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Michael



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03 Dec 2017, 2:37 pm #41
Have any of the Prince Bishops vehicles, had the additional opening window installed yet?
Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
03 Dec 2017, 2:37 pm #41

Have any of the Prince Bishops vehicles, had the additional opening window installed yet?

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Dans_bus_photos



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03 Dec 2017, 2:38 pm #42
(03 Dec 2017, 10:39 am)S830OFT Silly question but what routes would you usually find the Riverside spare solars (4932, 33, 45)?

Theres nearly always at least 1 on the 88s due to them not having the pod on the roof allowing them to go under the low bridge on the route.
Dans_bus_photos
03 Dec 2017, 2:38 pm #42

(03 Dec 2017, 10:39 am)S830OFT Silly question but what routes would you usually find the Riverside spare solars (4932, 33, 45)?

Theres nearly always at least 1 on the 88s due to them not having the pod on the roof allowing them to go under the low bridge on the route.

S830OFT



1,395
03 Dec 2017, 4:57 pm #43
(03 Dec 2017, 2:38 pm)Dans_bus_photos Theres nearly always at least 1 on the 88s due to them not having the pod on the roof allowing them to go under the low bridge on the route.

Thanks, I managed to find 4932 on the 11/97 today. Still going strong


S830OFT
03 Dec 2017, 4:57 pm #43

(03 Dec 2017, 2:38 pm)Dans_bus_photos Theres nearly always at least 1 on the 88s due to them not having the pod on the roof allowing them to go under the low bridge on the route.

Thanks, I managed to find 4932 on the 11/97 today. Still going strong


Dan

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18,114
03 Dec 2017, 5:07 pm #44
(03 Dec 2017, 2:37 pm)Michael Have any of the Prince Bishops vehicles, had the additional opening window installed yet?

I think the majority have been done now: 5432/34/37 this week.
Dan
03 Dec 2017, 5:07 pm #44

(03 Dec 2017, 2:37 pm)Michael Have any of the Prince Bishops vehicles, had the additional opening window installed yet?

I think the majority have been done now: 5432/34/37 this week.

omnicity4659

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03 Dec 2017, 5:23 pm #45
(03 Dec 2017, 8:34 am)Dan To gather feedback (both from staff and customers)...

Not sure why Go North East, or any other operator, would go against something which has been proven in surveys to be popular with passengers?

Is there a source for the comment about passenger numbers falling due to a lack of information - with specific references to paper timetables and via points on destination displays? I'd be interested to read more into that.

According to Transport Focus (sources linked below), Go North East scored an 88% passenger satisfaction rating with regards to exterior route/destination information in 2016 (having been 87% the previous year). The marginal increase could relate to the continued investment into white LED displays and the decrease in the number of flipdot displays. Lothian Buses by comparison have a 90% satisfaction rate in this category - notably, they've been moving away from via points too. May be a coincidence, of course?
http://data.transportfocus.org.uk/bus/op...xus?wave=6&passenger_type=&sort_by=-satisfaction
http://data.transportfocus.org.uk/bus/op...an-buses-2

Clicked "report" instead of "reply", so sorry if the mods get a report. 

I personally struggled with the no via points on Lothian Buses, but there was always a TfE shop within walking distance, so I asked them for info, and gave me printed timetables and maps to assist my journeys. Obviously, there aren't any Go North East travel shops in major towns (bar Washington and MetroCentre), and then they're discontinuing the paper publicity too.

I struggle to use the Go North East app, and also find the Go North East website a fathom to work, resulting to using third party apps such as Google Maps, which I've found to convey outdated information at times...  

What I'd suggest is having the ultimate destination, with the terminal point underneath, switching to via Major Destination 1, via Major Destination 2 etc etc, similar to Arriva Durham County. I also find the fancy X blinds hard to read from a distance, which isn't ideal if I need to hail a certain bus.
omnicity4659
03 Dec 2017, 5:23 pm #45

(03 Dec 2017, 8:34 am)Dan To gather feedback (both from staff and customers)...

Not sure why Go North East, or any other operator, would go against something which has been proven in surveys to be popular with passengers?

Is there a source for the comment about passenger numbers falling due to a lack of information - with specific references to paper timetables and via points on destination displays? I'd be interested to read more into that.

