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01 Feb 2021, 3:59 am #1,121
I may seem a bit odd to say this. But I think the 42/42A route needs to be changed. From the range roundabout then to Benton Asda then Wallsend they follow the exact same route. Plus the 42A from Kingston Park to Wallsend seems far doesn't it. The 42A route is long enough getting to Four Lane Ends. Which is what the 353 route was. Over the years. The 101 353 and 42A all followed the same route no change apart from the 353 stop serving the airport for a while. Just my opinion
MichealAaron
01 Feb 2021, 3:59 am #1,121

I may seem a bit odd to say this. But I think the 42/42A route needs to be changed. From the range roundabout then to Benton Asda then Wallsend they follow the exact same route. Plus the 42A from Kingston Park to Wallsend seems far doesn't it. The 42A route is long enough getting to Four Lane Ends. Which is what the 353 route was. Over the years. The 101 353 and 42A all followed the same route no change apart from the 353 stop serving the airport for a while. Just my opinion

01 Feb 2021, 4:11 am #1,122
In my opinion I still see the 311 pointless. Reason why. 
1. It follows the 310 route to hadrian park
2. The 310 used to serve hadrian park on a nighttime and Sunday before the service 311 Sunday and evening route was introduced
3. I barely see anyone use the 311 to hadrian park. Most of them get of at Tyne Met or Coast road anyway or I might be missing something. 
Going of the post about the 311 going to Wallsend now that I'd like to see
MichealAaron
01 Feb 2021, 4:11 am #1,122

In my opinion I still see the 311 pointless. Reason why. 
1. It follows the 310 route to hadrian park
2. The 310 used to serve hadrian park on a nighttime and Sunday before the service 311 Sunday and evening route was introduced
3. I barely see anyone use the 311 to hadrian park. Most of them get of at Tyne Met or Coast road anyway or I might be missing something. 
Going of the post about the 311 going to Wallsend now that I'd like to see

L469 YVK



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01 Feb 2021, 8:46 am #1,123
(01 Feb 2021, 4:11 am)MichealAaron In my opinion I still see the 311 pointless. Reason why. 
1. It follows the 310 route to hadrian park
2. The 310 used to serve hadrian park on a nighttime and Sunday before the service 311 Sunday and evening route was introduced
3. I barely see anyone use the 311 to hadrian park. Most of them get of at Tyne Met or Coast road anyway or I might be missing something. 
Going of the post about the 311 going to Wallsend now that I'd like to see
Nothing too badly wrong with the 311. It serves it's purpose and also offers a higher combined frequency with the 309 & 310 at a reduced PVR (16 from 17) whilst also maintaining a Hadrian Park to Newcastle service.

Only thing that could change is the timings to increase profit. So with the 309 & 311 interworking (310 standalone), the running order would look like this to Newcastle:

309-311-310

Towards Battle Hill would be as now though but still better the opposite way.
L469 YVK
01 Feb 2021, 8:46 am #1,123

(01 Feb 2021, 4:11 am)MichealAaron In my opinion I still see the 311 pointless. Reason why. 
1. It follows the 310 route to hadrian park
2. The 310 used to serve hadrian park on a nighttime and Sunday before the service 311 Sunday and evening route was introduced
3. I barely see anyone use the 311 to hadrian park. Most of them get of at Tyne Met or Coast road anyway or I might be missing something. 
Going of the post about the 311 going to Wallsend now that I'd like to see
Nothing too badly wrong with the 311. It serves it's purpose and also offers a higher combined frequency with the 309 & 310 at a reduced PVR (16 from 17) whilst also maintaining a Hadrian Park to Newcastle service.

Only thing that could change is the timings to increase profit. So with the 309 & 311 interworking (310 standalone), the running order would look like this to Newcastle:

309-311-310

Towards Battle Hill would be as now though but still better the opposite way.

