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big mac



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05 Jan 2020, 3:54 pm #681
(05 Jan 2020, 1:33 pm)Andreos1 All you need to do is give punters the alternative if turning some at Gateshead. 
I'd suggest having the longer distance stuff continue to Newcastle and then when the corridor is shared with local/shorter services - punters have the option of getting a 57 from the QE to Gateshead or a 56 all the way through. 
Rather than the two follow each other all the way from the QE to Newcastle and then back the same way.
All that would probably happen there is overcrowding on the 56 as people waiting on Old Durham Road would just let the 57 go past to avoid having to change at Gateshead to go to Newcastle.
big mac
05 Jan 2020, 3:54 pm #681

(05 Jan 2020, 1:33 pm)Andreos1 All you need to do is give punters the alternative if turning some at Gateshead. 
I'd suggest having the longer distance stuff continue to Newcastle and then when the corridor is shared with local/shorter services - punters have the option of getting a 57 from the QE to Gateshead or a 56 all the way through. 
Rather than the two follow each other all the way from the QE to Newcastle and then back the same way.
All that would probably happen there is overcrowding on the 56 as people waiting on Old Durham Road would just let the 57 go past to avoid having to change at Gateshead to go to Newcastle.

S830OFT



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05 Jan 2020, 4:53 pm #682
An extension to my suggestion for the Shuttle service, all Nexus & GNE tickets accepted...


S830OFT
05 Jan 2020, 4:53 pm #682

An extension to my suggestion for the Shuttle service, all Nexus & GNE tickets accepted...



Andreos1



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05 Jan 2020, 4:57 pm #683
(05 Jan 2020, 3:54 pm)big mac All that would probably happen there is overcrowding on the 56 as people waiting on Old Durham Road would just let the 57 go past to avoid having to change at Gateshead to go to Newcastle.

Over-crowding on the 56, cos the demand between the QE and Newcastle on the 57 is too much? Really?

Even if it was (which I doubt is the case), there's the X1 and even the 25 and 28 to pick up any overspill from the overcrowded 56.
It's not as if the combined 13/14 buses ph from the QE - Newcastle, isn't enough to pick up those percentage of punters letting a 57 go past, cos they want to go to Newcastle.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
05 Jan 2020, 4:57 pm #683

(05 Jan 2020, 3:54 pm)big mac All that would probably happen there is overcrowding on the 56 as people waiting on Old Durham Road would just let the 57 go past to avoid having to change at Gateshead to go to Newcastle.

Over-crowding on the 56, cos the demand between the QE and Newcastle on the 57 is too much? Really?

Even if it was (which I doubt is the case), there's the X1 and even the 25 and 28 to pick up any overspill from the overcrowded 56.
It's not as if the combined 13/14 buses ph from the QE - Newcastle, isn't enough to pick up those percentage of punters letting a 57 go past, cos they want to go to Newcastle.


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

05 Jan 2020, 10:22 pm #684
(05 Jan 2020, 3:54 pm)big mac All that would probably happen there is overcrowding on the 56 as people waiting on Old Durham Road would just let the 57 go past to avoid having to change at Gateshead to go to Newcastle.

A lot of people already let the 57 go when they see a 56 behind for some reason, even though the 56 is normally already quite full when coming down Old Durham Road. I asked someone once why they didn't stop the 57, her response was "I don't like Single Deckers".
deanmachine
05 Jan 2020, 10:22 pm #684

(05 Jan 2020, 3:54 pm)big mac All that would probably happen there is overcrowding on the 56 as people waiting on Old Durham Road would just let the 57 go past to avoid having to change at Gateshead to go to Newcastle.

A lot of people already let the 57 go when they see a 56 behind for some reason, even though the 56 is normally already quite full when coming down Old Durham Road. I asked someone once why they didn't stop the 57, her response was "I don't like Single Deckers".

Rob44



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06 Jan 2020, 11:07 am #685
I let the 56/x1 go by and get the 57 as its 90p cheaper to town from the same bus stop!!!
Rob44
06 Jan 2020, 11:07 am #685

I let the 56/x1 go by and get the 57 as its 90p cheaper to town from the same bus stop!!!

06 Jan 2020, 11:41 am #686
(06 Jan 2020, 11:07 am)Rob44 I let the 56/x1 go by and get the 57 as its 90p cheaper to town from the same bus stop!!!

That baffles me too, when they're shocked how much more expensive the 56 is, I make a point of saying the same journey is £1.70 on the 57.
deanmachine
06 Jan 2020, 11:41 am #686

(06 Jan 2020, 11:07 am)Rob44 I let the 56/x1 go by and get the 57 as its 90p cheaper to town from the same bus stop!!!

