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Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - May 2017

 
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12 May 2017, 2:30 pm #41
(12 May 2017, 12:36 pm)Kuyoyo 22581 is out today, which means that it was 22579 involved in the RTC

Yeah that's the one. It's in a bad way and probably won't see service again after it's released from being compounded. 
RBZ 5459
12 May 2017, 2:30 pm #41

(12 May 2017, 12:36 pm)Kuyoyo 22581 is out today, which means that it was 22579 involved in the RTC

Yeah that's the one. It's in a bad way and probably won't see service again after it's released from being compounded. 

Cock Robin



2,778
12 May 2017, 2:36 pm #42
27510 was seen on the back of a blue tow truck yesterday heading south near Wetherby!
Cock Robin
12 May 2017, 2:36 pm #42

27510 was seen on the back of a blue tow truck yesterday heading south near Wetherby!

LiamD55



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12 May 2017, 3:21 pm #43
Fair to say the E300s brought in for the 100 have been fated . What is the PVR for the 100 now is it 4 ? Suprised Slatyford havent allocated 4 MMC200 to the 100 for the time being
LiamD55
12 May 2017, 3:21 pm #43

Fair to say the E300s brought in for the 100 have been fated . What is the PVR for the 100 now is it 4 ? Suprised Slatyford havent allocated 4 MMC200 to the 100 for the time being

12 May 2017, 4:14 pm #44
(12 May 2017, 3:21 pm)LiamD55 Fair to say the E300s  brought in for the 100 have been fated . What is the PVR for the 100 now is it 4 ? Suprised Slatyford havent allocated 4 MMC200 to the 100 for the time being

But then what would you allocate to the 30/31/36 in their place? Surely the 100 can justify new buses by now- during the day they are always busy. Would be nice to see an addition to this years orders as I cant see the remaining E300s lasting for a few more years.
Dans_bus_photos
12 May 2017, 4:14 pm #44

(12 May 2017, 3:21 pm)LiamD55 Fair to say the E300s  brought in for the 100 have been fated . What is the PVR for the 100 now is it 4 ? Suprised Slatyford havent allocated 4 MMC200 to the 100 for the time being

But then what would you allocate to the 30/31/36 in their place? Surely the 100 can justify new buses by now- during the day they are always busy. Would be nice to see an addition to this years orders as I cant see the remaining E300s lasting for a few more years.

LiamD55



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12 May 2017, 5:05 pm #45
(12 May 2017, 4:14 pm)Dans_bus_photos But then what would you allocate to the 30/31/36 in their place? Surely the 100 can justify new buses by now- during the day they are always busy. Would be nice to see an addition to this years orders as I cant see the remaining E300s lasting for a few more years.

Stick 4 ALX300s back on for the time being. Slatyfords allocated busses are turning up on everything they arent meant to anyway lately but i thought the 100 would of been given new busses in with the E200MMC order
LiamD55
12 May 2017, 5:05 pm #45

(12 May 2017, 4:14 pm)Dans_bus_photos But then what would you allocate to the 30/31/36 in their place? Surely the 100 can justify new buses by now- during the day they are always busy. Would be nice to see an addition to this years orders as I cant see the remaining E300s lasting for a few more years.

Stick 4 ALX300s back on for the time being. Slatyfords allocated busses are turning up on everything they arent meant to anyway lately but i thought the 100 would of been given new busses in with the E200MMC order

Mark1



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12 May 2017, 5:54 pm #46
Is there a particular reason why the X55 stops at Testos Roundabout when the more local services X24 and X34 don't.
Mark1
12 May 2017, 5:54 pm #46

Is there a particular reason why the X55 stops at Testos Roundabout when the more local services X24 and X34 don't.

12 May 2017, 6:23 pm #47
(12 May 2017, 3:21 pm)LiamD55 Fair to say the E300s  brought in for the 100 have been fated . What is the PVR for the 100 now is it 4 ? Suprised Slatyford havent allocated 4 MMC200 to the 100 for the time being

Three E300, one ALX300.


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RBZ 5459
12 May 2017, 6:23 pm #47

(12 May 2017, 3:21 pm)LiamD55 Fair to say the E300s  brought in for the 100 have been fated . What is the PVR for the 100 now is it 4 ? Suprised Slatyford havent allocated 4 MMC200 to the 100 for the time being

Three E300, one ALX300.



