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Arriva North East: Latest News & Discussion - October 2017

 
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06 Oct 2017, 9:05 pm #21
(06 Oct 2017, 11:53 am)Stuartphin1639 7413 is going for a crosspennine journey on the 685 today

Indeed, it is the vehicle to transfer to Jesmond as the summer X18 timetable ends. Presumably so that it can be used on the 12:50.
mb134
06 Oct 2017, 9:05 pm #21

(06 Oct 2017, 11:53 am)Stuartphin1639 7413 is going for a crosspennine journey on the 685 today

Indeed, it is the vehicle to transfer to Jesmond as the summer X18 timetable ends. Presumably so that it can be used on the 12:50.

Jimmi



10,969
06 Oct 2017, 9:22 pm #22
(06 Oct 2017, 9:05 pm)mb134 Indeed, it is the vehicle to transfer to Jesmond as the summer X18 timetable ends. Presumably so that it can be used on the 12:50.

Wish they could find a double decker to send to Darlington for the morning Bishop Auckland College 5A run, allowing 7538 to go back onto the 7 as it leaves Darlington with no Sapphire spares and as such we've ended up with at least one Sapphire bus missing from the 7 each day, often two! Perhaps one of Redcar's B7s when the X93 reverts to off peak timetable, sadly won't happen though, wouldn't be surprised if one ends up at Blyth to withdraw 7439.
Jimmi
06 Oct 2017, 9:22 pm #22

(06 Oct 2017, 9:05 pm)mb134 Indeed, it is the vehicle to transfer to Jesmond as the summer X18 timetable ends. Presumably so that it can be used on the 12:50.

Wish they could find a double decker to send to Darlington for the morning Bishop Auckland College 5A run, allowing 7538 to go back onto the 7 as it leaves Darlington with no Sapphire spares and as such we've ended up with at least one Sapphire bus missing from the 7 each day, often two! Perhaps one of Redcar's B7s when the X93 reverts to off peak timetable, sadly won't happen though, wouldn't be surprised if one ends up at Blyth to withdraw 7439.

mb134



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06 Oct 2017, 9:49 pm #23
(06 Oct 2017, 9:22 pm)Jimmi Wish they could find a double decker to send to Darlington for the morning Bishop Auckland College 5A run, allowing 7538 to go back onto the 7 as it leaves Darlington with no Sapphire spares and as such we've ended up with at least one Sapphire bus missing from the 7 each day, often two! Perhaps one of Redcar's B7s when the X93 reverts to off peak timetable, sadly won't happen though, wouldn't be surprised if one ends up at Blyth to withdraw 7439.

I imagine the reason 7413 has transferred to Jesmond is either to increase capacity on the X16, or for the 12:50 685, or a combination of both. The advantages of 7413 being at Jesmond probably outweigh any potential disadvantages of Ashington keeping 4664. 

Potential for some of the X15 E400s to move to Darlington next year perhaps to help with that?
mb134
06 Oct 2017, 9:49 pm #23

(06 Oct 2017, 9:22 pm)Jimmi Wish they could find a double decker to send to Darlington for the morning Bishop Auckland College 5A run, allowing 7538 to go back onto the 7 as it leaves Darlington with no Sapphire spares and as such we've ended up with at least one Sapphire bus missing from the 7 each day, often two! Perhaps one of Redcar's B7s when the X93 reverts to off peak timetable, sadly won't happen though, wouldn't be surprised if one ends up at Blyth to withdraw 7439.

I imagine the reason 7413 has transferred to Jesmond is either to increase capacity on the X16, or for the 12:50 685, or a combination of both. The advantages of 7413 being at Jesmond probably outweigh any potential disadvantages of Ashington keeping 4664. 

Potential for some of the X15 E400s to move to Darlington next year perhaps to help with that?

Jimmi



10,969
06 Oct 2017, 10:30 pm #24
(06 Oct 2017, 9:49 pm)mb134 I imagine the reason 7413 has transferred to Jesmond is either to increase capacity on the X16, or for the 12:50 685, or a combination of both. The advantages of 7413 being at Jesmond probably outweigh any potential disadvantages of Ashington keeping 4664. 

Potential for some of the X15 E400s to move to Darlington next year perhaps to help with that?

