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Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - December 2016

Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - December 2016

 
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Michael



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02 Dec 2016, 11:09 am #21
(02 Dec 2016, 10:54 am)ifm001 Dare I be the first to suggest X24

Please no haha although, it depends on if the proposed changes go ahead, if not, they may need them, would be better to Sunderland to gain them so they have 1 full allocation and spares of the same bus.


Not sure what the PVR of the X24 will be, i'll say it'll take around 60 minutes, on the proposed half hourly frequency with a PVR of 4 - 2 spares...


But ye i agree, X24.
Edited 02 Dec 2016, 11:14 am by Michael.

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Michael
02 Dec 2016, 11:09 am #21

(02 Dec 2016, 10:54 am)ifm001 Dare I be the first to suggest X24

Please no haha although, it depends on if the proposed changes go ahead, if not, they may need them, would be better to Sunderland to gain them so they have 1 full allocation and spares of the same bus.


Not sure what the PVR of the X24 will be, i'll say it'll take around 60 minutes, on the proposed half hourly frequency with a PVR of 4 - 2 spares...


But ye i agree, X24.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Kuyoyo



6,853
02 Dec 2016, 11:16 am #22
May I just point out now (before I take my nightcap - Christmas run-up working for a Parcel company means no time for anything but work and sleep) but the vehicles in question are Omnilink not City. This means they are basically the Euro4 version of the Solars used by Go North East, just longer and with Scania's own bodywork (same as the one Go North East had on demonstration a number of years back).

[Image: 15000075895_77a52ddbf7_c.jpg]Stagecoach East Scotland 24001 (SP57 CNE) by Tony Kuy, on Flickr

They also have leather-trimmed coach seats - so if they are staying, the X24 is looking a good bet (even if they might be a bit over-sized initially).
Edited 02 Dec 2016, 11:19 am by Kuyoyo.
Kuyoyo
02 Dec 2016, 11:16 am #22

May I just point out now (before I take my nightcap - Christmas run-up working for a Parcel company means no time for anything but work and sleep) but the vehicles in question are Omnilink not City. This means they are basically the Euro4 version of the Solars used by Go North East, just longer and with Scania's own bodywork (same as the one Go North East had on demonstration a number of years back).

[Image: 15000075895_77a52ddbf7_c.jpg]Stagecoach East Scotland 24001 (SP57 CNE) by Tony Kuy, on Flickr

They also have leather-trimmed coach seats - so if they are staying, the X24 is looking a good bet (even if they might be a bit over-sized initially).

Cock Robin



2,778
02 Dec 2016, 11:21 am #23
(02 Dec 2016, 6:55 am)LiamD55 First brand new in Newcastle since then yes

What about the deckers this year?!
Cock Robin
02 Dec 2016, 11:21 am #23

(02 Dec 2016, 6:55 am)LiamD55 First brand new in Newcastle since then yes

What about the deckers this year?!

Cock Robin



2,778
02 Dec 2016, 11:23 am #24
(02 Dec 2016, 11:16 am)Kuyoyo May I just point out now (before I take my nightcap - Christmas run-up working for a Parcel company means no time for anything but work and sleep) but the vehicles in question are Omnilink not City. This means they are basically the Euro4 version of the Solars used by Go North East, just longer and with Scania's own bodywork (same as the one Go North East had on demonstration a number of years back).

[Image: 15000075895_77a52ddbf7_c.jpg]Stagecoach East Scotland 24001 (SP57 CNE) by Tony Kuy, on Flickr

They also have leather-trimmed coach seats - so if they are staying, the X24 is looking a good bet (even if they might be a bit over-sized initially).


Should send them to Stockton for the 36.
Cock Robin
02 Dec 2016, 11:23 am #24

(02 Dec 2016, 11:16 am)Kuyoyo May I just point out now (before I take my nightcap - Christmas run-up working for a Parcel company means no time for anything but work and sleep) but the vehicles in question are Omnilink not City. This means they are basically the Euro4 version of the Solars used by Go North East, just longer and with Scania's own bodywork (same as the one Go North East had on demonstration a number of years back).

