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Jamie M

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24 May 2018, 3:07 pm #161
(24 May 2018, 2:59 pm)Dan Yes, but very pricey!
Makes sense, I thought the display would be the most expensive part due to the size of them, but I guess all they are is black plastic with a few LEDs stuck to them. Thanks for the info!

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Jamie M
24 May 2018, 3:07 pm #161

(24 May 2018, 2:59 pm)Dan Yes, but very pricey!
Makes sense, I thought the display would be the most expensive part due to the size of them, but I guess all they are is black plastic with a few LEDs stuck to them. Thanks for the info!

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24 May 2018, 3:12 pm #162
(24 May 2018, 3:07 pm)Jamie M Makes sense, I thought the display would be the most expensive part due to the size of them, but I guess all they are is black plastic with a few LEDs stuck to them. Thanks for the info!

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The displays are the most expensive. A brand new full set of displays, plus new controller, is around the £2,000 mark!
Dan
24 May 2018, 3:12 pm #162

(24 May 2018, 3:07 pm)Jamie M Makes sense, I thought the display would be the most expensive part due to the size of them, but I guess all they are is black plastic with a few LEDs stuck to them. Thanks for the info!

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The displays are the most expensive. A brand new full set of displays, plus new controller, is around the £2,000 mark!

Jamie M

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24 May 2018, 3:15 pm #163
(24 May 2018, 3:12 pm)Dan The displays are the most expensive. A brand new full set of displays, plus new controller, is around the £2,000 mark!
That's a fair amount like. Some of them must be worth close to the value of the bus when sent for scrapping.

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Jamie M
24 May 2018, 3:15 pm #163

(24 May 2018, 3:12 pm)Dan The displays are the most expensive. A brand new full set of displays, plus new controller, is around the £2,000 mark!
That's a fair amount like. Some of them must be worth close to the value of the bus when sent for scrapping.

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24 May 2018, 5:48 pm #164
(24 May 2018, 1:47 pm)Dan Not forgetting that there is a current "shortage" of minibuses - the Byker ASDA "free bus" contract is currently operating with a Solo instead of an MPD (meaning that Riverside are short of a spare minibus, with 4899 having taken the MPD's place until it is withdrawn tomorrow), service 18 is operating with Optare Versas opposed to Solos, and three boards on services X6/X7 are operating with Scania L94s opposed to Solos.


Yes - fleet numbers 715 - 717 had already been allocated to the three new Solos on delivery from Optare, with this batch of pre-owned Solos being allocated fleet numbers 718 and higher.

Are they still due for a June delivery? 

Will the 718+ batch finally withdraw 618/619?


Edit: 

Looking through the fleet list... looks like ex London presidents are also arriving in the fleet:


6901-6919 are all Gemini (19)

6920-6934 are all presidents (15) 

Omnidekka's are 6162-6179 (18)
Edited 24 May 2018, 5:55 pm by Michael.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
24 May 2018, 5:48 pm #164

(24 May 2018, 1:47 pm)Dan Not forgetting that there is a current "shortage" of minibuses - the Byker ASDA "free bus" contract is currently operating with a Solo instead of an MPD (meaning that Riverside are short of a spare minibus, with 4899 having taken the MPD's place until it is withdrawn tomorrow), service 18 is operating with Optare Versas opposed to Solos, and three boards on services X6/X7 are operating with Scania L94s opposed to Solos.


Yes - fleet numbers 715 - 717 had already been allocated to the three new Solos on delivery from Optare, with this batch of pre-owned Solos being allocated fleet numbers 718 and higher.

Are they still due for a June delivery? 

Will the 718+ batch finally withdraw 618/619?


