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Malarkey



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05 Nov 2017, 5:13 pm #61
(05 Nov 2017, 5:05 pm)Dan I would have thought if there were plans to refurbish the OmniCitys, these would have been done before the younger Mercedes Citaros.

If anything, I think we'll just see Wi-Fi retrofitted to the examples which haven't yet had this work done already. It won't be too long before these buses are on "lesser" routes - they probably wouldn't justify the significant investment to undergo a full refurbishment.

In all fairness the existing Toon Link examples are only 3 Months older the existing Blaydon Racers Mercs so it's not though there is major age gap between them.
Malarkey
05 Nov 2017, 5:13 pm #61

(05 Nov 2017, 5:05 pm)Dan I would have thought if there were plans to refurbish the OmniCitys, these would have been done before the younger Mercedes Citaros.

If anything, I think we'll just see Wi-Fi retrofitted to the examples which haven't yet had this work done already. It won't be too long before these buses are on "lesser" routes - they probably wouldn't justify the significant investment to undergo a full refurbishment.

In all fairness the existing Toon Link examples are only 3 Months older the existing Blaydon Racers Mercs so it's not though there is major age gap between them.

Dan

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05 Nov 2017, 5:17 pm #62
(05 Nov 2017, 5:13 pm)Malarkey In all fairness the existing Toon Link examples are only 3 Months older the existing Blaydon Racers Mercs so it's not though there is major age gap between them.

But there is a 'major age gap' between them and the 10-plate Mercedes Citaros which have since been refurbished. Wink

I think it is more likely that the Optare Versas new between 2009 and 2011 will be refurbished in the next financial year.
Dan
05 Nov 2017, 5:17 pm #62

(05 Nov 2017, 5:13 pm)Malarkey In all fairness the existing Toon Link examples are only 3 Months older the existing Blaydon Racers Mercs so it's not though there is major age gap between them.

But there is a 'major age gap' between them and the 10-plate Mercedes Citaros which have since been refurbished. Wink

I think it is more likely that the Optare Versas new between 2009 and 2011 will be refurbished in the next financial year.

JP6004



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05 Nov 2017, 5:23 pm #63
(05 Nov 2017, 4:35 pm)Michael Civic V3 i would imagine, they're going to be better spec than the Connections 4 Citaro's, if they go back to Washington... But i don't think they will, same as 5324.

The Connections4 citaros might get USB and leather seating retrofitted while on warranty repaint, which i think should be due soon...
JP6004
05 Nov 2017, 5:23 pm #63

(05 Nov 2017, 4:35 pm)Michael Civic V3 i would imagine, they're going to be better spec than the Connections 4 Citaro's, if they go back to Washington... But i don't think they will, same as 5324.

The Connections4 citaros might get USB and leather seating retrofitted while on warranty repaint, which i think should be due soon...

Michael



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05 Nov 2017, 5:26 pm #64
(05 Nov 2017, 5:17 pm)Dan But there is a 'major age gap' between them and the 10-plate Mercedes Citaros which have since been refurbished. Wink

I think it is more likely that the Optare Versas new between 2009 and 2011 will be refurbished in the next financial year.



That would be good, least the Versa's on the 36 will be up to the same spec as the 35! 

Shame they're rubbish, hopefully if they do go for a refurbishment then the Quaylink brand is sorted in to a proper sequence, as they have 3 different aged Versa's.


Or at least get it in to some sort of sequence for other routes which use Versa's.

(05 Nov 2017, 5:23 pm)JP6004 The Connections4 citaros might get USB and leather seating retrofitted while on warranty repaint, which i think should be due soon...

Hopefully, would be good if they did, least then all the Citaro's would be the same.
Edited 05 Nov 2017, 5:29 pm by Michael.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
05 Nov 2017, 5:26 pm #64

(05 Nov 2017, 5:17 pm)Dan But there is a 'major age gap' between them and the 10-plate Mercedes Citaros which have since been refurbished. Wink

I think it is more likely that the Optare Versas new between 2009 and 2011 will be refurbished in the next financial year.



That would be good, least the Versa's on the 36 will be up to the same spec as the 35! 

Shame they're rubbish, hopefully if they do go for a refurbishment then the Quaylink brand is sorted in to a proper sequence, as they have 3 different aged Versa's.


Or at least get it in to some sort of sequence for other routes which use Versa's.

(05 Nov 2017, 5:23 pm)JP6004 The Connections4 citaros might get USB and leather seating retrofitted while on warranty repaint, which i think should be due soon...