[Image: 15000075895_77a52ddbf7_c.jpg]Stagecoach East Scotland 24001 (SP57 CNE) by Tony Kuy, on Flickr

They also have leather-trimmed coach seats - so if they are staying, the X24 is looking a good bet (even if they might be a bit over-sized initially).


Should send them to Stockton for the 36.

Michael



19,165
02 Dec 2016, 11:24 am #25
(02 Dec 2016, 11:16 am)Kuyoyo May I just point out now (before I take my nightcap - Christmas run-up working for a Parcel company means no time for anything but work and sleep) but the vehicles in question are Omnilink not City. This means they are basically the Euro4 version of the Solars used by Go North East, just longer and with Scania's own bodywork (same as the one Go North East had on demonstration a number of years back).

[Image: 15000075895_77a52ddbf7_c.jpg]Stagecoach East Scotland 24001 (SP57 CNE) by Tony Kuy, on Flickr

They also have leather-trimmed coach seats - so if they are staying, the X24 is looking a good bet (even if they might be a bit over-sized initially).

Any idea if they'll need to replace any of the seating etc?

Hopefully they brand the X24, if they stay, give it WIFI too

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
02 Dec 2016, 11:24 am #25

(02 Dec 2016, 11:16 am)Kuyoyo May I just point out now (before I take my nightcap - Christmas run-up working for a Parcel company means no time for anything but work and sleep) but the vehicles in question are Omnilink not City. This means they are basically the Euro4 version of the Solars used by Go North East, just longer and with Scania's own bodywork (same as the one Go North East had on demonstration a number of years back).

[Image: 15000075895_77a52ddbf7_c.jpg]Stagecoach East Scotland 24001 (SP57 CNE) by Tony Kuy, on Flickr

They also have leather-trimmed coach seats - so if they are staying, the X24 is looking a good bet (even if they might be a bit over-sized initially).

Any idea if they'll need to replace any of the seating etc?

Hopefully they brand the X24, if they stay, give it WIFI too


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

02 Dec 2016, 11:25 am #26
(02 Dec 2016, 11:09 am)Michael Please no haha although, it depends on if the proposed changes go ahead, if not, they may need them, would be better to Sunderland to gain them so they have 1 full allocation and spares of the same bus.


Not sure what the PVR of the X24 will be, i'll say it'll take around 60 minutes, on the proposed half hourly frequency with a PVR of 4 - 2 spares...


But ye i agree, X24.

End-to-end time seemed very tight on last hearing, but they haven't released the timetable yet so won't say anything on that one! PVR I'm not sure of either. I was going on two on the back of timing suggestion. Two and one spare may fit for these three - but one spare is a bit drastic given the type of vehicle which could easily be substituted with an Enviro.

I'm very surprised they've took them on, they are very thirsty, which was one of the reasons for their replacement - and for being pretty tired. The new MD obviously wanting more of his native Scottish vehicles, but all variety at the end of the day.

Suggestion from a driver who has put a photo on his Facebook says the X24.
Edited 02 Dec 2016, 11:28 am by RBZ 5459.


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RBZ 5459
02 Dec 2016, 11:25 am #26

(02 Dec 2016, 11:09 am)Michael Please no haha although, it depends on if the proposed changes go ahead, if not, they may need them, would be better to Sunderland to gain them so they have 1 full allocation and spares of the same bus.


Not sure what the PVR of the X24 will be, i'll say it'll take around 60 minutes, on the proposed half hourly frequency with a PVR of 4 - 2 spares...


But ye i agree, X24.

End-to-end time seemed very tight on last hearing, but they haven't released the timetable yet so won't say anything on that one! PVR I'm not sure of either. I was going on two on the back of timing suggestion. Two and one spare may fit for these three - but one spare is a bit drastic given the type of vehicle which could easily be substituted with an Enviro.