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AIG20



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12 May 2017, 6:56 pm #48
Former South Shields Pointer Dart 34611 has entered service at Hartlepool Depot.

Information from "Busesnortheast" Facebook Page.
AIG20
12 May 2017, 6:56 pm #48

Former South Shields Pointer Dart 34611 has entered service at Hartlepool Depot.

Information from "Busesnortheast" Facebook Page.

12 May 2017, 7:21 pm #49
(12 May 2017, 5:54 pm)Mark1 Is there a particular reason why the X55 stops at Testos Roundabout when the more local services X24 and X34 don't.

Both the X24/34 do stop at Testo's, But no one alights/boards there due it being near nothing, Apart from the Enterprise Car Rental Centre.



(12 May 2017, 2:30 pm)RBZ 5459 Yeah that's the one. It's in a bad way and probably won't see service again after it's released from being compounded. 

I'm starting to think Slatyford are getting sick of there MAN Kinetics/E300's. While the Kinetics are doing a little better ( Not by much though ) Id say it was probably best to just acquire new vehicles for the 100 last year, As now money has now been wasted on Interior Refurb etc, While underneath mechanically there done for.
So has 22579 pretty much been written off?

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South Tyne Lad
12 May 2017, 7:21 pm #49

(12 May 2017, 5:54 pm)Mark1 Is there a particular reason why the X55 stops at Testos Roundabout when the more local services X24 and X34 don't.

Both the X24/34 do stop at Testo's, But no one alights/boards there due it being near nothing, Apart from the Enterprise Car Rental Centre.



(12 May 2017, 2:30 pm)RBZ 5459 Yeah that's the one. It's in a bad way and probably won't see service again after it's released from being compounded. 

I'm starting to think Slatyford are getting sick of there MAN Kinetics/E300's. While the Kinetics are doing a little better ( Not by much though ) Id say it was probably best to just acquire new vehicles for the 100 last year, As now money has now been wasted on Interior Refurb etc, While underneath mechanically there done for.
So has 22579 pretty much been written off?


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Mark1



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12 May 2017, 7:40 pm #50
(12 May 2017, 7:21 pm)South Tyne Lad Both the X24/34 do stop at Testo's, But no one alights/boards there due it being near nothing, Apart from the Enterprise Car Rental Centre.

I thought they were non stop between Gateshead and Chester Road (X24) and Boldon Abingdon Way (X34) they dont stop there according to Nexus.

http://liners.nexus.org.uk/16075.pdf


Either way it seems unnecessary for such a long distance limited stop service to use such an isolated stop unless there was some sort of specific reason why.
Mark1
12 May 2017, 7:40 pm #50

(12 May 2017, 7:21 pm)South Tyne Lad Both the X24/34 do stop at Testo's, But no one alights/boards there due it being near nothing, Apart from the Enterprise Car Rental Centre.

I thought they were non stop between Gateshead and Chester Road (X24) and Boldon Abingdon Way (X34) they dont stop there according to Nexus.

http://liners.nexus.org.uk/16075.pdf


Either way it seems unnecessary for such a long distance limited stop service to use such an isolated stop unless there was some sort of specific reason why.

12 May 2017, 7:52 pm #51
(12 May 2017, 7:21 pm)South Tyne Lad Both the X24/34 do stop at Testo's, But no one alights/boards there due it being near nothing, Apart from the Enterprise Car Rental Centre.

You'd be surprised, not sure about the X34/X24, but I've dropped off fairly often at Testos on the X36, and further up before Whitemare Pool. This morning included.
deanmachine
12 May 2017, 7:52 pm #51

(12 May 2017, 7:21 pm)South Tyne Lad Both the X24/34 do stop at Testo's, But no one alights/boards there due it being near nothing, Apart from the Enterprise Car Rental Centre.

You'd be surprised, not sure about the X34/X24, but I've dropped off fairly often at Testos on the X36, and further up before Whitemare Pool. This morning included.