Hopefully, would be good if they did, least then all the Citaro's would be the same.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Dan

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05 Nov 2017, 5:29 pm #65
Also confirmed is the impending withdrawal of the Waggonway branded Scania L94s and remaining V-reg Volvo B7TL:

[Image: 38173535081_2363464ec5.jpg]Go North East 4957 NL52WVN by Andrew Tyldsley, on Flickr

[Image: 38173442291_e3060de828.jpg]Go North East 6009 V209LGC by Andrew Tyldsley, on Flickr
Dan
05 Nov 2017, 5:29 pm #65

Also confirmed is the impending withdrawal of the Waggonway branded Scania L94s and remaining V-reg Volvo B7TL:

[Image: 38173535081_2363464ec5.jpg]Go North East 4957 NL52WVN by Andrew Tyldsley, on Flickr

[Image: 38173442291_e3060de828.jpg]Go North East 6009 V209LGC by Andrew Tyldsley, on Flickr

Dan

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05 Nov 2017, 5:47 pm #66
(05 Nov 2017, 4:35 pm)Dan On paper, once the Mercedes Citaro refurbishment programme is completed (so late January).

The transfer of 5201 and 5202 to Riverside has no bearing on the withdrawal of any further elderly Volvo B10BLE or Scania L94 from Riverside.

Possibly worth mentioning that one of the main reasons why 4898 has been withdrawn so soon is because a buyer has already expressed interest in taking 4898. Another example of its kind saved for preservation, joining 4855 and 4897.

Pictured below at Saltmeadows Road, with the inscription "Do Not Remove Parts" on the windscreen:

[Image: 38108003726_006f7e86e5.jpg]Go North East: 4898 / V988ETN by Daniel Graham, on Flickr
Dan
05 Nov 2017, 5:47 pm #66

(05 Nov 2017, 4:35 pm)Dan On paper, once the Mercedes Citaro refurbishment programme is completed (so late January).

The transfer of 5201 and 5202 to Riverside has no bearing on the withdrawal of any further elderly Volvo B10BLE or Scania L94 from Riverside.

Possibly worth mentioning that one of the main reasons why 4898 has been withdrawn so soon is because a buyer has already expressed interest in taking 4898. Another example of its kind saved for preservation, joining 4855 and 4897.

Pictured below at Saltmeadows Road, with the inscription "Do Not Remove Parts" on the windscreen:

[Image: 38108003726_006f7e86e5.jpg]Go North East: 4898 / V988ETN by Daniel Graham, on Flickr

05 Nov 2017, 6:45 pm #67
Where will 5328/9 be hiding?
TyneWearTeesGNE
05 Nov 2017, 6:45 pm #67

Where will 5328/9 be hiding?

Dan

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05 Nov 2017, 6:46 pm #68
(05 Nov 2017, 6:45 pm)TyneWearTeesGNE Where will 5328/9 be hiding?

Deptford - undergoing preparation for PSV test, so likely in the workshop.

At least one of them should be done and out in service next Thursday, the other subject to completion of pre-PSV defect repairs.
Dan
05 Nov 2017, 6:46 pm #68

(05 Nov 2017, 6:45 pm)TyneWearTeesGNE Where will 5328/9 be hiding?

Deptford - undergoing preparation for PSV test, so likely in the workshop.

At least one of them should be done and out in service next Thursday, the other subject to completion of pre-PSV defect repairs.

Michael



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05 Nov 2017, 6:57 pm #69
What's replacing the Scania's on the "Waggonway"?

What's coming in to replace the Presidents?


I deleted my old post by accident.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
05 Nov 2017, 6:57 pm #69

What's replacing the Scania's on the "Waggonway"?

What's coming in to replace the Presidents?


I deleted my old post by accident.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

05 Nov 2017, 7:09 pm #70
(05 Nov 2017, 6:57 pm)Michael What's replacing the Scania's on the "Waggonway"?

What's coming in to replace the Presidents?


I deleted my old post by accident.

Younger Solars?
Indigo701
05 Nov 2017, 7:09 pm #70

(05 Nov 2017, 6:57 pm)Michael What's replacing the Scania's on the "Waggonway"?

What's coming in to replace the Presidents?


I deleted my old post by accident.

Younger Solars?

Michael



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05 Nov 2017, 7:15 pm #71
(05 Nov 2017, 7:09 pm)Indigo701 Younger Solars?

Which ones?, most have just been repainted in to the new "Go North East" livery?

Can't see them dropping the "Waggonway" brand.
Edited 05 Nov 2017, 7:18 pm by Michael.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
05 Nov 2017, 7:15 pm #71

(05 Nov 2017, 7:09 pm)Indigo701 Younger Solars?

Which ones?, most have just been repainted in to the new "Go North East" livery?

Can't see them dropping the "Waggonway" brand.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

park5354



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05 Nov 2017, 7:22 pm #72
(05 Nov 2017, 6:57 pm)Michael What's replacing the Scania's on the "Waggonway"?

What's coming in to replace the Presidents?


I deleted my old post by accident.

Citylink Versa, according to grapevine/chinese whispers etc !!!!!
Edited 05 Nov 2017, 7:22 pm by park5354.
park5354
05 Nov 2017, 7:22 pm #72

(05 Nov 2017, 6:57 pm)Michael What's replacing the Scania's on the "Waggonway"?

What's coming in to replace the Presidents?


I deleted my old post by accident.

Citylink Versa, according to grapevine/chinese whispers etc !!!!!

