Go North East: Service Suggestions v2
Go North East: Service Suggestions v2
V1/V2 - Stanley - East Stanley - Sheridan Drive - Stanley Hall Estate - South Moor - Quaking Houses - Lanchester - Burnhope - Delves Lane - Consett - Number One Roundabout - Shotley Bridge Hospital - The Dene - High Westwood - Ebchester - Hamsterley - Hamsterley Hill - Burnopfield - Crookgate Bank - Tanfield - Tanfield Lea - Stanley
Merging of Services 30/31/V1/V2 & V3 creating a circular service between Consett and Stanley operating Every 30 Minutes Monday to Sunday.
Quaking Houses to Stanley via South Moor
You could remove the 37 (Nexus) entirely by extending the 82 to Concord, 82, 84 or 85 to Coach Road & 33 to Washington Galleries.
(11 Oct 2021, 10:38 pm)ASX_Terranova You could remove the 37 (Nexus) entirely by extending the 82 to Concord, 82, 84 or 85 to Coach Road & 33 to Washington Galleries.
(11 Oct 2021, 10:38 pm)ASX_Terranova You could remove the 37 (Nexus) entirely by extending the 82 to Concord, 82, 84 or 85 to Coach Road & 33 to Washington Galleries.
(12 Oct 2021, 7:00 am)cbma06 Isn’t the 37 a secured service?, there’s nothing much you can do with a secured service ran by the local authority, as there’s a reason why the service runs as is, it doesn’t run to profit to line the pockets of bus companies , there run the service as it’s needed in the community
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(12 Oct 2021, 7:00 am)cbma06 Isn’t the 37 a secured service?, there’s nothing much you can do with a secured service ran by the local authority, as there’s a reason why the service runs as is, it doesn’t run to profit to line the pockets of bus companies , there run the service as it’s needed in the community
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(12 Oct 2021, 8:04 am)Andreos1 The 37 came about after GNE decided to do away with their commercial offerings. It left a few areas without a service and Nexus had to step up and fill the gap.Am i right i thinking that even back in the 169 days it was a secured service.
(12 Oct 2021, 8:04 am)Andreos1 The 37 came about after GNE decided to do away with their commercial offerings. It left a few areas without a service and Nexus had to step up and fill the gap.Am i right i thinking that even back in the 169 days it was a secured service.
Could a 4a type route work? I was thinking normal route heworth to the galleries then out of Washington running via lambton, harraton (sycamore avenue) and rickelton to Chester then the 71 route to Houghton. Journey time would be 70 minutes each way so a PVR of 5 with a 30 minute frequency.
The 8 could then be rerouted to be sped up between the galleries and Chester and potentially mean the timing of the 78 and 8 could be made more even rather than running from common areas a few minutes apart like now.
The 71 could also be withdrawn.
(12 Oct 2021, 5:15 pm)User2613 Could a 4a type route work? I was thinking normal route heworth to the galleries then out of Washington running via lambton, harraton (sycamore avenue) and rickelton to Chester then the 71 route to Houghton. Journey time would be 70 minutes each way so a PVR of 5 with a 30 minute frequency.Nah can't withdraw the 71. September service changes already proved that
The 8 could then be rerouted to be sped up between the galleries and Chester and potentially mean the timing of the 78 and 8 could be made more even rather than running from common areas a few minutes apart like now.
The 71 could also be withdrawn.
(12 Oct 2021, 5:15 pm)User2613 Could a 4a type route work? I was thinking normal route heworth to the galleries then out of Washington running via lambton, harraton (sycamore avenue) and rickelton to Chester then the 71 route to Houghton. Journey time would be 70 minutes each way so a PVR of 5 with a 30 minute frequency.Nah can't withdraw the 71. September service changes already proved that
The 8 could then be rerouted to be sped up between the galleries and Chester and potentially mean the timing of the 78 and 8 could be made more even rather than running from common areas a few minutes apart like now.
The 71 could also be withdrawn.
(12 Oct 2021, 6:11 pm)Train8261 Nah can't withdraw the 71. September service changes already proved thatThat's because of the Chester to Houghton section. Which this would replace. Past versions of the 71 and 36 when that existed all had the Chester to Houghton section as that's the section which is subsidised.
