? Overbussing on the Coast Road is one of the things that Enhanced Partnerships are supposed to deal with.
I bet there was no alternative journey options tweeted either.
Sorry for any inconvenience caused. Enjoy your overnight experience in Haymarket bus station.
(21 Jul 2021, 10:57 am)Andreos1 How did you know? It's almost as if the standard shrug of the shoulders and lack of ownership is to be expected!
The line about tracking the next bus was trotted out and that was it.
No forward planning, no consideration for customers and no signposting.
I appreciate sickness can't be helped, but they knew well in advance, that particular service wasn't running and they should know that passengers rely on them to get home. Tweeting 10mins before departure is pretty poor.
Good job there are alternatives for most. Hopefully it didn't cost them too much extra to get home that night.
(21 Jul 2021, 10:57 am)Andreos1 How did you know? It's almost as if the standard shrug of the shoulders and lack of ownership is to be expected!
The line about tracking the next bus was trotted out and that was it.
No forward planning, no consideration for customers and no signposting.
I appreciate sickness can't be helped, but they knew well in advance, that particular service wasn't running and they should know that passengers rely on them to get home. Tweeting 10mins before departure is pretty poor.
Good job there are alternatives for most. Hopefully it didn't cost them too much extra to get home that night.
To many buses in my opinion serve the coast road between Newcastle and the Corner house. Way to many. Then after that it's at battle hill where the 308 stick to it. And the rest go through battle hill.
No more services should go along the coast road. There's enough already
(21 Jul 2021, 11:10 am)Train8261 To many buses in my opinion serve the coast road between Newcastle and the Corner house. Way to many. Then after that it's at battle hill where the 308 stick to it. And the rest go through battle hill.I disagree. We need more express buses that miss out Battle hill and Silverlink so that people to the East of these places can have a quick bus to Newcastle like the 44 did before Arriva destroyed it.
No more services should go along the coast road. There's enough already
(21 Jul 2021, 11:10 am)Train8261 To many buses in my opinion serve the coast road between Newcastle and the Corner house. Way to many. Then after that it's at battle hill where the 308 stick to it. And the rest go through battle hill.I disagree. We need more express buses that miss out Battle hill and Silverlink so that people to the East of these places can have a quick bus to Newcastle like the 44 did before Arriva destroyed it.
No more services should go along the coast road. There's enough already
I'm in the middle of trying to do an express 309 (X39) right now actually.
Going to Send the service into West Monkseaton (specifically Brentwood Road) & Monkseaton ( Metro), Whitley Lodge (Claremont Road) & Briardene (Wesley Avenue).
(22 Jul 2021, 10:10 am)ian foster I disagree. We need more express buses that miss out Battle hill and Silverlink so that people to the East of these places can have a quick bus to Newcastle like the 44 did before Arriva destroyed it.
(22 Jul 2021, 10:10 am)ian foster I disagree. We need more express buses that miss out Battle hill and Silverlink so that people to the East of these places can have a quick bus to Newcastle like the 44 did before Arriva destroyed it.
(22 Jul 2021, 5:29 pm)Malarkey Although it is a stopping service I found the 308 reasonably quick from Whitley Bay to Newcastle yesterday afternoon but I do agree in having a more limited stopping service being in place and only serving major stops such as Silverlink, North Tyneside Hospital, Whitley Bay Town Centre/The Links & Seaton Sluice, You could in turn cut a journey which is currently 66 Minutes from Blyth to Newcastle down by potentially 15/20 Minutes as from looking at Google Maps it 37 minutes in a car.
(22 Jul 2021, 5:29 pm)Malarkey Although it is a stopping service I found the 308 reasonably quick from Whitley Bay to Newcastle yesterday afternoon but I do agree in having a more limited stopping service being in place and only serving major stops such as Silverlink, North Tyneside Hospital, Whitley Bay Town Centre/The Links & Seaton Sluice, You could in turn cut a journey which is currently 66 Minutes from Blyth to Newcastle down by potentially 15/20 Minutes as from looking at Google Maps it 37 minutes in a car.
(22 Jul 2021, 5:29 pm)Malarkey Although it is a stopping service I found the 308 reasonably quick from Whitley Bay to Newcastle yesterday afternoon but I do agree in having a more limited stopping service being in place and only serving major stops such as Silverlink, North Tyneside Hospital, Whitley Bay Town Centre/The Links & Seaton Sluice, You could in turn cut a journey which is currently 66 Minutes from Blyth to Newcastle down by potentially 15/20 Minutes as from looking at Google Maps it 37 minutes in a car.
(22 Jul 2021, 5:29 pm)Malarkey Although it is a stopping service I found the 308 reasonably quick from Whitley Bay to Newcastle yesterday afternoon but I do agree in having a more limited stopping service being in place and only serving major stops such as Silverlink, North Tyneside Hospital, Whitley Bay Town Centre/The Links & Seaton Sluice, You could in turn cut a journey which is currently 66 Minutes from Blyth to Newcastle down by potentially 15/20 Minutes as from looking at Google Maps it 37 minutes in a car.
(22 Jul 2021, 7:12 pm)Storx Don't really see the point personally.
Blyth has the X7/X9/X10/X11/X30
Half of Seaton Sluice has the X7
Whitley / Monkseaton has the Metro
Once you take all of them away there's not that many people left, especially when there's a few who use them to travel to college or to Silverlink etc to warrant an express service along there.