No chance of that happening, unfortunately. Doesn't help the extra capacity is only required for one college run and as the year goes on, the numbers will drop to a point where Pulsar's will suffice for that trip. It's a pain having a E400 on the 5A as quite a lot of the custom is elderly and disabled, so you often end up with just about all the seats taken downstairs and have bags and tartan shopping trollies in the way whilst you are the only one sat upstairs.
Jimmi
06 Oct 2017, 10:30 pm #24

(06 Oct 2017, 9:49 pm)mb134 I imagine the reason 7413 has transferred to Jesmond is either to increase capacity on the X16, or for the 12:50 685, or a combination of both. The advantages of 7413 being at Jesmond probably outweigh any potential disadvantages of Ashington keeping 4664. 

Potential for some of the X15 E400s to move to Darlington next year perhaps to help with that?

No chance of that happening, unfortunately. Doesn't help the extra capacity is only required for one college run and as the year goes on, the numbers will drop to a point where Pulsar's will suffice for that trip. It's a pain having a E400 on the 5A as quite a lot of the custom is elderly and disabled, so you often end up with just about all the seats taken downstairs and have bags and tartan shopping trollies in the way whilst you are the only one sat upstairs.

BusLoverMum



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06 Oct 2017, 10:54 pm #25
(06 Oct 2017, 7:31 pm)2bagstew Arriva have said they plan too included Wheatley Hill & Thornley in the “East Durham Saver” Ticket.
But they wouldn’t say when.


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BusLoverMum
06 Oct 2017, 10:54 pm #25

(06 Oct 2017, 7:31 pm)2bagstew Arriva have said they plan too included Wheatley Hill & Thornley in the “East Durham Saver” Ticket.
But they wouldn’t say when.


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08 Oct 2017, 4:21 pm #26
Can anybody confirm if the Sedgefield to Middlesbrough section of the X22 is paid for by DCC


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2bagstew
08 Oct 2017, 4:21 pm #26

Can anybody confirm if the Sedgefield to Middlesbrough section of the X22 is paid for by DCC


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08 Oct 2017, 6:38 pm #27
(08 Oct 2017, 4:21 pm)2bagstew Can anybody confirm if the Sedgefield to Middlesbrough section of the X22 is paid for by DCC


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I gather they get a de-minimis payment towards the whole service but is run commercially, much like the 57a

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tyresmoke
08 Oct 2017, 6:38 pm #27

(08 Oct 2017, 4:21 pm)2bagstew Can anybody confirm if the Sedgefield to Middlesbrough section of the X22 is paid for by DCC


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08 Oct 2017, 7:08 pm #28
(08 Oct 2017, 6:38 pm)tyresmoke I gather they get a de-minimis payment towards the whole service but is run commercially, much like the 57a


DCC have told me Arriva wanted too run two X21 with a link at Sedgefield too X12 for Middlesbrough.


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2bagstew
08 Oct 2017, 7:08 pm #28

(08 Oct 2017, 6:38 pm)tyresmoke I gather they get a de-minimis payment towards the whole service but is run commercially, much like the 57a


DCC have told me Arriva wanted too run two X21 with a link at Sedgefield too X12 for Middlesbrough.


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10 Oct 2017, 12:48 pm #29
2834 has returned from Thorntons after repaint into new corporate livery. 1923 going through now.


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10 Oct 2017, 12:48 pm #29

2834 has returned from Thorntons after repaint into new corporate livery. 1923 going through now.



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10 Oct 2017, 2:16 pm #30
Doxford Park have rebranded, so I assume we'll be applying the new logos straight away.
omnicity4659
10 Oct 2017, 2:16 pm #30

Doxford Park have rebranded, so I assume we'll be applying the new logos straight away.

13 Oct 2017, 2:56 pm #31
Has anything left Durham yet following the arrival of the Optare Tempo's?
Dans_bus_photos
13 Oct 2017, 2:56 pm #31

Has anything left Durham yet following the arrival of the Optare Tempo's?

Cock Robin



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14 Oct 2017, 2:42 pm #32
(13 Oct 2017, 2:56 pm)Dans_bus_photos Has anything left Durham yet following the arrival of the Optare Tempo's?

Good question!
Cock Robin
14 Oct 2017, 2:42 pm #32

(13 Oct 2017, 2:56 pm)Dans_bus_photos Has anything left Durham yet following the arrival of the Optare Tempo's?

Good question!

