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Jimbo



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21 Dec 2019, 9:58 am #821
(20 Dec 2019, 9:24 pm)2bagstew I understand that they only want to be become a daytime service provider, based around the Park & Ride service.
DCC have told me which services that they want to give up to become the leaner operator, however I’m not allowed to divulge.


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you are correct also their is other stuff going on which can't be talked about
Jimbo
21 Dec 2019, 9:58 am #821

(20 Dec 2019, 9:24 pm)2bagstew I understand that they only want to be become a daytime service provider, based around the Park & Ride service.
DCC have told me which services that they want to give up to become the leaner operator, however I’m not allowed to divulge.


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you are correct also their is other stuff going on which can't be talked about

Jimmi



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21 Dec 2019, 9:59 am #822
(20 Dec 2019, 11:37 pm)BusLoverMum I'm guessing they're hitting the same issue that eyms had with subsidised services no longer being viable for them.

Wonder if they don't have the funds to replace a considerable amount of the fleet as some of the Solo's are about to be over the 15 year age limit on DCC contracts (think there's 6 that need to be replaced in 2020 then 7* in 2021 plus MX56NME in 2022), it's a canny lot to replace in one go which won't be cheap.

* 3 pink Solos for 16 & S1 discounted from equation due to not needing to meet age restrictions.
Jimmi
21 Dec 2019, 9:59 am #822

(20 Dec 2019, 11:37 pm)BusLoverMum I'm guessing they're hitting the same issue that eyms had with subsidised services no longer being viable for them.

Wonder if they don't have the funds to replace a considerable amount of the fleet as some of the Solo's are about to be over the 15 year age limit on DCC contracts (think there's 6 that need to be replaced in 2020 then 7* in 2021 plus MX56NME in 2022), it's a canny lot to replace in one go which won't be cheap.

* 3 pink Solos for 16 & S1 discounted from equation due to not needing to meet age restrictions.

123456



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21 Dec 2019, 9:39 pm #823
They are being very presumptuous assuming they are going to win the park and ride back given its a tendered service. I think it's up for renewal soon unless scarlet band have won it already. be surprised as the service is a shambles under them. Buses are tatty and poor For their age, many of the drivers have no customer service skills and the service is now totally unreliable. About time for someone else to run it.
123456
21 Dec 2019, 9:39 pm #823

They are being very presumptuous assuming they are going to win the park and ride back given its a tendered service. I think it's up for renewal soon unless scarlet band have won it already. be surprised as the service is a shambles under them. Buses are tatty and poor For their age, many of the drivers have no customer service skills and the service is now totally unreliable. About time for someone else to run it.

busmanT



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21 Dec 2019, 10:37 pm #824
(21 Dec 2019, 9:39 pm)123456 They are being very presumptuous assuming they are going to win the park and ride back given its a tendered service. I think it's up for renewal soon unless scarlet band have won it already. be surprised as the service is a shambles under them. Buses are tatty  and poor For their age, many of the drivers have no customer service skills and the service is now totally unreliable. About  time for someone else to run it.
I'm almost certain that the Durham P&R contract was for 5 years, plus a 2 year extension. It started on 27th October 2014, so might not be up for renewal till October 2021.
busmanT
21 Dec 2019, 10:37 pm #824

(21 Dec 2019, 9:39 pm)123456 They are being very presumptuous assuming they are going to win the park and ride back given its a tendered service. I think it's up for renewal soon unless scarlet band have won it already. be surprised as the service is a shambles under them. Buses are tatty  and poor For their age, many of the drivers have no customer service skills and the service is now totally unreliable. About  time for someone else to run it.
I'm almost certain that the Durham P&R contract was for 5 years, plus a 2 year extension. It started on 27th October 2014, so might not be up for renewal till October 2021.

123456



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21 Dec 2019, 10:48 pm #825
It was a 1 year extension of both sides agreed.
123456
21 Dec 2019, 10:48 pm #825

It was a 1 year extension of both sides agreed.

