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Arriva North East: Latest News & Discussion - October 2016

 
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28 Oct 2016, 9:21 am #141
(28 Oct 2016, 6:33 am)GX03 SVC Designline said he was from Southend when he was actually from Pegswood/Ashington area, and his previous accounts said he had recently moved from Sheffield to Morpeth, despite commenting on the North East Buses News website as far as 2012 about Ashington depot-related stuff...

I just find it a bit suspicious that your first post was about the 35. Of which serves Pegswood and Ashington.
I am not bothered if you think I am using two accounts and I can tell you now I am not. can we just leave it at that because I am not looking to pick arguments and I don't want to annoy or upset anyone

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1764 NK05 GWC
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6301 NK16 BXA
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Buses98
28 Oct 2016, 9:21 am #141

(28 Oct 2016, 6:33 am)GX03 SVC Designline said he was from Southend when he was actually from Pegswood/Ashington area, and his previous accounts said he had recently moved from Sheffield to Morpeth, despite commenting on the North East Buses News website as far as 2012 about Ashington depot-related stuff...

I just find it a bit suspicious that your first post was about the 35. Of which serves Pegswood and Ashington.
I am not bothered if you think I am using two accounts and I can tell you now I am not. can we just leave it at that because I am not looking to pick arguments and I don't want to annoy or upset anyone


Prefer
7486 LJ51 DGZ
1764 NK05 GWC
5230 NK55 OLH
6301 NK16 BXA
22570 SP08 DCV
12078 NK11 DJD
FJ61 EXO

Cock Robin



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28 Oct 2016, 8:09 pm #142
(27 Oct 2016, 10:00 pm)tvd Interesting points.   They do seem to struggle to know exactly what the best thing to do with the 5's is, but they never seem to seriously consider either the express option, or if they need to cut out some time, do all the 5's and 5A's all need to run from Swans Corner all the way into Middlesbrough, stopping everywhere?  How many passengers from East Cleveland actually want to get off along there, and it seem to take an eternity to get into Middlesbrough sometimes.

The X4 has been a success, so for me I'd keep it as much as possible the same as it is now, but with a reduced frequency on an evening.   There's already services between Middlesbrough and Redcar/Marske  on an evening, so if the X4 is only going to go a little further down the road, its not going to be a great benefit to anyone.  I take the point about connections, but people are reluctant to have to rely on these.

Trouble is even if it was running non stop from Swans Corner it would have to run largely the same route as you can't access the Parkway west side from Ormesby Bank.
Cock Robin
28 Oct 2016, 8:09 pm #142

(27 Oct 2016, 10:00 pm)tvd Interesting points.   They do seem to struggle to know exactly what the best thing to do with the 5's is, but they never seem to seriously consider either the express option, or if they need to cut out some time, do all the 5's and 5A's all need to run from Swans Corner all the way into Middlesbrough, stopping everywhere?  How many passengers from East Cleveland actually want to get off along there, and it seem to take an eternity to get into Middlesbrough sometimes.

The X4 has been a success, so for me I'd keep it as much as possible the same as it is now, but with a reduced frequency on an evening.   There's already services between Middlesbrough and Redcar/Marske  on an evening, so if the X4 is only going to go a little further down the road, its not going to be a great benefit to anyone.  I take the point about connections, but people are reluctant to have to rely on these.

Trouble is even if it was running non stop from Swans Corner it would have to run largely the same route as you can't access the Parkway west side from Ormesby Bank.

tyresmoke



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28 Oct 2016, 8:56 pm #143
(27 Oct 2016, 10:00 pm)tvd Interesting points.   They do seem to struggle to know exactly what the best thing to do with the 5's is, but they never seem to seriously consider either the express option, or if they need to cut out some time, do all the 5's and 5A's all need to run from Swans Corner all the way into Middlesbrough, stopping everywhere?  How many passengers from East Cleveland actually want to get off along there, and it seem to take an eternity to get into Middlesbrough sometimes.

The X4 has been a success, so for me I'd keep it as much as possible the same as it is now, but with a reduced frequency on an evening.   There's already services between Middlesbrough and Redcar/Marske  on an evening, so if the X4 is only going to go a little further down the road, its not going to be a great benefit to anyone.  I take the point about connections, but people are reluctant to have to rely on these.

I don't think running limited stop from Swans Corner would save much time, and there is a large number of passengers from there on into the town centre that would have to be catered for with another service.

From another post, there is definitely a few regular Asda staff in Brotton using the 5a to get to/from work that will have to return to walking. There is no safe walking route from Brotton though!
tyresmoke
28 Oct 2016, 8:56 pm #143

(27 Oct 2016, 10:00 pm)tvd Interesting points.   They do seem to struggle to know exactly what the best thing to do with the 5's is, but they never seem to seriously consider either the express option, or if they need to cut out some time, do all the 5's and 5A's all need to run from Swans Corner all the way into Middlesbrough, stopping everywhere?  How many passengers from East Cleveland actually want to get off along there, and it seem to take an eternity to get into Middlesbrough sometimes.