Edit: 

Looking through the fleet list... looks like ex London presidents are also arriving in the fleet:


6901-6919 are all Gemini (19)

6920-6934 are all presidents (15) 

Omnidekka's are 6162-6179 (18)


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

GNE6312



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24 May 2018, 8:36 pm #165
Looks like only 1 gemini 2 left in gne red which is 6116. The rest are commemorative here is a list of forner gne red gemini 2s

6084 - new cooperative

6100 - daft as a brush

6117 - fulisers 50

Would have thought 6116 would get a new livery soon
GNE6312
24 May 2018, 8:36 pm #165

Looks like only 1 gemini 2 left in gne red which is 6116. The rest are commemorative here is a list of forner gne red gemini 2s

6084 - new cooperative

6100 - daft as a brush

6117 - fulisers 50

Would have thought 6116 would get a new livery soon

S813 FVK



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24 May 2018, 8:47 pm #166
(24 May 2018, 8:36 pm)GNE6312 Would have thought 6116 would get a new livery soon

It has already been confirmed that 6116 will become a Cobalt Clipper when the rest are repainted, hence why it hasn’t been repainted into the new fleet livery.
S813 FVK
24 May 2018, 8:47 pm #166

(24 May 2018, 8:36 pm)GNE6312 Would have thought 6116 would get a new livery soon

It has already been confirmed that 6116 will become a Cobalt Clipper when the rest are repainted, hence why it hasn’t been repainted into the new fleet livery.

24 May 2018, 10:48 pm #167
Just being mulling over the sort of contracts that will stretch the GNE fleet over the summer and I've come up with the following, have I missed any others out.

Tall Ships (Early July)
Sunderland Airshow (Late July / Early Aug)
Durham Cricket Park and Ride (Various Days over Summer)
Kynren at Bishop Auckland (Various Days over Summer)
Cruise Ship Arrivals (Various Days over Summer)
Metro Engineering Blockcade? (Not sure if there is one over the summer holidays or where it is, sure someone mentioned Heworth to South Shields)
Increased vehicle requirement for DFDS (Various Days over Summer)

Any others I might have missed, just trying to add up all the oppotunites I have to get the 69xx Geminis incase they don't stay.

Also just to add that 6920 - 6934 are actually ADL Presidents and are some of the last ones built with this body style.
Edited 25 May 2018, 12:45 am by Rapidsnap.

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Rapidsnap
24 May 2018, 10:48 pm #167

Just being mulling over the sort of contracts that will stretch the GNE fleet over the summer and I've come up with the following, have I missed any others out.

Tall Ships (Early July)
Sunderland Airshow (Late July / Early Aug)
Durham Cricket Park and Ride (Various Days over Summer)
Kynren at Bishop Auckland (Various Days over Summer)
Cruise Ship Arrivals (Various Days over Summer)
Metro Engineering Blockcade? (Not sure if there is one over the summer holidays or where it is, sure someone mentioned Heworth to South Shields)
Increased vehicle requirement for DFDS (Various Days over Summer)

Any others I might have missed, just trying to add up all the oppotunites I have to get the 69xx Geminis incase they don't stay.

Also just to add that 6920 - 6934 are actually ADL Presidents and are some of the last ones built with this body style.


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LeeCalder



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25 May 2018, 5:46 am #168
(24 May 2018, 1:04 pm)Jamie M Moving swiftly on, currently on a few routes and buses are the new displays present at Stanley.
- 5451 & 62 plate B9TLs on X31, X30, X70, X71, 6, 6A and Short M6 to Crookgate only
- Most buses for short M6 to crookgate only (for Sunday and 2 evening runs)

When are the rest of them planned to be migrated over for all routes?
When is Stanley also going to be following the shift-oriented boards for drivers, rather than the old bus boards? I believe Stanley's now the only depot that operates in this format.

I would assume there is a reason they're still operating in that format. Probably a union agreement of some form.
LeeCalder
25 May 2018, 5:46 am #168

(24 May 2018, 1:04 pm)Jamie M Moving swiftly on, currently on a few routes and buses are the new displays present at Stanley.
- 5451 & 62 plate B9TLs on X31, X30, X70, X71, 6, 6A and Short M6 to Crookgate only
- Most buses for short M6 to crookgate only (for Sunday and 2 evening runs)

When are the rest of them planned to be migrated over for all routes?
When is Stanley also going to be following the shift-oriented boards for drivers, rather than the old bus boards? I believe Stanley's now the only depot that operates in this format.