Cock Robin



2,778
23 Dec 2019, 4:00 pm #826
Shame. Not sure about them putting all their eggs in one basket though, giving up other stuff. If they end up losing the Park and Ride they could end up with nothing left!
Cock Robin
23 Dec 2019, 4:00 pm #826

Shame. Not sure about them putting all their eggs in one basket though, giving up other stuff. If they end up losing the Park and Ride they could end up with nothing left!

Jimmi



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29 Dec 2019, 1:17 am #827
Cancellation now showing for service 58 on VOSA but I also found this whilst looking on there...

Registration number: PB1111930/37
Licence Number: PB1111930
Variation number: 0
Status: New
Service number.: 57X,
Service type: Normal Stopping
Start point: Hutton Henry
Finish point: Durham Bus Station
Via
Date received: 24 Dec 2019
Effective date: 05 Jan 2020
End date
Supported by subsidies?: Yes
Jimmi
29 Dec 2019, 1:17 am #827

Cancellation now showing for service 58 on VOSA but I also found this whilst looking on there...

Registration number: PB1111930/37
Licence Number: PB1111930
Variation number: 0
Status: New
Service number.: 57X,
Service type: Normal Stopping
Start point: Hutton Henry
Finish point: Durham Bus Station
Via
Date received: 24 Dec 2019
Effective date: 05 Jan 2020
End date
Supported by subsidies?: Yes

2bagstew



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29 Dec 2019, 9:33 am #828
(29 Dec 2019, 1:17 am)Jimmi Cancellation now showing for service 58 on VOSA but I also found this whilst looking on there...

Registration number: PB1111930/37
Licence Number: PB1111930
Variation number: 0
Status: New
Service number.: 57X,
Service type: Normal Stopping
Start point: Hutton Henry
Finish point: Durham Bus Station
Via
Date received: 24 Dec 2019
Effective date: 05 Jan 2020
End date
Supported by subsidies?: Yes


Yes it’s the replacement for the faster 58 extra bus that used start at Station Town for the college service.
SB will run it until Arriva have the capacity.


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2bagstew
29 Dec 2019, 9:33 am #828

(29 Dec 2019, 1:17 am)Jimmi Cancellation now showing for service 58 on VOSA but I also found this whilst looking on there...

Registration number: PB1111930/37
Licence Number: PB1111930
Variation number: 0
Status: New
Service number.: 57X,
Service type: Normal Stopping
Start point: Hutton Henry
Finish point: Durham Bus Station
Via
Date received: 24 Dec 2019
Effective date: 05 Jan 2020
End date
Supported by subsidies?: Yes


Yes it’s the replacement for the faster 58 extra bus that used start at Station Town for the college service.
SB will run it until Arriva have the capacity.


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Jimmi



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25 Jan 2020, 7:28 pm #829
Scarlet Band have acquired ex Go North East Solos 710-714, at least two of which are already in service still with Metrocentre Mini branding intact, former 711 / WK59CWW was on the 52 today: https://flic.kr/p/2ijQ6Wo
Jimmi
25 Jan 2020, 7:28 pm #829

Scarlet Band have acquired ex Go North East Solos 710-714, at least two of which are already in service still with Metrocentre Mini branding intact, former 711 / WK59CWW was on the 52 today: https://flic.kr/p/2ijQ6Wo

26 Jan 2020, 10:59 am #830
(25 Jan 2020, 7:28 pm)Jimmi Scarlet Band have acquired ex Go North East Solos 710-714, at least two of which are already in service still with Metrocentre Mini branding intact, former 711 / WK59CWW was on the 52 today: https://flic.kr/p/2ijQ6Wo
I wonder how many people will try and board with a GNE ticket, even though they've removed all GNE logos.

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streetdeckfan
26 Jan 2020, 10:59 am #830

(25 Jan 2020, 7:28 pm)Jimmi Scarlet Band have acquired ex Go North East Solos 710-714, at least two of which are already in service still with Metrocentre Mini branding intact, former 711 / WK59CWW was on the 52 today: https://flic.kr/p/2ijQ6Wo
I wonder how many people will try and board with a GNE ticket, even though they've removed all GNE logos.