I'm very surprised they've took them on, they are very thirsty, which was one of the reasons for their replacement - and for being pretty tired. The new MD obviously wanting more of his native Scottish vehicles, but all variety at the end of the day.

Suggestion from a driver who has put a photo on his Facebook says the X24.



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Andreos1



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02 Dec 2016, 11:35 am #27
(02 Dec 2016, 11:25 am)RBZ 5459 End-to-end time seemed very tight on last hearing, but they haven't released the timetable yet so won't say anything on that one! PVR I'm not sure of either. I was going on two on the back of timing suggestion. Two and one spare may fit for these three - but one spare is a bit drastic given the type of vehicle which could easily be substituted with an Enviro.

I'm very surprised they've took them on, they are very thirsty, which was one of the reasons for their replacement - and for being pretty tired. The new MD obviously wanting more of his native Scottish vehicles, but all variety at the end of the day.

Suggestion from a driver who has put a photo on his Facebook says the X24.

I would have suggested use for the 100, but obviously replacements have been sourced already.
They have quite a big capacity for a brand new service, that has no guarantees of success.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
02 Dec 2016, 11:35 am #27

(02 Dec 2016, 11:25 am)RBZ 5459 End-to-end time seemed very tight on last hearing, but they haven't released the timetable yet so won't say anything on that one! PVR I'm not sure of either. I was going on two on the back of timing suggestion. Two and one spare may fit for these three - but one spare is a bit drastic given the type of vehicle which could easily be substituted with an Enviro.

I'm very surprised they've took them on, they are very thirsty, which was one of the reasons for their replacement - and for being pretty tired. The new MD obviously wanting more of his native Scottish vehicles, but all variety at the end of the day.

Suggestion from a driver who has put a photo on his Facebook says the X24.

I would have suggested use for the 100, but obviously replacements have been sourced already.
They have quite a big capacity for a brand new service, that has no guarantees of success.


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

02 Dec 2016, 11:46 am #28
(02 Dec 2016, 9:51 am)RBZ 5459 24001-9 the batch are.
Forgot to mention, 24004 is the odd one with Bluebird in JET livery - not with East Scotland.

24002 and 24003 have been noted, assume 24001 is the third.

(02 Dec 2016, 11:35 am)Andreos1 I would have suggested use for the 100, but obviously replacements have been sourced already.
They have quite a big capacity for a brand new service, that has no guarantees of success.

I've thought for a few years that they would be good on the 100s. If the X24 doesn't work then I can imagine it'll be difficult to offload the Scania to the Group, as it already has been! X24 has been underdevelopment for a couple of years I gather, so fingers crossed... 

Could always put them on Newcastle Express routes. Be interesting if any others of the batch follow I suppose...
Edited 02 Dec 2016, 11:53 am by RBZ 5459.


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RBZ 5459
02 Dec 2016, 11:46 am #28

(02 Dec 2016, 9:51 am)RBZ 5459 24001-9 the batch are.
Forgot to mention, 24004 is the odd one with Bluebird in JET livery - not with East Scotland.

24002 and 24003 have been noted, assume 24001 is the third.

(02 Dec 2016, 11:35 am)Andreos1 I would have suggested use for the 100, but obviously replacements have been sourced already.
They have quite a big capacity for a brand new service, that has no guarantees of success.

I've thought for a few years that they would be good on the 100s. If the X24 doesn't work then I can imagine it'll be difficult to offload the Scania to the Group, as it already has been! X24 has been underdevelopment for a couple of years I gather, so fingers crossed... 

Could always put them on Newcastle Express routes. Be interesting if any others of the batch follow I suppose...



