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citaro5284



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04 Nov 2017, 6:12 pm #41
(04 Nov 2017, 5:16 pm)S813 FVK While I remember:

What is the reasoning for some of the Versas (8322 & 8327 at least) having larger 'via' points the destinations, matching the size of the main terminal point? They seem to be the standard 144x19 display so I can't think of any reason as to why they would need to display things differently.

They have different microchips inside them - they were built like that at Hanover.
citaro5284
04 Nov 2017, 6:12 pm #41

(04 Nov 2017, 5:16 pm)S813 FVK While I remember:

What is the reasoning for some of the Versas (8322 & 8327 at least) having larger 'via' points the destinations, matching the size of the main terminal point? They seem to be the standard 144x19 display so I can't think of any reason as to why they would need to display things differently.

They have different microchips inside them - they were built like that at Hanover.

S813 FVK



6,030
04 Nov 2017, 8:58 pm #42
(04 Nov 2017, 6:12 pm)citaro5284 They have different microchips inside them - they were built like that at Hanover.

That's a shame - I don't think they look that great but they still do the job.
S813 FVK
04 Nov 2017, 8:58 pm #42

(04 Nov 2017, 6:12 pm)citaro5284 They have different microchips inside them - they were built like that at Hanover.

That's a shame - I don't think they look that great but they still do the job.

XUP254F



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05 Nov 2017, 12:02 pm #43
Does anyone know if there is any interworking between the 40 & 40A Durham Cathedral bus ? I am thinking of the arrivals at the Cathedral at xx51 (40A) & xx59 (40) with deps at xx00 (40) & xx03 (40A).
Thanks.
XUP254F
05 Nov 2017, 12:02 pm #43

Does anyone know if there is any interworking between the 40 & 40A Durham Cathedral bus ? I am thinking of the arrivals at the Cathedral at xx51 (40A) & xx59 (40) with deps at xx00 (40) & xx03 (40A).
Thanks.

05 Nov 2017, 12:12 pm #44
(05 Nov 2017, 12:02 pm)XUP254F Does anyone know if there is any interworking between the 40 & 40A Durham Cathedral bus ? I am thinking of the arrivals at the Cathedral at xx51 (40A) & xx59 (40) with deps at xx00 (40) & xx03 (40A).
Thanks.

It appears to do so as 708 was on the 40 and 40A yesterday as I got a photo of it on the 40A and a photo was posted on Facebook of it on the 40


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TEN 6083
05 Nov 2017, 12:12 pm #44

(05 Nov 2017, 12:02 pm)XUP254F Does anyone know if there is any interworking between the 40 & 40A Durham Cathedral bus ? I am thinking of the arrivals at the Cathedral at xx51 (40A) & xx59 (40) with deps at xx00 (40) & xx03 (40A).
Thanks.

It appears to do so as 708 was on the 40 and 40A yesterday as I got a photo of it on the 40A and a photo was posted on Facebook of it on the 40


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XUP254F



54
05 Nov 2017, 12:43 pm #45
Quote:It appears to do so as 708 was on the 40 and 40A yesterday as I got a photo of it on the 40A and a photo was posted on Facebook of it on the 40


Thanks for the reply.
XUP254F
05 Nov 2017, 12:43 pm #45

Quote:It appears to do so as 708 was on the 40 and 40A yesterday as I got a photo of it on the 40A and a photo was posted on Facebook of it on the 40


Thanks for the reply.

S830OFT



1,395
05 Nov 2017, 1:05 pm #46
7098/7114 have been on Rail Replacement's.


S830OFT
05 Nov 2017, 1:05 pm #46

7098/7114 have been on Rail Replacement's.



05 Nov 2017, 1:38 pm #47
(05 Nov 2017, 1:05 pm)S830OFT 7098/7114 have been on Rail Replacement's.

7099 was too.

Also today, I saw on metro replacements:
3968, 3971, 6019, 6084 and 6099.
EL1TE
05 Nov 2017, 1:38 pm #47

(05 Nov 2017, 1:05 pm)S830OFT 7098/7114 have been on Rail Replacement's.

7099 was too.

Also today, I saw on metro replacements:
3968, 3971, 6019, 6084 and 6099.

S830OFT



1,395
05 Nov 2017, 2:50 pm #48
What routes are 3941/3942 allocated to at Washington?


S830OFT
05 Nov 2017, 2:50 pm #48

What routes are 3941/3942 allocated to at Washington?