LVK 404L



993
12 May 2017, 8:35 pm #52
The x24 and X34 do not and have never stopped at Testo roundabout 

the stop is served by x9  x10 X36 35 35a. And soon to be x55  yes there are a few people use the stop it's saves a trek to heworth gatesheas or newcastle for anyone going southbound towards Boro
Edited 12 May 2017, 8:36 pm by LVK 404L.
LVK 404L
12 May 2017, 8:35 pm #52

The x24 and X34 do not and have never stopped at Testo roundabout 

the stop is served by x9  x10 X36 35 35a. And soon to be x55  yes there are a few people use the stop it's saves a trek to heworth gatesheas or newcastle for anyone going southbound towards Boro

James101



651
12 May 2017, 9:31 pm #53
(12 May 2017, 5:54 pm)Mark1 Is there a particular reason why the X55 stops at Testos Roundabout when the more local services X24 and X34 don't.

I believe it's to do with concesionary passes. To separate 'local' and 'national' bus travel, passes are valid only on services which stop at least every 15 miles. By registering Testo's as a stop the X55 comes under this definition of 'local'.

It's the same reason why Transdev's Cityzap has a registered stop at an obscure Little Chef on the A64 and why Stagecoach Cumbria's X8, Catch 22's Red Rocket and Preston Bus's 830 all do/did not accept passes.
James101
12 May 2017, 9:31 pm #53

(12 May 2017, 5:54 pm)Mark1 Is there a particular reason why the X55 stops at Testos Roundabout when the more local services X24 and X34 don't.

I believe it's to do with concesionary passes. To separate 'local' and 'national' bus travel, passes are valid only on services which stop at least every 15 miles. By registering Testo's as a stop the X55 comes under this definition of 'local'.

It's the same reason why Transdev's Cityzap has a registered stop at an obscure Little Chef on the A64 and why Stagecoach Cumbria's X8, Catch 22's Red Rocket and Preston Bus's 830 all do/did not accept passes.

13 May 2017, 9:23 am #54
19218 now carrying an all-over advert for the Samsung Galaxy S8.


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RBZ 5459
13 May 2017, 9:23 am #54

19218 now carrying an all-over advert for the Samsung Galaxy S8.



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13 May 2017, 10:37 am #55
(12 May 2017, 3:21 pm)LiamD55 Fair to say the E300s  brought in for the 100 have been fated . What is the PVR for the 100 now is it 4 ? Suprised Slatyford havent allocated 4 MMC200 to the 100 for the time being

Should never of taken 27506-27510 off the 100, they seemed to done good on the 100 over the many years they were on there.
WestDurhamSwift
13 May 2017, 10:37 am #55

(12 May 2017, 3:21 pm)LiamD55 Fair to say the E300s  brought in for the 100 have been fated . What is the PVR for the 100 now is it 4 ? Suprised Slatyford havent allocated 4 MMC200 to the 100 for the time being

Should never of taken 27506-27510 off the 100, they seemed to done good on the 100 over the many years they were on there.

AIG20



378
13 May 2017, 11:30 am #56
Does anyone know what's happening to those other two former Scotland (new to Wales) Man E300s 22784/87 ?

According to Steven Knight Media on 7th April these were meant to be transferring to the North East.
AIG20
13 May 2017, 11:30 am #56

Does anyone know what's happening to those other two former Scotland (new to Wales) Man E300s 22784/87 ?

According to Steven Knight Media on 7th April these were meant to be transferring to the North East.

Cock Robin



2,778
13 May 2017, 1:03 pm #57
(12 May 2017, 9:31 pm)James101 I believe it's to do with concesionary passes. To separate 'local' and 'national' bus travel, passes are valid only on services which stop at least every 15 miles. By registering Testo's as a stop the X55 comes under this definition of 'local'.

It's the same reason why Transdev's Cityzap has a registered stop at an obscure Little Chef on the A64 and why Stagecoach Cumbria's X8, Catch 22's Red Rocket and Preston Bus's 830 all do/did not accept passes.

Doesn't it also get round tacho regulations?
Cock Robin
13 May 2017, 1:03 pm #57

(12 May 2017, 9:31 pm)James101 I believe it's to do with concesionary passes. To separate 'local' and 'national' bus travel, passes are valid only on services which stop at least every 15 miles. By registering Testo's as a stop the X55 comes under this definition of 'local'.

