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Arriva North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2018

 
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Cock Robin



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06 Apr 2018, 3:09 pm #41
(05 Apr 2018, 1:14 pm)omnicity4659 MAX, for interurban express routes, buses new or refurbished with pleather seating, free WiFi. In 2016, USB chargers added to refurbished vehicles following national Arriva specification change. MAX vehicles have Arriva 2009 spec plastics and flooring. Summer 2014-January 2018. It is now a defunct brand.

Sapphire, for selected routes which have potential, buses new or refurbished with pleather seating, free WiFi, power sockets (3-pin/USB until 2016, USB 2016-present), next stop announcements, clockface timetables. Sapphire vehicles have bespoke plastics and flooring. End of 2013-present. "Sapphire" is now the local variation of "Arriva Premium"*.

Frequenta, for selected urban routes with a frequency of every 10 minutes or better. No set specification. 2015-2018. It is now a defunct brand.

Standard, all vehicles new or refurbished, free WiFi, USB charging, pleather seating. Arriva 2009 spec plastics and flooring. 2016-present.

*Arriva Premium is the Arriva Group product name for premium specification bus and coach services in the UK and Europe, divisions can rename the brand to suit local needs, hence Arriva Sapphire in the UK. Arriva Express and Arriva Frequent are the other products available.

As of now, no vehicles should be repainted in liveries other than Arriva Standard, Arriva Premium, Arriva Express, Arriva Frequent, Arriva Green or Arriva Driver Training. Special liveries, such as TfL Red or joint ventures such as Cross Pennine are exempt.

So as many different liveries as ever?!!

(05 Apr 2018, 8:03 pm)omnicity4659 [Image: a59e4693f9aea662f921dbe1718b81bc-jpeg.8026]


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Arriva North East: 4712 / YJ10DHF by

A wheel within a wheel??

(06 Apr 2018, 12:57 am)Multi21 *cough* 500 Group Running Day *Cough*

It's not a case of Arriva employees having rose tinted spectacles. It's common sense. I wouldn't expect any company from independents Scarlet Band, Stagecarriage or one of the  Proctors group all the way through to the national ones to willingly send out a vehicle Van,  Minibus, coach, Double decker, hell even a pushbike if it was leaking any type of fluid onto the road. Why...? What happens to the tyres of the vehicle following the bus that "got sent out because the fitters thought it would be okay",  Weeeeee BANG! To put It into family friendly terms.

I said it last time and I'll say it again. Arriva a multinational company will not risk its O License by sending out a defective bus. No bus is perfect however there is a line as to what is considered roadworthy and its something called a PG9. Google it you will get a document from Gov.Uk over 100 pages on defects that would deem a bus unroadworthy (Oil Leak is page 88 if you want to argue) It's an immediate prohibition which means if VOSA/DVSA see it on the road with it Knowingly, The bus gets impounded, The driver will be fined anywhere up to £5000 and risks penalty points on his LICENCE, Arriva will be up in front of the Traffic Commissioners in Leeds and they risk losing thier operators licence.

Next time think before you type needless slander ?

I refer you to what the driver said to 'Shrek'.
Edited 06 Apr 2018, 3:13 pm by Cock Robin.
Cock Robin
06 Apr 2018, 3:09 pm #41

(05 Apr 2018, 1:14 pm)omnicity4659 MAX, for interurban express routes, buses new or refurbished with pleather seating, free WiFi. In 2016, USB chargers added to refurbished vehicles following national Arriva specification change. MAX vehicles have Arriva 2009 spec plastics and flooring. Summer 2014-January 2018. It is now a defunct brand.

Sapphire, for selected routes which have potential, buses new or refurbished with pleather seating, free WiFi, power sockets (3-pin/USB until 2016, USB 2016-present), next stop announcements, clockface timetables. Sapphire vehicles have bespoke plastics and flooring. End of 2013-present. "Sapphire" is now the local variation of "Arriva Premium"*.

Frequenta, for selected urban routes with a frequency of every 10 minutes or better. No set specification. 2015-2018. It is now a defunct brand.