Michael



19,141
05 Nov 2017, 2:52 pm #49
(05 Nov 2017, 2:50 pm)S830OFT What routes are 3941/3942 allocated to at Washington?

They have the spare role for the X1 at Washington.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
05 Nov 2017, 2:52 pm #49

(05 Nov 2017, 2:50 pm)S830OFT What routes are 3941/3942 allocated to at Washington?

They have the spare role for the X1 at Washington.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

S830OFT



1,395
05 Nov 2017, 3:33 pm #50
(05 Nov 2017, 2:52 pm)Michael They have the spare role for the X1 at Washington.

Hopefully they are as powerful as 3943, Also hope they pop up on the X88.
Edited 05 Nov 2017, 3:33 pm by S830OFT.


S830OFT
05 Nov 2017, 3:33 pm #50

(05 Nov 2017, 2:52 pm)Michael They have the spare role for the X1 at Washington.

Hopefully they are as powerful as 3943, Also hope they pop up on the X88.



05 Nov 2017, 3:36 pm #51
(05 Nov 2017, 3:33 pm)S830OFT Hopefully they are as powerful as 3943, Also hope they pop up on the X88.

3942 is on pits at washington
Citaro5326
05 Nov 2017, 3:36 pm #51

(05 Nov 2017, 3:33 pm)S830OFT Hopefully they are as powerful as 3943, Also hope they pop up on the X88.

3942 is on pits at washington

Michael



19,141
05 Nov 2017, 4:15 pm #52
When will 4899 be withdrawn?

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
05 Nov 2017, 4:15 pm #52

When will 4899 be withdrawn?


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

S830OFT



1,395
05 Nov 2017, 4:21 pm #53
(05 Nov 2017, 3:36 pm)Citaro5326 3942 is on pits at washington

Hopefully they get it into service soon!


S830OFT
05 Nov 2017, 4:21 pm #53

(05 Nov 2017, 3:36 pm)Citaro5326 3942 is on pits at washington

Hopefully they get it into service soon!



Malarkey



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05 Nov 2017, 4:29 pm #54
(05 Nov 2017, 4:15 pm)Michael When will 4899  be withdrawn?

More than likely once the remaining Tynedale Express Scanias have been repainted and transferred to Chester releasing an older Scania to Riverside.

With 5338 now away down Blackburn for refurbishment and 5337 to follow suit in the coming weeks, will they retain there existing seating type or will they get Civic V3's like the other Mercs in the fleet?
Edited 05 Nov 2017, 4:32 pm by Malarkey.
Malarkey
05 Nov 2017, 4:29 pm #54

(05 Nov 2017, 4:15 pm)Michael When will 4899  be withdrawn?

More than likely once the remaining Tynedale Express Scanias have been repainted and transferred to Chester releasing an older Scania to Riverside.

With 5338 now away down Blackburn for refurbishment and 5337 to follow suit in the coming weeks, will they retain there existing seating type or will they get Civic V3's like the other Mercs in the fleet?

park5354



406
05 Nov 2017, 4:35 pm #55
(05 Nov 2017, 4:29 pm)Malarkey More than likely once the remaining Tynedale Express Scanias have been repainted and transferred to Chester releasing an older Scania to Riverside.

With 5338 now away down Blackburn for refurbishment and 5337 to follow suit in the coming weeks, will they retain there existing seating type or will they get Civic V3's like the other Mercs in the fleet?

4899 should be gone, as 5201, 5202 & 5210 should replace 4898, 4899 & 4946, but sadly it is still on road.
park5354
05 Nov 2017, 4:35 pm #55

(05 Nov 2017, 4:29 pm)Malarkey More than likely once the remaining Tynedale Express Scanias have been repainted and transferred to Chester releasing an older Scania to Riverside.

With 5338 now away down Blackburn for refurbishment and 5337 to follow suit in the coming weeks, will they retain there existing seating type or will they get Civic V3's like the other Mercs in the fleet?

4899 should be gone, as 5201, 5202 & 5210 should replace 4898, 4899 & 4946, but sadly it is still on road.

Dan

Site Administrator

18,099
05 Nov 2017, 4:35 pm #56
(03 Nov 2017, 5:19 pm)park5354 Cheers, forgot about one.

Was there a 9103 ?

Like 9093, I suspect 9103 was missed due to Go North East having a bus in their fleet with this number previously (albeit historically as Northern, opposed to recently). Go North East tend to be much better at not re-using fleet numbers, compared to Arriva.