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upt50k



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26 Jan 2020, 11:52 am #831
(26 Jan 2020, 10:59 am)streetdeckfan I wonder how many people will try and board with a GNE ticket, even though they've removed all GNE logos.

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One was in use on Service 88 on frid but it was too far away to get any detail
upt50k
26 Jan 2020, 11:52 am #831

(26 Jan 2020, 10:59 am)streetdeckfan I wonder how many people will try and board with a GNE ticket, even though they've removed all GNE logos.

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One was in use on Service 88 on frid but it was too far away to get any detail

Jimmi



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26 Jan 2020, 12:29 pm #832
(26 Jan 2020, 10:59 am)streetdeckfan I wonder how many people will try and board with a GNE ticket, even though they've removed all GNE logos.

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Shouldn't happen really although in this instance the odds may increase as a result of the bus displaying the wrong destination although I think this journey does actually run via Langley Park, it's actually the 52 to East Hedleyhope.
(26 Jan 2020, 11:52 am)upt50k One was in use on Service 88 on frid but it was too far away to get any detail
WK59CWU (former 710) was on the 52/725 on Friday.
Jimmi
26 Jan 2020, 12:29 pm #832

(26 Jan 2020, 10:59 am)streetdeckfan I wonder how many people will try and board with a GNE ticket, even though they've removed all GNE logos.

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Shouldn't happen really although in this instance the odds may increase as a result of the bus displaying the wrong destination although I think this journey does actually run via Langley Park, it's actually the 52 to East Hedleyhope.
(26 Jan 2020, 11:52 am)upt50k One was in use on Service 88 on frid but it was too far away to get any detail
WK59CWU (former 710) was on the 52/725 on Friday.

Adrian



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26 Jan 2020, 5:18 pm #833
(25 Jan 2020, 7:28 pm)Jimmi Scarlet Band have acquired ex Go North East Solos 710-714, at least two of which are already in service still with Metrocentre Mini branding intact, former 711 / WK59CWW was on the 52 today: https://flic.kr/p/2ijQ6Wo

Wow. That looks awful.

Are SB struggling for buses at the moment?

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Adrian
26 Jan 2020, 5:18 pm #833

(25 Jan 2020, 7:28 pm)Jimmi Scarlet Band have acquired ex Go North East Solos 710-714, at least two of which are already in service still with Metrocentre Mini branding intact, former 711 / WK59CWW was on the 52 today: https://flic.kr/p/2ijQ6Wo

Wow. That looks awful.

Are SB struggling for buses at the moment?


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2bagstew



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26 Jan 2020, 10:10 pm #834
(26 Jan 2020, 5:18 pm)Adrian Wow. That looks awful.

Are SB struggling for buses at the moment?


SB need to replace 7 buses to keep within the DCC age limit.
To make it easier the 58 was transferred to Arriva a month earlier than was anticipated.


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2bagstew
26 Jan 2020, 10:10 pm #834

(26 Jan 2020, 5:18 pm)Adrian Wow. That looks awful.

Are SB struggling for buses at the moment?


SB need to replace 7 buses to keep within the DCC age limit.
To make it easier the 58 was transferred to Arriva a month earlier than was anticipated.


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29 Jan 2020, 6:21 pm #835
[Image: 49460512811_20bfc935d8_c.jpg]Scarlet Band WK59 CWU by kieron mathews, on Flickr

Scarlet Band logo has been added to WK59 CWU
TEN 6083
29 Jan 2020, 6:21 pm #835

[Image: 49460512811_20bfc935d8_c.jpg]Scarlet Band WK59 CWU by kieron mathews, on Flickr

Scarlet Band logo has been added to WK59 CWU

Adrian



9,566
29 Jan 2020, 6:29 pm #836
(29 Jan 2020, 6:21 pm)TEN 6083 [Image: 49460512811_20bfc935d8_c.jpg]Scarlet Band WK59 CWU by kieron mathews, on Flickr

Scarlet Band logo has been added to WK59 CWU

Shame they haven't found a cloth for it too!

