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S813 FVK



6,030
30 May 2019, 6:15 am #241

I’m not sure if ‘initial’ really does mean all 34 double decks.


Red Kite and Toon Link (which would also involve Riverside) being upgraded to full double deck, yes.
Durham diamond, no


S813 FVK
30 May 2019, 6:15 am #241

I’m not sure if ‘initial’ really does mean all 34 double decks.


Red Kite and Toon Link (which would also involve Riverside) being upgraded to full double deck, yes.
Durham diamond, no


30 May 2019, 10:23 am #242

(29 May 2019, 3:46 pm)JP6004 Maybe they evaluating for X21 as they don't seem to cope very well on the long route

I think the Streetdecks on the X21 cope fine for most of the journey, it's just the high speed parts that it struggles with, but to me that seems more like a gearbox issue rather than an engine issue, on the A1 it just screams for an extra gear


(30 May 2019, 2:16 am)Rapidsnap The Streetdeck is available in low height form as Oxford Bus Company has a fleet of them due to the low bridge at the Railway Station.

Here is a pair of them https://www.flickr.com/photos/gjm-photog...6306406476

That thing looks like they've just stuck the top of a Metrodecker onto a Streetdeck, it just looks wrong.

streetdeckfan
30 May 2019, 10:23 am #242

(29 May 2019, 3:46 pm)JP6004 Maybe they evaluating for X21 as they don't seem to cope very well on the long route

I think the Streetdecks on the X21 cope fine for most of the journey, it's just the high speed parts that it struggles with, but to me that seems more like a gearbox issue rather than an engine issue, on the A1 it just screams for an extra gear


(30 May 2019, 2:16 am)Rapidsnap The Streetdeck is available in low height form as Oxford Bus Company has a fleet of them due to the low bridge at the Railway Station.

Here is a pair of them https://www.flickr.com/photos/gjm-photog...6306406476

That thing looks like they've just stuck the top of a Metrodecker onto a Streetdeck, it just looks wrong.

30 May 2019, 10:37 am #243

(30 May 2019, 10:23 am)streetdeckfan

I think the Streetdecks on the X21 cope fine for most of the journey, it's just the high speed parts that it struggles with, but to me that seems more like a gearbox issue rather than an engine issue, on the A1 it just screams for an extra gear



That thing looks like they've just stuck the top of a Metrodecker onto a Streetdeck, it just looks wrong.



Believe that as part of the latest Steetdeck order, Wrightbus have agreed to a major re-work programme to the existing Streetdeck batches - which covers both mechanical upgrades and through the continued software upgrades that Go North East are already receiving. This gives the ordered 6cyl Streetdeck a bit more purpose in covering depots where needed.



RBZ5459 | flickr | THV

RBZ 5459
30 May 2019, 10:37 am #243

(30 May 2019, 10:23 am)streetdeckfan

I think the Streetdecks on the X21 cope fine for most of the journey, it's just the high speed parts that it struggles with, but to me that seems more like a gearbox issue rather than an engine issue, on the A1 it just screams for an extra gear



That thing looks like they've just stuck the top of a Metrodecker onto a Streetdeck, it just looks wrong.



Believe that as part of the latest Steetdeck order, Wrightbus have agreed to a major re-work programme to the existing Streetdeck batches - which covers both mechanical upgrades and through the continued software upgrades that Go North East are already receiving. This gives the ordered 6cyl Streetdeck a bit more purpose in covering depots where needed.



RBZ5459 | flickr | THV

30 May 2019, 11:37 am #244

(30 May 2019, 10:37 am)RBZ 5459


Believe that as part of the latest Steetdeck order, Wrightbus have agreed to a major re-work programme to the existing Streetdeck batches - which covers both mechanical upgrades and through the continued software upgrades that Go North East are already receiving. This gives the ordered 6cyl Streetdeck a bit more purpose in covering depots where needed.



I guess we'll just have to wait and see how much of an improvement the 6 cylinder will be, but for routes like the 21, the 4 cylinder seems (from a passenger's perspective anyway) more than up to the task.

I just think that the X21 would have been better suited to the 6 speed rather than the 4 speed, the B5TLs have a 4 cylinder with similar power but it doesn't seem to struggle at higher speeds. Although it sounds so much more unrefined than the Streetdecks even at the higher speeds even if it isn't screaming!

streetdeckfan
30 May 2019, 11:37 am #244

(30 May 2019, 10:37 am)RBZ 5459


Believe that as part of the latest Steetdeck order, Wrightbus have agreed to a major re-work programme to the existing Streetdeck batches - which covers both mechanical upgrades and through the continued software upgrades that Go North East are already receiving. This gives the ordered 6cyl Streetdeck a bit more purpose in covering depots where needed.



