Go North East: Service Suggestions v2
Go North East: Service Suggestions v2
(17 Aug 2022, 5:37 am)Dan Is it fucked, or is it doing better financially now than before?
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(17 Aug 2022, 5:37 am)Dan Is it fucked, or is it doing better financially now than before?
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(22 Aug 2022, 5:59 am)omnicity4659 Yeah, I prefer to drive all the way now as opposed to dump the car in Gateshead and get the X10. I'd consider something as fucked when I walk away as a regular customer.
Going to hourly is putting more money into the pockets of toll road operators TT2 and Autolink instead of GNE's.
(22 Aug 2022, 5:59 am)omnicity4659 Yeah, I prefer to drive all the way now as opposed to dump the car in Gateshead and get the X10. I'd consider something as fucked when I walk away as a regular customer.
Going to hourly is putting more money into the pockets of toll road operators TT2 and Autolink instead of GNE's.
(22 Aug 2022, 6:59 am)Dan I wonder if you are one of many, or just a few? I suppose only Go North East will have access to that level of information.Surely losing a PVR of 3 shows GNE have/are losing passengers on that route
If the latter, and the service is performing better now than before by consolidating the majority of seven buses worth of passengers into four, then I can’t see the service changing back any time soon.
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(22 Aug 2022, 6:59 am)Dan I wonder if you are one of many, or just a few? I suppose only Go North East will have access to that level of information.Surely losing a PVR of 3 shows GNE have/are losing passengers on that route
If the latter, and the service is performing better now than before by consolidating the majority of seven buses worth of passengers into four, then I can’t see the service changing back any time soon.
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(22 Aug 2022, 6:59 am)Dan I wonder if you are one of many, or just a few? I suppose only Go North East will have access to that level of information.
If the latter, and the service is performing better now than before by consolidating the majority of seven buses worth of passengers into four, then I can’t see the service changing back any time soon.
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(22 Aug 2022, 6:59 am)Dan I wonder if you are one of many, or just a few? I suppose only Go North East will have access to that level of information.
If the latter, and the service is performing better now than before by consolidating the majority of seven buses worth of passengers into four, then I can’t see the service changing back any time soon.
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(22 Aug 2022, 7:07 am)Unber43 Surely losing a PVR of 3 shows GNE have/are losing passengers on that route
(22 Aug 2022, 7:07 am)Unber43 Surely losing a PVR of 3 shows GNE have/are losing passengers on that route
(22 Aug 2022, 7:42 am)streetdeckfan Was the X9/X10 ever packed though?
I don't recall ever using it in the past and it being full, whereas now it's pretty much always been standing only whenever I've used it.
That implies to me that numbers are pretty similar they're just carrying them on less buses
(22 Aug 2022, 7:42 am)streetdeckfan Was the X9/X10 ever packed though?
I don't recall ever using it in the past and it being full, whereas now it's pretty much always been standing only whenever I've used it.
That implies to me that numbers are pretty similar they're just carrying them on less buses
(22 Aug 2022, 7:42 am)streetdeckfan Was the X9/X10 ever packed though?Whenever I used it from Middlesbrough / Newcastle there was atleast 30-40 people in a queue, then by the time it would leave most seats would be full.
I don't recall ever using it in the past and it being full, whereas now it's pretty much always been standing only whenever I've used it.
That implies to me that numbers are pretty similar they're just carrying them on less buses
(22 Aug 2022, 7:42 am)streetdeckfan Was the X9/X10 ever packed though?Whenever I used it from Middlesbrough / Newcastle there was atleast 30-40 people in a queue, then by the time it would leave most seats would be full.
I don't recall ever using it in the past and it being full, whereas now it's pretty much always been standing only whenever I've used it.
That implies to me that numbers are pretty similar they're just carrying them on less buses
(22 Aug 2022, 7:42 am)streetdeckfan Was the X9/X10 ever packed though?Pre Covid, the peak time ones were very busy; I've definitely done a couple journeys on the X10 and stood the whole way. Still seems busy now at times but not seen one quite that rammed.
I don't recall ever using it in the past and it being full, whereas now it's pretty much always been standing only whenever I've used it.
That implies to me that numbers are pretty similar they're just carrying them on less buses
(22 Aug 2022, 7:42 am)streetdeckfan Was the X9/X10 ever packed though?Pre Covid, the peak time ones were very busy; I've definitely done a couple journeys on the X10 and stood the whole way. Still seems busy now at times but not seen one quite that rammed.
I don't recall ever using it in the past and it being full, whereas now it's pretty much always been standing only whenever I've used it.
That implies to me that numbers are pretty similar they're just carrying them on less buses
(22 Aug 2022, 2:59 pm)F114TML Pre Covid, the peak time ones were very busy; I've definitely done a couple journeys on the X10 and stood the whole way. Still seems busy now at times but not seen one quite that rammed.
(22 Aug 2022, 2:59 pm)F114TML Pre Covid, the peak time ones were very busy; I've definitely done a couple journeys on the X10 and stood the whole way. Still seems busy now at times but not seen one quite that rammed.
(22 Aug 2022, 7:15 pm)Andreos1 Think I reported standing on it earlier this year.I thought GNE had the following policies pre-covid for standing?
Would have been a Saturday and before they consolidated both routes in to one.
(22 Aug 2022, 7:15 pm)Andreos1 Think I reported standing on it earlier this year.I thought GNE had the following policies pre-covid for standing?
Would have been a Saturday and before they consolidated both routes in to one.
(22 Aug 2022, 11:04 pm)L469 YVK I thought GNE had the following policies pre-covid for standing?
- No standing allowed on X9/X10
- Any X21 journeys with standees non-stop via Birtley rather than A1M
Saying that......not much different to Arriva who allow standing on the X15/X18/X20 with fast sections of road.
