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S813 FVK



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25 Apr 2017, 6:33 pm #341
(25 Apr 2017, 6:10 pm)Michael I would think 8328 will transfer over as the spare for the 34/36? (as it's already in "Go North East"), they'll have a total of 11 Versa's.

Maybe it will transfer back to Riverside instead with it having Free WiFi and a Next Stop Announcement system fitted with another Versa being the 34/36 spare (providing they are planning on having a spare)?
Edited 25 Apr 2017, 6:33 pm by S813 FVK.
S813 FVK
25 Apr 2017, 6:33 pm #341

(25 Apr 2017, 6:10 pm)Michael I would think 8328 will transfer over as the spare for the 34/36? (as it's already in "Go North East"), they'll have a total of 11 Versa's.

Maybe it will transfer back to Riverside instead with it having Free WiFi and a Next Stop Announcement system fitted with another Versa being the 34/36 spare (providing they are planning on having a spare)?

Dan

Site Administrator

18,125
25 Apr 2017, 6:34 pm #342
(25 Apr 2017, 6:33 pm)thetravelman Does this also include 8266 - SB120 Wright Merit  (S1 Metrocentre) or is this Vehicle to stay longer in the fleet?

No - that one is still going (for now!)

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Dan
25 Apr 2017, 6:34 pm #342

(25 Apr 2017, 6:33 pm)thetravelman Does this also include 8266 - SB120 Wright Merit  (S1 Metrocentre) or is this Vehicle to stay longer in the fleet?

No - that one is still going (for now!)

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25 Apr 2017, 6:36 pm #343
(25 Apr 2017, 6:34 pm)Dan No - that one is still going (for now!)

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Oh Right, Thanks Dan.
thetravelman
25 Apr 2017, 6:36 pm #343

(25 Apr 2017, 6:34 pm)Dan No - that one is still going (for now!)

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Oh Right, Thanks Dan.

Michael



19,175
25 Apr 2017, 6:39 pm #344
(25 Apr 2017, 6:33 pm)S813 FVK Maybe it will transfer back to Riverside instead with it having Free WiFi and a Next Stop Announcement system fitted with another Versa being the 34/36 spare (providing they are planning on having a spare)?

Oh i forgot it had WIFI, a different Versa then, is there actually any spares though?
Edited 25 Apr 2017, 6:41 pm by Michael.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
25 Apr 2017, 6:39 pm #344

(25 Apr 2017, 6:33 pm)S813 FVK Maybe it will transfer back to Riverside instead with it having Free WiFi and a Next Stop Announcement system fitted with another Versa being the 34/36 spare (providing they are planning on having a spare)?

Oh i forgot it had WIFI, a different Versa then, is there actually any spares though?


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

G-CPTN



961
25 Apr 2017, 7:55 pm #345
Still no NSAs on TENs.
G-CPTN
25 Apr 2017, 7:55 pm #345

Still no NSAs on TENs.

Andreos1



14,240
25 Apr 2017, 8:28 pm #346
(25 Apr 2017, 3:48 pm)South Tyne Lad The majority/all of the Crusaders are a state, And have been left to long without any sort of tarting up. If 5328-30 are leaving it would be best to refurb them inside internally too, As there just as grubby as the 08 plates.

5333-36 are the best condition of the remaining non-refurbs ( bar the 63 plates ) still remaining in service, And are acceptable internally. Id say these will be last of the queue if they are to get refurbed In the future.

This can clear up the speculation of the Angel B5LH's ever cascading down to the 27 once displaced, Another candidate ive heard is the Coaster 1, Which could displace the Omnicity's to corporate roles?....

Will personally miss 5328-30 off the Crusader if they leave, Always hope for one of them three when I'm heading home on there.

Apart from the peeling paint, the one I mentioned also has a big fist sized dint in its skin. Top right hand corner if looking at the rear.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
25 Apr 2017, 8:28 pm #346

(25 Apr 2017, 3:48 pm)South Tyne Lad The majority/all of the Crusaders are a state, And have been left to long without any sort of tarting up. If 5328-30 are leaving it would be best to refurb them inside internally too, As there just as grubby as the 08 plates.

5333-36 are the best condition of the remaining non-refurbs ( bar the 63 plates ) still remaining in service, And are acceptable internally. Id say these will be last of the queue if they are to get refurbed In the future.

This can clear up the speculation of the Angel B5LH's ever cascading down to the 27 once displaced, Another candidate ive heard is the Coaster 1, Which could displace the Omnicity's to corporate roles?....

Will personally miss 5328-30 off the Crusader if they leave, Always hope for one of them three when I'm heading home on there.

Apart from the peeling paint, the one I mentioned also has a big fist sized dint in its skin. Top right hand corner if looking at the rear.


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

Michael



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25 Apr 2017, 8:29 pm #347
(25 Apr 2017, 7:55 pm)G-CPTN Still no NSAs on TENs.

