Go North East: Service Suggestions v2
Go North East: Service Suggestions v2
The problem with GNE running an express on the Coast Road is that in order to gain more loyalty, they'd need to run an evening & Sunday service. That alone is a big risk also taking into account Lynn Road & Billy Mill to Station Road is deep Arriva territory.
Arriva could give a Monday to Saturday service a go but I doubt they will.
I still reckon there will be rationalisation on the Coast Road post Covid particularly with Arriva. They could have the same if not, very similar capacity with 4-5 less vehicles and approx 20% operational cost savings. A simple 10 minute Billy Mill - Newcastle service with 306 & 308 every 20 mins each. 306 also withdrawn from Battle Hill (for reliability).
Arriva haven't brought the X6 back and the Saturday service is every 20 minutes on both routes and probably for a reason. When lack of social distancing allows, a 20 minute service would be more than enough.
Gone are the glory days of Cityzens, Smartie seat / Palatines and Screaming Cummins L10 Voith ECW Leyland Olympians.
Gone are the days arriva used to run tons of bus services. You could get from Dinnington to Whitley Bay by one bus. Newcastle to Cramlington had at least way more than 10 services going there
Now is probably the worst time to make wholesale changes to the network introduce new regular services. Passenger numbers need to be given the opportunity to return to near-normal, so that there's accurate data available for planning.
I highly doubt we will see new services or major services changes like re routes or withdraw of services till at least September when all schools go back. As that's when Go North East and Arriva do the changes
(05 May 2021, 7:57 pm)Micheal Aaron Gone are the days arriva used to run tons of bus services. You could get from Dinnington to Whitley Bay by one bus. Newcastle to Cramlington had at least way more than 10 services going there
(05 May 2021, 7:57 pm)Micheal Aaron Gone are the days arriva used to run tons of bus services. You could get from Dinnington to Whitley Bay by one bus. Newcastle to Cramlington had at least way more than 10 services going there
Not forgetting a decent train service into Newcastle too.
Even though our work lives have changed, myself and the team of 350 I manage will not be returning to the office, I still think cobalt will warrant a decent service level with sensible ticketing options
I'm going back to when bargin bus was in. Dudley and Annitsford had tons of services. I remember the 40/41/42/43/43A/101/350/351/X42/X43 amongst others
(05 May 2021, 9:36 pm)Micheal Aaron I'm going back to when bargin bus was in. Dudley and Annitsford had tons of services. I remember the 40/41/42/43/43A/101/350/351/X42/X43 amongst others
(05 May 2021, 9:36 pm)Micheal Aaron I'm going back to when bargin bus was in. Dudley and Annitsford had tons of services. I remember the 40/41/42/43/43A/101/350/351/X42/X43 amongst others
(05 May 2021, 9:36 pm)Micheal Aaron I'm going back to when bargin bus was in. Dudley and Annitsford had tons of services. I remember the 40/41/42/43/43A/101/350/351/X42/X43 amongst others
(05 May 2021, 9:36 pm)Micheal Aaron I'm going back to when bargin bus was in. Dudley and Annitsford had tons of services. I remember the 40/41/42/43/43A/101/350/351/X42/X43 amongst others
(05 May 2021, 7:57 pm)Micheal Aaron Gone are the days arriva used to run tons of bus services. You could get from Dinnington to Whitley Bay by one bus. Newcastle to Cramlington had at least way more than 10 services going there
Having lived in Hazlerigg for 30 years I cant ever remember a direct bus from Dinnington to whitley. The 44 only went as far as Hazlerigg. The 44b ran by 0k on behalf oif the PTE went to dinniginton. I do agree with what your saying about arriva cutting back though
(05 May 2021, 7:57 pm)Micheal Aaron Gone are the days arriva used to run tons of bus services. You could get from Dinnington to Whitley Bay by one bus. Newcastle to Cramlington had at least way more than 10 services going there
Having lived in Hazlerigg for 30 years I cant ever remember a direct bus from Dinnington to whitley. The 44 only went as far as Hazlerigg. The 44b ran by 0k on behalf oif the PTE went to dinniginton. I do agree with what your saying about arriva cutting back though
(05 May 2021, 4:14 pm)Storx Don't really see the point in it me. It's pretty much just the 308 bar it misses 4 stops or so. Also there's 9 buses an hour along Hillheads Road in Whitley yet Monkseaton 1/2 mile to the North doesn't have a bus service to Newcastle at all. Also there's no demand for another bus North of Whitley. They carry fresh air all day half the time and there's again 9 buses at the top end of Sluice already and the X7 will be quicker regardless.The metro is no good if you live in the middle of the loop. Only the 44 Was any good the X8/X9 were a pathetic waste. lets forget about Battle Hill and Cobalt there is already enough buses serving them and re introduce the old service 44 running non stop from Norham Road to Newcastle
The 44 then X8/X9 never remember which one it was done it for a bit aswell and was scrapped as there's no demand plus the GNE coach express for a bit X5'something I believe it was. The Metro will always be quicker on the Coast and more reliable aswell.