That baffles me too, when they're shocked how much more expensive the 56 is, I make a point of saying the same journey is £1.70 on the 57.

Chris 1



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06 Jan 2020, 12:47 pm #687
(06 Jan 2020, 11:07 am)Rob44 I let the 56/x1 go by and get the 57 as its 90p cheaper to town from the same bus stop!!!

I'm the opposite if the times align - I'll aim for an X1 non stop down Mount Sheriff.  Day ticket job for me so price not an issue.  Many a time I see people  frantically trying to track an X1 when they see a stopping service approaching.
Chris 1
06 Jan 2020, 12:47 pm #687

(06 Jan 2020, 11:07 am)Rob44 I let the 56/x1 go by and get the 57 as its 90p cheaper to town from the same bus stop!!!

I'm the opposite if the times align - I'll aim for an X1 non stop down Mount Sheriff.  Day ticket job for me so price not an issue.  Many a time I see people  frantically trying to track an X1 when they see a stopping service approaching.

08 Jan 2020, 7:21 pm #688
Service X44: Newcastle - Central Station - Fenham - Denton Burn - Whickham View - Blaydon - Rowlands Gill - Blackhall Mill
OrangeArrow49
08 Jan 2020, 7:21 pm #688

Service X44: Newcastle - Central Station - Fenham - Denton Burn - Whickham View - Blaydon - Rowlands Gill - Blackhall Mill

09 Jan 2020, 5:03 pm #689
X88: Washington Galleries - Gateshead Interchange - Newcastle Central Station

Providing new direct links to Gateshead and Newcastle, whilst maintaining a link to Metrocentre and Newcastle by changing buses at Gateshead Interchange or Newcastle Central Station.
OrangeArrow49
09 Jan 2020, 5:03 pm #689

X88: Washington Galleries - Gateshead Interchange - Newcastle Central Station

Providing new direct links to Gateshead and Newcastle, whilst maintaining a link to Metrocentre and Newcastle by changing buses at Gateshead Interchange or Newcastle Central Station.

11 Jan 2020, 11:29 am #690
Would take up too much room in a single post, so:

http://asxterranova.home.blog/2020/01/11...bus-ideas/

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ASX_Terranova
11 Jan 2020, 11:29 am #690

Would take up too much room in a single post, so:

http://asxterranova.home.blog/2020/01/11...bus-ideas/


Twitter: @ASX_Terranova
Blog: https://asxterranova.home.blog/

idiot



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11 Jan 2020, 11:56 am #691
Interesting post thanks for the read.
idiot
11 Jan 2020, 11:56 am #691

Interesting post thanks for the read.

V514DFT



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11 Jan 2020, 3:51 pm #692
Lots of route numbers that are already in use by GNE

Kind Regards
Tez
V514DFT
11 Jan 2020, 3:51 pm #692

Lots of route numbers that are already in use by GNE


Kind Regards
Tez

GNE6312



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14 Jan 2020, 8:11 pm #693
Any GNE service duplicating an arriva service would cause another bus was and I don't think passengers could be bothered with that again.
GNE6312
14 Jan 2020, 8:11 pm #693

Any GNE service duplicating an arriva service would cause another bus was and I don't think passengers could be bothered with that again.

26 Jan 2020, 2:13 pm #694
Reinstate the 183/77. Or any direct service between Washington & Metrocentre
Extend a 33 to The Galleries via Doxford Park and another to Houghton. Would Bring Back 4 buses an hour from sunderland to the herringtons.

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ASX_Terranova
26 Jan 2020, 2:13 pm #694

Reinstate the 183/77. Or any direct service between Washington & Metrocentre
Extend a 33 to The Galleries via Doxford Park and another to Houghton. Would Bring Back 4 buses an hour from sunderland to the herringtons.


Twitter: @ASX_Terranova
Blog: https://asxterranova.home.blog/

cbma06



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26 Jan 2020, 2:33 pm #695
(26 Jan 2020, 2:13 pm)ASX_Terranova Reinstate the 183/77. Or any direct service between Washington & Metrocentre
Extend a 33 to The Galleries via Doxford Park and another to Houghton. Would Bring Back 4 buses an hour from sunderland to the herringtons.


The 33 been down before, but as 37/38 didn’t end well , what’s wrong with X1 and X66 maybe direct service from Washington to Metrocentre is not profitable with only 1 or 2 who will use it, nothing wrong with hopping aboard a X1 to Gateshead then jump on board the X66, direct services are non existent these days as there’s a reason why, why don’t you email GNE your suggestions and then there will tell you why your suggestions will not work.


