(01 Sep 2017, 8:31 pm)citaro5284 Cannot do much when the vehicles are delayed by the manufacturer.
(01 Sep 2017, 8:58 pm)JP6004 It looks really smart. Dont like the rear at all especially since all the windows are covered up
(01 Sep 2017, 8:58 pm)JP6004 It looks really smart. Dont like the rear at all especially since all the windows are covered up
(01 Sep 2017, 9:18 pm)Andreos1 That's just poor planning though. Having some sort of give in delivery is surely a must?
Just incase there's an issue with production, PDI's, ferry crossings etc
(01 Sep 2017, 9:18 pm)Andreos1 That's just poor planning though. Having some sort of give in delivery is surely a must?
Just incase there's an issue with production, PDI's, ferry crossings etc
(01 Sep 2017, 9:29 pm)James101 And putting an image of a full bus with standees to tempt motorists following behind on the A19? Hmmmm
(01 Sep 2017, 9:29 pm)James101 And putting an image of a full bus with standees to tempt motorists following behind on the A19? Hmmmm
(01 Sep 2017, 10:51 pm)stagecoachbusdepot Haha good point hadn't clocked that - maybe they still need to add the tagline 'you too could stand for an hour and a half instead of sitting in your comfy car for half that long'
(01 Sep 2017, 10:51 pm)stagecoachbusdepot Haha good point hadn't clocked that - maybe they still need to add the tagline 'you too could stand for an hour and a half instead of sitting in your comfy car for half that long'
(01 Sep 2017, 9:18 pm)Andreos1 That's just poor planning though. Having some sort of give in delivery is surely a must?
Just incase there's an issue with production, PDI's, ferry crossings etc
(01 Sep 2017, 9:18 pm)Andreos1 That's just poor planning though. Having some sort of give in delivery is surely a must?
Just incase there's an issue with production, PDI's, ferry crossings etc
(02 Sep 2017, 6:00 am)citaro5284 Not really. You order a bus a months in advance and are given a rough delivery date, it is not nearer the time you are given a more robust delivery plan, but by then like the X9/X10, the service has be registered 8 weeks in advance, so you can register a service before you know the proper delivery plan of the vehicles.
Other bus companies have exactly the same issue when they order new vehicles - all cannot have bad planning.
(02 Sep 2017, 6:00 am)citaro5284 Not really. You order a bus a months in advance and are given a rough delivery date, it is not nearer the time you are given a more robust delivery plan, but by then like the X9/X10, the service has be registered 8 weeks in advance, so you can register a service before you know the proper delivery plan of the vehicles.
Other bus companies have exactly the same issue when they order new vehicles - all cannot have bad planning.
(02 Sep 2017, 6:00 am)citaro5284 Not really. You order a bus a months in advance and are given a rough delivery date, it is not nearer the time you are given a more robust delivery plan, but by then like the X9/X10, the service has be registered 8 weeks in advance, so you can register a service before you know the proper delivery plan of the vehicles.
Other bus companies have exactly the same issue when they order new vehicles - all cannot have bad planning.
(02 Sep 2017, 6:00 am)citaro5284 Not really. You order a bus a months in advance and are given a rough delivery date, it is not nearer the time you are given a more robust delivery plan, but by then like the X9/X10, the service has be registered 8 weeks in advance, so you can register a service before you know the proper delivery plan of the vehicles.
Other bus companies have exactly the same issue when they order new vehicles - all cannot have bad planning.
(01 Sep 2017, 9:29 pm)James101 And putting an image of a full bus with standees to tempt motorists following behind on the A19? Hmmmm
(01 Sep 2017, 10:51 pm)stagecoachbusdepot Haha good point hadn't clocked that - maybe they still need to add the tagline 'you too could stand for an hour and a half instead of sitting in your comfy car for half that long'
(02 Sep 2017, 4:01 am)LeeCalder I think from the side it looks good, from the rear though - awful.
(01 Sep 2017, 9:29 pm)James101 And putting an image of a full bus with standees to tempt motorists following behind on the A19? Hmmmm
(01 Sep 2017, 10:51 pm)stagecoachbusdepot Haha good point hadn't clocked that - maybe they still need to add the tagline 'you too could stand for an hour and a half instead of sitting in your comfy car for half that long'
(02 Sep 2017, 4:01 am)LeeCalder I think from the side it looks good, from the rear though - awful.
(01 Sep 2017, 8:19 pm)RBZ 5459 I quite like it. Although shame about the vinyl slapped on the top deck back window. A slight after thought by the looks of it.
(01 Sep 2017, 8:19 pm)RBZ 5459 I quite like it. Although shame about the vinyl slapped on the top deck back window. A slight after thought by the looks of it.
(01 Sep 2017, 8:58 pm)JP6004 It looks really smart. Dont like the rear at all especially since all the windows are covered up
(01 Sep 2017, 8:58 pm)JP6004 It looks really smart. Dont like the rear at all especially since all the windows are covered up
(02 Sep 2017, 9:21 am)citaro5284 Lets hope the stickers hold better than the Streetdecks on Castles or the poor bloke - he will end up legless on the A19...and we all know that could be dangerous
How many adults look out of the rear window on a bus?, because i don't.