01 Feb 2021, 10:56 am #1,124
See thats the result. The 311 server a purpose to Hadrian Park but thats it really. It follows the 310 to Hadrian park. Serving it to Wallsend would be an idea in general
MichealAaron
01 Feb 2021, 10:56 am #1,124

See thats the result. The 311 server a purpose to Hadrian Park but thats it really. It follows the 310 to Hadrian park. Serving it to Wallsend would be an idea in general

01 Feb 2021, 3:30 pm #1,125
New Idea to Merge 4 with Nexus 79. would also replace 84 between concord and Heworth

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ASX_Terranova
01 Feb 2021, 3:30 pm #1,125

New Idea to Merge 4 with Nexus 79. would also replace 84 between concord and Heworth


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V514DFT



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01 Feb 2021, 5:12 pm #1,126
Touching on a previous suggestion,the best bet for a replacement for the Howdon section of the 41 would be replacing it with the Q3,or another idea could be extending the 42/42A since the 41 is every 30 mins around Howdon anyway,and the 42/42A is every 30 mins combined,think the 41 would have to stay to serve Wallsend,Battle Hill and Hadrian Park

Kind Regards
Tez
V514DFT
01 Feb 2021, 5:12 pm #1,126

Touching on a previous suggestion,the best bet for a replacement for the Howdon section of the 41 would be replacing it with the Q3,or another idea could be extending the 42/42A since the 41 is every 30 mins around Howdon anyway,and the 42/42A is every 30 mins combined,think the 41 would have to stay to serve Wallsend,Battle Hill and Hadrian Park


Kind Regards
Tez

L469 YVK



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01 Feb 2021, 8:05 pm #1,127
(01 Feb 2021, 5:12 pm)V514DFT Touching on a previous suggestion,the best bet for a replacement for the Howdon section of the 41 would be replacing it with the Q3,or another idea could be extending the 42/42A since the 41 is every 30 mins around Howdon anyway,and the 42/42A is every 30 mins combined,think the 41 would have to stay to serve Wallsend,Battle Hill and Hadrian Park
42/42A extension would be a sensible idea as long as there is enough running time. Would make more sense than extending the 311:

- X39 & peak 309 workings could cause issues
- 2x extra minibuses vs 2x extra B9TLs? - fuel
L469 YVK
01 Feb 2021, 8:05 pm #1,127

(01 Feb 2021, 5:12 pm)V514DFT Touching on a previous suggestion,the best bet for a replacement for the Howdon section of the 41 would be replacing it with the Q3,or another idea could be extending the 42/42A since the 41 is every 30 mins around Howdon anyway,and the 42/42A is every 30 mins combined,think the 41 would have to stay to serve Wallsend,Battle Hill and Hadrian Park
42/42A extension would be a sensible idea as long as there is enough running time. Would make more sense than extending the 311:

- X39 & peak 309 workings could cause issues
- 2x extra minibuses vs 2x extra B9TLs? - fuel

V514DFT



2,251
01 Feb 2021, 8:40 pm #1,128
(01 Feb 2021, 8:05 pm)L469 YVK 42/42A extension would be a sensible idea as long as there is enough running time. Would make more sense than extending the 311:

- X39 & peak 309 workings could cause issues
- 2x extra minibuses vs 2x extra B9TLs? - fuel
Yeah,i just thought by doing that nobody is losing out that way, it would still be maintaining a 30 min frequency, rather than disturb the Q3 which is every 15 mins,and tbh Howdon doesnt really need a bus every 15 mins,just a bus that doesnt do something whacky like the current 41

Kind Regards
Tez
V514DFT
01 Feb 2021, 8:40 pm #1,128

(01 Feb 2021, 8:05 pm)L469 YVK 42/42A extension would be a sensible idea as long as there is enough running time. Would make more sense than extending the 311:

- X39 & peak 309 workings could cause issues
- 2x extra minibuses vs 2x extra B9TLs? - fuel
Yeah,i just thought by doing that nobody is losing out that way, it would still be maintaining a 30 min frequency, rather than disturb the Q3 which is every 15 mins,and tbh Howdon doesnt really need a bus every 15 mins,just a bus that doesnt do something whacky like the current 41


Kind Regards
Tez

01 Feb 2021, 9:29 pm #1,129
If the 42/42A was to be extended. At least they should be given a bus upgrade. Maybe use Scania CN230UB OmniCity or Scania OmniDekka. Would be nice to see a Scania OmniCity/ OmniDekka in the blue North Tyneside livery. Possibly upgrade the entire little coaster network with bigger buses
MichealAaron
01 Feb 2021, 9:29 pm #1,129

If the 42/42A was to be extended. At least they should be given a bus upgrade. Maybe use Scania CN230UB OmniCity or Scania OmniDekka. Would be nice to see a Scania OmniCity/ OmniDekka in the blue North Tyneside livery. Possibly upgrade the entire little coaster network with bigger buses