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cbma06
26 Jan 2020, 2:33 pm #695

(26 Jan 2020, 2:13 pm)ASX_Terranova Reinstate the 183/77. Or any direct service between Washington & Metrocentre
Extend a 33 to The Galleries via Doxford Park and another to Houghton. Would Bring Back 4 buses an hour from sunderland to the herringtons.


The 33 been down before, but as 37/38 didn’t end well , what’s wrong with X1 and X66 maybe direct service from Washington to Metrocentre is not profitable with only 1 or 2 who will use it, nothing wrong with hopping aboard a X1 to Gateshead then jump on board the X66, direct services are non existent these days as there’s a reason why, why don’t you email GNE your suggestions and then there will tell you why your suggestions will not work.


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Malarkey



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26 Jan 2020, 9:18 pm #696
Q3 - North Shields - Billy Mill - North Tyneside Hospital - Cobalt - Wallsend - Walker - St Peter's Basin - Ouseburn - Quayside - Newcastle City Centre - Gosforth - Regent Centre - Great Park - Wideopen - Killingworth
Q4 - North Shields - Royal Quays - Howdon - Roshill - Wallsend - Walker - St Peter's Basin - Ouseburn - Quayside - Newcastle City Centre - Gosforth - Regent Centre - Great Park - Wideopen - Dinnington - Newcastle Airport - Kingston Park
Every 15 Minutes Combined Monday to Saturday, Every 30 Minutes on a Sunday

42 - Kingston Park - Newcastle Airport - Dinnington - Wideopen - Annitsford - Burradon - Killingworth - Forest Hall - West Moor - Quorum Business Park - Four Lane Ends - Longbenton - Benton Asda - Wallend
42A - Killingworth - Forest Hall - Benton Asda - Wallend
Every 30 Minutes Monday to Saturday, Service 42 operating Hourly on a Sunday only
Malarkey
26 Jan 2020, 9:18 pm #696

Q3 - North Shields - Billy Mill - North Tyneside Hospital - Cobalt - Wallsend - Walker - St Peter's Basin - Ouseburn - Quayside - Newcastle City Centre - Gosforth - Regent Centre - Great Park - Wideopen - Killingworth
Q4 - North Shields - Royal Quays - Howdon - Roshill - Wallsend - Walker - St Peter's Basin - Ouseburn - Quayside - Newcastle City Centre - Gosforth - Regent Centre - Great Park - Wideopen - Dinnington - Newcastle Airport - Kingston Park
Every 15 Minutes Combined Monday to Saturday, Every 30 Minutes on a Sunday

42 - Kingston Park - Newcastle Airport - Dinnington - Wideopen - Annitsford - Burradon - Killingworth - Forest Hall - West Moor - Quorum Business Park - Four Lane Ends - Longbenton - Benton Asda - Wallend
42A - Killingworth - Forest Hall - Benton Asda - Wallend
Every 30 Minutes Monday to Saturday, Service 42 operating Hourly on a Sunday only

26 Jan 2020, 9:29 pm #697
(26 Jan 2020, 2:33 pm)cbma06 The 33 been down before, but as 37/38 didn’t end well , what’s wrong with X1 and X66 maybe direct service from Washington to Metrocentre is not profitable with only 1 or 2 who will use it, nothing wrong with hopping aboard a X1 to Gateshead then jump on board the X66, direct services are non existent these days as there’s a reason why, why don’t you email GNE your suggestions and then there will tell you why your suggestions will not work.


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Unless you have a day ticket, direct services are a lot cheaper than having to change.

A single on the X1 from Washington to Gateshead is £3.60. The X66 from Gateshead to Metrocentre is £3.10. That's £6.70 to go ~10 miles.

A single ticket on the X21 from Tindale Crescent to Newcastle, a journey of nearly 30 miles is only £5.30. A return is only £6.50 so you can go from Bishop Auckland to Newcastle, and back, for less than Washington to Metrocentre!

If we look at it cynically, the reason why direct services are none existent is because not having a direct service promotes the use of more expensive day tickets!
streetdeckfan
26 Jan 2020, 9:29 pm #697

(26 Jan 2020, 2:33 pm)cbma06 The 33 been down before, but as 37/38 didn’t end well , what’s wrong with X1 and X66 maybe direct service from Washington to Metrocentre is not profitable with only 1 or 2 who will use it, nothing wrong with hopping aboard a X1 to Gateshead then jump on board the X66, direct services are non existent these days as there’s a reason why, why don’t you email GNE your suggestions and then there will tell you why your suggestions will not work.