Dan

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18,114
14 Oct 2017, 3:06 pm #33
(13 Oct 2017, 2:56 pm)Dans_bus_photos Has anything left Durham yet following the arrival of the Optare Tempo's?

(14 Oct 2017, 2:42 pm)Cock Robin Good question!

No Solos have yet left Durham - I think there's only one or two Tempos in service at Durham (with most having been taken back out of service following entry into service).

I think there's a plan for the Tempos to undergo repaint and have a good once over by engineering before drip-feeding them into service and replacing the Solos one by one.
Dan
14 Oct 2017, 3:06 pm #33

(13 Oct 2017, 2:56 pm)Dans_bus_photos Has anything left Durham yet following the arrival of the Optare Tempo's?

(14 Oct 2017, 2:42 pm)Cock Robin Good question!

No Solos have yet left Durham - I think there's only one or two Tempos in service at Durham (with most having been taken back out of service following entry into service).

I think there's a plan for the Tempos to undergo repaint and have a good once over by engineering before drip-feeding them into service and replacing the Solos one by one.

14 Oct 2017, 9:17 pm #34
(14 Oct 2017, 3:06 pm)Dan No Solos have yet left Durham - I think there's only one or two Tempos in service at Durham (with most having been taken back out of service following entry into service).

I think there's a plan for the Tempos to undergo repaint and have a good once over by engineering before drip-feeding them into service and replacing the Solos one by one.

I was wondering what was happening on that score, particularly as the Tempos don't seem to have made it onto this site's Fleetlist yet .... Wink
Ianthegoon
14 Oct 2017, 9:17 pm #34

(14 Oct 2017, 3:06 pm)Dan No Solos have yet left Durham - I think there's only one or two Tempos in service at Durham (with most having been taken back out of service following entry into service).

I think there's a plan for the Tempos to undergo repaint and have a good once over by engineering before drip-feeding them into service and replacing the Solos one by one.

I was wondering what was happening on that score, particularly as the Tempos don't seem to have made it onto this site's Fleetlist yet .... Wink

Dan

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15 Oct 2017, 10:26 am #35
(14 Oct 2017, 9:17 pm)Ianthegoon I was wondering what was happening on that score, particularly as the Tempos don't seem to have made it onto this site's Fleetlist yet .... Wink

They were there but you couldn't see them as they were over-written by the 'original' 1307 - 1312 (the X-GGO Darts, which Jimmi loves dearly and still mourns the loss of, to this day!)

I didn't realise that we'd already used these numbers in the fleet list database before - Arriva's use of the same fleet numbers time and time again doesn't help us! Sorted now...
Dan
15 Oct 2017, 10:26 am #35

(14 Oct 2017, 9:17 pm)Ianthegoon I was wondering what was happening on that score, particularly as the Tempos don't seem to have made it onto this site's Fleetlist yet .... Wink

They were there but you couldn't see them as they were over-written by the 'original' 1307 - 1312 (the X-GGO Darts, which Jimmi loves dearly and still mourns the loss of, to this day!)

I didn't realise that we'd already used these numbers in the fleet list database before - Arriva's use of the same fleet numbers time and time again doesn't help us! Sorted now...

tyresmoke



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15 Oct 2017, 11:10 am #36
I believe they're to undergo a refurbishment program before entering service again. I wonder if they're overhauling them mechanically too before doing this.

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tyresmoke
15 Oct 2017, 11:10 am #36

I believe they're to undergo a refurbishment program before entering service again. I wonder if they're overhauling them mechanically too before doing this.


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16 Oct 2017, 12:32 pm #37
Has anyone spotted any Radio X 'car stickers' on the backs of Arriva buses? They seem to be cropping up in Yorkshire, Midlands and Kent & Surrey... Strange way of advertising...

It's being plugged by Arriva's social media too.
Edited 16 Oct 2017, 12:33 pm by omnicity4659.
omnicity4659
16 Oct 2017, 12:32 pm #37

Has anyone spotted any Radio X 'car stickers' on the backs of Arriva buses? They seem to be cropping up in Yorkshire, Midlands and Kent & Surrey... Strange way of advertising...

It's being plugged by Arriva's social media too.

Jimmi



10,969
16 Oct 2017, 4:30 pm #38
(16 Oct 2017, 12:32 pm)omnicity4659 Has anyone spotted any Radio X 'car stickers' on the backs of Arriva buses? They seem to be cropping up in Yorkshire, Midlands and Kent & Surrey... Strange way of advertising...

