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S813 FVK



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28 Jan 2019, 8:41 pm #1,261
(28 Jan 2019, 8:27 pm)Jamie M Rumours about that piece of land have existed longer than the land itself.

With documents regarding planning permission having been submitted, probably safe to say it's no longer a rumour and the expansion is being considered.

Application was validated last August, with an amendment in December. Status still down as 'Awaiting Decision'.
https://public.gateshead.gov.uk/online-a...ab=summary&keyVal=PCW5SNHKMU300
Edited 28 Jan 2019, 8:41 pm by S813 FVK.
S813 FVK
28 Jan 2019, 8:41 pm #1,261

(28 Jan 2019, 8:27 pm)Jamie M Rumours about that piece of land have existed longer than the land itself.

With documents regarding planning permission having been submitted, probably safe to say it's no longer a rumour and the expansion is being considered.

Application was validated last August, with an amendment in December. Status still down as 'Awaiting Decision'.
https://public.gateshead.gov.uk/online-a...ab=summary&keyVal=PCW5SNHKMU300

Stanleyone

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29 Jan 2019, 6:30 am #1,262
(28 Jan 2019, 7:49 pm)pbjd No, X30 to interwork with X70&X71.

The 1st X70nfrom consett will work onto an X30, however the rest of the X70/X71 continue to work as now. Wouldn't be surprised if the allocation of this route becomes double decker (6124/25 & 31) with the loss of the Toon Link branding, i don't think they'll leave 3 Omnicities at Consett when all the rest go on.
Stanleyone
29 Jan 2019, 6:30 am #1,262

(28 Jan 2019, 7:49 pm)pbjd No, X30 to interwork with X70&X71.

The 1st X70nfrom consett will work onto an X30, however the rest of the X70/X71 continue to work as now. Wouldn't be surprised if the allocation of this route becomes double decker (6124/25 & 31) with the loss of the Toon Link branding, i don't think they'll leave 3 Omnicities at Consett when all the rest go on.

Arcticrossy92



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29 Jan 2019, 12:21 pm #1,263
(29 Jan 2019, 6:30 am)Stanleyone The 1st X70nfrom consett will work onto an X30, however the rest of the X70/X71 continue to work as now. Wouldn't be surprised if the allocation of this route becomes double decker (6124/25 & 31) with the loss of the Toon Link branding, i don't think they'll leave 3 Omnicities at Consett when all the rest go on.

I'm a fan of the Toonlink livery, I do think when it was adopted onto the 32 service a few years a back it created a slight bit of confusion customer based wise, especially people around the Durham area! 

I used the services from time to time, and I really don't think the X70/X71 justifies double deckers, I feel like I very rarely see a single decker on there, which I think would suit the majority of runs better. 

They could operate similar to the Red kite services and have the double deckers on the busier boards
Arcticrossy92
29 Jan 2019, 12:21 pm #1,263

(29 Jan 2019, 6:30 am)Stanleyone The 1st X70nfrom consett will work onto an X30, however the rest of the X70/X71 continue to work as now. Wouldn't be surprised if the allocation of this route becomes double decker (6124/25 & 31) with the loss of the Toon Link branding, i don't think they'll leave 3 Omnicities at Consett when all the rest go on.

I'm a fan of the Toonlink livery, I do think when it was adopted onto the 32 service a few years a back it created a slight bit of confusion customer based wise, especially people around the Durham area! 

I used the services from time to time, and I really don't think the X70/X71 justifies double deckers, I feel like I very rarely see a single decker on there, which I think would suit the majority of runs better. 

They could operate similar to the Red kite services and have the double deckers on the busier boards

Ds1197



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29 Jan 2019, 3:31 pm #1,264
What's happening with the red kites when the new depot opens
Ds1197
29 Jan 2019, 3:31 pm #1,264

What's happening with the red kites when the new depot opens

Jamie M

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29 Jan 2019, 6:50 pm #1,265
(29 Jan 2019, 3:31 pm)Ds1197 What's happening with the red kites when the new depot opens
Nothing
Jamie M
29 Jan 2019, 6:50 pm #1,265

(29 Jan 2019, 3:31 pm)Ds1197 What's happening with the red kites when the new depot opens
Nothing

L469 YVK



3,549
29 Jan 2019, 7:46 pm #1,266
(29 Jan 2019, 6:50 pm)Jamie M Nothing

What about the runs after 2230?
L469 YVK
29 Jan 2019, 7:46 pm #1,266

(29 Jan 2019, 6:50 pm)Jamie M Nothing

What about the runs after 2230?