(05 May 2021, 4:14 pm)Storx Don't really see the point in it me. It's pretty much just the 308 bar it misses 4 stops or so. Also there's 9 buses an hour along Hillheads Road in Whitley yet Monkseaton 1/2 mile to the North doesn't have a bus service to Newcastle at all. Also there's no demand for another bus North of Whitley. They carry fresh air all day half the time and there's again 9 buses at the top end of Sluice already and the X7 will be quicker regardless.The metro is no good if you live in the middle of the loop. Only the 44 Was any good the X8/X9 were a pathetic waste. lets forget about Battle Hill and Cobalt there is already enough buses serving them and re introduce the old service 44 running non stop from Norham Road to Newcastle
The 44 then X8/X9 never remember which one it was done it for a bit aswell and was scrapped as there's no demand plus the GNE coach express for a bit X5'something I believe it was. The Metro will always be quicker on the Coast and more reliable aswell.
i have said this before about the 44. I was told it was stopped due to the fact it couldn't keep to time ( especially with having competition from OK travel who did the Newcastle to diningnton route). . Remember when it first started it came right through Newcastle serving stops at Newgate street and Percy Street. then it went Blackett Street and Percy Street then it followed the 306/308 route from jesmond and went passed the Civic centre to the haymarket. Also when i used to get the 44 from Newcastle to home the customer alighting at Newcastle was never many near the end so maybe customer in N tynside had found another way to get to the city?
Tbh running a service from Airport or Dinnington to Whitly Bay would be a decent service and to see if they can find a route where it can keep to its time
(06 May 2021, 12:02 pm)Micheal Aaron Tbh running a service from Airport or Dinnington to Whitly Bay would be a decent service and to see if they can find a route where it can keep to its time
(06 May 2021, 12:02 pm)Micheal Aaron Tbh running a service from Airport or Dinnington to Whitly Bay would be a decent service and to see if they can find a route where it can keep to its time
[attachment=9760 Rob44 pid='255860' dateline='1620305237']Northumbria also ran the the 46 from Whitley Bay to Gosforth (Polwarth Drive) via Shiremoor and Newcastle. Early on they ran the 601 or 602 from Killingworth to Hexham.
TBF i think it was the only route that Northumbria ran in to the city then out to another destination as one route. Bit like stagecaoch i suppose. Cant think of any arriva do now and cant see them doing it in the future.
[attachment=9760 Rob44 pid='255860' dateline='1620305237']Northumbria also ran the the 46 from Whitley Bay to Gosforth (Polwarth Drive) via Shiremoor and Newcastle. Early on they ran the 601 or 602 from Killingworth to Hexham.
TBF i think it was the only route that Northumbria ran in to the city then out to another destination as one route. Bit like stagecaoch i suppose. Cant think of any arriva do now and cant see them doing it in the future.
(07 May 2021, 8:02 am)RMF1254 Northumbria also ran the the 46 from Whitley Bay to Gosforth (Polwarth Drive) via Shiremoor and Newcastle. Early on they ran the 601 or 602 from Killingworth to Hexham.Ah yes I remember the 46. Never knew about the killingworth to hexham route though. Cheers
(07 May 2021, 8:55 am)Rob44 Ah yes I remember the 46. Never knew about the killingworth to hexham route though. CheersI can confirm that the Killingworth to Hexham service ran weekdays, every 30 minutes and was numbered 601 and 602, depending on the route it took in Hexham. Another service which you might not have known, and introduced on deregulation day was the 604/X64, again operating every 30 minutes, from North Shields - Backworth - Killingworth - Newcastle - Blaydon - Prudhoe, with variation within Prudhoe. On Sundays service 604 operated hourly, and certain journeys were extended to Stocksfield. The timetable indicated that certain Sunday journeys may continue to Hexham, although this never happened.
(07 May 2021, 8:55 am)Rob44 Ah yes I remember the 46. Never knew about the killingworth to hexham route though. CheersI can confirm that the Killingworth to Hexham service ran weekdays, every 30 minutes and was numbered 601 and 602, depending on the route it took in Hexham. Another service which you might not have known, and introduced on deregulation day was the 604/X64, again operating every 30 minutes, from North Shields - Backworth - Killingworth - Newcastle - Blaydon - Prudhoe, with variation within Prudhoe. On Sundays service 604 operated hourly, and certain journeys were extended to Stocksfield. The timetable indicated that certain Sunday journeys may continue to Hexham, although this never happened.
(07 May 2021, 11:00 am)Ex-conductor I can confirm that the Killingworth to Hexham service ran weekdays, every 30 minutes and was numbered 601 and 602, depending on the route it took in Hexham. Another service which you might not have known, and introduced on deregulation day was the 604/X64, again operating every 30 minutes, from North Shields - Backworth - Killingworth - Newcastle - Blaydon - Prudhoe, with variation within Prudhoe. On Sundays service 604 operated hourly, and certain journeys were extended to Stocksfield. The timetable indicated that certain Sunday journeys may continue to Hexham, although this never happened.Thanks, can’t remember that one.
(07 May 2021, 11:00 am)Ex-conductor I can confirm that the Killingworth to Hexham service ran weekdays, every 30 minutes and was numbered 601 and 602, depending on the route it took in Hexham. Another service which you might not have known, and introduced on deregulation day was the 604/X64, again operating every 30 minutes, from North Shields - Backworth - Killingworth - Newcastle - Blaydon - Prudhoe, with variation within Prudhoe. On Sundays service 604 operated hourly, and certain journeys were extended to Stocksfield. The timetable indicated that certain Sunday journeys may continue to Hexham, although this never happened.Thanks, can’t remember that one.