03 Feb 2021, 11:27 am #1,130
(01 Feb 2021, 9:29 pm)MichealAaron If the 42/42A was to be extended. At least they should be given a bus upgrade. Maybe use Scania CN230UB OmniCity or Scania OmniDekka. Would be nice to see a Scania OmniCity/ OmniDekka in the blue North Tyneside livery. Possibly upgrade the entire little coaster network with bigger buses
 the only probelm would be the demand from customers, I don't think there is enough demand for this.
logidoodah
03 Feb 2021, 11:27 am #1,130

(01 Feb 2021, 9:29 pm)MichealAaron If the 42/42A was to be extended. At least they should be given a bus upgrade. Maybe use Scania CN230UB OmniCity or Scania OmniDekka. Would be nice to see a Scania OmniCity/ OmniDekka in the blue North Tyneside livery. Possibly upgrade the entire little coaster network with bigger buses
 the only probelm would be the demand from customers, I don't think there is enough demand for this.

03 Feb 2021, 6:53 pm #1,131
Seeing the amount of breakdowns on the solos. It would see reasonable for them to be upgraded I guess. Seeing the Ex Saltwell Park streetlites over at percy main. Sending some of the little coaster for others routes would be nice to see
MichealAaron
03 Feb 2021, 6:53 pm #1,131

Seeing the amount of breakdowns on the solos. It would see reasonable for them to be upgraded I guess. Seeing the Ex Saltwell Park streetlites over at percy main. Sending some of the little coaster for others routes would be nice to see

04 Feb 2021, 10:55 am #1,132
Cooked up a little idea for the 91. with a 939 merger.

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ASX_Terranova
04 Feb 2021, 10:55 am #1,132

Cooked up a little idea for the 91. with a 939 merger.


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Blog: https://asxterranova.home.blog/

04 Feb 2021, 1:43 pm #1,133
Does anyone know the height of this bridge? A Double Decker route idea I have planned goes this way.

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ASX_Terranova
04 Feb 2021, 1:43 pm #1,133

Does anyone know the height of this bridge? A Double Decker route idea I have planned goes this way.


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04 Feb 2021, 2:00 pm #1,134
(04 Feb 2021, 1:43 pm)ASX_Terranova Does anyone know the height of this bridge? A Double Decker route idea I have planned goes this way.

If it has no markings it will be above 16 feet, which is fine for double deckers.
deanmachine
04 Feb 2021, 2:00 pm #1,134

(04 Feb 2021, 1:43 pm)ASX_Terranova Does anyone know the height of this bridge? A Double Decker route idea I have planned goes this way.

If it has no markings it will be above 16 feet, which is fine for double deckers.

13 Feb 2021, 10:23 am #1,135
New Idea:
  • 756/757 Route (756 Newcastle-Stanley), 757 (Stanley to Lanchester)

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ASX_Terranova
13 Feb 2021, 10:23 am #1,135

New Idea:

  • 756/757 Route (756 Newcastle-Stanley), 757 (Stanley to Lanchester)


Twitter: @ASX_Terranova
Blog: https://asxterranova.home.blog/

13 Feb 2021, 12:17 pm #1,136
I think the 42A should be taken of little coaster and be rebranded to something different. Having something like MetroLink would be good as it serves Kingston Park metro, Bank Foot Metro, Callerton Parkway Metro, Airport Metro, Four Lane Ends, Metro, Wallsend Metro. I wouldn't class it as little coaster anymore. Maybe when it went to North Shields or am I missing the whole Coaster thing in the name
MichealAaron
13 Feb 2021, 12:17 pm #1,136

I think the 42A should be taken of little coaster and be rebranded to something different. Having something like MetroLink would be good as it serves Kingston Park metro, Bank Foot Metro, Callerton Parkway Metro, Airport Metro, Four Lane Ends, Metro, Wallsend Metro. I wouldn't class it as little coaster anymore. Maybe when it went to North Shields or am I missing the whole Coaster thing in the name

V514DFT



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13 Feb 2021, 6:14 pm #1,137
(13 Feb 2021, 12:17 pm)MichealAaron I think the 42A should be taken of little coaster and be rebranded to something different. Having something like MetroLink would be good as it serves Kingston Park metro, Bank Foot Metro, Callerton Parkway Metro, Airport Metro, Four Lane Ends, Metro, Wallsend Metro. I wouldn't class it as little coaster anymore. Maybe when it went to North Shields or am I missing the whole Coaster thing in the name
You'd have to rebrand the 42 aswell,personally i dont know why it was ever branded 'little coaster', i wouldnt class North Shields as the Coast,so in my eyes the only one to fit with 'little coaster' is the 11,but thats a matter of opinion, tbh i think the whole 'little coaster' network is dead in the water now after all the changes that happened last year, hopefully (after covid dies down) GNE see sense and review it,but i wont hold my breath