According to Transport Focus (sources linked below), Go North East scored an 88% passenger satisfaction rating with regards to exterior route/destination information in 2016 (having been 87% the previous year). The marginal increase could relate to the continued investment into white LED displays and the decrease in the number of flipdot displays. Lothian Buses by comparison have a 90% satisfaction rate in this category - notably, they've been moving away from via points too. May be a coincidence, of course?
http://data.transportfocus.org.uk/bus/op...xus?wave=6&passenger_type=&sort_by=-satisfaction
http://data.transportfocus.org.uk/bus/op...an-buses-2

Clicked "report" instead of "reply", so sorry if the mods get a report. 

I personally struggled with the no via points on Lothian Buses, but there was always a TfE shop within walking distance, so I asked them for info, and gave me printed timetables and maps to assist my journeys. Obviously, there aren't any Go North East travel shops in major towns (bar Washington and MetroCentre), and then they're discontinuing the paper publicity too.

I struggle to use the Go North East app, and also find the Go North East website a fathom to work, resulting to using third party apps such as Google Maps, which I've found to convey outdated information at times...  

What I'd suggest is having the ultimate destination, with the terminal point underneath, switching to via Major Destination 1, via Major Destination 2 etc etc, similar to Arriva Durham County. I also find the fancy X blinds hard to read from a distance, which isn't ideal if I need to hail a certain bus.

S813 FVK



6,030
03 Dec 2017, 5:27 pm #46
(03 Dec 2017, 5:07 pm)Dan I think the majority have been done now: 5432/34/37 this week.

Is there a plan to do the Red Kites etc too and if so, what would the likelihood be of a Vyking transferring to Stanley to cover? Would still quite like to have a full journey on one without it breaking down.
S813 FVK
03 Dec 2017, 5:27 pm #46

(03 Dec 2017, 5:07 pm)Dan I think the majority have been done now: 5432/34/37 this week.

Is there a plan to do the Red Kites etc too and if so, what would the likelihood be of a Vyking transferring to Stanley to cover? Would still quite like to have a full journey on one without it breaking down.

Dan

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03 Dec 2017, 5:29 pm #47
(03 Dec 2017, 5:27 pm)S813 FVK Is there a plan to do the Red Kites etc too and if so, what would the likelihood be of a Vyking transferring to Stanley to cover? Would still quite like to have a full journey on one without it breaking down.

Others may be done in the future, but it's just the Prince Bishops ones being done for now.
Dan
03 Dec 2017, 5:29 pm #47

(03 Dec 2017, 5:27 pm)S813 FVK Is there a plan to do the Red Kites etc too and if so, what would the likelihood be of a Vyking transferring to Stanley to cover? Would still quite like to have a full journey on one without it breaking down.

Others may be done in the future, but it's just the Prince Bishops ones being done for now.

Citaro5326



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03 Dec 2017, 6:00 pm #48
More rumours about 26/27
5305-5309 for crusader people is saying, this would mean 5325-5332 on 35 and 5333-5338 for 9.
Citaro5326
03 Dec 2017, 6:00 pm #48

More rumours about 26/27
5305-5309 for crusader people is saying, this would mean 5325-5332 on 35 and 5333-5338 for 9.

citaro5284



3,232
03 Dec 2017, 6:02 pm #49
2 nights in a row:


Due to a number of vehicles being targeted by youths throwing missiles at Houghton, causing damage to our vehicles, we will not be serving Houghton Church and Newbottle Street, instead diverting via Hillside Way until further notice, many apologies
citaro5284
03 Dec 2017, 6:02 pm #49

2 nights in a row:


Due to a number of vehicles being targeted by youths throwing missiles at Houghton, causing damage to our vehicles, we will not be serving Houghton Church and Newbottle Street, instead diverting via Hillside Way until further notice, many apologies

S830OFT



1,395
03 Dec 2017, 6:13 pm #50
(03 Dec 2017, 6:02 pm)citaro5284 2 nights in a row:


Due to a number of vehicles being targeted by youths throwing missiles at Houghton, causing damage to our vehicles, we will not be serving Houghton Church and Newbottle Street, instead diverting via Hillside Way until further notice, many apologies

It's beyond a joke now!
Surely there should be a police presence there more often!


S830OFT
03 Dec 2017, 6:13 pm #50

(03 Dec 2017, 6:02 pm)citaro5284 2 nights in a row:


Due to a number of vehicles being targeted by youths throwing missiles at Houghton, causing damage to our vehicles, we will not be serving Houghton Church and Newbottle Street, instead diverting via Hillside Way until further notice, many apologies

It's beyond a joke now!
Surely there should be a police presence there more often!


