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Dan

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31 Dec 2021, 6:01 pm #1,901
(31 Dec 2021, 5:50 pm)Bus3888 When ever I have been on the 93/94 they have realy been dead, albeit it once around 16-17:00 at Heworth with the traffic and the bus was a bit busy, nothing major. 

And imo Team Valley is the weakest Retail Park in the City Centres of Newcastle/Sunderland area. It just isn't what it used to be.


I once picked up a packet of bacon from a shop on the Team Valley Retail World in the City of Sunderland.


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Dan
31 Dec 2021, 6:01 pm #1,901

(31 Dec 2021, 5:50 pm)Bus3888 When ever I have been on the 93/94 they have realy been dead, albeit it once around 16-17:00 at Heworth with the traffic and the bus was a bit busy, nothing major. 

And imo Team Valley is the weakest Retail Park in the City Centres of Newcastle/Sunderland area. It just isn't what it used to be.


I once picked up a packet of bacon from a shop on the Team Valley Retail World in the City of Sunderland.


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MurdnunoC



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31 Dec 2021, 6:21 pm #1,902
(31 Dec 2021, 6:01 pm)Dan I once picked up a packet of bacon from a shop on the Team Valley Retail World in the City of Sunderland.


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Is that the Retail World that's adjacent to Jacky White's Market? You can get some top quality bacon in there.
MurdnunoC
31 Dec 2021, 6:21 pm #1,902

(31 Dec 2021, 6:01 pm)Dan I once picked up a packet of bacon from a shop on the Team Valley Retail World in the City of Sunderland.


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Is that the Retail World that's adjacent to Jacky White's Market? You can get some top quality bacon in there.

Dan

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31 Dec 2021, 6:26 pm #1,903
(31 Dec 2021, 6:21 pm)MurdnunoC Is that the Retail World that's adjacent to Jacky White's Market? You can get some top quality bacon in there.


It is. Kyle the Butcher sells top quality bacon - it’s next door to the 50” Samsung TV shop.

Highly recommended, and just a stones throw away from Retail World.


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Dan
31 Dec 2021, 6:26 pm #1,903

(31 Dec 2021, 6:21 pm)MurdnunoC Is that the Retail World that's adjacent to Jacky White's Market? You can get some top quality bacon in there.


It is. Kyle the Butcher sells top quality bacon - it’s next door to the 50” Samsung TV shop.

Highly recommended, and just a stones throw away from Retail World.


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MurdnunoC



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31 Dec 2021, 6:29 pm #1,904
(31 Dec 2021, 6:26 pm)Dan It is. Kyle the Butcher sells top quality bacon - it’s next door to the 50” Samsung TV shop.

Highly recommended, and just a stones throw away from Retail World.


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Excellent. I might pay a visit to Kyle the Butcher's shop to pick up a bacon sandwich the next time I visit theTeam Valley Retail World in the middle of Sunderland.

Do Lothian of Derwentside serve the area or should I use the new, Voyager Bus Group to travel there?
MurdnunoC
31 Dec 2021, 6:29 pm #1,904

(31 Dec 2021, 6:26 pm)Dan It is. Kyle the Butcher sells top quality bacon - it’s next door to the 50” Samsung TV shop.

Highly recommended, and just a stones throw away from Retail World.


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Excellent. I might pay a visit to Kyle the Butcher's shop to pick up a bacon sandwich the next time I visit theTeam Valley Retail World in the middle of Sunderland.

Do Lothian of Derwentside serve the area or should I use the new, Voyager Bus Group to travel there?

Dan

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31 Dec 2021, 6:34 pm #1,905
(31 Dec 2021, 6:29 pm)MurdnunoC Excellent. I might pay a visit to Kyle the Butcher's shop to pick up a bacon sandwich the next time I visit theTeam Valley Retail World in the middle of Sunderland.

Do Lothian of Derwentside serve the area or should I use the new, Voyager Bus Group to travel there?