In the case of 9093, OK Motor Services bought a number of former London Transport ECW bodied Bristol LHs. OK Motor Services' fleet numbers historically tallied up with their registration marks.

The original 9093 (OJD 93R), former London Transport BL93, was re-registered as TAJ 295R in April 1991 and numbered 9295 as a result. Former London Transport BL88 (OJD 88R) was hence re-numbered and re-registered as 9093 (OJD 93R).

When Go-Ahead acquired the operations of OK Motor Services, this vehicle was also acquired, retaining the same fleet number until withdrawal.

[Image: 7543823352_0e52672f62.jpg]OJD93R (ex-OJD88R) in Bishop Auckland 08.10.92 by Brian H, on Flickr


(03 Nov 2017, 7:46 pm)Michael Can we use Go North East passes on the 40/40A/40B?

No, unfortunately not. That's why there's nothing on Go North East's website about this service.


(04 Nov 2017, 10:04 am)Michael Has a Scania gone to Washington to replace 5338?, since that's gone for refurbishment.

No, not yet.


(05 Nov 2017, 1:38 pm)EL1TE 7099 was too.

Also today, I saw on metro replacements:
3968, 3971, 6019, 6084 and 6099.

The complete list of vehicles on Metro Replacement today is 3963, 3968, 3970, 3971, 5229, 6016, 6019, 6048, 6084, 6099 and 6100.

5229 was only used for one early morning trip.


(05 Nov 2017, 3:33 pm)S830OFT Hopefully they are as powerful as 3943, Also hope they pop up on the X88.

Should be on the X88 on Saturdays (like 6141/42 were).


(05 Nov 2017, 4:15 pm)Michael When will 4899 be withdrawn?

(05 Nov 2017, 4:35 pm)park5354 4899 should be gone, as 5201, 5202 & 5210 should replace 4898, 4899 & 4946, but sadly it is still on road.

On paper, once the Mercedes Citaro refurbishment programme is completed (so late January).

The transfer of 5201 and 5202 to Riverside has no bearing on the withdrawal of any further elderly Volvo B10BLE or Scania L94 from Riverside.

5210 replaced 4935 in Riverside's fleet - displacing this vehicle to become a float/reserve vehicle to cover for Mercedes Citaros away for refurbishment.
Dan
05 Nov 2017, 4:35 pm #56

(03 Nov 2017, 5:19 pm)park5354 Cheers, forgot about one.

Was there a 9103 ?

Like 9093, I suspect 9103 was missed due to Go North East having a bus in their fleet with this number previously (albeit historically as Northern, opposed to recently). Go North East tend to be much better at not re-using fleet numbers, compared to Arriva.

In the case of 9093, OK Motor Services bought a number of former London Transport ECW bodied Bristol LHs. OK Motor Services' fleet numbers historically tallied up with their registration marks.

The original 9093 (OJD 93R), former London Transport BL93, was re-registered as TAJ 295R in April 1991 and numbered 9295 as a result. Former London Transport BL88 (OJD 88R) was hence re-numbered and re-registered as 9093 (OJD 93R).

When Go-Ahead acquired the operations of OK Motor Services, this vehicle was also acquired, retaining the same fleet number until withdrawal.

[Image: 7543823352_0e52672f62.jpg]OJD93R (ex-OJD88R) in Bishop Auckland 08.10.92 by Brian H, on Flickr


(03 Nov 2017, 7:46 pm)Michael Can we use Go North East passes on the 40/40A/40B?

No, unfortunately not. That's why there's nothing on Go North East's website about this service.


(04 Nov 2017, 10:04 am)Michael Has a Scania gone to Washington to replace 5338?, since that's gone for refurbishment.

No, not yet.


(05 Nov 2017, 1:38 pm)EL1TE 7099 was too.

Also today, I saw on metro replacements:
3968, 3971, 6019, 6084 and 6099.

The complete list of vehicles on Metro Replacement today is 3963, 3968, 3970, 3971, 5229, 6016, 6019, 6048, 6084, 6099 and 6100.

5229 was only used for one early morning trip.


(05 Nov 2017, 3:33 pm)S830OFT Hopefully they are as powerful as 3943, Also hope they pop up on the X88.

Should be on the X88 on Saturdays (like 6141/42 were).


(05 Nov 2017, 4:15 pm)Michael When will 4899 be withdrawn?