(12 Oct 2021, 6:11 pm)Train8261 Nah can't withdraw the 71. September service changes already proved thatThat's because of the Chester to Houghton section. Which this would replace. Past versions of the 71 and 36 when that existed all had the Chester to Houghton section as that's the section which is subsidised.
(12 Oct 2021, 2:30 pm)ASX_Terranova Am i right i thinking that even back in the 169 days it was a secured service.
(12 Oct 2021, 2:30 pm)ASX_Terranova Am i right i thinking that even back in the 169 days it was a secured service.
(12 Oct 2021, 6:20 pm)User2613 That's because of the Chester to Houghton section. Which this would replace. Past versions of the 71 and 36 when that existed all had the Chester to Houghton section as that's the section which is subsidised.
(12 Oct 2021, 6:20 pm)User2613 That's because of the Chester to Houghton section. Which this would replace. Past versions of the 71 and 36 when that existed all had the Chester to Houghton section as that's the section which is subsidised.
(12 Oct 2021, 5:15 pm)User2613 Could a 4a type route work? I was thinking normal route heworth to the galleries then out of Washington running via lambton, harraton (sycamore avenue) and rickelton to Chester then the 71 route to Houghton. Journey time would be 70 minutes each way so a PVR of 5 with a 30 minute frequency.
The 8 could then be rerouted to be sped up between the galleries and Chester and potentially mean the timing of the 78 and 8 could be made more even rather than running from common areas a few minutes apart like now.
The 71 could also be withdrawn.
(12 Oct 2021, 5:15 pm)User2613 Could a 4a type route work? I was thinking normal route heworth to the galleries then out of Washington running via lambton, harraton (sycamore avenue) and rickelton to Chester then the 71 route to Houghton. Journey time would be 70 minutes each way so a PVR of 5 with a 30 minute frequency.
The 8 could then be rerouted to be sped up between the galleries and Chester and potentially mean the timing of the 78 and 8 could be made more even rather than running from common areas a few minutes apart like now.
The 71 could also be withdrawn.
(12 Oct 2021, 6:35 pm)Storx I don't know the history of Houghton to Seaham but I'd be surprised if that bit nowadays at least isn't important if not more so that the Chester to Houghton end which is mostly Nexus territory. It's the only bus in Dene Estate and Seaton and would leave communities without a bus service at all, the other end is all served by buses even known it means changing buses.You could do like a 60A, which would be seperate to the current Version - Parkside, Princess Road, Seaham, Seaton - Houghton - Sunderland College - Sunderland.
(12 Oct 2021, 5:15 pm)User2613 Could a 4a type route work? I was thinking normal route heworth to the galleries then out of Washington running via lambton, harraton (sycamore avenue) and rickelton to Chester then the 71 route to Houghton. Journey time would be 70 minutes each way so a PVR of 5 with a 30 minute frequency.8/78 should be kept 15 mins apart from each other most time, not as bad timing as X6/62.
The 8 could then be rerouted to be sped up between the galleries and Chester and potentially mean the timing of the 78 and 8 could be made more even rather than running from common areas a few minutes apart like now.
The 71 could also be withdrawn.
(12 Oct 2021, 6:35 pm)Storx I don't know the history of Houghton to Seaham but I'd be surprised if that bit nowadays at least isn't important if not more so that the Chester to Houghton end which is mostly Nexus territory. It's the only bus in Dene Estate and Seaton and would leave communities without a bus service at all, the other end is all served by buses even known it means changing buses.You could do like a 60A, which would be seperate to the current Version - Parkside, Princess Road, Seaham, Seaton - Houghton - Sunderland College - Sunderland.
(12 Oct 2021, 5:15 pm)User2613 Could a 4a type route work? I was thinking normal route heworth to the galleries then out of Washington running via lambton, harraton (sycamore avenue) and rickelton to Chester then the 71 route to Houghton. Journey time would be 70 minutes each way so a PVR of 5 with a 30 minute frequency.8/78 should be kept 15 mins apart from each other most time, not as bad timing as X6/62.
The 8 could then be rerouted to be sped up between the galleries and Chester and potentially mean the timing of the 78 and 8 could be made more even rather than running from common areas a few minutes apart like now.
The 71 could also be withdrawn.