Be warned that sometimes you throw the bacon away if it passes its use by date, and it makes a comeback before the next time you intended to purchase bacon from Kyle’s seven days later.

You should use the Go North East East Sunderland Loop 39 and 49 to get to Team Valley Retail World in the City of Sunderland.

My well-informed barber also tells me that there is a Team Valley Retail World in Newcastle, and it’s the 38 and 88 buses that go there. He is a reliable source.


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Dan
31 Dec 2021, 6:34 pm #1,905

(31 Dec 2021, 6:29 pm)MurdnunoC Excellent. I might pay a visit to Kyle the Butcher's shop to pick up a bacon sandwich the next time I visit theTeam Valley Retail World in the middle of Sunderland.

Do Lothian of Derwentside serve the area or should I use the new, Voyager Bus Group to travel there?


Be warned that sometimes you throw the bacon away if it passes its use by date, and it makes a comeback before the next time you intended to purchase bacon from Kyle’s seven days later.

You should use the Go North East East Sunderland Loop 39 and 49 to get to Team Valley Retail World in the City of Sunderland.

My well-informed barber also tells me that there is a Team Valley Retail World in Newcastle, and it’s the 38 and 88 buses that go there. He is a reliable source.


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31 Dec 2021, 6:43 pm #1,906
(31 Dec 2021, 6:34 pm)Dan Be warned that sometimes you throw the bacon away if it passes its use by date, and it makes a comeback before the next time you intended to purchase bacon from Kyle’s seven days later.

You should use the Go North East East Sunderland Loop 39 and 49 to get to Team Valley Retail World in the City of Sunderland.

My well-informed barber also tells me that there is a Team Valley Retail World in Newcastle, and it’s the 38 and 88 buses that go there. He is a reliable source.


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Here in Pyongyang, there was also a butcher's shop named Kyle's. Regrettably it was closed during one of the regimes purges against all things bacon. Rumour has it, the shop is operating on the black market, underground under a new name purporting to serve anything aside from bacon.
Clifton Hignett III
31 Dec 2021, 6:43 pm #1,906

(31 Dec 2021, 6:34 pm)Dan Be warned that sometimes you throw the bacon away if it passes its use by date, and it makes a comeback before the next time you intended to purchase bacon from Kyle’s seven days later.

You should use the Go North East East Sunderland Loop 39 and 49 to get to Team Valley Retail World in the City of Sunderland.

My well-informed barber also tells me that there is a Team Valley Retail World in Newcastle, and it’s the 38 and 88 buses that go there. He is a reliable source.


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Here in Pyongyang, there was also a butcher's shop named Kyle's. Regrettably it was closed during one of the regimes purges against all things bacon. Rumour has it, the shop is operating on the black market, underground under a new name purporting to serve anything aside from bacon.

31 Dec 2021, 10:05 pm #1,907
Is the 12/12A an option to get to Denton Burn/Fenham if the 684 gets withdrawn? With the 12/12A serving Elswick I am surprised it doesn't run through Benwell. A new 12/12A service merging the GNE 12/12A with the Stagecoach 12s would be interesting, creating new East to West links operating between Winlaton and Wallsend. Maybe even run to Metrocentre or Throckley.
OrangeArrow49
31 Dec 2021, 10:05 pm #1,907

Is the 12/12A an option to get to Denton Burn/Fenham if the 684 gets withdrawn? With the 12/12A serving Elswick I am surprised it doesn't run through Benwell. A new 12/12A service merging the GNE 12/12A with the Stagecoach 12s would be interesting, creating new East to West links operating between Winlaton and Wallsend. Maybe even run to Metrocentre or Throckley.

L469 YVK



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31 Dec 2021, 10:39 pm #1,908
So as we aren't quite officially in the world of BSIP yet, here is a suggestion timetable I've been working on for Cobalt & Coast services 309/310/311/X39.

Please note that this is NOT an official Go North East document. Attached is a summary of the suggested changes and a timetable. I will get around to uploading the running boards and some other information when I get the opportunity.