(05 Nov 2017, 4:35 pm)park5354 4899 should be gone, as 5201, 5202 & 5210 should replace 4898, 4899 & 4946, but sadly it is still on road.

On paper, once the Mercedes Citaro refurbishment programme is completed (so late January).

The transfer of 5201 and 5202 to Riverside has no bearing on the withdrawal of any further elderly Volvo B10BLE or Scania L94 from Riverside.

5210 replaced 4935 in Riverside's fleet - displacing this vehicle to become a float/reserve vehicle to cover for Mercedes Citaros away for refurbishment.

Michael



19,141
05 Nov 2017, 4:35 pm #57
(05 Nov 2017, 4:29 pm)Malarkey More than likely once the remaining Tynedale Express Scanias have been repainted and transferred to Chester releasing an older Scania to Riverside.

With 5338 now away down Blackburn for refurbishment and 5337 to follow suit in the coming weeks, will they retain there existing seating type or will they get Civic V3's like the other Mercs in the fleet?


Civic V3 i would imagine, they're going to be better spec than the Connections 4 Citaro's, if they go back to Washington... But i don't think they will, same as 5324.
Edited 05 Nov 2017, 4:47 pm by Michael.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
05 Nov 2017, 4:35 pm #57

(05 Nov 2017, 4:29 pm)Malarkey More than likely once the remaining Tynedale Express Scanias have been repainted and transferred to Chester releasing an older Scania to Riverside.

With 5338 now away down Blackburn for refurbishment and 5337 to follow suit in the coming weeks, will they retain there existing seating type or will they get Civic V3's like the other Mercs in the fleet?


Civic V3 i would imagine, they're going to be better spec than the Connections 4 Citaro's, if they go back to Washington... But i don't think they will, same as 5324.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Michael



19,141
05 Nov 2017, 4:46 pm #58
(05 Nov 2017, 4:35 pm)Dan On paper, once the Mercedes Citaro refurbishment programme is completed (so late January).

The transfer of 5201 and 5202 to Riverside has no bearing on the withdrawal of any further elderly Volvo B10BLE or Scania L94 from Riverside.

5210 replaced 4935 in Riverside's fleet - displacing this vehicle to become a float/reserve vehicle to cover for Mercedes Citaros away for refurbishment.


Once all of the Citaro's are refurbished, will anything else in the fleet go for refurbishment?

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
05 Nov 2017, 4:46 pm #58

(05 Nov 2017, 4:35 pm)Dan On paper, once the Mercedes Citaro refurbishment programme is completed (so late January).

The transfer of 5201 and 5202 to Riverside has no bearing on the withdrawal of any further elderly Volvo B10BLE or Scania L94 from Riverside.

5210 replaced 4935 in Riverside's fleet - displacing this vehicle to become a float/reserve vehicle to cover for Mercedes Citaros away for refurbishment.


Once all of the Citaro's are refurbished, will anything else in the fleet go for refurbishment?


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Malarkey



6,060
05 Nov 2017, 4:52 pm #59
(05 Nov 2017, 4:46 pm)Michael Once all of the Citaro's are refurbished, will anything else in the fleet go for refurbishment?

Hopefully the Omnicities.
Malarkey
05 Nov 2017, 4:52 pm #59

(05 Nov 2017, 4:46 pm)Michael Once all of the Citaro's are refurbished, will anything else in the fleet go for refurbishment?

Hopefully the Omnicities.

Dan

Site Administrator

18,099
05 Nov 2017, 5:05 pm #60
(05 Nov 2017, 4:52 pm)Malarkey Hopefully the Omnicities.

I would have thought if there were plans to refurbish the OmniCitys, these would have been done before the younger Mercedes Citaros.

If anything, I think we'll just see Wi-Fi retrofitted to the examples which haven't yet had this work done already. It won't be too long before these buses are on "lesser" routes - they probably wouldn't justify the significant investment to undergo a full refurbishment.
Dan
05 Nov 2017, 5:05 pm #60

(05 Nov 2017, 4:52 pm)Malarkey Hopefully the Omnicities.

I would have thought if there were plans to refurbish the OmniCitys, these would have been done before the younger Mercedes Citaros.

If anything, I think we'll just see Wi-Fi retrofitted to the examples which haven't yet had this work done already. It won't be too long before these buses are on "lesser" routes - they probably wouldn't justify the significant investment to undergo a full refurbishment.

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