Michael



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03 Dec 2017, 6:18 pm #51
(03 Dec 2017, 6:00 pm)Citaro5326 More rumours about 26/27
5305-5309 for crusader people is saying, this would mean 5325-5332 on 35 and 5333-5338 for 9.


Not sure if they would need 5 more buses on that route when changes take place?



More likely 1 or 2... which i would think would be 5323/24... then maybe 5305/06 become part of the 9 allocation 5307-5309 become spares at depots which will need extra spares along with 5337/38.... if my numbers is right (probables not).... also depends on what the new PVR of the 9 will be, they'll defiantly get Citaro's.
Edited 03 Dec 2017, 6:19 pm by Michael.
Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
03 Dec 2017, 6:18 pm #51

(03 Dec 2017, 6:00 pm)Citaro5326 More rumours about 26/27
5305-5309 for crusader people is saying, this would mean 5325-5332 on 35 and 5333-5338 for 9.


Not sure if they would need 5 more buses on that route when changes take place?



More likely 1 or 2... which i would think would be 5323/24... then maybe 5305/06 become part of the 9 allocation 5307-5309 become spares at depots which will need extra spares along with 5337/38.... if my numbers is right (probables not).... also depends on what the new PVR of the 9 will be, they'll defiantly get Citaro's.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

S813 FVK



6,030
03 Dec 2017, 6:25 pm #52
(03 Dec 2017, 6:18 pm)Michael Not sure if they would need 5 more buses on that route when changes take place?

More likely 1 or 2... which i would think would be 5323/24... then maybe 5305/06 become part of the 9 allocation 5307-5309 become spares at depots which will need extra spares along with 5337/38.... if my numbers is right (probables not).... also depends on what the new PVR of the 9 will be, they'll defiantly get Citaro's.

I'd say they would need at least 3 - 1 for the frequency increase to every 10 minutes between Newcastle and Jarrow and at least 2 more to cover the longer 26 between Jarrow and South Shields.
S813 FVK
03 Dec 2017, 6:25 pm #52

(03 Dec 2017, 6:18 pm)Michael Not sure if they would need 5 more buses on that route when changes take place?

More likely 1 or 2... which i would think would be 5323/24... then maybe 5305/06 become part of the 9 allocation 5307-5309 become spares at depots which will need extra spares along with 5337/38.... if my numbers is right (probables not).... also depends on what the new PVR of the 9 will be, they'll defiantly get Citaro's.

I'd say they would need at least 3 - 1 for the frequency increase to every 10 minutes between Newcastle and Jarrow and at least 2 more to cover the longer 26 between Jarrow and South Shields.

citaro5284



3,232
03 Dec 2017, 6:31 pm #53
(03 Dec 2017, 6:25 pm)S813 FVK I'd say they would need at least 3 - 1 for the frequency increase to every 10 minutes between Newcastle and Jarrow and at least 2 more to cover the longer 26 between Jarrow and South Shields.

I will go for 5 extra required.
citaro5284
03 Dec 2017, 6:31 pm #53

(03 Dec 2017, 6:25 pm)S813 FVK I'd say they would need at least 3 - 1 for the frequency increase to every 10 minutes between Newcastle and Jarrow and at least 2 more to cover the longer 26 between Jarrow and South Shields.

I will go for 5 extra required.

Citaro5326



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03 Dec 2017, 6:32 pm #54
(03 Dec 2017, 6:25 pm)S813 FVK I'd say they would need at least 3 - 1 for the frequency increase to every 10 minutes between Newcastle and Jarrow and at least 2 more to cover the longer 26 between Jarrow and South Shields.

I'd rather say now 5307-5322 for 26/27
5305/5306 spare
5323 & 5324 to deptford
5323-5330 on 35s
5331-5337 for 9
5338 spare
Some coaster omnicities to Washington to be spare for 4/5/50
Citaro5326
03 Dec 2017, 6:32 pm #54

(03 Dec 2017, 6:25 pm)S813 FVK I'd say they would need at least 3 - 1 for the frequency increase to every 10 minutes between Newcastle and Jarrow and at least 2 more to cover the longer 26 between Jarrow and South Shields.