Suggestion timetable: 
Summary of suggested changes: 
L469 YVK
31 Dec 2021, 10:39 pm #1,908

So as we aren't quite officially in the world of BSIP yet, here is a suggestion timetable I've been working on for Cobalt & Coast services 309/310/311/X39.

Please note that this is NOT an official Go North East document. Attached is a summary of the suggested changes and a timetable. I will get around to uploading the running boards and some other information when I get the opportunity.

Suggestion timetable: 


Summary of suggested changes: 

01 Jan 2022, 1:20 am #1,909
Can I simplify the changes. Tell GNE to pick up a 1985 T&W timetable and take it from there.
Economic505
01 Jan 2022, 1:20 am #1,909

Can I simplify the changes. Tell GNE to pick up a 1985 T&W timetable and take it from there.

L469 YVK



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01 Jan 2022, 10:53 am #1,910
(01 Jan 2022, 1:20 am)Economic505 Can I simplify the changes. Tell GNE to pick up a 1985 T&W timetable and take it from there.
The intention wasn't to come up with a new route, but to refine the existing timetable including adding a small number or earlier / later journeys as well as refining the evening journeys to Hadrian Park. Not only that but also adjusting the evening ex Newcastle 309 journeys to provide a more convenient service from Cobalt towards Blyth (xx:28 rather than xx:43) as well as exploiting busier nights by running in front of the 308.
L469 YVK
01 Jan 2022, 10:53 am #1,910

(01 Jan 2022, 1:20 am)Economic505 Can I simplify the changes. Tell GNE to pick up a 1985 T&W timetable and take it from there.
The intention wasn't to come up with a new route, but to refine the existing timetable including adding a small number or earlier / later journeys as well as refining the evening journeys to Hadrian Park. Not only that but also adjusting the evening ex Newcastle 309 journeys to provide a more convenient service from Cobalt towards Blyth (xx:28 rather than xx:43) as well as exploiting busier nights by running in front of the 308.

MurdnunoC



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01 Jan 2022, 1:26 pm #1,911
(01 Jan 2022, 10:53 am)L469 YVK The intention wasn't to come up with a new route, but to refine the existing timetable including adding a small number or earlier / later journeys as well as refining the evening journeys to Hadrian Park. Not only that but also adjusting the evening ex Newcastle 309 journeys to provide a more convenient service from Cobalt towards Blyth (xx:28 rather than xx:43) as well as exploiting busier nights by running in front of the 308.

Isn't this a suggestion that you've pitched like a million times before?
MurdnunoC
01 Jan 2022, 1:26 pm #1,911

(01 Jan 2022, 10:53 am)L469 YVK The intention wasn't to come up with a new route, but to refine the existing timetable including adding a small number or earlier / later journeys as well as refining the evening journeys to Hadrian Park. Not only that but also adjusting the evening ex Newcastle 309 journeys to provide a more convenient service from Cobalt towards Blyth (xx:28 rather than xx:43) as well as exploiting busier nights by running in front of the 308.

Isn't this a suggestion that you've pitched like a million times before?

L469 YVK



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01 Jan 2022, 2:17 pm #1,912
(01 Jan 2022, 1:26 pm)MurdnunoC Isn't this a suggestion that you've pitched like a million times before?
Off the cuff but not as part of a proper suggestion timetable. The suggestion timetable also includes a change of interworking pattern meaning the 311 will carry more passengers towards Newcastle, running infront of the 310.

The xx:05 evening departures would clean up passengers especially on Friday & Saturday evenings and I doubt Arriva would move the 308 to between xx:00 and xx:04 especially on an hourly service.

The 11.35pm 310 ex Newcastle would also cleanup some of the passengers who'd normally get the 11.42pm 306.
L469 YVK
01 Jan 2022, 2:17 pm #1,912

(01 Jan 2022, 1:26 pm)MurdnunoC Isn't this a suggestion that you've pitched like a million times before?
Off the cuff but not as part of a proper suggestion timetable. The suggestion timetable also includes a change of interworking pattern meaning the 311 will carry more passengers towards Newcastle, running infront of the 310.