I guess we'll just have to wait and see how much of an improvement the 6 cylinder will be, but for routes like the 21, the 4 cylinder seems (from a passenger's perspective anyway) more than up to the task.

I just think that the X21 would have been better suited to the 6 speed rather than the 4 speed, the B5TLs have a 4 cylinder with similar power but it doesn't seem to struggle at higher speeds. Although it sounds so much more unrefined than the Streetdecks even at the higher speeds even if it isn't screaming!

L469 YVK



3,544
30 May 2019, 7:25 pm #245
Mentioning the Toon Links, have passenger numbers grown to a point where deckers need allocated?
L469 YVK
30 May 2019, 7:25 pm #245

Mentioning the Toon Links, have passenger numbers grown to a point where deckers need allocated?

Stanleyone

6358

451
30 May 2019, 7:43 pm #246

(30 May 2019, 7:25 pm)L469 YVK Mentioning the Toon Links, have passenger numbers grown to a point where deckers need allocated?


Peak times are good imo. But I think it’s down to wanting to grow numbers, I hope there’s changes to journey times. Like the route through white-le-head that very rarely picks anyone up. Would be canny if the service got to Lobley hill and then went non stop to Newcastle with passengers for Gateshead changing on to the 97 at Lobley Hill, won’t happen of course.

Stanleyone
30 May 2019, 7:43 pm #246

(30 May 2019, 7:25 pm)L469 YVK Mentioning the Toon Links, have passenger numbers grown to a point where deckers need allocated?


Peak times are good imo. But I think it’s down to wanting to grow numbers, I hope there’s changes to journey times. Like the route through white-le-head that very rarely picks anyone up. Would be canny if the service got to Lobley hill and then went non stop to Newcastle with passengers for Gateshead changing on to the 97 at Lobley Hill, won’t happen of course.

L469 YVK



3,544
30 May 2019, 8:28 pm #247

(30 May 2019, 7:43 pm)Stanleyone


Peak times are good imo. But I think it’s down to wanting to grow numbers, I hope there’s changes to journey times. Like the route through white-le-head that very rarely picks anyone up. Would be canny if the service got to Lobley hill and then went non stop to Newcastle with passengers for Gateshead changing on to the 97 at Lobley Hill, won’t happen of course.



So in terms of wanting to 'grow passenger numbers', we can take it that the 6/X30/X31/X70/X71 will be receiving an upgrade to deckers then?

L469 YVK
30 May 2019, 8:28 pm #247

(30 May 2019, 7:43 pm)Stanleyone


Peak times are good imo. But I think it’s down to wanting to grow numbers, I hope there’s changes to journey times. Like the route through white-le-head that very rarely picks anyone up. Would be canny if the service got to Lobley hill and then went non stop to Newcastle with passengers for Gateshead changing on to the 97 at Lobley Hill, won’t happen of course.



So in terms of wanting to 'grow passenger numbers', we can take it that the 6/X30/X31/X70/X71 will be receiving an upgrade to deckers then?

Stanleyone

6358

451
30 May 2019, 8:45 pm #248

(30 May 2019, 8:28 pm)L469 YVK


So in terms of wanting to 'grow passenger numbers', we can take it that the 6/X30/X31/X70/X71 will be receiving an upgrade to deckers then?



X30 I think we have gathered are to receive the E400s.


6 I really don’t know.


X31/X70/X71 if the X31 moves to Consett operation, which with some swapping of times of X30/X31, then the X31/X70/X71 could be operated together (X70-X31-X71) under the Xlines brand. But as for an upgrade, nothing mentioned internally, however sure it’s been said the 15 plate streetlites will leave Consett but not the 66 plate Diamonds (sadly).

Stanleyone
30 May 2019, 8:45 pm #248

(30 May 2019, 8:28 pm)L469 YVK


So in terms of wanting to 'grow passenger numbers', we can take it that the 6/X30/X31/X70/X71 will be receiving an upgrade to deckers then?



X30 I think we have gathered are to receive the E400s.


6 I really don’t know.


X31/X70/X71 if the X31 moves to Consett operation, which with some swapping of times of X30/X31, then the X31/X70/X71 could be operated together (X70-X31-X71) under the Xlines brand. But as for an upgrade, nothing mentioned internally, however sure it’s been said the 15 plate streetlites will leave Consett but not the 66 plate Diamonds (sadly).