The X4 has been a success, so for me I'd keep it as much as possible the same as it is now, but with a reduced frequency on an evening.   There's already services between Middlesbrough and Redcar/Marske  on an evening, so if the X4 is only going to go a little further down the road, its not going to be a great benefit to anyone.  I take the point about connections, but people are reluctant to have to rely on these.

I don't think running limited stop from Swans Corner would save much time, and there is a large number of passengers from there on into the town centre that would have to be catered for with another service.

From another post, there is definitely a few regular Asda staff in Brotton using the 5a to get to/from work that will have to return to walking. There is no safe walking route from Brotton though!

28 Oct 2016, 11:29 pm #144
Doesn't redcar council 752 serve Skelton asda? I know it was for trial period but perhaps removal of 5A will see it become permanent?
David McGloin
28 Oct 2016, 11:29 pm #144

Doesn't redcar council 752 serve Skelton asda? I know it was for trial period but perhaps removal of 5A will see it become permanent?

29 Oct 2016, 6:50 am #145
(28 Oct 2016, 11:29 pm)David McGloin Doesn't redcar council 752 serve Skelton asda? I know it was for trial period but perhaps removal of 5A will see it become permanent?

The 752 runs 3 or 4 times a day between Loftus and Brotton hospital. It has now been extended from the hospital to Asda but runs down the bypass totally omitting Brotton. A complete waste of time!
Michael Euston
29 Oct 2016, 6:50 am #145

(28 Oct 2016, 11:29 pm)David McGloin Doesn't redcar council 752 serve Skelton asda? I know it was for trial period but perhaps removal of 5A will see it become permanent?

The 752 runs 3 or 4 times a day between Loftus and Brotton hospital. It has now been extended from the hospital to Asda but runs down the bypass totally omitting Brotton. A complete waste of time!

29 Oct 2016, 7:09 pm #146
1479 has just gone passed me on the 7 to Darlington, gets into Darlington at 20:13

The 20:15 is Darlington operated

Does that mean the 20:13 arrival goes back light to Durham
Stuartphin1639
29 Oct 2016, 7:09 pm #146

1479 has just gone passed me on the 7 to Darlington, gets into Darlington at 20:13

The 20:15 is Darlington operated

Does that mean the 20:13 arrival goes back light to Durham

30 Oct 2016, 12:03 pm #147
Arriva's "Bus of the Future" survey. Have your say on the future of features onboard Arriva buses.
https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/global-float...re-survey/
omnicity4659
30 Oct 2016, 12:03 pm #147

Arriva's "Bus of the Future" survey. Have your say on the future of features onboard Arriva buses.
https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/global-float...re-survey/

Michael



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30 Oct 2016, 12:11 pm #148
(30 Oct 2016, 12:03 pm)GX03 SVC Arriva's "Bus of the Future" survey. Have your say on the future of features onboard Arriva buses.
https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/global-float...re-survey/

The suggestions though.... "Mirrors on back of the seats".

Sorry but that's a no from me.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
30 Oct 2016, 12:11 pm #148

(30 Oct 2016, 12:03 pm)GX03 SVC Arriva's "Bus of the Future" survey. Have your say on the future of features onboard Arriva buses.
https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/global-float...re-survey/

The suggestions though.... "Mirrors on back of the seats".

Sorry but that's a no from me.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Jimmi



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30 Oct 2016, 12:30 pm #149
(30 Oct 2016, 12:11 pm)Michael The suggestions though.... "Mirrors on back of the seats".

Sorry but that's a no from me.
I think that there was some good suggestions in there but some I just thought "what on earth are you on about?" vending machines?!

Must say, my biggest disagreement was radio being blasted out for everyone to hear, bad enough when people blast music out of their phones on the bus.
Jimmi
30 Oct 2016, 12:30 pm #149

(30 Oct 2016, 12:11 pm)Michael The suggestions though.... "Mirrors on back of the seats".

Sorry but that's a no from me.
I think that there was some good suggestions in there but some I just thought "what on earth are you on about?" vending machines?!

Must say, my biggest disagreement was radio being blasted out for everyone to hear, bad enough when people blast music out of their phones on the bus.

mb134



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30 Oct 2016, 12:43 pm #150
(30 Oct 2016, 12:11 pm)Michael The suggestions though.... "Mirrors on back of the seats".

Sorry but that's a no from me.

Really would like to see how they'd get a vending machine on there, along with the hot drinks machine, and bottled water dispenser Wink
mb134
30 Oct 2016, 12:43 pm #150

(30 Oct 2016, 12:11 pm)Michael The suggestions though.... "Mirrors on back of the seats".

Sorry but that's a no from me.

Really would like to see how they'd get a vending machine on there, along with the hot drinks machine, and bottled water dispenser Wink

Jimmi



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30 Oct 2016, 12:46 pm #151
(30 Oct 2016, 12:43 pm)mb134 Really would like to see how they'd get a vending machine on there, along with the hot drinks machine, and bottled water dispenser Wink
...and a toilet.