I'd rather say now 5307-5322 for 26/27
5305/5306 spare
5323 & 5324 to deptford
5323-5330 on 35s
5331-5337 for 9
5338 spare
Some coaster omnicities to Washington to be spare for 4/5/50

cbma06



2,669
03 Dec 2017, 6:42 pm #55
(03 Dec 2017, 6:32 pm)Citaro5326 I'd rather say now 5307-5322 for 26/27
5305/5306 spare
5323 & 5324 to deptford
5323-5330 on 35s
5331-5337 for 9
5338 spare
Some coaster omnicities to Washington to be spare for 4/5/50


I thought the 5 is transferring over to Percy main depot?.


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cbma06
03 Dec 2017, 6:42 pm #55

(03 Dec 2017, 6:32 pm)Citaro5326 I'd rather say now 5307-5322 for 26/27
5305/5306 spare
5323 & 5324 to deptford
5323-5330 on 35s
5331-5337 for 9
5338 spare
Some coaster omnicities to Washington to be spare for 4/5/50


I thought the 5 is transferring over to Percy main depot?.


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Michael



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03 Dec 2017, 6:43 pm #56
(03 Dec 2017, 6:32 pm)Citaro5326 I'd rather say now 5307-5322 for 26/27
5305/5306 spare
5323 & 5324 to deptford
5323-5330 on 35s
5331-5337 for 9
5338 spare
Some coaster omnicities to Washington to be spare for 4/5/50

Does anyknow the new PVR for the 9, if so what will it be?
(03 Dec 2017, 6:31 pm)citaro5284 I will go for 5 extra required.

Didn't expect it to be such a massive increase...
Edited 03 Dec 2017, 6:44 pm by Michael.
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Michael
03 Dec 2017, 6:43 pm #56

(03 Dec 2017, 6:32 pm)Citaro5326 I'd rather say now 5307-5322 for 26/27
5305/5306 spare
5323 & 5324 to deptford
5323-5330 on 35s
5331-5337 for 9
5338 spare
Some coaster omnicities to Washington to be spare for 4/5/50

Does anyknow the new PVR for the 9, if so what will it be?
(03 Dec 2017, 6:31 pm)citaro5284 I will go for 5 extra required.

Didn't expect it to be such a massive increase...

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

citaro5284



3,232
03 Dec 2017, 6:54 pm #57
(03 Dec 2017, 6:42 pm)cbma06 I thought the 5 is transferring over to Percy main depot?.


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No, still operating from Washington
citaro5284
03 Dec 2017, 6:54 pm #57

(03 Dec 2017, 6:42 pm)cbma06 I thought the 5 is transferring over to Percy main depot?.


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No, still operating from Washington

JP6004



1,833
03 Dec 2017, 6:58 pm #58
(03 Dec 2017, 6:32 pm)Citaro5326 I'd rather say now 5307-5322 for 26/27
5305/5306 spare
5323 & 5324 to deptford
5323-5330 on 35s
5331-5337 for 9
5338 spare
Some coaster omnicities to Washington to be spare for 4/5/50

Maybe the south tyne versa for the 35...
JP6004
03 Dec 2017, 6:58 pm #58

(03 Dec 2017, 6:32 pm)Citaro5326 I'd rather say now 5307-5322 for 26/27
5305/5306 spare
5323 & 5324 to deptford
5323-5330 on 35s
5331-5337 for 9
5338 spare
Some coaster omnicities to Washington to be spare for 4/5/50

Maybe the south tyne versa for the 35...

Michael



19,160
03 Dec 2017, 7:00 pm #59
(03 Dec 2017, 6:58 pm)JP6004 Maybe the south tyne versa for the 35...

Doubt it, when 5 are going on the 28/28A.
Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
03 Dec 2017, 7:00 pm #59

(03 Dec 2017, 6:58 pm)JP6004 Maybe the south tyne versa for the 35...

Doubt it, when 5 are going on the 28/28A.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

JP6004



1,833
03 Dec 2017, 7:03 pm #60
(03 Dec 2017, 7:00 pm)Michael Doubt it, when 5 are going on the 28/28A.

I didnt think it had been confirmed...
JP6004
03 Dec 2017, 7:03 pm #60

(03 Dec 2017, 7:00 pm)Michael Doubt it, when 5 are going on the 28/28A.

I didnt think it had been confirmed...

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