Jamie M

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29 Jan 2019, 7:50 pm #1,267
(29 Jan 2019, 7:46 pm)L469 YVK What about the runs after 2230?
What about them?
Jamie M
29 Jan 2019, 7:50 pm #1,267

(29 Jan 2019, 7:46 pm)L469 YVK What about the runs after 2230?
What about them?

Michael



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29 Jan 2019, 8:10 pm #1,268
(28 Jan 2019, 7:49 pm)pbjd No, X30 to interwork with X70&X71.

Think i worked out the PVR would be X30/X70/X71 - PVR - 6.5 (round up to 7, with layover) 

I wonder if could easily be worked out where 7 of the contract deckers could be moved out to Saltmeadows (limit 30, currently at 22), meaning the 7 buses needed for the X30/X70/X71 can be moved to Riverside, meaning NO main services would leave Riverside.
Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
29 Jan 2019, 8:10 pm #1,268

(28 Jan 2019, 7:49 pm)pbjd No, X30 to interwork with X70&X71.

Think i worked out the PVR would be X30/X70/X71 - PVR - 6.5 (round up to 7, with layover) 

I wonder if could easily be worked out where 7 of the contract deckers could be moved out to Saltmeadows (limit 30, currently at 22), meaning the 7 buses needed for the X30/X70/X71 can be moved to Riverside, meaning NO main services would leave Riverside.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Jamie M

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29 Jan 2019, 8:16 pm #1,269
(29 Jan 2019, 8:10 pm)Michael Think i worked out the PVR would be X30/X70/X71 - PVR - 6.5 (round up to 7, with layover) 

I wonder if could easily be worked out where 7 of the contract deckers could be moved out to Saltmeadows (limit 30, currently at 22), meaning the 7 buses needed for the X30/X70/X71 can be moved to Riverside, meaning NO main services would leave Riverside.
You would have to move the splits drivers with the buses. That's one can of worms to just get a few routes moved around.

I can't see the X30 staying at stanley. I would have thought the Omnicities would have returned to Riverside and B9s stay up Stanley.
Jamie M
29 Jan 2019, 8:16 pm #1,269

(29 Jan 2019, 8:10 pm)Michael Think i worked out the PVR would be X30/X70/X71 - PVR - 6.5 (round up to 7, with layover) 

I wonder if could easily be worked out where 7 of the contract deckers could be moved out to Saltmeadows (limit 30, currently at 22), meaning the 7 buses needed for the X30/X70/X71 can be moved to Riverside, meaning NO main services would leave Riverside.
You would have to move the splits drivers with the buses. That's one can of worms to just get a few routes moved around.

I can't see the X30 staying at stanley. I would have thought the Omnicities would have returned to Riverside and B9s stay up Stanley.

L469 YVK



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29 Jan 2019, 10:20 pm #1,270
(29 Jan 2019, 7:50 pm)Jamie M What about them?

Can't the new depot only operate until 2230?
L469 YVK
29 Jan 2019, 10:20 pm #1,270

(29 Jan 2019, 7:50 pm)Jamie M What about them?

Can't the new depot only operate until 2230?

S813 FVK



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29 Jan 2019, 10:29 pm #1,271
(29 Jan 2019, 10:20 pm)L469 YVK Can't the new depot only operate until 2230?

Why would a rule like this need to be imposed?
S813 FVK
29 Jan 2019, 10:29 pm #1,271

(29 Jan 2019, 10:20 pm)L469 YVK Can't the new depot only operate until 2230?

Why would a rule like this need to be imposed?

Andreos1



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29 Jan 2019, 11:09 pm #1,272
(29 Jan 2019, 10:29 pm)S813 FVK Why would a rule like this need to be imposed?

Conditions like that are often imposed by Leeds as part of the planning approval process. 
It can be as detailed as no right hand turnings out of the depot too. 

No idea whether conditions like this are in place with the new depot, but it's not unheard of.
'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
29 Jan 2019, 11:09 pm #1,272

(29 Jan 2019, 10:29 pm)S813 FVK Why would a rule like this need to be imposed?