It's the same reason why Transdev's Cityzap has a registered stop at an obscure Little Chef on the A64 and why Stagecoach Cumbria's X8, Catch 22's Red Rocket and Preston Bus's 830 all do/did not accept passes.

Doesn't it also get round tacho regulations?

James101



651
13 May 2017, 1:12 pm #58
(13 May 2017, 1:03 pm)Cock Robin Doesn't it also get round tacho regulations?

That's a similar situation but they've chose to break the route at Dalton Park to avoid the use of tachos. From a legal perspective there's two separate X55s - one from Stockton to Dalton Park and one from Dalton Park to Newcastle. Doesn't make a difference from a passenger point of view other than a disclaimer in the timetable and the destination will probably read something along the lines of 'Dalton Park for Newcastle'.

It shows the pointless bureaucracy and need for reform of driving regulations if they can be so easily side-stepped, but I guess there's more pressing matters.
James101
13 May 2017, 1:12 pm #58

(13 May 2017, 1:03 pm)Cock Robin Doesn't it also get round tacho regulations?

That's a similar situation but they've chose to break the route at Dalton Park to avoid the use of tachos. From a legal perspective there's two separate X55s - one from Stockton to Dalton Park and one from Dalton Park to Newcastle. Doesn't make a difference from a passenger point of view other than a disclaimer in the timetable and the destination will probably read something along the lines of 'Dalton Park for Newcastle'.

It shows the pointless bureaucracy and need for reform of driving regulations if they can be so easily side-stepped, but I guess there's more pressing matters.

Cock Robin



2,778
13 May 2017, 2:01 pm #59
(13 May 2017, 1:12 pm)James101 That's a similar situation but they've chose to break the route at Dalton Park to avoid the use of tachos. From a legal perspective there's two separate X55s - one from Stockton to Dalton Park and one from Dalton Park to Newcastle. Doesn't make a difference from a passenger point of view other than a disclaimer in the timetable and the destination will probably read something along the lines of 'Dalton Park for Newcastle'.

It shows the pointless bureaucracy and need for reform of driving regulations if they can be so easily side-stepped, but I guess there's more pressing matters.

Agree!
Cock Robin
13 May 2017, 2:01 pm #59

(13 May 2017, 1:12 pm)James101 That's a similar situation but they've chose to break the route at Dalton Park to avoid the use of tachos. From a legal perspective there's two separate X55s - one from Stockton to Dalton Park and one from Dalton Park to Newcastle. Doesn't make a difference from a passenger point of view other than a disclaimer in the timetable and the destination will probably read something along the lines of 'Dalton Park for Newcastle'.

It shows the pointless bureaucracy and need for reform of driving regulations if they can be so easily side-stepped, but I guess there's more pressing matters.

Agree!

big mac



430
13 May 2017, 7:44 pm #60
(13 May 2017, 1:12 pm)James101 That's a similar situation but they've chose to break the route at Dalton Park to avoid the use of tachos. From a legal perspective there's two separate X55s - one from Stockton to Dalton Park and one from Dalton Park to Newcastle. Doesn't make a difference from a passenger point of view other than a disclaimer in the timetable and the destination will probably read something along the lines of 'Dalton Park for Newcastle'.

It shows the pointless bureaucracy and need for reform of driving regulations if they can be so easily side-stepped, but I guess there's more pressing matters.

I presume this is the reason why the Arriva x12 always has "Durham for Middlesbrough" on its destination blind?
big mac
13 May 2017, 7:44 pm #60

(13 May 2017, 1:12 pm)James101 That's a similar situation but they've chose to break the route at Dalton Park to avoid the use of tachos. From a legal perspective there's two separate X55s - one from Stockton to Dalton Park and one from Dalton Park to Newcastle. Doesn't make a difference from a passenger point of view other than a disclaimer in the timetable and the destination will probably read something along the lines of 'Dalton Park for Newcastle'.

It shows the pointless bureaucracy and need for reform of driving regulations if they can be so easily side-stepped, but I guess there's more pressing matters.

I presume this is the reason why the Arriva x12 always has "Durham for Middlesbrough" on its destination blind?

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