Increase 8 to Every 20 Mins, With 2 8's and an 8A
8 Route to remain the same except for serving Enterprise Park Western End.
8A Re-route: Park Lane, Royal Hospital, Pallion, Spire Bridge, Casteltown, Teal Farm, Waterview Park, Barmston Slip-Road, Washington Galleries, Biddick, Harraton, Rickleton, Picktree, Chester-Le-Street, Pelton, Newfield, Grange Villa, Craghead, South Moor, Stanley.
Departs Stanley: 19 (8), 39, (8A), 59 (8)
Departs Sunderland: 52 (8), 12 (8A), 32(8)
Would provide additonal buses between CLS, Pelton, Newfield, Grange Villa & Stanley.
Would give GNE Links between Park Lane, Royal Hospital, St Lukes Cross, Pallion & Castletown.
If still not enough, make the 78 every 20 Mins and add a 78A as well.
(13 Oct 2021, 2:46 pm)ASX_Terranova Increase 8 to Every 20 Mins, With 2 8's and an 8A
8 Route to remain the same except for serving Enterprise Park Western End.
8A Re-route: Park Lane, Royal Hospital, Pallion, Spire Bridge, Casteltown, Teal Farm, Waterview Park, Barmston Slip-Road, Washington Galleries, Biddick, Harraton, Rickleton, Picktree, Chester-Le-Street, Pelton, Newfield, Grange Villa, Craghead, South Moor, Stanley.
Departs Stanley: 19 (8), 39, (8A), 59 (8)
Departs Sunderland: 52 (8), 12 (8A), 32(8)
Would provide additonal buses between CLS, Pelton, Newfield, Grange Villa & Stanley.
Would give GNE Links between Park Lane, Royal Hospital, St Lukes Cross, Pallion & Castletown.
If still not enough, make the 78 every 20 Mins and add a 78A as well.
(13 Oct 2021, 2:46 pm)ASX_Terranova Increase 8 to Every 20 Mins, With 2 8's and an 8A
8 Route to remain the same except for serving Enterprise Park Western End.
8A Re-route: Park Lane, Royal Hospital, Pallion, Spire Bridge, Casteltown, Teal Farm, Waterview Park, Barmston Slip-Road, Washington Galleries, Biddick, Harraton, Rickleton, Picktree, Chester-Le-Street, Pelton, Newfield, Grange Villa, Craghead, South Moor, Stanley.
Departs Stanley: 19 (8), 39, (8A), 59 (8)
Departs Sunderland: 52 (8), 12 (8A), 32(8)
Would provide additonal buses between CLS, Pelton, Newfield, Grange Villa & Stanley.
Would give GNE Links between Park Lane, Royal Hospital, St Lukes Cross, Pallion & Castletown.
If still not enough, make the 78 every 20 Mins and add a 78A as well.
(13 Oct 2021, 3:25 pm)Storx Personally on the Western side if you wanted to increase buses to Stanley I'd change the 28/28A/28B all running through to this route - https://www.google.com/maps/dir/54.86820...883391!3e0Are you saying bring back the 709/728
It gives a few new links such as Birtley / Ouston to Stanley, evening East Stanley to Newcastle, Stanley to Gateshead (even known slow), No Place to Newcastle, QE to Stanley. It also partially replaces the 31 and gives new links to places where people actually want to be as long as you can work with DCC and get stops on Humber Hill or do Hail and Ride.
Not sure what demand there would be but it seems more logical than it's Perkinsville ending and Pelton Fell has the 78/78A so the horseshoe route doesn't make much sense nowadays since everywhere else has the 8 to CLS which is quicker.
(13 Oct 2021, 3:25 pm)Storx Personally on the Western side if you wanted to increase buses to Stanley I'd change the 28/28A/28B all running through to this route - https://www.google.com/maps/dir/54.86820...883391!3e0Are you saying bring back the 709/728
It gives a few new links such as Birtley / Ouston to Stanley, evening East Stanley to Newcastle, Stanley to Gateshead (even known slow), No Place to Newcastle, QE to Stanley. It also partially replaces the 31 and gives new links to places where people actually want to be as long as you can work with DCC and get stops on Humber Hill or do Hail and Ride.
Not sure what demand there would be but it seems more logical than it's Perkinsville ending and Pelton Fell has the 78/78A so the horseshoe route doesn't make much sense nowadays since everywhere else has the 8 to CLS which is quicker.