Standard, all vehicles new or refurbished, free WiFi, USB charging, pleather seating. Arriva 2009 spec plastics and flooring. 2016-present.

*Arriva Premium is the Arriva Group product name for premium specification bus and coach services in the UK and Europe, divisions can rename the brand to suit local needs, hence Arriva Sapphire in the UK. Arriva Express and Arriva Frequent are the other products available.

As of now, no vehicles should be repainted in liveries other than Arriva Standard, Arriva Premium, Arriva Express, Arriva Frequent, Arriva Green or Arriva Driver Training. Special liveries, such as TfL Red or joint ventures such as Cross Pennine are exempt.

So as many different liveries as ever?!!

(05 Apr 2018, 8:03 pm)omnicity4659 [Image: a59e4693f9aea662f921dbe1718b81bc-jpeg.8026]


[Image: 38471092484_474ff6ff41_c.jpg]
Arriva North East: 4712 / YJ10DHF by

A wheel within a wheel??

(06 Apr 2018, 12:57 am)Multi21 *cough* 500 Group Running Day *Cough*

It's not a case of Arriva employees having rose tinted spectacles. It's common sense. I wouldn't expect any company from independents Scarlet Band, Stagecarriage or one of the  Proctors group all the way through to the national ones to willingly send out a vehicle Van,  Minibus, coach, Double decker, hell even a pushbike if it was leaking any type of fluid onto the road. Why...? What happens to the tyres of the vehicle following the bus that "got sent out because the fitters thought it would be okay",  Weeeeee BANG! To put It into family friendly terms.

I said it last time and I'll say it again. Arriva a multinational company will not risk its O License by sending out a defective bus. No bus is perfect however there is a line as to what is considered roadworthy and its something called a PG9. Google it you will get a document from Gov.Uk over 100 pages on defects that would deem a bus unroadworthy (Oil Leak is page 88 if you want to argue) It's an immediate prohibition which means if VOSA/DVSA see it on the road with it Knowingly, The bus gets impounded, The driver will be fined anywhere up to £5000 and risks penalty points on his LICENCE, Arriva will be up in front of the Traffic Commissioners in Leeds and they risk losing thier operators licence.

Next time think before you type needless slander ?

I refer you to what the driver said to 'Shrek'.

upt50k



95
07 Apr 2018, 1:38 pm #42
(05 Apr 2018, 4:24 pm)Cock Robin I agree with you. Certain Arriva employees have rose tinted spectacles! The original poster didn't say anything about it being in a dangerous state but anyone that thinks buses aren't sent out with defects needs to give their head a shake.


Hate the new logo. Why use a capital A symbol and then spell Arriva with a small a?! Looks Like 'Aarriva'! Not keen on the new livery either. Doesn't look too bad when pristine (although still looks cheap) but soon shows the dirt.

I like both the new sapphire front colouring and the all over blue which is a good mid range blue  I just hope the repainting does not drag on for too long
upt50k
07 Apr 2018, 1:38 pm #42

(05 Apr 2018, 4:24 pm)Cock Robin I agree with you. Certain Arriva employees have rose tinted spectacles! The original poster didn't say anything about it being in a dangerous state but anyone that thinks buses aren't sent out with defects needs to give their head a shake.


Hate the new logo. Why use a capital A symbol and then spell Arriva with a small a?! Looks Like 'Aarriva'! Not keen on the new livery either. Doesn't look too bad when pristine (although still looks cheap) but soon shows the dirt.

I like both the new sapphire front colouring and the all over blue which is a good mid range blue  I just hope the repainting does not drag on for too long

07 Apr 2018, 4:02 pm #43
(06 Apr 2018, 3:09 pm)Cock Robin So as many different liveries as ever?!!


A wheel within a wheel??


I refer you to what the driver said to 'Shrek'.

Standardising the UK Bus' fleet liveries to just Green, Sapphire and Standard (excluding special liveries such as Cross Pennine and TfL) is a whole load less...  Rolleyes
omnicity4659
07 Apr 2018, 4:02 pm #43

(06 Apr 2018, 3:09 pm)Cock Robin So as many different liveries as ever?!!


A wheel within a wheel??