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Michael



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02 Dec 2016, 11:52 am #29
(02 Dec 2016, 11:25 am)RBZ 5459 End-to-end time seemed very tight on last hearing, but they haven't released the timetable yet so won't say anything on that one! PVR I'm not sure of either. I was going on two on the back of timing suggestion. Two and one spare may fit for these three - but one spare is a bit drastic given the type of vehicle which could easily be substituted with an Enviro.

I'm very surprised they've took them on, they are very thirsty, which was one of the reasons for their replacement - and for being pretty tired. The new MD obviously wanting more of his native Scottish vehicles, but all variety at the end of the day.

Suggestion from a driver who has put a photo on his Facebook says the X24.

The X24 was proposed to be half hourly, so defo more than 2 PVR.

I would say 4 with 2 spares.
Edited 02 Dec 2016, 11:57 am by Michael.

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Michael
02 Dec 2016, 11:52 am #29

(02 Dec 2016, 11:25 am)RBZ 5459 End-to-end time seemed very tight on last hearing, but they haven't released the timetable yet so won't say anything on that one! PVR I'm not sure of either. I was going on two on the back of timing suggestion. Two and one spare may fit for these three - but one spare is a bit drastic given the type of vehicle which could easily be substituted with an Enviro.

I'm very surprised they've took them on, they are very thirsty, which was one of the reasons for their replacement - and for being pretty tired. The new MD obviously wanting more of his native Scottish vehicles, but all variety at the end of the day.

Suggestion from a driver who has put a photo on his Facebook says the X24.

The X24 was proposed to be half hourly, so defo more than 2 PVR.

I would say 4 with 2 spares.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

02 Dec 2016, 11:54 am #30
24003 in Sunderland this morning.
[Image: 30563655153_aa8f00ba29_n.jpg]SP57CNJ in sunderland by neil heskett, on Flickr
Edited 02 Dec 2016, 3:30 pm by RBZ 5459.


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RBZ 5459
02 Dec 2016, 11:54 am #30

24003 in Sunderland this morning.
[Image: 30563655153_aa8f00ba29_n.jpg]SP57CNJ in sunderland by neil heskett, on Flickr



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glen



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02 Dec 2016, 11:58 am #31
Hi if the buses 27506'10 are going to replace 03 mans at Stockton there have 10 03 mans left and what going to replace the last 5 03 man at Stockton than.
glen
02 Dec 2016, 11:58 am #31

Hi if the buses 27506'10 are going to replace 03 mans at Stockton there have 10 03 mans left and what going to replace the last 5 03 man at Stockton than.

Michael



19,165
02 Dec 2016, 12:05 pm #32
(02 Dec 2016, 11:58 am)glen Hi if the buses 27506'10 are going to replace 03 mans at Stockton there have 10 03 mans left and what going to replace the last 5 03 man at Stockton than.

Sunderland had proposed changes which drops the PVR but it's not known if they go ahead yet.

If not, other buses will replace them at a later date
Edited 02 Dec 2016, 4:14 pm by Michael.

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Michael
02 Dec 2016, 12:05 pm #32

(02 Dec 2016, 11:58 am)glen Hi if the buses 27506'10 are going to replace 03 mans at Stockton there have 10 03 mans left and what going to replace the last 5 03 man at Stockton than.

Sunderland had proposed changes which drops the PVR but it's not known if they go ahead yet.

If not, other buses will replace them at a later date


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

glen



705
02 Dec 2016, 12:08 pm #33
Thank you info
glen
02 Dec 2016, 12:08 pm #33

Thank you info

Ryan99



224
02 Dec 2016, 12:09 pm #34
I can confirm they are for X24 and wheatsheaf is operating with them scanias
Ryan99
02 Dec 2016, 12:09 pm #34

I can confirm they are for X24 and wheatsheaf is operating with them scanias

02 Dec 2016, 12:24 pm #35
(02 Dec 2016, 11:58 am)glen Hi if the buses 27506'10 are going to replace 03 mans at Stockton there have 10 03 mans left and what going to replace the last 5 03 man at Stockton than.