New Services for South Shields
[b]503 & 504[/b]
Same as SNE SS 3 & 4
[b][u]507 & 508[/u][/b]
Same as SNE SS 7 & 8
510 & 511
South Shields, Bents Park, Horsley Hill, Marsden, McAnay Avenue, Hospital, Biddick Hall, Simonside, Stanhope Road, Chichester, Laygate, Trinity & South Shields
510 Clockwise (Every 30 MIns)
511 Anti-Clockwise (Every 30 Mins)
512
Same as SNE SS 12
515 & 516
South Shields, The Lawe, Lakes Avenue, Horsley Hill, Centenary Avenue, Harton Nook, Harton Moor, Tyne Dock, Templetown, South Shields
515 Clockwise (Hourly)
516 Anti-Clockwise (Hourly)
518, 526 & 528
518: South Shields, Chichester, Stanhope Road, Simonside, Brockley Whins, Edinbrugh Road, Low Simonside (Every 15 MIns)
526: South Shields, Chichester, Hospital, Simonside, Brockley Whins, Edinbrugh Road, Hill Park, Jarrow, Hebburn, Hartleyburn Estate, Monkton Lane, Luke's Lane (Every 30 MIns)
528: South Shields, Chichester, Hospital, Simonside, Brockley Whins, Edinbrugh Road, York Avenue, Jarrow, Hebburn, Hartleyburn Estate, Monkton Lane, Luke's Lane (Every 30 MIns)
Combined up to Every 7-8 Mins Between Shields, Chichester, Simonside, Brockley Whins & Edinbrugh Road.
530
Same as SNE SS 30
533
Stopping Version of SNE SS X20 with Longer Simonside Diversion and Increased 20 MIns Frequency
543 & 544
543: South Shields, Westoe, Tyne Dock, Jarrow, Hedgeley Road, Hebburn, Monkton Lane, Heworth (Every 30 MIns
544: South Shields, Westoe, King George Road, Hospital, Tyne Dock, Jarrow, Hedgeley Road, Hebburn, Monkton Lane, Washington Galleries (Every 30 MIns)
Combined up to Every 15 Mins Between South Shields, Tyne Dock, Jarrow, Hedgeley Road, Hebburn & Monkton Lane
550, 551, 552 & 553
550: Same as 50 but diverted to serve Westoe & Whiteleas Shops
551: Existing 5
552: South Shields, Laygate, Chichester, Stanhope Road, Whiteleas Shops, Boldon ASDA, Cotswolds Estate (Every 30 MIns)
553: South Shields, Laygate, Chichester, Hospital, Whiteleas Shops, Boldon ASDA, Boldon Cineworld (Every 30 MIns)
Combined up to Every 7-8 Mins Between Shields, Chichester, Whiteleas & Boldon ASDA
(15 Oct 2021, 5:53 pm)ASX_Terranova New Services for South ShieldsSee i like this suggestion based on your numbering,because South Tyneside used to be 5**, you could also re-number the 26/27 to 526/527,the 9 to 559
[b]503 & 504[/b]
Same as SNE SS 3 & 4
[b][u]507 & 508[/u][/b]
Same as SNE SS 7 & 8
510 & 511
South Shields, Bents Park, Horsley Hill, Marsden, McAnay Avenue, Hospital, Biddick Hall, Simonside, Stanhope Road, Chichester, Laygate, Trinity & South Shields
510 Clockwise (Every 30 MIns)
511 Anti-Clockwise (Every 30 Mins)
512
Same as SNE SS 12
515 & 516
South Shields, The Lawe, Lakes Avenue, Horsley Hill, Centenary Avenue, Harton Nook, Harton Moor, Tyne Dock, Templetown, South Shields
515 Clockwise (Hourly)
516 Anti-Clockwise (Hourly)
518, 526 & 528
518: South Shields, Chichester, Stanhope Road, Simonside, Brockley Whins, Edinbrugh Road, Low Simonside (Every 15 MIns)
526: South Shields, Chichester, Hospital, Simonside, Brockley Whins, Edinbrugh Road, Hill Park, Jarrow, Hebburn, Hartleyburn Estate, Monkton Lane, Luke's Lane (Every 30 MIns)
528: South Shields, Chichester, Hospital, Simonside, Brockley Whins, Edinbrugh Road, York Avenue, Jarrow, Hebburn, Hartleyburn Estate, Monkton Lane, Luke's Lane (Every 30 MIns)
Combined up to Every 7-8 Mins Between Shields, Chichester, Simonside, Brockley Whins & Edinbrugh Road.