I refer you to what the driver said to 'Shrek'.

Standardising the UK Bus' fleet liveries to just Green, Sapphire and Standard (excluding special liveries such as Cross Pennine and TfL) is a whole load less...  Rolleyes

GNE6312



1,091
07 Apr 2018, 8:25 pm #44
(04 Apr 2018, 3:10 pm)OrangeArrow49 What is usually allocated to service 306 to Whitley Bay/Tynemouth? Does the 306 have Wi-Fi and next stop announcements? I'm hopefully getting the 306 to Silverlink on Monday having been advised it's better than Stagecoach's 22 and GNEs Cobalt Clipper services on here recently. At £2.50, it's cheaper one way than GNE. I'll be using a Day Rider other than a single on the 306, so it will be £6.50 rather than my usual £7.20 Day Rover.

The 306 does have wifi but not next stop announcements it also has usb sockets.
GNE6312
07 Apr 2018, 8:25 pm #44

(04 Apr 2018, 3:10 pm)OrangeArrow49 What is usually allocated to service 306 to Whitley Bay/Tynemouth? Does the 306 have Wi-Fi and next stop announcements? I'm hopefully getting the 306 to Silverlink on Monday having been advised it's better than Stagecoach's 22 and GNEs Cobalt Clipper services on here recently. At £2.50, it's cheaper one way than GNE. I'll be using a Day Rider other than a single on the 306, so it will be £6.50 rather than my usual £7.20 Day Rover.

The 306 does have wifi but not next stop announcements it also has usb sockets.

GNE6312



1,091
07 Apr 2018, 8:41 pm #45
7469 unfortunately must be due for withdrawal as it has been the centre of jokes by drivers involving beamish sutch as one at the start of the year when a driver told me and other passengers on the X7 which was 7469 that the bus might take you to beamish. And another today on the 16:37 X8 when the driver said the bus should have a sign saying 'please send me back to beamish'.
GNE6312
07 Apr 2018, 8:41 pm #45

7469 unfortunately must be due for withdrawal as it has been the centre of jokes by drivers involving beamish sutch as one at the start of the year when a driver told me and other passengers on the X7 which was 7469 that the bus might take you to beamish. And another today on the 16:37 X8 when the driver said the bus should have a sign saying 'please send me back to beamish'.

07 Apr 2018, 8:55 pm #46
(07 Apr 2018, 8:41 pm)GNE6312 7469 unfortunately must be due for withdrawal as it has been the centre of jokes by drivers involving beamish sutch as one at the start of the year when a driver told me and other passengers on the X7 which was 7469 that the bus might take you to beamish. And another today on the 16:37 X8 when the driver said the bus should have a sign saying 'please send me back to beamish'.

7469 is younger than me. Off to Beamish I go.  Dodgy Big Grin
omnicity4659
07 Apr 2018, 8:55 pm #46

(07 Apr 2018, 8:41 pm)GNE6312 7469 unfortunately must be due for withdrawal as it has been the centre of jokes by drivers involving beamish sutch as one at the start of the year when a driver told me and other passengers on the X7 which was 7469 that the bus might take you to beamish. And another today on the 16:37 X8 when the driver said the bus should have a sign saying 'please send me back to beamish'.

7469 is younger than me. Off to Beamish I go.  Dodgy Big Grin

mb134



4,131
08 Apr 2018, 4:06 am #47
(07 Apr 2018, 8:41 pm)GNE6312 7469 unfortunately must be due for withdrawal as it has been the centre of jokes by drivers involving beamish sutch as one at the start of the year when a driver told me and other passengers on the X7 which was 7469 that the bus might take you to beamish. And another today on the 16:37 X8 when the driver said the bus should have a sign saying 'please send me back to beamish'.

Was due to be withdrawn last year when the Ashington MMCs arrived and displaced 7501-9 to Jesmond.

Drivers will joke, but older vehicles in the fleet will always be subject to those. The fact it hasn't been withdrawn signals that its been providing dependable service without any major issues. 