The xx:05 evening departures would clean up passengers especially on Friday & Saturday evenings and I doubt Arriva would move the 308 to between xx:00 and xx:04 especially on an hourly service.

The 11.35pm 310 ex Newcastle would also cleanup some of the passengers who'd normally get the 11.42pm 306.

Storx



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01 Jan 2022, 3:17 pm #1,913
(01 Jan 2022, 2:17 pm)L469 YVK Off the cuff but not as part of a proper suggestion timetable. The suggestion timetable also includes a change of interworking pattern meaning the 311 will carry more passengers towards Newcastle, running infront of the 310.

The xx:05 evening departures would clean up passengers especially on Friday & Saturday evenings and I doubt Arriva would move the 308 to between xx:00 and xx:04 especially on an hourly service.

The 11.35pm 310 ex Newcastle would also cleanup some of the passengers who'd normally get the 11.42pm 306.

I don't know whether you've been in a coma for the past few months but times are changing and it's not about petty competitions and working together.

What benefit is there for a customer having a bus to North Shields at XX:35 then XX:42 then nothing for 53 minutes.

If someone needs a bus at 10:50 for whatever reason they're not going to be waiting around until xx.35 even knowing people going to North Shields would be using the Metro anyway but that's another discussion since it's twice as quick and every 15 minutes.
Storx
01 Jan 2022, 3:17 pm #1,913

(01 Jan 2022, 2:17 pm)L469 YVK Off the cuff but not as part of a proper suggestion timetable. The suggestion timetable also includes a change of interworking pattern meaning the 311 will carry more passengers towards Newcastle, running infront of the 310.

The xx:05 evening departures would clean up passengers especially on Friday & Saturday evenings and I doubt Arriva would move the 308 to between xx:00 and xx:04 especially on an hourly service.

The 11.35pm 310 ex Newcastle would also cleanup some of the passengers who'd normally get the 11.42pm 306.

I don't know whether you've been in a coma for the past few months but times are changing and it's not about petty competitions and working together.

What benefit is there for a customer having a bus to North Shields at XX:35 then XX:42 then nothing for 53 minutes.

If someone needs a bus at 10:50 for whatever reason they're not going to be waiting around until xx.35 even knowing people going to North Shields would be using the Metro anyway but that's another discussion since it's twice as quick and every 15 minutes.

L469 YVK



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01 Jan 2022, 3:32 pm #1,914
(01 Jan 2022, 3:17 pm)Storx I don't know whether you've been in a coma for the past few months but times are changing and it's not about petty competitions and working together.

What benefit is there for a customer having a bus to North Shields at XX:35 then XX:42 then nothing for 53 minutes.

If someone needs a bus at 10:50 for whatever reason they're not going to be waiting around until xx.35 even knowing people going to North Shields would be using the Metro anyway but that's another discussion since it's twice as quick and every 15 minutes.
If you checked the suggestion timetable, the xx:35 departure is the last 310 at 11.35pm, only going as far as the Verne Road Junction (Stannington Road).

All other full evening 310's ex Newcastle Mon-Sat would depart at xx:25. Sunday evenings, not much different to now at xx:38 (currently xx:40).
L469 YVK
01 Jan 2022, 3:32 pm #1,914

(01 Jan 2022, 3:17 pm)Storx I don't know whether you've been in a coma for the past few months but times are changing and it's not about petty competitions and working together.

What benefit is there for a customer having a bus to North Shields at XX:35 then XX:42 then nothing for 53 minutes.

If someone needs a bus at 10:50 for whatever reason they're not going to be waiting around until xx.35 even knowing people going to North Shields would be using the Metro anyway but that's another discussion since it's twice as quick and every 15 minutes.
If you checked the suggestion timetable, the xx:35 departure is the last 310 at 11.35pm, only going as far as the Verne Road Junction (Stannington Road).