It's obvious that they have other things ahead of that, if you're concered get in touch with "Go North East",
Edited 25 Apr 2017, 8:31 pm by Michael.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
25 Apr 2017, 8:29 pm #347

(25 Apr 2017, 7:55 pm)G-CPTN Still no NSAs on TENs.

It's obvious that they have other things ahead of that, if you're concered get in touch with "Go North East",


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Andreos1



14,240
25 Apr 2017, 8:32 pm #348
I noticed discussion about the B7 Presidents. Has 6019 been missing in action today?

Driven towards Chester down the A183 after 7 tonight, with a fitter at the wheel.

Of course there are a number of reasons why it could have been there at that time of night, but if reliability is a concern with it's relatives, it makes you wonder...

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
25 Apr 2017, 8:32 pm #348

I noticed discussion about the B7 Presidents. Has 6019 been missing in action today?

Driven towards Chester down the A183 after 7 tonight, with a fitter at the wheel.

Of course there are a number of reasons why it could have been there at that time of night, but if reliability is a concern with it's relatives, it makes you wonder...


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

ne14ne1



1,519
25 Apr 2017, 8:57 pm #349
I was on a Citylink58 Versa yesterday with no branding down the passenger side.
Are the Citylink58s getting a new brand inline with Citylink57s once the mercs have been refurbished?
ne14ne1
25 Apr 2017, 8:57 pm #349

I was on a Citylink58 Versa yesterday with no branding down the passenger side.
Are the Citylink58s getting a new brand inline with Citylink57s once the mercs have been refurbished?

citaro5284



3,234
25 Apr 2017, 9:06 pm #350
(25 Apr 2017, 8:57 pm)ne14ne1 I was on a Citylink58 Versa yesterday with no branding down the passenger side.
Are the Citylink58s getting a new brand inline with Citylink57s once the mercs have been refurbished?

It has been like that for a while now, think it had accident damage.
citaro5284
25 Apr 2017, 9:06 pm #350

(25 Apr 2017, 8:57 pm)ne14ne1 I was on a Citylink58 Versa yesterday with no branding down the passenger side.
Are the Citylink58s getting a new brand inline with Citylink57s once the mercs have been refurbished?

It has been like that for a while now, think it had accident damage.

ne14ne1



1,519
25 Apr 2017, 9:22 pm #351
(25 Apr 2017, 9:06 pm)citaro5284 It has been like that for a while now, think it had accident damage.

Ah I see. Fair enough.
Cheers.
ne14ne1
25 Apr 2017, 9:22 pm #351

(25 Apr 2017, 9:06 pm)citaro5284 It has been like that for a while now, think it had accident damage.

Ah I see. Fair enough.
Cheers.

Jamie M

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25 Apr 2017, 11:08 pm #352
(25 Apr 2017, 11:58 am)Dan That being the last time it was in service! 6014 withdrawn from service after these journeys. Now at the back of Saltmeadows Road awaiting its fate...

Other points of note are the withdrawal of the remaining DAF SB120s from the fleet (all now replaced by 4961-65), and 6130 is now at Saltmeadows Road to be repainted black.

[Image: 34122891116_b604312257_o.jpg](Go North East) V314LGC / 6014 - Volvo B7TL by Jamie MP, on Flickr

I've shared this elsewhere, but is has marked the near end of an ear - which is front flipdots. 6012 and 4922 are the only buses that come to mind that still have them installed. I'd imagine 6012 will also find itself where 6013 should also be and 6014 currently is. 
4922 has muddled seats, combining from near-original "graffiti" style seating, with a few odd blue ones thrown in there.. 
6012 likes to steer right when the brake is applied and is rather grubby and dark inside.
I wonder what'll hit these two first - tax or just demand for scrap.
Jamie M
25 Apr 2017, 11:08 pm #352

(25 Apr 2017, 11:58 am)Dan That being the last time it was in service! 6014 withdrawn from service after these journeys. Now at the back of Saltmeadows Road awaiting its fate...

Other points of note are the withdrawal of the remaining DAF SB120s from the fleet (all now replaced by 4961-65), and 6130 is now at Saltmeadows Road to be repainted black.

[Image: 34122891116_b604312257_o.jpg](Go North East) V314LGC / 6014 - Volvo B7TL by Jamie MP, on Flickr

I've shared this elsewhere, but is has marked the near end of an ear - which is front flipdots. 6012 and 4922 are the only buses that come to mind that still have them installed. I'd imagine 6012 will also find itself where 6013 should also be and 6014 currently is. 
4922 has muddled seats, combining from near-original "graffiti" style seating, with a few odd blue ones thrown in there.. 
6012 likes to steer right when the brake is applied and is rather grubby and dark inside.
I wonder what'll hit these two first - tax or just demand for scrap.