L469 YVK



3,544
30 May 2019, 8:57 pm #249

(30 May 2019, 8:45 pm)Stanleyone


X30 I think we have gathered are to receive the E400s.


6 I really don’t know.


X31/X70/X71 if the X31 moves to Consett operation, which with some swapping of times of X30/X31, then the X31/X70/X71 could be operated together (X70-X31-X71) under the Xlines brand. But as for an upgrade, nothing mentioned internally, however sure it’s been said the 15 plate streetlites will leave Consett but not the 66 plate Diamonds (sadly).



So looking at the above, I take it the following could happen (taking into account the 3x ex PB StreetLites):

- 14x + 2x spare StreetDecks for Consett (45/46/47)

- 8x StreetLites for 58

- 5x StreetLites for Blaydon Racers

- 1x StreetLite Riverside spare

- 8x Versas (plus another sourced) for 93/94

- **8x Mercs for 6/X31 (when next batch of deckers are delivered allowing 6100 to become part of Cobalt & Coast PVR with older B9s acting as spares)**


**Not saying that 57 will get curtailed and not personally for or against such thing but if GNE are looking for extra vehicles and the opportunity to simplify the network & reduce PVR, then it could be a possibility.


Will 6118-21 remain with GNE or move to EYMS? If they stay with GNE, I can see them ending up on the 15/15A.

L469 YVK
30 May 2019, 8:57 pm #249

(30 May 2019, 8:45 pm)Stanleyone


X30 I think we have gathered are to receive the E400s.


6 I really don’t know.


X31/X70/X71 if the X31 moves to Consett operation, which with some swapping of times of X30/X31, then the X31/X70/X71 could be operated together (X70-X31-X71) under the Xlines brand. But as for an upgrade, nothing mentioned internally, however sure it’s been said the 15 plate streetlites will leave Consett but not the 66 plate Diamonds (sadly).



So looking at the above, I take it the following could happen (taking into account the 3x ex PB StreetLites):

- 14x + 2x spare StreetDecks for Consett (45/46/47)

- 8x StreetLites for 58

- 5x StreetLites for Blaydon Racers

- 1x StreetLite Riverside spare

- 8x Versas (plus another sourced) for 93/94

- **8x Mercs for 6/X31 (when next batch of deckers are delivered allowing 6100 to become part of Cobalt & Coast PVR with older B9s acting as spares)**


**Not saying that 57 will get curtailed and not personally for or against such thing but if GNE are looking for extra vehicles and the opportunity to simplify the network & reduce PVR, then it could be a possibility.


Will 6118-21 remain with GNE or move to EYMS? If they stay with GNE, I can see them ending up on the 15/15A.

Zimba



3
30 May 2019, 9:31 pm #250

I might be totally wrong but I've been browsing this forum for years but surely it would make sense for

6118-21 to go to Percy Main for the 1/1A
and
6 (I think) Streetlites for the 19 and anything else that uses full size singles - not sure how many would be needed.


Then send the Omnicity's to Riverside / Chester Le Street with the rest of them to see off the L94's there to keep them together.


The fact that the 19 hasn't been branded as part of the little coasters and the fact 5419 was there on Friday / Saturday (I got it on the 19 - not sure it's still there) would suggest there's plans for them to go there at some point plus it makes sense as it upgrades it to Euro 5 and stops the mixed allocation currently which can't be fully minibus because of it interworking with misc contracts.

Zimba
30 May 2019, 9:31 pm #250

I might be totally wrong but I've been browsing this forum for years but surely it would make sense for

6118-21 to go to Percy Main for the 1/1A
and
6 (I think) Streetlites for the 19 and anything else that uses full size singles - not sure how many would be needed.


Then send the Omnicity's to Riverside / Chester Le Street with the rest of them to see off the L94's there to keep them together.


The fact that the 19 hasn't been branded as part of the little coasters and the fact 5419 was there on Friday / Saturday (I got it on the 19 - not sure it's still there) would suggest there's plans for them to go there at some point plus it makes sense as it upgrades it to Euro 5 and stops the mixed allocation currently which can't be fully minibus because of it interworking with misc contracts.

30 May 2019, 10:32 pm #251

(30 May 2019, 9:31 pm)Zimba

I might be totally wrong but I've been browsing this forum for years but surely it would make sense for

6118-21 to go to Percy Main for the 1/1A
and
6 (I think) Streetlites for the 19 and anything else that uses full size singles - not sure how many would be needed.