Conditions like that are often imposed by Leeds as part of the planning approval process. 
It can be as detailed as no right hand turnings out of the depot too. 

No idea whether conditions like this are in place with the new depot, but it's not unheard of.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'

Jamie M

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30 Jan 2019, 9:47 am #1,273
(29 Jan 2019, 11:09 pm)Andreos1 Conditions like that are often imposed by Leeds as part of the planning approval process. 
It can be as detailed as no right hand turnings out of the depot too. 

No idea whether conditions like this are in place with the new depot, but it's not unheard of.
It's at the end of an industrial estate, passing very few houses, so I really cannot see this ever being an issue. I think it was more just rumour at the start of the project, rather than actual based ruling.
Jamie M
30 Jan 2019, 9:47 am #1,273

(29 Jan 2019, 11:09 pm)Andreos1 Conditions like that are often imposed by Leeds as part of the planning approval process. 
It can be as detailed as no right hand turnings out of the depot too. 

No idea whether conditions like this are in place with the new depot, but it's not unheard of.
It's at the end of an industrial estate, passing very few houses, so I really cannot see this ever being an issue. I think it was more just rumour at the start of the project, rather than actual based ruling.

Stanleyone

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30 Jan 2019, 1:54 pm #1,274
(29 Jan 2019, 8:16 pm)Jamie M You would have to move the splits drivers with the buses. That's one can of worms to just get a few routes moved around.

I can't see the X30 staying at stanley. I would have thought the Omnicities would have returned to Riverside and B9s stay up Stanley.

The X30s are not staying at Stanley, but then again nothing is staying at Stanley!!. The X30s are moving to consett, 3 buses and not interworking with anything. I've seen the duty content for the new workings. There is no time limits on the depot. Hopefully this puts the X30s and no vehicle movements after 2230 to bed!!!
Stanleyone
30 Jan 2019, 1:54 pm #1,274

(29 Jan 2019, 8:16 pm)Jamie M You would have to move the splits drivers with the buses. That's one can of worms to just get a few routes moved around.

I can't see the X30 staying at stanley. I would have thought the Omnicities would have returned to Riverside and B9s stay up Stanley.

The X30s are not staying at Stanley, but then again nothing is staying at Stanley!!. The X30s are moving to consett, 3 buses and not interworking with anything. I've seen the duty content for the new workings. There is no time limits on the depot. Hopefully this puts the X30s and no vehicle movements after 2230 to bed!!!

L469 YVK



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30 Jan 2019, 9:08 pm #1,275
(30 Jan 2019, 1:54 pm)Stanleyone The X30s are not staying at Stanley, but then again nothing is staying at Stanley!!. The X30s are moving to consett, 3 buses and not interworking with anything. I've seen the duty content for the new workings. There is no time limits on the depot. Hopefully this puts the X30s and no vehicle movements after 2230 to bed!!!

Good stuff! Pleased that the 2230 restriction was only a rumor or part of the initial proposals but later axed. Good to see Consett being able to operate the routes that move over from Stanley.

On another note, what are the key dates to look out for with regards to service changes this year?
L469 YVK
30 Jan 2019, 9:08 pm #1,275

(30 Jan 2019, 1:54 pm)Stanleyone The X30s are not staying at Stanley, but then again nothing is staying at Stanley!!. The X30s are moving to consett, 3 buses and not interworking with anything. I've seen the duty content for the new workings. There is no time limits on the depot. Hopefully this puts the X30s and no vehicle movements after 2230 to bed!!!

Good stuff! Pleased that the 2230 restriction was only a rumor or part of the initial proposals but later axed. Good to see Consett being able to operate the routes that move over from Stanley.

On another note, what are the key dates to look out for with regards to service changes this year?

Michael



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30 Jan 2019, 9:26 pm #1,276
(30 Jan 2019, 9:08 pm)L469 YVK Good stuff! Pleased that the 2230 restriction was only a rumor or part of the initial proposals but later axed. Good to see Consett being able to operate the routes that move over from Stanley.

On another note, what are the key dates to look out for with regards to service changes this year?

New depot was said to be opening next month, however, nothing has appeared on VOSA yet.