They all had a refurbishment internally when they came up from London, are comfortable inside, and certainly don't give the impression that they're end of life (the same can be said of the B7TLs of a similar age), which is quite a way from what used to be the case. The ECW bodied Leylands being a prime example.
mb134
08 Apr 2018, 4:06 am #47

(07 Apr 2018, 8:41 pm)GNE6312 7469 unfortunately must be due for withdrawal as it has been the centre of jokes by drivers involving beamish sutch as one at the start of the year when a driver told me and other passengers on the X7 which was 7469 that the bus might take you to beamish. And another today on the 16:37 X8 when the driver said the bus should have a sign saying 'please send me back to beamish'.

Was due to be withdrawn last year when the Ashington MMCs arrived and displaced 7501-9 to Jesmond.

Drivers will joke, but older vehicles in the fleet will always be subject to those. The fact it hasn't been withdrawn signals that its been providing dependable service without any major issues. 

They all had a refurbishment internally when they came up from London, are comfortable inside, and certainly don't give the impression that they're end of life (the same can be said of the B7TLs of a similar age), which is quite a way from what used to be the case. The ECW bodied Leylands being a prime example.

GNE6312



1,091
08 Apr 2018, 5:08 am #48
(08 Apr 2018, 4:06 am)mb134 Was due to be withdrawn last year when the Ashington MMCs arrived and displaced 7501-9 to Jesmond.

Drivers will joke, but older vehicles in the fleet will always be subject to those. The fact it hasn't been withdrawn signals that its been providing dependable service without any major issues. 

They all had a refurbishment internally when they came up from London, are comfortable inside, and certainly don't give the impression that they're end of life (the same can be said of the B7TLs of a similar age), which is quite a way from what used to be the case. The ECW bodied Leylands being a prime example.

Hopefully it isn't the end of their life
GNE6312
08 Apr 2018, 5:08 am #48

(08 Apr 2018, 4:06 am)mb134 Was due to be withdrawn last year when the Ashington MMCs arrived and displaced 7501-9 to Jesmond.

Drivers will joke, but older vehicles in the fleet will always be subject to those. The fact it hasn't been withdrawn signals that its been providing dependable service without any major issues. 

They all had a refurbishment internally when they came up from London, are comfortable inside, and certainly don't give the impression that they're end of life (the same can be said of the B7TLs of a similar age), which is quite a way from what used to be the case. The ECW bodied Leylands being a prime example.

Hopefully it isn't the end of their life

08 Apr 2018, 7:12 pm #49
(07 Apr 2018, 8:25 pm)GNE6312 The 306 does have wifi but not next stop announcements it also has usb sockets.

Thanks. I will be getting the 306 tomorrow for the first time. I am not too confident as I have never used it before. I am going from Haymarket to Silverlink.
OrangeArrow49
08 Apr 2018, 7:12 pm #49

(07 Apr 2018, 8:25 pm)GNE6312 The 306 does have wifi but not next stop announcements it also has usb sockets.

Thanks. I will be getting the 306 tomorrow for the first time. I am not too confident as I have never used it before. I am going from Haymarket to Silverlink.

Cock Robin



2,778
09 Apr 2018, 12:18 pm #50
(07 Apr 2018, 4:02 pm)omnicity4659 Standardising the UK Bus' fleet liveries to just Green, Sapphire and Standard (excluding special liveries such as Cross Pennine and TfL) is a whole load less...  Rolleyes

"Arriva Standard, Arriva Premium, Arriva Express, Arriva Frequent, Arriva Green or Arriva Driver Training"
Cock Robin
09 Apr 2018, 12:18 pm #50

(07 Apr 2018, 4:02 pm)omnicity4659 Standardising the UK Bus' fleet liveries to just Green, Sapphire and Standard (excluding special liveries such as Cross Pennine and TfL) is a whole load less...  Rolleyes

"Arriva Standard, Arriva Premium, Arriva Express, Arriva Frequent, Arriva Green or Arriva Driver Training"

09 Apr 2018, 1:37 pm #51
Express and Frequent aren't being used by UK Bus anyway. They're just product brands available for any division of Arriva to use.
omnicity4659
09 Apr 2018, 1:37 pm #51

Express and Frequent aren't being used by UK Bus anyway. They're just product brands available for any division of Arriva to use.