Kind Regards
Tez
V514DFT
13 Feb 2021, 6:14 pm #1,137

(13 Feb 2021, 12:17 pm)MichealAaron I think the 42A should be taken of little coaster and be rebranded to something different. Having something like MetroLink would be good as it serves Kingston Park metro, Bank Foot Metro, Callerton Parkway Metro, Airport Metro, Four Lane Ends, Metro, Wallsend Metro. I wouldn't class it as little coaster anymore. Maybe when it went to North Shields or am I missing the whole Coaster thing in the name
You'd have to rebrand the 42 aswell,personally i dont know why it was ever branded 'little coaster', i wouldnt class North Shields as the Coast,so in my eyes the only one to fit with 'little coaster' is the 11,but thats a matter of opinion, tbh i think the whole 'little coaster' network is dead in the water now after all the changes that happened last year, hopefully (after covid dies down) GNE see sense and review it,but i wont hold my breath


Kind Regards
Tez

13 Feb 2021, 6:56 pm #1,138
I agree. The Little Coaster network change ruined the name. Like the 42/42A got cut from North Shields. There's now only one way round Howden on the 41. I think an overhaul needs doing. Maybe change the branding to something else
MichealAaron
13 Feb 2021, 6:56 pm #1,138

I agree. The Little Coaster network change ruined the name. Like the 42/42A got cut from North Shields. There's now only one way round Howden on the 41. I think an overhaul needs doing. Maybe change the branding to something else

Storx



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13 Feb 2021, 8:38 pm #1,139
(13 Feb 2021, 12:17 pm)MichealAaron I think the 42A should be taken of little coaster and be rebranded to something different. Having something like MetroLink would be good as it serves Kingston Park metro, Bank Foot Metro, Callerton Parkway Metro, Airport Metro, Four Lane Ends, Metro, Wallsend Metro. I wouldn't class it as little coaster anymore. Maybe when it went to North Shields or am I missing the whole Coaster thing in the name

The original branding is about connecting with the Coaster services and the parallel sections in Wallsend between Howdon and Wallsend which the 11, 40, 41 and 42/42A used to do and is the local bus services of Wallsend (replacement for Wallsend Links / North Tyne Links)

The 42/42A isn't too bad as it would make sense to connect with the Coaster at Wallsend to go places on the Southern sections.

The 19 is the one that's confused as it doesn't overlap or connect with the Coaster anywhere and at no point on the route does it make sense to do so either and at the same time doesn't serve Wallsend. It's also the only bus in the majority of the places that it serves that doesn't serve the coast at all and should be unbranded or have it's old Route 19 / Cobalt Connect branding which made sense.
Storx
13 Feb 2021, 8:38 pm #1,139

(13 Feb 2021, 12:17 pm)MichealAaron I think the 42A should be taken of little coaster and be rebranded to something different. Having something like MetroLink would be good as it serves Kingston Park metro, Bank Foot Metro, Callerton Parkway Metro, Airport Metro, Four Lane Ends, Metro, Wallsend Metro. I wouldn't class it as little coaster anymore. Maybe when it went to North Shields or am I missing the whole Coaster thing in the name

The original branding is about connecting with the Coaster services and the parallel sections in Wallsend between Howdon and Wallsend which the 11, 40, 41 and 42/42A used to do and is the local bus services of Wallsend (replacement for Wallsend Links / North Tyne Links)

The 42/42A isn't too bad as it would make sense to connect with the Coaster at Wallsend to go places on the Southern sections.

The 19 is the one that's confused as it doesn't overlap or connect with the Coaster anywhere and at no point on the route does it make sense to do so either and at the same time doesn't serve Wallsend. It's also the only bus in the majority of the places that it serves that doesn't serve the coast at all and should be unbranded or have it's old Route 19 / Cobalt Connect branding which made sense.

13 Feb 2021, 8:44 pm #1,140
I think the 42/42A should be rebranded to something like Little Shopper or MetroLink
MichealAaron
13 Feb 2021, 8:44 pm #1,140

I think the 42/42A should be rebranded to something like Little Shopper or MetroLink

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