530
Same as SNE SS 30
533
Stopping Version of SNE SS X20 with Longer Simonside Diversion and Increased 20 MIns Frequency
543 & 544
543: South Shields, Westoe, Tyne Dock, Jarrow, Hedgeley Road, Hebburn, Monkton Lane, Heworth (Every 30 MIns
544: South Shields, Westoe, King George Road, Hospital, Tyne Dock, Jarrow, Hedgeley Road, Hebburn, Monkton Lane, Washington Galleries (Every 30 MIns)
Combined up to Every 15 Mins Between South Shields, Tyne Dock, Jarrow, Hedgeley Road, Hebburn & Monkton Lane
550, 551, 552 & 553
550: Same as 50 but diverted to serve Westoe & Whiteleas Shops
551: Existing 5
552: South Shields, Laygate, Chichester, Stanhope Road, Whiteleas Shops, Boldon ASDA, Cotswolds Estate (Every 30 MIns)
553: South Shields, Laygate, Chichester, Hospital, Whiteleas Shops, Boldon ASDA, Boldon Cineworld (Every 30 MIns)
Combined up to Every 7-8 Mins Between Shields, Chichester, Whiteleas & Boldon ASDA
(15 Oct 2021, 5:53 pm)ASX_Terranova New Services for South ShieldsSee i like this suggestion based on your numbering,because South Tyneside used to be 5**, you could also re-number the 26/27 to 526/527,the 9 to 559
[b]503 & 504[/b]
Same as SNE SS 3 & 4
[b][u]507 & 508[/u][/b]
Same as SNE SS 7 & 8
510 & 511
South Shields, Bents Park, Horsley Hill, Marsden, McAnay Avenue, Hospital, Biddick Hall, Simonside, Stanhope Road, Chichester, Laygate, Trinity & South Shields
510 Clockwise (Every 30 MIns)
511 Anti-Clockwise (Every 30 Mins)
512
Same as SNE SS 12
515 & 516
South Shields, The Lawe, Lakes Avenue, Horsley Hill, Centenary Avenue, Harton Nook, Harton Moor, Tyne Dock, Templetown, South Shields
515 Clockwise (Hourly)
516 Anti-Clockwise (Hourly)
518, 526 & 528
518: South Shields, Chichester, Stanhope Road, Simonside, Brockley Whins, Edinbrugh Road, Low Simonside (Every 15 MIns)
526: South Shields, Chichester, Hospital, Simonside, Brockley Whins, Edinbrugh Road, Hill Park, Jarrow, Hebburn, Hartleyburn Estate, Monkton Lane, Luke's Lane (Every 30 MIns)
528: South Shields, Chichester, Hospital, Simonside, Brockley Whins, Edinbrugh Road, York Avenue, Jarrow, Hebburn, Hartleyburn Estate, Monkton Lane, Luke's Lane (Every 30 MIns)
Combined up to Every 7-8 Mins Between Shields, Chichester, Simonside, Brockley Whins & Edinbrugh Road.
530
Same as SNE SS 30
533
Stopping Version of SNE SS X20 with Longer Simonside Diversion and Increased 20 MIns Frequency
543 & 544
543: South Shields, Westoe, Tyne Dock, Jarrow, Hedgeley Road, Hebburn, Monkton Lane, Heworth (Every 30 MIns
544: South Shields, Westoe, King George Road, Hospital, Tyne Dock, Jarrow, Hedgeley Road, Hebburn, Monkton Lane, Washington Galleries (Every 30 MIns)
Combined up to Every 15 Mins Between South Shields, Tyne Dock, Jarrow, Hedgeley Road, Hebburn & Monkton Lane
550, 551, 552 & 553
550: Same as 50 but diverted to serve Westoe & Whiteleas Shops
551: Existing 5
552: South Shields, Laygate, Chichester, Stanhope Road, Whiteleas Shops, Boldon ASDA, Cotswolds Estate (Every 30 MIns)
553: South Shields, Laygate, Chichester, Hospital, Whiteleas Shops, Boldon ASDA, Boldon Cineworld (Every 30 MIns)
Combined up to Every 7-8 Mins Between Shields, Chichester, Whiteleas & Boldon ASDA