JM03



505
10 Apr 2018, 3:48 pm #52
Has anymore Streetlites transferred to Jesmond seen another 23 branded Streetlite today?
JM03
10 Apr 2018, 3:48 pm #52

Has anymore Streetlites transferred to Jesmond seen another 23 branded Streetlite today?

Dan

Site Administrator

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10 Apr 2018, 4:01 pm #53
(10 Apr 2018, 3:48 pm)JM03 Has anymore Streetlites transferred to Jesmond seen another 23 branded Streetlite today?

1576 the latest to transfer, last week, I think.

1506 is the latest arrival at Durham, from Darlington.
Dan
10 Apr 2018, 4:01 pm #53

(10 Apr 2018, 3:48 pm)JM03 Has anymore Streetlites transferred to Jesmond seen another 23 branded Streetlite today?

1576 the latest to transfer, last week, I think.

1506 is the latest arrival at Durham, from Darlington.

Smarty93



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11 Apr 2018, 2:05 pm #54
1427 has transferred to Stockton, allowing 1510 to return to Darlington.
Smarty93
11 Apr 2018, 2:05 pm #54

1427 has transferred to Stockton, allowing 1510 to return to Darlington.

mb134



4,131
11 Apr 2018, 3:14 pm #55
(11 Apr 2018, 2:05 pm)Smarty93 1427 has transferred to Stockton, allowing 1510 to return to Darlington.

1510 was on the X66/7 today. Absolutely killed by econospeed mind.
mb134
11 Apr 2018, 3:14 pm #55

(11 Apr 2018, 2:05 pm)Smarty93 1427 has transferred to Stockton, allowing 1510 to return to Darlington.

1510 was on the X66/7 today. Absolutely killed by econospeed mind.

Kuyoyo



6,849
11 Apr 2018, 9:43 pm #56
(11 Apr 2018, 3:14 pm)mb134 1510 was on the X66/7 today. Absolutely killed by econospeed mind.

That’s how they were exchanged - 1427 arrived into Middlesbrough at 1145 on the X67 and was swapped over for 1510.
Kuyoyo
11 Apr 2018, 9:43 pm #56

(11 Apr 2018, 3:14 pm)mb134 1510 was on the X66/7 today. Absolutely killed by econospeed mind.

That’s how they were exchanged - 1427 arrived into Middlesbrough at 1145 on the X67 and was swapped over for 1510.

mb134



4,131
12 Apr 2018, 11:00 am #57
(11 Apr 2018, 9:43 pm)Kuyoyo That’s how they were exchanged - 1427 arrived into Middlesbrough at 1145 on the X67 and was swapped over for 1510.

That makes sense. I got it on the delayed X67 at 1235 (1245), couldn't really make up much time either.
mb134
12 Apr 2018, 11:00 am #57

(11 Apr 2018, 9:43 pm)Kuyoyo That’s how they were exchanged - 1427 arrived into Middlesbrough at 1145 on the X67 and was swapped over for 1510.

That makes sense. I got it on the delayed X67 at 1235 (1245), couldn't really make up much time either.

14 Apr 2018, 8:33 pm #58
2807,2808,2811,2814 Have all been transferred and repainted to Yorkshire Tiger.
NewcastleOne
14 Apr 2018, 8:33 pm #58

2807,2808,2811,2814 Have all been transferred and repainted to Yorkshire Tiger.

JM03



505
14 Apr 2018, 11:34 pm #59
What liery will the new X15 E400MMC come in?
JM03
14 Apr 2018, 11:34 pm #59

What liery will the new X15 E400MMC come in?

14 Apr 2018, 11:38 pm #60
(14 Apr 2018, 11:34 pm)JM03 What liery will the new X15 E400MMC come in?

Either sapphire on new Livery as MAX has been discontinued o
Stuartphin1639
14 Apr 2018, 11:38 pm #60

(14 Apr 2018, 11:34 pm)JM03 What liery will the new X15 E400MMC come in?

Either sapphire on new Livery as MAX has been discontinued o

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