Would hate having a toilet on a bus, bad enough the toilet door wouldn't close from outside on Northern Pacer 142093 yesterday.
Jimmi
30 Oct 2016, 12:46 pm #151

(30 Oct 2016, 12:43 pm)mb134 Really would like to see how they'd get a vending machine on there, along with the hot drinks machine, and bottled water dispenser Wink
...and a toilet.

Would hate having a toilet on a bus, bad enough the toilet door wouldn't close from outside on Northern Pacer 142093 yesterday.

mb134



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30 Oct 2016, 12:51 pm #152
(30 Oct 2016, 12:46 pm)Jimmi ...and a toilet.

Would hate having a toilet on a bus, bad enough the toilet door wouldn't close from outside on Northern Pacer 142093 yesterday.

Ah yes, the toilet! I understand the need on coaches, but for 99% of services Arriva operate, I think it's pretty unnecessary. 

I'd like to see entertainment screens on the back of seats mind, as long as you needed headphones to listen to them. It was interesting to see them asking our views on cloth seating, as opposed to e-leather.
mb134
30 Oct 2016, 12:51 pm #152

(30 Oct 2016, 12:46 pm)Jimmi ...and a toilet.

Would hate having a toilet on a bus, bad enough the toilet door wouldn't close from outside on Northern Pacer 142093 yesterday.

Ah yes, the toilet! I understand the need on coaches, but for 99% of services Arriva operate, I think it's pretty unnecessary. 

I'd like to see entertainment screens on the back of seats mind, as long as you needed headphones to listen to them. It was interesting to see them asking our views on cloth seating, as opposed to e-leather.

JoshP



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30 Oct 2016, 4:46 pm #153
Forgive me if this has been mentioned but what vehicles will the MAX X46 use? Cascaded London deckers which were converted to MAX?
JoshP
30 Oct 2016, 4:46 pm #153

Forgive me if this has been mentioned but what vehicles will the MAX X46 use? Cascaded London deckers which were converted to MAX?

Jimmi



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30 Oct 2016, 4:54 pm #154
(30 Oct 2016, 4:46 pm)JoshP Forgive me if this has been mentioned but what vehicles will the MAX X46 use? Cascaded London deckers which were converted to MAX?
X46 will use ex London Volvo B7TL/Alexander ALX400's which have been refurbished to MAX specification.

Here is a photo of 7423 which will be used on the X46: https://flic.kr/p/MQH7Jn
Jimmi
30 Oct 2016, 4:54 pm #154

(30 Oct 2016, 4:46 pm)JoshP Forgive me if this has been mentioned but what vehicles will the MAX X46 use? Cascaded London deckers which were converted to MAX?
X46 will use ex London Volvo B7TL/Alexander ALX400's which have been refurbished to MAX specification.

Here is a photo of 7423 which will be used on the X46: https://flic.kr/p/MQH7Jn

30 Oct 2016, 8:13 pm #155
(30 Oct 2016, 12:51 pm)mb134 Ah yes, the toilet! I understand the need on coaches, but for 99% of services Arriva operate, I think it's pretty unnecessary. 

I'd like to see entertainment screens on the back of seats mind, as long as you needed headphones to listen to them. It was interesting to see them asking our views on cloth seating, as opposed to e-leather.

Only toilets on the X18!

Personally I prefer cloth seating, particularly in Winter when e-leather can be very cold
NK53 TKT
30 Oct 2016, 8:13 pm #155

(30 Oct 2016, 12:51 pm)mb134 Ah yes, the toilet! I understand the need on coaches, but for 99% of services Arriva operate, I think it's pretty unnecessary. 

I'd like to see entertainment screens on the back of seats mind, as long as you needed headphones to listen to them. It was interesting to see them asking our views on cloth seating, as opposed to e-leather.

Only toilets on the X18!

Personally I prefer cloth seating, particularly in Winter when e-leather can be very cold

Cock Robin



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31 Oct 2016, 8:45 pm #156
(30 Oct 2016, 12:03 pm)GX03 SVC Arriva's "Bus of the Future" survey. Have your say on the future of features onboard Arriva buses.
https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/global-float...re-survey/

I've got in my request for a return to slider and hopper windows so you can have fresh air without being blown all over the place. There was almost a riot on the X12 the other night, one group continually opening the windows and another shutting them! They were students I think - its usually OAPs that shut them!
Cock Robin
31 Oct 2016, 8:45 pm #156

(30 Oct 2016, 12:03 pm)GX03 SVC Arriva's "Bus of the Future" survey. Have your say on the future of features onboard Arriva buses.
https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/global-float...re-survey/

I've got in my request for a return to slider and hopper windows so you can have fresh air without being blown all over the place. There was almost a riot on the X12 the other night, one group continually opening the windows and another shutting them! They were students I think - its usually OAPs that shut them!

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