I see no one complaining about the Stagecoach Gas buses which have their rear window covered. (well apart from a few)
(02 Sep 2017, 9:21 am)citaro5284 Lets hope the stickers hold better than the Streetdecks on Castles or the poor bloke - he will end up legless on the A19...and we all know that could be dangerous
(02 Sep 2017, 9:24 am)Michael The flowers are starting to come off the FAB 56 too.
(02 Sep 2017, 9:24 am)Michael The flowers are starting to come off the FAB 56 too.
(02 Sep 2017, 9:31 am)Dan Vinyls are only ever expected to last around five years, so should ideally be replaced before this point. Go North East usually repaints its fleet on a four-year cycle which should solve the majority of issues.
A stronger adhesive is now being used for any vinyls being applied to the rears of buses, due to how warm this area on the bus gets. All of the Castles Express StreetDecks had their rear vinyls replaced a month or two ago with the new stronger adhesive. 6302 has also had a new vinyl fitted to the rear of the bus, covering the Wrightbus logo, with a large Go North East logo and the company's new slogan (Journeys taken care of).
(02 Sep 2017, 9:31 am)Dan Vinyls are only ever expected to last around five years, so should ideally be replaced before this point. Go North East usually repaints its fleet on a four-year cycle which should solve the majority of issues.
A stronger adhesive is now being used for any vinyls being applied to the rears of buses, due to how warm this area on the bus gets. All of the Castles Express StreetDecks had their rear vinyls replaced a month or two ago with the new stronger adhesive. 6302 has also had a new vinyl fitted to the rear of the bus, covering the Wrightbus logo, with a large Go North East logo and the company's new slogan (Journeys taken care of).
(02 Sep 2017, 9:05 am)Dan The rear is different to anything what we've seen in recent designs. There'll be five different designs - one showing a businessman, another showing a woman shopping, another showing a student, etc... 'Synergy' comes to mind - linking the brand to the service itself - the woman could have been shopping at Dalton Park, the student going to the college/uni served by the X10...Actually, after 6 weeks of entertaining 2 young lads through the medium of public transport, I can assure you that many bus users do indeed smell!
I'd suggest that there is a strong public perception that people who travel on public transport are beneath those on the Social Class hierarchy compared to those who travel by car - bus users smell, aren't as clean, and similar. Possibly not helped at times by the internal cleanliness of the buses themselves (picked up on recently elsewhere on the forum).
This idea is clever, and although it possibly isn't as obvious at first glance as it ought to be (unless it's planned to be supported by other forms of marketing associated with the new brand and new vehicles), I believe the intention is to show car users that they do have some commonality with bus users. These people shown inside the bus don't show the stereotypical signs of being smelly, unclean, and similar. Maybe they could try out the bus and see what it's like for themselves - especially based on the messages suggesting that fares are 'great value' etc. Obviously, it isn't to show someone standing on a full bus.
(02 Sep 2017, 9:05 am)Dan The rear is different to anything what we've seen in recent designs. There'll be five different designs - one showing a businessman, another showing a woman shopping, another showing a student, etc... 'Synergy' comes to mind - linking the brand to the service itself - the woman could have been shopping at Dalton Park, the student going to the college/uni served by the X10...Actually, after 6 weeks of entertaining 2 young lads through the medium of public transport, I can assure you that many bus users do indeed smell!
I'd suggest that there is a strong public perception that people who travel on public transport are beneath those on the Social Class hierarchy compared to those who travel by car - bus users smell, aren't as clean, and similar. Possibly not helped at times by the internal cleanliness of the buses themselves (picked up on recently elsewhere on the forum).
This idea is clever, and although it possibly isn't as obvious at first glance as it ought to be (unless it's planned to be supported by other forms of marketing associated with the new brand and new vehicles), I believe the intention is to show car users that they do have some commonality with bus users. These people shown inside the bus don't show the stereotypical signs of being smelly, unclean, and similar. Maybe they could try out the bus and see what it's like for themselves - especially based on the messages suggesting that fares are 'great value' etc. Obviously, it isn't to show someone standing on a full bus.
(02 Sep 2017, 9:13 am)Dan Not an after thought at all. Sell, sell, and sell again. Some brands have meaning - this one less so. It's a hard sell, and it does exactly what it says on the tin. There's a lot of repetition of the features available on the X9/X10 services (free Wi-Fi, contactless payments, etc) and it's all done in the interests of getting more people on the bus on a heavily competitive route with rail services.
It was originally planned for the 'bus user' photograph to be further up the bus, with the yellow 'block' on the rear upper-deck window to be at the very bottom (easier for cars behind to see). Clearly this wouldn't have been possible based on the bus design and where the rear destination display is, so things were shuffled around. It's not the best in terms of design, but nobody can deny it stands out a mile, which can only be a good thing?
(02 Sep 2017, 9:13 am)Dan Not an after thought at all. Sell, sell, and sell again. Some brands have meaning - this one less so. It's a hard sell, and it does exactly what it says on the tin. There's a lot of repetition of the features available on the X9/X10 services (free Wi-Fi, contactless payments, etc) and it's all done in the interests of getting more people on the bus on a heavily competitive route with rail services.
It was originally planned for the 'bus user' photograph to be further up the bus, with the yellow 'block' on the rear upper-deck window to be at the very bottom (easier for cars behind to see). Clearly this wouldn't have been possible based on the bus design and where the rear destination display is, so things were shuffled around. It's not the best in terms of design, but nobody can deny it stands out a mile, which can only be a good thing?