All other full evening 310's ex Newcastle Mon-Sat would depart at xx:25. Sunday evenings, not much different to now at xx:38 (currently xx:40).

01 Jan 2022, 3:35 pm #1,915
Would a double decker be allowed over Fatfield Bridge?

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ASX_Terranova
01 Jan 2022, 3:35 pm #1,915

Would a double decker be allowed over Fatfield Bridge?


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Adrian



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01 Jan 2022, 4:05 pm #1,916
(01 Jan 2022, 3:35 pm)ASX_Terranova Would a double decker be allowed over Fatfield Bridge?

Yes, as the height limit is 16ft. The Park View scholars bus uses it.

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01 Jan 2022, 4:05 pm #1,916

(01 Jan 2022, 3:35 pm)ASX_Terranova Would a double decker be allowed over Fatfield Bridge?

Yes, as the height limit is 16ft. The Park View scholars bus uses it.


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02 Jan 2022, 2:57 am #1,917
With the evening and Sunday X85 withdrawn from 30th January, I think I will be using the 12/12A. Perhaps a 12B could run on evenings/Sundays from Scotswood Road to West Road via Denton Road and into Newcastle. Unfortunate evenings/Sundays having different services rather than just reduced frequency. Still, I'm fortunate to have access to the 12/12A in the absence of the 684.
OrangeArrow49
02 Jan 2022, 2:57 am #1,917

With the evening and Sunday X85 withdrawn from 30th January, I think I will be using the 12/12A. Perhaps a 12B could run on evenings/Sundays from Scotswood Road to West Road via Denton Road and into Newcastle. Unfortunate evenings/Sundays having different services rather than just reduced frequency. Still, I'm fortunate to have access to the 12/12A in the absence of the 684.

02 Jan 2022, 12:35 pm #1,918
Could we see the X40 return to replace the Q3? Perhaps extend it to Kingston Park once per hour?
OrangeArrow49
02 Jan 2022, 12:35 pm #1,918

Could we see the X40 return to replace the Q3? Perhaps extend it to Kingston Park once per hour?

02 Jan 2022, 4:22 pm #1,919
Did the original X23 (Leamside Terminator) See many passengers.
Thinking about an idea for a service that goes Durham, Gilesgate Moor, Belmont, Carrville, then via A1 to Ayton, Lambton, Washington Galleries, Metrocentre & Newcastle.

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ASX_Terranova
02 Jan 2022, 4:22 pm #1,919

Did the original X23 (Leamside Terminator) See many passengers.
Thinking about an idea for a service that goes Durham, Gilesgate Moor, Belmont, Carrville, then via A1 to Ayton, Lambton, Washington Galleries, Metrocentre & Newcastle.


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02 Jan 2022, 5:08 pm #1,920
(02 Jan 2022, 4:22 pm)ASX_Terranova Did the original X23 (Leamside Terminator) See many passengers.
Thinking about an idea for a service that goes Durham, Gilesgate Moor, Belmont, Carrville, then via A1 to Ayton, Lambton, Washington Galleries, Metrocentre & Newcastle.


I can't remember the Leamside Terminator appearing anywhere in the Terminator franchise. What model was it? T800, T1000, T5000 etc.

I think I would genuinely love to see a fight between the Leamside Terminator and the West Rainton Predator. Perhaps someone could produce that movie someday...
MurdnunoC
02 Jan 2022, 5:08 pm #1,920

(02 Jan 2022, 4:22 pm)ASX_Terranova Did the original X23 (Leamside Terminator) See many passengers.
Thinking about an idea for a service that goes Durham, Gilesgate Moor, Belmont, Carrville, then via A1 to Ayton, Lambton, Washington Galleries, Metrocentre & Newcastle.


I can't remember the Leamside Terminator appearing anywhere in the Terminator franchise. What model was it? T800, T1000, T5000 etc.

I think I would genuinely love to see a fight between the Leamside Terminator and the West Rainton Predator. Perhaps someone could produce that movie someday...

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