(22 Aug 2022, 11:04 pm)L469 YVK I thought GNE had the following policies pre-covid for standing?
- No standing allowed on X9/X10
- Any X21 journeys with standees non-stop via Birtley rather than A1M
Saying that......not much different to Arriva who allow standing on the X15/X18/X20 with fast sections of road.
(22 Aug 2022, 11:55 pm)Jimmi I only encountered the issue with standees on the X21 once and the driver did make a fuss at making everyone sit down because of this apparent rule/guideline but there was still standees after Low Fell so it was all for nothing and he still ended up going down the A1(M) to CLS with standees on-board so the only achievement was me having a long wait in Durham as this delayed the X21 by 10-15 minutes resulting in a missed connection.See, the X21 probably spends about the same time if not less than Arriva's X14/X15/X18/X20 on 50+ MPH dual carriageways / motorways.
(22 Aug 2022, 11:55 pm)Jimmi I only encountered the issue with standees on the X21 once and the driver did make a fuss at making everyone sit down because of this apparent rule/guideline but there was still standees after Low Fell so it was all for nothing and he still ended up going down the A1(M) to CLS with standees on-board so the only achievement was me having a long wait in Durham as this delayed the X21 by 10-15 minutes resulting in a missed connection.See, the X21 probably spends about the same time if not less than Arriva's X14/X15/X18/X20 on 50+ MPH dual carriageways / motorways.
(23 Aug 2022, 8:10 am)L469 YVK See, the X21 probably spends about the same time if not less than Arriva's X14/X15/X18/X20 on 50+ MPH dual carriageways / motorways.
I'd imagine especially on match days Arriva carry standing loads between Clifton and Gosforth Park on the A1, sometimes up to 62MPH. I don't think any Arriva drivers would divert via Stannington, Plessey Checks, Snowy Owl and Wideopen unless it was a bit gusty.
(23 Aug 2022, 8:10 am)L469 YVK See, the X21 probably spends about the same time if not less than Arriva's X14/X15/X18/X20 on 50+ MPH dual carriageways / motorways.
I'd imagine especially on match days Arriva carry standing loads between Clifton and Gosforth Park on the A1, sometimes up to 62MPH. I don't think any Arriva drivers would divert via Stannington, Plessey Checks, Snowy Owl and Wideopen unless it was a bit gusty.
(23 Aug 2022, 8:23 am)streetdeckfan Maybe it's just me, but I'd be far more wary of standing on a bus on a bumpy and twisty A/B road than I would be standing on a dual carriageway or motorway as they're a constant speedDo that at 50.mph on the A19 in winter when a sudden hail storm hits and someone joining at one of the many dangerous junctions that the A19 has loses control in front of you (this has happened to us in our car) and you're through the front windscreen.
(23 Aug 2022, 8:23 am)streetdeckfan Maybe it's just me, but I'd be far more wary of standing on a bus on a bumpy and twisty A/B road than I would be standing on a dual carriageway or motorway as they're a constant speedDo that at 50.mph on the A19 in winter when a sudden hail storm hits and someone joining at one of the many dangerous junctions that the A19 has loses control in front of you (this has happened to us in our car) and you're through the front windscreen.
QuayCity Q3 - Hazlerigg - Fawdon - Great Park - Gosforth - Jesmond - Newcastle - Quayside - Byker - Walker - Wallsend - Hadrian Park - Cobalt - North Shields every 30 minutes. Cobalt & Coast 310 curtailed at Wallsend Town Centre.
(23 Aug 2022, 10:27 pm)OrangeArrow49 QuayCity Q3 - Hazlerigg - Fawdon - Great Park - Gosforth - Jesmond - Newcastle - Quayside - Byker - Walker - Wallsend - Hadrian Park - Cobalt - North Shields every 30 minutes. Cobalt & Coast 310 curtailed at Wallsend Town Centre.Why half the frequency between Great Park & St Peters.
(23 Aug 2022, 10:27 pm)OrangeArrow49 QuayCity Q3 - Hazlerigg - Fawdon - Great Park - Gosforth - Jesmond - Newcastle - Quayside - Byker - Walker - Wallsend - Hadrian Park - Cobalt - North Shields every 30 minutes. Cobalt & Coast 310 curtailed at Wallsend Town Centre.Why half the frequency between Great Park & St Peters.
(23 Aug 2022, 10:27 pm)OrangeArrow49 QuayCity Q3 - Hazlerigg - Fawdon - Great Park - Gosforth - Jesmond - Newcastle - Quayside - Byker - Walker - Wallsend - Hadrian Park - Cobalt - North Shields every 30 minutes. Cobalt & Coast 310 curtailed at Wallsend Town Centre.
(23 Aug 2022, 10:27 pm)OrangeArrow49 QuayCity Q3 - Hazlerigg - Fawdon - Great Park - Gosforth - Jesmond - Newcastle - Quayside - Byker - Walker - Wallsend - Hadrian Park - Cobalt - North Shields every 30 minutes. Cobalt & Coast 310 curtailed at Wallsend Town Centre.
Following up from my rant about the 309/310/311 a few weeks back, here is my suggestion timetable for the evening journeys.
(24 Aug 2022, 7:34 pm)col87 To Answer the question the X9/10 was always busy whenever i used it. Even a few weeks ago when I got on at Peterlee they was hardly any seats left and that was at about 12ish. I can see them needing to do something soon.Maybe numbers didn't recover back in January.
(24 Aug 2022, 7:34 pm)col87 To Answer the question the X9/10 was always busy whenever i used it. Even a few weeks ago when I got on at Peterlee they was hardly any seats left and that was at about 12ish. I can see them needing to do something soon.Maybe numbers didn't recover back in January.