Michael



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05 Nov 2017, 7:29 pm #73
(05 Nov 2017, 7:22 pm)park5354 Citylink Versa, according to grapevine/chinese whispers etc !!!!!


Wouldn't be suprised if it was Versa's, could they cope on the 28/28A route?

5 to the Waggonway + 1 spare

Leaves 2 Versa's.

Streetlites for the 58? Wink

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
05 Nov 2017, 7:29 pm #73

(05 Nov 2017, 7:22 pm)park5354 Citylink Versa, according to grapevine/chinese whispers etc !!!!!


Wouldn't be suprised if it was Versa's, could they cope on the 28/28A route?

5 to the Waggonway + 1 spare

Leaves 2 Versa's.

Streetlites for the 58? Wink


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

05 Nov 2017, 7:43 pm #74
(05 Nov 2017, 7:29 pm)Michael Wouldn't be suprised if it was Versa's, could they cope on the 28/28A route?

5 to the Waggonway + 1 spare

Leaves 2 Versa's.

Streetlites for the 58? Wink

Ive heard south tyne versas with some other rumours around too.
Citaro5326
05 Nov 2017, 7:43 pm #74

(05 Nov 2017, 7:29 pm)Michael Wouldn't be suprised if it was Versa's, could they cope on the 28/28A route?

5 to the Waggonway + 1 spare

Leaves 2 Versa's.

Streetlites for the 58? Wink

Ive heard south tyne versas with some other rumours around too.

S830OFT



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05 Nov 2017, 7:52 pm #75
(05 Nov 2017, 7:43 pm)Citaro5326 Ive heard south tyne versas with some other rumours around too.

Surely the 34/34A are due new buses. 8302,04,05 could always go to Peterlee allowing Peterlee to allocate them like this:
8302: 452/968 - This will allow 705 to be allocated to service 168.
8304: 206 - 
8305: Spare for all services at Peterlee 
This would be a good idea for when the AD122 starts again because 635, 636 won't be at Peterlee then


S830OFT
05 Nov 2017, 7:52 pm #75

(05 Nov 2017, 7:43 pm)Citaro5326 Ive heard south tyne versas with some other rumours around too.

Surely the 34/34A are due new buses. 8302,04,05 could always go to Peterlee allowing Peterlee to allocate them like this:
8302: 452/968 - This will allow 705 to be allocated to service 168.
8304: 206 - 
8305: Spare for all services at Peterlee 
This would be a good idea for when the AD122 starts again because 635, 636 won't be at Peterlee then



S813 FVK



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05 Nov 2017, 7:55 pm #76
Versas are probably a bit bigger than what Peterlee actually need. I can see either more Solos coming into the fleet (new or second-hand) or service changes reducing the PVR freeing up some Solos (they would need at least 5?) Service changes could also include contract losses.
Edited 05 Nov 2017, 7:56 pm by S813 FVK.
S813 FVK
05 Nov 2017, 7:55 pm #76

Versas are probably a bit bigger than what Peterlee actually need. I can see either more Solos coming into the fleet (new or second-hand) or service changes reducing the PVR freeing up some Solos (they would need at least 5?) Service changes could also include contract losses.

big mac



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05 Nov 2017, 7:58 pm #77
The decision to introduce a full route on the x21 on Sunday seems to be a good one.  Has been well filled each time I have been on it.
big mac
05 Nov 2017, 7:58 pm #77

The decision to introduce a full route on the x21 on Sunday seems to be a good one.  Has been well filled each time I have been on it.

05 Nov 2017, 8:52 pm #78
My guess is for chester is
8294 - 8298 for 28/28A
8299-8302 on 34/34A
8304 & 8305 spare
Send either 8304 & 8305 to crook for 18s
695 & 696 to peterlee ready for 635/636 to go back for AD122
Citaro5326
05 Nov 2017, 8:52 pm #78

My guess is for chester is
8294 - 8298 for 28/28A
8299-8302 on 34/34A
8304 & 8305 spare
Send either 8304 & 8305 to crook for 18s
695 & 696 to peterlee ready for 635/636 to go back for AD122

05 Nov 2017, 9:16 pm #79
If the Versas are coming off South Tyneside, I do hope they replaced by omnicities or GNE to order enviro 200s.
Panasonic44
05 Nov 2017, 9:16 pm #79

If the Versas are coming off South Tyneside, I do hope they replaced by omnicities or GNE to order enviro 200s.

Jamie M

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06 Nov 2017, 10:37 am #80
Why would chester be using younger solars on the 28A if they've just sent 2 of them to another depot?
I think a corp brand could have worked but no point.

Wouldn't put it past streetlites. Wouldn't put it past the salty park streetlites being cascaded off as they've stayed as long as the versas beforehand.

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Jamie M
06 Nov 2017, 10:37 am #80

Why would chester be using younger solars on the 28A if they've just sent 2 of them to another depot?
I think a corp brand could have worked but no point.

Wouldn't put it past streetlites. Wouldn't put it past the salty park streetlites being cascaded off as they've stayed as long as the versas beforehand.

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