Either way it should be an Arriva service anyway. One thing I do think could be changed is the fact there's currently 9 buses an hour between Whitley and Lynn Road yet streets 1/2 a mile away have nothing especially Marden, can't blame people like Ian for being genuinely annoyed as they're service is crap (55 mins believe it is) and it's too far to realistically walk to Cullercoats Metro / Foxhunters.
(22 Jul 2021, 7:12 pm)Storx Don't really see the point personally.
Blyth has the X7/X9/X10/X11/X30
Half of Seaton Sluice has the X7
Whitley / Monkseaton has the Metro
Once you take all of them away there's not that many people left, especially when there's a few who use them to travel to college or to Silverlink etc to warrant an express service along there.
Either way it should be an Arriva service anyway. One thing I do think could be changed is the fact there's currently 9 buses an hour between Whitley and Lynn Road yet streets 1/2 a mile away have nothing especially Marden, can't blame people like Ian for being genuinely annoyed as they're service is crap (55 mins believe it is) and it's too far to realistically walk to Cullercoats Metro / Foxhunters.
I have a few suggestions for the 21, 25 and 2 brand new services.
21 would stay the same.
25 renumbered to 21A and terminates at Chester le Street.
New 13 service Chester le Street to Langley Park.
New 21B service from Newcastle to Chester le Street via:
Gateshead, Bensham, Team Valley, Lamesley, Kibblesworth, Birtley, Ouston, Pelton, South Pelaw
21 would keep Streetdecks.
21A would have Angel liveried Geminis.
21B would have Angel liveried Streetlites.
(22 Jul 2021, 7:12 pm)Storx Don't really see the point personally.
Blyth has the X7/X9/X10/X11/X30
Half of Seaton Sluice has the X7
Whitley / Monkseaton has the Metro
Once you take all of them away there's not that many people left, especially when there's a few who use them to travel to college or to Silverlink etc to warrant an express service along there.
Either way it should be an Arriva service anyway. One thing I do think could be changed is the fact there's currently 9 buses an hour between Whitley and Lynn Road yet streets 1/2 a mile away have nothing especially Marden, can't blame people like Ian for being genuinely annoyed as they're service is crap (55 mins believe it is) and it's too far to realistically walk to Cullercoats Metro / Foxhunters.
(22 Jul 2021, 7:12 pm)Storx Don't really see the point personally.
Blyth has the X7/X9/X10/X11/X30
Half of Seaton Sluice has the X7
Whitley / Monkseaton has the Metro
Once you take all of them away there's not that many people left, especially when there's a few who use them to travel to college or to Silverlink etc to warrant an express service along there.
Either way it should be an Arriva service anyway. One thing I do think could be changed is the fact there's currently 9 buses an hour between Whitley and Lynn Road yet streets 1/2 a mile away have nothing especially Marden, can't blame people like Ian for being genuinely annoyed as they're service is crap (55 mins believe it is) and it's too far to realistically walk to Cullercoats Metro / Foxhunters.
(22 Jul 2021, 8:54 pm)Andreos1 Plenty of people commute along the Coast Road between various points of North Tyneside.
This is all in addition to the ANE and GNE, the Metro and to an extent SNE.
All that competition and still there's traffic jams, cries for bus priority measures, road improvements etc.
In addition to that, you've got the A19 corridor teaming with business parks, manufacturing sites and new housing.
Despite that, money is spent on improving the road network or subsidising a bus between two desolate town centres and the Tyne Tunnel.
There's the A189 (which obviously connects directly/indirectly with both the A19 and Coast Road), with new housing at various points along it and business parks at various stages of it.
Despite that, it's more or less impossible to get to/from many of them using public transport.
Sticking with the same old route network isn't working.
Whacking a collapsible bench on a rear facing seat isn't working.
I'm not sure 'desirable' branding is doing anything other than creating identikit fleets up and down the country.
Someone needs to find out where the people are coming from, where they're going to and work out what will encourage them to make the modal shift.
It might be a quicker service, it may be variations to the network or it might mean new services that allow people to travel easily and quickly between places like (the sorts of journeys that can be a bit of a nightmare as it stands, but shouldn't be) Marden and Quorum, Annitsford and Cobalt, New York and Tyne Tunnel Trading Estate or Howdon and the AMP.
Not just Town Centre to City Centre, in some sort of multi-coloured convoy.
(22 Jul 2021, 8:54 pm)Andreos1 Plenty of people commute along the Coast Road between various points of North Tyneside.
This is all in addition to the ANE and GNE, the Metro and to an extent SNE.
All that competition and still there's traffic jams, cries for bus priority measures, road improvements etc.
In addition to that, you've got the A19 corridor teaming with business parks, manufacturing sites and new housing.
Despite that, money is spent on improving the road network or subsidising a bus between two desolate town centres and the Tyne Tunnel.
There's the A189 (which obviously connects directly/indirectly with both the A19 and Coast Road), with new housing at various points along it and business parks at various stages of it.
Despite that, it's more or less impossible to get to/from many of them using public transport.
Sticking with the same old route network isn't working.
Whacking a collapsible bench on a rear facing seat isn't working.
I'm not sure 'desirable' branding is doing anything other than creating identikit fleets up and down the country.
Someone needs to find out where the people are coming from, where they're going to and work out what will encourage them to make the modal shift.
It might be a quicker service, it may be variations to the network or it might mean new services that allow people to travel easily and quickly between places like (the sorts of journeys that can be a bit of a nightmare as it stands, but shouldn't be) Marden and Quorum, Annitsford and Cobalt, New York and Tyne Tunnel Trading Estate or Howdon and the AMP.
Not just Town Centre to City Centre, in some sort of multi-coloured convoy.