Think as a whole Stockton have eight 03-plate MANs, so that will mean three clinging on(?). Suppose there could be more surprises like the Scania. Always next year orders perhaps to rely on for cascades.

Confirmation on the Kinetics though, as they seem to have been in limbo for some time, 22508-15 will remain part of the Slatyford fleet. 
Will mean that all 03 and 53 plates will be withdrawn from Busways.
Edited 02 Dec 2016, 12:30 pm by RBZ 5459.


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RBZ 5459
02 Dec 2016, 12:24 pm #35

(02 Dec 2016, 11:58 am)glen Hi if the buses 27506'10 are going to replace 03 mans at Stockton there have 10 03 mans left and what going to replace the last 5 03 man at Stockton than.

Think as a whole Stockton have eight 03-plate MANs, so that will mean three clinging on(?). Suppose there could be more surprises like the Scania. Always next year orders perhaps to rely on for cascades.

Confirmation on the Kinetics though, as they seem to have been in limbo for some time, 22508-15 will remain part of the Slatyford fleet. 
Will mean that all 03 and 53 plates will be withdrawn from Busways.



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02 Dec 2016, 2:33 pm #36
(02 Dec 2016, 11:16 am)Kuyoyo They also have leather-trimmed coach seats - so if they are staying, the X24 is looking a good bet (even if they might be a bit over-sized initially).

They are staying and it is X24.
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02 Dec 2016, 2:33 pm #36

(02 Dec 2016, 11:16 am)Kuyoyo They also have leather-trimmed coach seats - so if they are staying, the X24 is looking a good bet (even if they might be a bit over-sized initially).

They are staying and it is X24.

Michael



19,165
02 Dec 2016, 2:48 pm #37
Just walked past the Wheatsheaf and they're currently locked away in the garages and could only see one from all angles.
Edited 02 Dec 2016, 3:34 pm by Michael.

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Michael
02 Dec 2016, 2:48 pm #37

Just walked past the Wheatsheaf and they're currently locked away in the garages and could only see one from all angles.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

02 Dec 2016, 4:08 pm #38
Can I just ask what service X24 is? I've never heard of it before it is a new route?
Jackamcardle
02 Dec 2016, 4:08 pm #38

Can I just ask what service X24 is? I've never heard of it before it is a new route?

Michael



19,165
02 Dec 2016, 4:11 pm #39
(02 Dec 2016, 4:08 pm)Jackamcardle Can I just ask what service X24 is? I've never heard of it before it is a new route?

It's the proposed route between Sunderland and Newcastle - Via Chester Road and the A19 - it was part of the Sunderland proposals for changes to its services.

Edit: Can we confirm it's going ahead now? Tongue
Edited 02 Dec 2016, 4:35 pm by Michael.

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Michael
02 Dec 2016, 4:11 pm #39

(02 Dec 2016, 4:08 pm)Jackamcardle Can I just ask what service X24 is? I've never heard of it before it is a new route?

It's the proposed route between Sunderland and Newcastle - Via Chester Road and the A19 - it was part of the Sunderland proposals for changes to its services.

Edit: Can we confirm it's going ahead now? Tongue


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

02 Dec 2016, 4:39 pm #40
(02 Dec 2016, 4:11 pm)Michael It's the proposed route between Sunderland and Newcastle - Via Chester Road and the A19 - it was part of the Sunderland proposals for changes to its services.

Edit: Can we confirm it's going ahead now? Tongue

Ooooh I'm excited now - those Omnilinks look very comfortable too!
Jackamcardle
02 Dec 2016, 4:39 pm #40

(02 Dec 2016, 4:11 pm)Michael It's the proposed route between Sunderland and Newcastle - Via Chester Road and the A19 - it was part of the Sunderland proposals for changes to its services.

Edit: Can we confirm it's going ahead now? Tongue

Ooooh I'm excited now - those Omnilinks look very comfortable too!

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