Then send the Omnicity's to Riverside / Chester Le Street with the rest of them to see off the L94's there to keep them together.


The fact that the 19 hasn't been branded as part of the little coasters and the fact 5419 was there on Friday / Saturday (I got it on the 19 - not sure it's still there) would suggest there's plans for them to go there at some point plus it makes sense as it upgrades it to Euro 5 and stops the mixed allocation currently which can't be fully minibus because of it interworking with misc contracts.


Highly unlikely Streetlites will go on 19

NewcastleOne
30 May 2019, 10:32 pm #251

(30 May 2019, 9:31 pm)Zimba

I might be totally wrong but I've been browsing this forum for years but surely it would make sense for

6118-21 to go to Percy Main for the 1/1A
and
6 (I think) Streetlites for the 19 and anything else that uses full size singles - not sure how many would be needed.


Then send the Omnicity's to Riverside / Chester Le Street with the rest of them to see off the L94's there to keep them together.


The fact that the 19 hasn't been branded as part of the little coasters and the fact 5419 was there on Friday / Saturday (I got it on the 19 - not sure it's still there) would suggest there's plans for them to go there at some point plus it makes sense as it upgrades it to Euro 5 and stops the mixed allocation currently which can't be fully minibus because of it interworking with misc contracts.


Highly unlikely Streetlites will go on 19

BusLoverMum



5,276
31 May 2019, 7:46 pm #252

(30 May 2019, 7:43 pm)Stanleyone


Peak times are good imo. But I think it’s down to wanting to grow numbers, I hope there’s changes to journey times. Like the route through white-le-head that very rarely picks anyone up. Would be canny if the service got to Lobley hill and then went non stop to Newcastle with passengers for Gateshead changing on to the 97 at Lobley Hill, won’t happen of course.



It won't happen because people don't like changing bus in some random place that they don't know.

BusLoverMum
31 May 2019, 7:46 pm #252

(30 May 2019, 7:43 pm)Stanleyone


Peak times are good imo. But I think it’s down to wanting to grow numbers, I hope there’s changes to journey times. Like the route through white-le-head that very rarely picks anyone up. Would be canny if the service got to Lobley hill and then went non stop to Newcastle with passengers for Gateshead changing on to the 97 at Lobley Hill, won’t happen of course.



It won't happen because people don't like changing bus in some random place that they don't know.

JM03



505
01 Jun 2019, 10:34 pm #253

(30 May 2019, 10:32 pm)NewcastleOne

Highly unlikely Streetlites will go on 19


It will have to keep some full size singles though for peak times and miscellaneous ops (392,442,673,679 and 680 are operated by these) unless 19 is downgraded and more deckers end up at percy main.


NEW BUSES

3x Toon Link E400 for X30 (6180-82)

7x (taller) Toon Link E400s for X31/70/71 (6183-89)

14x (taller) E400 for Red Kites 45/6/7 (6190-6203)

3x (taller) E400 for 15 (6203-05)

3x E400 Spares at Consett (6206-08)

3x streetdeck Spare Streetdecks (2x for Crook relasing 6332 to CLS for code numbers, 1x to CLS)(6334-7)

11x E200 Connections 4 at Washington (Omni for backup)(5488-5498)


CASCADES-

637-39 TO Consett for Venture (plus 689)

722 to Deptford as Backup

5234-42,5267-74 to CLS for 28/A,34/A and 71 (Inc 1x backup)

5275-82,5293-97 to Green Arrow 97 (Remain at Riverside)

5358-5368 to Deptford for 35/A

5409-11 remain at Consett as backups for all routes.

5412-16 to Percy Main for 19 (1x backup)

5417-19 to Riverside with 5420,40/41 for Toon Link 6 (inc back up streetlites)

5481-84 to Deptford as backups for 9 and 35/A

5485-87 to Riverside Backup for all Merc Routes

6118-21 to Percy Main for 327

6149-58 to Riverside for 57 (inc 1x Backup)

6158-6161 to Percy Main as Back Up for 1/A,309/310 (allowing 6069 and 6100 to go into Coaster)

8294-8300,8319-8324 to Riverside for 33/A,64/95,93/94 (Inc 1 backup)


WITHDRAWING-

All GNE solars


This therefore keeps-

-all E400s at Consett

-1/1A all D/Deck buses

-all Versas at Riverside

-all omnicities between CLS and Washington

-X21 dedicated spares

-19,33/A,35/A,64/95 and 93/4 all get upgrades

-withdraw all solars.