Ambassador



1,862
26 Apr 2017, 6:03 am #353
Nevermind refurbs, cleaning what they've got would do me.

6056 reeks of beer and has got empty bottle tops, mud and sweet wrappers all over it and it's only 7am!

Recurring thing with Chester (yeah I reported it!)

Wistfully stuck in the 90s
Ambassador
26 Apr 2017, 6:03 am #353

Nevermind refurbs, cleaning what they've got would do me.

6056 reeks of beer and has got empty bottle tops, mud and sweet wrappers all over it and it's only 7am!

Recurring thing with Chester (yeah I reported it!)


Wistfully stuck in the 90s

LeeCalder



1,928
26 Apr 2017, 8:22 am #354
(26 Apr 2017, 6:03 am)Ambassador Nevermind refurbs, cleaning what they've got would do me.

6056 reeks of beer and has got empty bottle tops, mud and sweet wrappers all over it and it's only 7am!

Recurring thing with Chester (yeah I reported it!)

6134 was the same this morning, filthy on the outside as well. 8am this morning.
LeeCalder
26 Apr 2017, 8:22 am #354

(26 Apr 2017, 6:03 am)Ambassador Nevermind refurbs, cleaning what they've got would do me.

6056 reeks of beer and has got empty bottle tops, mud and sweet wrappers all over it and it's only 7am!

Recurring thing with Chester (yeah I reported it!)

6134 was the same this morning, filthy on the outside as well. 8am this morning.

26 Apr 2017, 8:45 am #355
(26 Apr 2017, 8:22 am)LeeCalder 6134 was the same this morning, filthy on the outside as well. 8am this morning.

They've ordered all depots to only wash 4 days out of 7, to save over a grand a week apparently....


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RBZ 5459
26 Apr 2017, 8:45 am #355

(26 Apr 2017, 8:22 am)LeeCalder 6134 was the same this morning, filthy on the outside as well. 8am this morning.

They've ordered all depots to only wash 4 days out of 7, to save over a grand a week apparently....



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Dan

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26 Apr 2017, 9:00 am #356
(26 Apr 2017, 8:45 am)RBZ 5459 They've ordered all depots to only wash 4 days out of 7, to save over a grand a week apparently....

Interior cleans are contracted out to ISS, though, so these should still be getting done every night, with the Angels and Crook buses having a full valet every few weeks on a cycle. The latter point is why so many buses from Chester-le-Street have been working from Crook over the past few months. 6134/35 were both on loan to Crook recently and it's because the ISS cycle had 695 and 696 down for a full valet at the same time. If Ambassador has reported this to Go North East, I'm sure they'll be able to look into why that bus wasn't cleaned last night.

An exterior wash every other day isn't too bad during the summer months, but when it's still poor weather conditions, it's down to the discretion of the Depot Engineer to wash externally more regularly, in order to maintain the desired quality standards.

Depending on that depot's engineering budget for the month, I imagine the external cleanliness of buses is a cost vs benefit scenario, which is possibly why you notice different levels of external cleanliness depending on the depot. You see differing standards of quality at almost every bus depot, regardless of the operator... Using Arriva as an example - two similarly sized depots are Jesmond and Stockton. Jesmond stands out to me as being one of the poorer ones, with Stockton being one of the better ones. At the same time; I bet Jesmond's fleet has a higher average age than Stockton, and whilst the budgets should reflect this, Jesmond will probably have a higher engineering spend maintaining older vehicles, and this is possibly why quality lacks in some areas.

Think the big operators are all being squeezed at the moment - we're seeing many PVR reductions at Stagecoach at the moment, and upcoming fleet revisions at Arriva will see the engineering spares reduce at almost every depot.
Dan
26 Apr 2017, 9:00 am #356

(26 Apr 2017, 8:45 am)RBZ 5459 They've ordered all depots to only wash 4 days out of 7, to save over a grand a week apparently....

Interior cleans are contracted out to ISS, though, so these should still be getting done every night, with the Angels and Crook buses having a full valet every few weeks on a cycle. The latter point is why so many buses from Chester-le-Street have been working from Crook over the past few months. 6134/35 were both on loan to Crook recently and it's because the ISS cycle had 695 and 696 down for a full valet at the same time. If Ambassador has reported this to Go North East, I'm sure they'll be able to look into why that bus wasn't cleaned last night.

An exterior wash every other day isn't too bad during the summer months, but when it's still poor weather conditions, it's down to the discretion of the Depot Engineer to wash externally more regularly, in order to maintain the desired quality standards.