Normally June has some changes too.
Edited 30 Jan 2019, 9:29 pm by Michael.
Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
30 Jan 2019, 9:26 pm #1,276

(30 Jan 2019, 9:08 pm)L469 YVK Good stuff! Pleased that the 2230 restriction was only a rumor or part of the initial proposals but later axed. Good to see Consett being able to operate the routes that move over from Stanley.

On another note, what are the key dates to look out for with regards to service changes this year?

New depot was said to be opening next month, however, nothing has appeared on VOSA yet.

Normally June has some changes too.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

TyneWearTeesGNE



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31 Jan 2019, 7:40 am #1,277
Will this be a major service changes or minor?
TyneWearTeesGNE
31 Jan 2019, 7:40 am #1,277

Will this be a major service changes or minor?

pbjd



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31 Jan 2019, 5:29 pm #1,278
(30 Jan 2019, 9:08 pm)L469 YVK Good stuff! Pleased that the 2230 restriction was only a rumor or part of the initial proposals but later axed. Good to see Consett being able to operate the routes that move over from Stanley.

On another note, what are the key dates to look out for with regards to service changes this year?

24th or 31st of March possibly.
pbjd
31 Jan 2019, 5:29 pm #1,278

(30 Jan 2019, 9:08 pm)L469 YVK Good stuff! Pleased that the 2230 restriction was only a rumor or part of the initial proposals but later axed. Good to see Consett being able to operate the routes that move over from Stanley.

On another note, what are the key dates to look out for with regards to service changes this year?

24th or 31st of March possibly.

GNE6312



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04 Feb 2019, 5:20 pm #1,279
(30 Jan 2019, 1:54 pm)Stanleyone The X30s are not staying at Stanley, but then again nothing is staying at Stanley!!. The X30s are moving to consett, 3 buses and not interworking with anything. I've seen the duty content for the new workings. There is no time limits on the depot. Hopefully this puts the X30s and no vehicle movements after 2230 to bed!!!

Will it still interwork with the 16A and run off the M6 (I think) on sunday.
(30 Jan 2019, 1:54 pm)Stanleyone The X30s are not staying at Stanley, but then again nothing is staying at Stanley!!. The X30s are moving to consett, 3 buses and not interworking with anything. I've seen the duty content for the new workings. There is no time limits on the depot. Hopefully this puts the X30s and no vehicle movements after 2230 to bed!!!

Will it still interwork with the 16A and run off the M6 (I think) on sunday.
Edited 04 Feb 2019, 5:20 pm by GNE6312.
GNE6312
04 Feb 2019, 5:20 pm #1,279

(30 Jan 2019, 1:54 pm)Stanleyone The X30s are not staying at Stanley, but then again nothing is staying at Stanley!!. The X30s are moving to consett, 3 buses and not interworking with anything. I've seen the duty content for the new workings. There is no time limits on the depot. Hopefully this puts the X30s and no vehicle movements after 2230 to bed!!!

Will it still interwork with the 16A and run off the M6 (I think) on sunday.
(30 Jan 2019, 1:54 pm)Stanleyone The X30s are not staying at Stanley, but then again nothing is staying at Stanley!!. The X30s are moving to consett, 3 buses and not interworking with anything. I've seen the duty content for the new workings. There is no time limits on the depot. Hopefully this puts the X30s and no vehicle movements after 2230 to bed!!!

Will it still interwork with the 16A and run off the M6 (I think) on sunday.

Stanleyone

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05 Feb 2019, 8:03 pm #1,280
(04 Feb 2019, 5:20 pm)GNE6312 Will it still interwork with the 16A and run off the M6 (I think) on sunday.

Will it still interwork with the 16A and run off the M6 (I think) on sunday.

On Sundays the X30 will interwork with the 16A from / to Durham. The M6 will as a result not interwork with the 16A/X30 as it currently does.
Edited 05 Feb 2019, 8:04 pm by Stanleyone.
Stanleyone
05 Feb 2019, 8:03 pm #1,280

(04 Feb 2019, 5:20 pm)GNE6312 Will it still interwork with the 16A and run off the M6 (I think) on sunday.

Will it still interwork with the 16A and run off the M6 (I think) on sunday.

On Sundays the X30 will interwork with the 16A from / to Durham. The M6 will as a result not interwork with the 16A/X30 as it currently does.

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