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Unless you have a day ticket, direct services are a lot cheaper than having to change.

A single on the X1 from Washington to Gateshead is £3.60. The X66 from Gateshead to Metrocentre is £3.10. That's £6.70 to go ~10 miles.

A single ticket on the X21 from Tindale Crescent to Newcastle, a journey of nearly 30 miles is only £5.30. A return is only £6.50 so you can go from Bishop Auckland to Newcastle, and back, for less than Washington to Metrocentre!

If we look at it cynically, the reason why direct services are none existent is because not having a direct service promotes the use of more expensive day tickets!

BusLoverMum



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26 Jan 2020, 9:51 pm #698
(26 Jan 2020, 9:29 pm)streetdeckfan Unless you have a day ticket, direct services are a lot cheaper than having to change.

A single on the X1 from Washington to Gateshead is £3.60. The X66 from Gateshead to Metrocentre is £3.10. That's £6.70 to go ~10 miles.

A single ticket on the X21 from Tindale Crescent to Newcastle, a journey of nearly 30 miles is only £5.30. A return is only £6.50 so you can go from Bishop Auckland to Newcastle, and back, for less than Washington to Metrocentre!

If we look at it cynically, the reason why direct services are none existent is because not having a direct service promotes the use of more expensive day tickets!
But a castles day saver is £6.30 so cheaper than a return.
BusLoverMum
26 Jan 2020, 9:51 pm #698

(26 Jan 2020, 9:29 pm)streetdeckfan Unless you have a day ticket, direct services are a lot cheaper than having to change.

A single on the X1 from Washington to Gateshead is £3.60. The X66 from Gateshead to Metrocentre is £3.10. That's £6.70 to go ~10 miles.

A single ticket on the X21 from Tindale Crescent to Newcastle, a journey of nearly 30 miles is only £5.30. A return is only £6.50 so you can go from Bishop Auckland to Newcastle, and back, for less than Washington to Metrocentre!

If we look at it cynically, the reason why direct services are none existent is because not having a direct service promotes the use of more expensive day tickets!
But a castles day saver is £6.30 so cheaper than a return.

26 Jan 2020, 10:14 pm #699
(26 Jan 2020, 9:51 pm)BusLoverMum But a castles day saver is £6.30 so cheaper than a return.

I think you'll find it's called the X-lines X21 saver now Wink 

I do think the point I was trying to make remains the same though
streetdeckfan
26 Jan 2020, 10:14 pm #699

(26 Jan 2020, 9:51 pm)BusLoverMum But a castles day saver is £6.30 so cheaper than a return.

I think you'll find it's called the X-lines X21 saver now Wink 

I do think the point I was trying to make remains the same though

26 Jan 2020, 10:22 pm #700
I would rather shop in eldon square, because i think the x66 gets too crowded.
Would Increasing X1 and diverting it over to the Metrocentre work. Maybe off peak X1A's.
Or X22 to The Galleries, Withdraw X88 as well.

(26 Jan 2020, 2:33 pm)cbma06 The 33 been down before, but as 37/38 didn’t end well , what’s wrong with X1 and X66 maybe direct service from Washington to Metrocentre is not profitable with only 1 or 2 who will use it, nothing wrong with hopping aboard a X1 to Gateshead then jump on board the X66, direct services are non existent these days as there’s a reason why, why don’t you email GNE your suggestions and then there will tell you why your suggestions will not work.


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Has removing the 36 in may 2019, caused any issues. The Herringtons have gone from 6 buses to two to sunderland. Even around 2002 you had the 142, 160, 161, 163 & 164.
Edited 26 Jan 2020, 10:24 pm by ASX_Terranova.

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ASX_Terranova
26 Jan 2020, 10:22 pm #700

I would rather shop in eldon square, because i think the x66 gets too crowded.
Would Increasing X1 and diverting it over to the Metrocentre work. Maybe off peak X1A's.
Or X22 to The Galleries, Withdraw X88 as well.


(26 Jan 2020, 2:33 pm)cbma06 The 33 been down before, but as 37/38 didn’t end well , what’s wrong with X1 and X66 maybe direct service from Washington to Metrocentre is not profitable with only 1 or 2 who will use it, nothing wrong with hopping aboard a X1 to Gateshead then jump on board the X66, direct services are non existent these days as there’s a reason why, why don’t you email GNE your suggestions and then there will tell you why your suggestions will not work.


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Has removing the 36 in may 2019, caused any issues. The Herringtons have gone from 6 buses to two to sunderland. Even around 2002 you had the 142, 160, 161, 163 & 164.


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