Depending on that depot's engineering budget for the month, I imagine the external cleanliness of buses is a cost vs benefit scenario, which is possibly why you notice different levels of external cleanliness depending on the depot. You see differing standards of quality at almost every bus depot, regardless of the operator... Using Arriva as an example - two similarly sized depots are Jesmond and Stockton. Jesmond stands out to me as being one of the poorer ones, with Stockton being one of the better ones. At the same time; I bet Jesmond's fleet has a higher average age than Stockton, and whilst the budgets should reflect this, Jesmond will probably have a higher engineering spend maintaining older vehicles, and this is possibly why quality lacks in some areas.

Think the big operators are all being squeezed at the moment - we're seeing many PVR reductions at Stagecoach at the moment, and upcoming fleet revisions at Arriva will see the engineering spares reduce at almost every depot.

BFK



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26 Apr 2017, 9:43 am #357
(25 Apr 2017, 8:32 pm)Andreos1 I noticed discussion about the B7 Presidents. Has 6019 been missing in action today?

Driven towards Chester down the A183 after 7 tonight, with a fitter at the wheel.

Of course there are a number of reasons why it could have been there at that time of night, but if reliability is a concern with it's relatives, it makes you wonder...

6019 was on loan to Deptford yesterday afternoon due to vehicle shortages.
BFK
26 Apr 2017, 9:43 am #357

(25 Apr 2017, 8:32 pm)Andreos1 I noticed discussion about the B7 Presidents. Has 6019 been missing in action today?

Driven towards Chester down the A183 after 7 tonight, with a fitter at the wheel.

Of course there are a number of reasons why it could have been there at that time of night, but if reliability is a concern with it's relatives, it makes you wonder...

6019 was on loan to Deptford yesterday afternoon due to vehicle shortages.

BusLoverMum



5,285
26 Apr 2017, 2:50 pm #358
(25 Apr 2017, 11:08 pm)Jamie M [Image: 34122891116_b604312257_o.jpg](Go North East) V314LGC / 6014 - Volvo B7TL by Jamie MP, on Flickr

I've shared this elsewhere, but is has marked the near end of an ear - which is front flipdots. 6012 and 4922 are the only buses that come to mind that still have them installed. I'd imagine 6012 will also find itself where 6013 should also be and 6014 currently is. 
4922 has muddled seats, combining from near-original "graffiti" style seating, with a few odd blue ones thrown in there.. 
6012 likes to steer right when the brake is applied and is rather grubby and dark inside.
I wonder what'll hit these two first - tax or just demand for scrap.

BIB: Nostalgia for elephants Wink
BusLoverMum
26 Apr 2017, 2:50 pm #358

(25 Apr 2017, 11:08 pm)Jamie M [Image: 34122891116_b604312257_o.jpg](Go North East) V314LGC / 6014 - Volvo B7TL by Jamie MP, on Flickr

I've shared this elsewhere, but is has marked the near end of an ear - which is front flipdots. 6012 and 4922 are the only buses that come to mind that still have them installed. I'd imagine 6012 will also find itself where 6013 should also be and 6014 currently is. 
4922 has muddled seats, combining from near-original "graffiti" style seating, with a few odd blue ones thrown in there.. 
6012 likes to steer right when the brake is applied and is rather grubby and dark inside.
I wonder what'll hit these two first - tax or just demand for scrap.

BIB: Nostalgia for elephants Wink

L469 YVK



3,554
26 Apr 2017, 3:45 pm #359
(26 Apr 2017, 6:03 am)Ambassador Nevermind refurbs, cleaning what they've got would do me.

6056 reeks of beer and has got empty bottle tops, mud and sweet wrappers all over it and it's only 7am!

Recurring thing with Chester (yeah I reported it!)

Funnily enough, I seen an empty beer can knocking around upstairs on 6114 after the Brighton match back in August and the bus was fairly quiet. Can't understsnd how it got there unless some punter cracked it open earlier in the day whilst stuck in Seaton Sluice or it was not previously cleaned.
L469 YVK
26 Apr 2017, 3:45 pm #359

(26 Apr 2017, 6:03 am)Ambassador Nevermind refurbs, cleaning what they've got would do me.

6056 reeks of beer and has got empty bottle tops, mud and sweet wrappers all over it and it's only 7am!

Recurring thing with Chester (yeah I reported it!)

Funnily enough, I seen an empty beer can knocking around upstairs on 6114 after the Brighton match back in August and the bus was fairly quiet. Can't understsnd how it got there unless some punter cracked it open earlier in the day whilst stuck in Seaton Sluice or it was not previously cleaned.

Jamie M

Unregistered

 
26 Apr 2017, 4:06 pm #360
(26 Apr 2017, 2:50 pm)BusLoverMum BIB: Nostalgia for elephants Wink
I wanted to sound profound and you go and spoil it, what have I ever done to you to deserve this!



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Jamie M
26 Apr 2017, 4:06 pm #360

(26 Apr 2017, 2:50 pm)BusLoverMum BIB: Nostalgia for elephants Wink
I wanted to sound profound and you go and spoil it, what have I ever done to you to deserve this!



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