I would assume there is a reason they're still operating in that format. Probably a union agreement of some form.

Jamie M

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25 May 2018, 5:49 am #169
(25 May 2018, 5:46 am)LeeCalder I would assume there is a reason they're still operating in that format. Probably a union agreement of some form.
Union people don't really care about it, it makes life more confusing for most. Riverside has the same layout, but they just have a monitor inside to show which bus which shift which run etc.

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Jamie M
25 May 2018, 5:49 am #169

(25 May 2018, 5:46 am)LeeCalder I would assume there is a reason they're still operating in that format. Probably a union agreement of some form.
Union people don't really care about it, it makes life more confusing for most. Riverside has the same layout, but they just have a monitor inside to show which bus which shift which run etc.

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LeeCalder



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25 May 2018, 5:52 am #170
(25 May 2018, 5:49 am)Jamie M Union people don't really care about it, it makes life more confusing for most. Riverside has the same layout, but they just have a monitor inside to show which bus which shift which run etc.

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Union means that you can collectively meet and negotiate with management over any issues, so I would therefore assume that they would have an input on the matter if it ever arisen.

I can't imagine there being any other reason they are kept that way....
LeeCalder
25 May 2018, 5:52 am #170

(25 May 2018, 5:49 am)Jamie M Union people don't really care about it, it makes life more confusing for most. Riverside has the same layout, but they just have a monitor inside to show which bus which shift which run etc.

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Union means that you can collectively meet and negotiate with management over any issues, so I would therefore assume that they would have an input on the matter if it ever arisen.

I can't imagine there being any other reason they are kept that way....

GuyParkRoyal



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25 May 2018, 10:16 am #171
(23 May 2018, 9:18 pm)Jamie M Hope neebody is trying to travel to or from Pelaw tonight,  there's a short notice closure on the whole of the Heworth Interchange.

27: Hebburn, Mill Lane, A194, Leam Lane, Meresyde (Like Q2 onwards), Grange Cresent, High Lanes, High Heworth Lane, Heworth Interchange

(35A, X10), 4: (A184), Lingey Lane, Meresyde and as above.

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There is a Shuttle Bus serving the 27 route through Pelaw.

[Image: 42282272912_728cc16833_z.jpg]Go North East 713 / WK59 CWY. by Guy Park-Royal, on Flickr
GuyParkRoyal
25 May 2018, 10:16 am #171

(23 May 2018, 9:18 pm)Jamie M Hope neebody is trying to travel to or from Pelaw tonight,  there's a short notice closure on the whole of the Heworth Interchange.

27: Hebburn, Mill Lane, A194, Leam Lane, Meresyde (Like Q2 onwards), Grange Cresent, High Lanes, High Heworth Lane, Heworth Interchange

(35A, X10), 4: (A184), Lingey Lane, Meresyde and as above.

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There is a Shuttle Bus serving the 27 route through Pelaw.

[Image: 42282272912_728cc16833_z.jpg]Go North East 713 / WK59 CWY. by Guy Park-Royal, on Flickr

25 May 2018, 10:22 am #172
(25 May 2018, 5:46 am)LeeCalder I would assume there is a reason they're still operating in that format. Probably a union agreement of some form.


Only thing i can think of is because of the complex vehicle movements between Stanley depot and Stanley Bus Station or Consett Bus Station.
westy3738
25 May 2018, 10:22 am #172

(25 May 2018, 5:46 am)LeeCalder I would assume there is a reason they're still operating in that format. Probably a union agreement of some form.


Only thing i can think of is because of the complex vehicle movements between Stanley depot and Stanley Bus Station or Consett Bus Station.

Jamie M

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25 May 2018, 11:12 am #173
(25 May 2018, 10:22 am)westy3738 Only thing i can think of is because of the complex vehicle movements between Stanley depot and Stanley Bus Station or Consett Bus Station.
Riverside is the same situation on a night. Often 8 vehicles all different brands and one specific one has to be taken.