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Adrian
29 Jan 2020, 6:29 pm #836

(29 Jan 2020, 6:21 pm)TEN 6083 [Image: 49460512811_20bfc935d8_c.jpg]Scarlet Band WK59 CWU by kieron mathews, on Flickr

Scarlet Band logo has been added to WK59 CWU

Shame they haven't found a cloth for it too!


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Andreos1



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08 Feb 2020, 6:11 pm #837
(29 Jan 2020, 6:29 pm)Adrian Shame they haven't found a cloth for it too!

You seen the state of the X1 B9's? Awful.
Ditto the 128 I saw in Helmsley earlier. Caked in muck and not too dissimilar to these SB Solos.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
08 Feb 2020, 6:11 pm #837

(29 Jan 2020, 6:29 pm)Adrian Shame they haven't found a cloth for it too!

You seen the state of the X1 B9's? Awful.
Ditto the 128 I saw in Helmsley earlier. Caked in muck and not too dissimilar to these SB Solos.


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

GuyParkRoyal



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16 Mar 2020, 12:07 pm #838
Scarlet Band have been called to attend a Public Inquiry.

Public Inquiry (81339) to be held at Hillcrest House (Leeds), LS9 6NF, 386 Harehills Lane,
LEEDS, on 1 April 2020 commencing at 10:00
PB1111930 SN
SCARLET BAND BUS & COACH LTD
Director(s): GRAEME TORRANCE
WELFARE GARAGE, STATION ROAD, WEST CORNFORTH, FERRYHILL, DL17 9LA
S17 - Consideration of disciplinary action under Section 17 (The Public Passenger
Vehicles Act 1981)
S28 - Consideration of disciplinary action under Section 28 (The Transport Act 1985)

TM Public Inquiry (Case ID: 426356, Public Inquiry ID: 91465) for GRAEME HOPKINS
TORRANCE to be held at Hillcrest House (Leeds), LS9 6NF, 386 Harehills Lane, LEEDS,
on 1 April 2020 commencing at 10:00
Article 6 of Regulation (EC) No 1071/2009
Schedule 3
GuyParkRoyal
16 Mar 2020, 12:07 pm #838

Scarlet Band have been called to attend a Public Inquiry.

Public Inquiry (81339) to be held at Hillcrest House (Leeds), LS9 6NF, 386 Harehills Lane,
LEEDS, on 1 April 2020 commencing at 10:00
PB1111930 SN
SCARLET BAND BUS & COACH LTD
Director(s): GRAEME TORRANCE
WELFARE GARAGE, STATION ROAD, WEST CORNFORTH, FERRYHILL, DL17 9LA
S17 - Consideration of disciplinary action under Section 17 (The Public Passenger
Vehicles Act 1981)
S28 - Consideration of disciplinary action under Section 28 (The Transport Act 1985)

TM Public Inquiry (Case ID: 426356, Public Inquiry ID: 91465) for GRAEME HOPKINS
TORRANCE to be held at Hillcrest House (Leeds), LS9 6NF, 386 Harehills Lane, LEEDS,
on 1 April 2020 commencing at 10:00
Article 6 of Regulation (EC) No 1071/2009
Schedule 3

Dan

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04 May 2020, 9:26 am #839
Former Go North East Optare Solo WK59 CWX has now been treated to a partial repaint - photo below shared by Dylan Irving on the Busesnortheast Facebook group:

[Image: 95660313_658106398083768_425949402293600...e=5ED5E8CB]
Dan
04 May 2020, 9:26 am #839

Former Go North East Optare Solo WK59 CWX has now been treated to a partial repaint - photo below shared by Dylan Irving on the Busesnortheast Facebook group:

[Image: 95660313_658106398083768_425949402293600...e=5ED5E8CB]

09 May 2020, 6:25 pm #840
Seen one of the Durham council park and ride buses running a service at Quebec earlier (the route number was 3 digits?)
Arcticrossy92
09 May 2020, 6:25 pm #840

Seen one of the Durham council park and ride buses running a service at Quebec earlier (the route number was 3 digits?)

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