It's being plugged by Arriva's social media too.

Specifically it's advertising the Chris Moyles Show On Radio X. Suppose it gives both Arriva and Radio X some publicity.

Some photos have just been posted on The Chris Moyles Show On Radio X, Facebook page including these two.
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No photos of any on Arriva North East buses, can't say I've seen any in the North East mind.
Edited 16 Oct 2017, 4:33 pm by Jimmi.
Jimmi
16 Oct 2017, 4:30 pm #38

(16 Oct 2017, 12:32 pm)omnicity4659 Has anyone spotted any Radio X 'car stickers' on the backs of Arriva buses? They seem to be cropping up in Yorkshire, Midlands and Kent & Surrey... Strange way of advertising...

It's being plugged by Arriva's social media too.

Specifically it's advertising the Chris Moyles Show On Radio X. Suppose it gives both Arriva and Radio X some publicity.

Some photos have just been posted on The Chris Moyles Show On Radio X, Facebook page including these two.
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No photos of any on Arriva North East buses, can't say I've seen any in the North East mind.

Dan

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17 Oct 2017, 6:48 am #39
(06 Oct 2017, 9:49 pm)mb134 I imagine the reason 7413 has transferred to Jesmond is either to increase capacity on the X16, or for the 12:50 685, or a combination of both. The advantages of 7413 being at Jesmond probably outweigh any potential disadvantages of Ashington keeping 4664. 

Potential for some of the X15 E400s to move to Darlington next year perhaps to help with that?

Yes, 7413 has transferred to operate one running board on service 685.

Now that a more appropriate vehicle has been sourced to be allocated to this running board, I believe it is allocated to the board all day (rather than just for one round trip at 12:50pm - board 685B). This has in turn released a "Cross Pennine" branded Scania OmniCity to replace 7478 in the fleet at Jesmond, which has in turn returned to a reserve role in the fleet. Likely to be disposed of, along with the others in its batch, at the end of October following the end of all Metro Replacement and Rail Replacement contracts.
Dan
17 Oct 2017, 6:48 am #39

(06 Oct 2017, 9:49 pm)mb134 I imagine the reason 7413 has transferred to Jesmond is either to increase capacity on the X16, or for the 12:50 685, or a combination of both. The advantages of 7413 being at Jesmond probably outweigh any potential disadvantages of Ashington keeping 4664. 

Potential for some of the X15 E400s to move to Darlington next year perhaps to help with that?

Yes, 7413 has transferred to operate one running board on service 685.

Now that a more appropriate vehicle has been sourced to be allocated to this running board, I believe it is allocated to the board all day (rather than just for one round trip at 12:50pm - board 685B). This has in turn released a "Cross Pennine" branded Scania OmniCity to replace 7478 in the fleet at Jesmond, which has in turn returned to a reserve role in the fleet. Likely to be disposed of, along with the others in its batch, at the end of October following the end of all Metro Replacement and Rail Replacement contracts.

mb134



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17 Oct 2017, 6:59 am #40
(17 Oct 2017, 6:48 am)Dan Yes, 7413 has transferred to operate one running board on service 685.

Now that a more appropriate vehicle has been sourced to be allocated to this running board, I believe it is allocated to the board all day (rather than just for one round trip at 12:50pm - board 685B). This has in turn released a "Cross Pennine" branded Scania OmniCity to replace 7478 in the fleet at Jesmond, which has in turn returned to a reserve role in the fleet. Likely to be disposed of, along with the others in its batch, at the end of October following the end of all Metro Replacement and Rail Replacement contracts.

Can't help but think there are more suitable vehicles available than a 15 year old, clapped out, ex-London B7.
mb134
17 Oct 2017, 6:59 am #40

(17 Oct 2017, 6:48 am)Dan Yes, 7413 has transferred to operate one running board on service 685.

Now that a more appropriate vehicle has been sourced to be allocated to this running board, I believe it is allocated to the board all day (rather than just for one round trip at 12:50pm - board 685B). This has in turn released a "Cross Pennine" branded Scania OmniCity to replace 7478 in the fleet at Jesmond, which has in turn returned to a reserve role in the fleet. Likely to be disposed of, along with the others in its batch, at the end of October following the end of all Metro Replacement and Rail Replacement contracts.

Can't help but think there are more suitable vehicles available than a 15 year old, clapped out, ex-London B7.

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