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Jamie M
25 May 2018, 11:12 am #173

(25 May 2018, 10:22 am)westy3738 Only thing i can think of is because of the complex vehicle movements between Stanley depot and Stanley Bus Station or Consett Bus Station.
Riverside is the same situation on a night. Often 8 vehicles all different brands and one specific one has to be taken.

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Andreos1



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25 May 2018, 1:30 pm #174
My option isnt even there.

Red-hewf

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'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
25 May 2018, 1:30 pm #174

My option isnt even there.

Red-hewf

https://twitter.com/gonortheast/status/9...84033?s=20


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

Jamie M

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25 May 2018, 1:32 pm #175
(25 May 2018, 1:30 pm)Andreos1 My option isnt even there.

Red-hewf

https://twitter.com/gonortheast/status/9...84033?s=20
I agree with your option, but more "Redyewf"

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Jamie M
25 May 2018, 1:32 pm #175

(25 May 2018, 1:30 pm)Andreos1 My option isnt even there.

Red-hewf

https://twitter.com/gonortheast/status/9...84033?s=20
I agree with your option, but more "Redyewf"

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25 May 2018, 5:05 pm #176
(25 May 2018, 11:12 am)Jamie M Riverside is the same situation on a night. Often 8 vehicles all different brands and one specific one has to be taken.

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Most of these are on part of the driver's duty where he has to take a specific car working to the depot. This is especially prevalent on a Sunday evening when no staff shuttle operates
westy3738
25 May 2018, 5:05 pm #176

(25 May 2018, 11:12 am)Jamie M Riverside is the same situation on a night. Often 8 vehicles all different brands and one specific one has to be taken.

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Most of these are on part of the driver's duty where he has to take a specific car working to the depot. This is especially prevalent on a Sunday evening when no staff shuttle operates

JM03



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25 May 2018, 6:53 pm #177
Edit: 

Looking through the fleet list... looks like ex London presidents are also arriving in the fleet:


6901-6919 are all Gemini (19)

6920-6934 are all presidents (15) 

Omnidekka's are 6162-6179 (18)
[/quote]
How many are going to percy main and which ones?
JM03
25 May 2018, 6:53 pm #177

Edit: 

Looking through the fleet list... looks like ex London presidents are also arriving in the fleet:


6901-6919 are all Gemini (19)

6920-6934 are all presidents (15) 

Omnidekka's are 6162-6179 (18)
[/quote]
How many are going to percy main and which ones?

26 May 2018, 9:36 am #178
The 69xx vehicles are just here for the summer at the moment and their allocations are expected to be fluid depending on when and where they are needed. Should GNE be successful in gaining more contracts then more than likely some of the Geminis will remain, I however expect the Presidents to move on after the summer.

As for the Omnidekka they be used wherever they are needed, prob displace the shorter examples to the Special Events fleet.

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Rapidsnap
26 May 2018, 9:36 am #178

The 69xx vehicles are just here for the summer at the moment and their allocations are expected to be fluid depending on when and where they are needed. Should GNE be successful in gaining more contracts then more than likely some of the Geminis will remain, I however expect the Presidents to move on after the summer.

As for the Omnidekka they be used wherever they are needed, prob displace the shorter examples to the Special Events fleet.


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Who needs heroes anyway? Villians have more fun.

Jamie M

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27 May 2018, 8:15 am #179
Does the 09:18 off K'worth 1A run off 08:48 Newcastle Arrive 309 on a Sunday?

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Jamie M
27 May 2018, 8:15 am #179

Does the 09:18 off K'worth 1A run off 08:48 Newcastle Arrive 309 on a Sunday?

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27 May 2018, 5:38 pm #180
(27 May 2018, 8:15 am)Jamie M Does the 09:18 off K'worth 1A run off 08:48 Newcastle Arrive 309 on a Sunday?

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I believe it does
Jordan2104
27 May 2018, 5:38 pm #180

(27 May 2018, 8:15 am)Jamie M Does the 09:18 off K'worth 1A run off 08:48 Newcastle Arrive 309 on a Sunday?

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I believe it does

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