Happy days for all involved


JM03
01 Jun 2019, 10:34 pm #253

(30 May 2019, 10:32 pm)NewcastleOne

Highly unlikely Streetlites will go on 19


It will have to keep some full size singles though for peak times and miscellaneous ops (392,442,673,679 and 680 are operated by these) unless 19 is downgraded and more deckers end up at percy main.


NEW BUSES

3x Toon Link E400 for X30 (6180-82)

7x (taller) Toon Link E400s for X31/70/71 (6183-89)

14x (taller) E400 for Red Kites 45/6/7 (6190-6203)

3x (taller) E400 for 15 (6203-05)

3x E400 Spares at Consett (6206-08)

3x streetdeck Spare Streetdecks (2x for Crook relasing 6332 to CLS for code numbers, 1x to CLS)(6334-7)

11x E200 Connections 4 at Washington (Omni for backup)(5488-5498)


CASCADES-

637-39 TO Consett for Venture (plus 689)

722 to Deptford as Backup

5234-42,5267-74 to CLS for 28/A,34/A and 71 (Inc 1x backup)

5275-82,5293-97 to Green Arrow 97 (Remain at Riverside)

5358-5368 to Deptford for 35/A

5409-11 remain at Consett as backups for all routes.

5412-16 to Percy Main for 19 (1x backup)

5417-19 to Riverside with 5420,40/41 for Toon Link 6 (inc back up streetlites)

5481-84 to Deptford as backups for 9 and 35/A

5485-87 to Riverside Backup for all Merc Routes

6118-21 to Percy Main for 327

6149-58 to Riverside for 57 (inc 1x Backup)

6158-6161 to Percy Main as Back Up for 1/A,309/310 (allowing 6069 and 6100 to go into Coaster)

8294-8300,8319-8324 to Riverside for 33/A,64/95,93/94 (Inc 1 backup)


WITHDRAWING-

All GNE solars


This therefore keeps-

-all E400s at Consett

-1/1A all D/Deck buses

-all Versas at Riverside

-all omnicities between CLS and Washington

-X21 dedicated spares

-19,33/A,35/A,64/95 and 93/4 all get upgrades

-withdraw all solars.

Happy days for all involved


Andreos1



14,155
02 Jun 2019, 8:24 am #254

(01 Jun 2019, 10:34 pm)JM03

It will have to keep some full size singles though for peak times and miscellaneous ops (392,442,673,679 and 680 are operated by these) unless 19 is downgraded and more deckers end up at percy main.


NEW BUSES

3x Toon Link E400 for X30 (6180-82)

7x (taller) Toon Link E400s for X31/70/71 (6183-89)

14x (taller) E400 for Red Kites 45/6/7 (6190-6203)

3x (taller) E400 for 15 (6203-05)

3x E400 Spares at Consett (6206-08)

3x streetdeck Spare Streetdecks (2x for Crook relasing 6332 to CLS for code numbers, 1x to CLS)(6334-7)

11x E200 Connections 4 at Washington (Omni for backup)(5488-5498)


CASCADES-

637-39 TO Consett for Venture (plus 689)

722 to Deptford as Backup

5234-42,5267-74 to CLS for 28/A,34/A and 71 (Inc 1x backup)

5275-82,5293-97 to Green Arrow 97 (Remain at Riverside)

5358-5368 to Deptford for 35/A

5409-11 remain at Consett as backups for all routes.

5412-16 to Percy Main for 19 (1x backup)

5417-19 to Riverside with 5420,40/41 for Toon Link 6 (inc back up streetlites)

5481-84 to Deptford as backups for 9 and 35/A

5485-87 to Riverside Backup for all Merc Routes

6118-21 to Percy Main for 327

6149-58 to Riverside for 57 (inc 1x Backup)

6158-6161 to Percy Main as Back Up for 1/A,309/310 (allowing 6069 and 6100 to go into Coaster)

8294-8300,8319-8324 to Riverside for 33/A,64/95,93/94 (Inc 1 backup)


WITHDRAWING-

All GNE solars


This therefore keeps-

-all E400s at Consett

-1/1A all D/Deck buses

-all Versas at Riverside

-all omnicities between CLS and Washington

-X21 dedicated spares

-19,33/A,35/A,64/95 and 93/4 all get upgrades

-withdraw all solars.

Happy days for all involved




From what I've seen of the 71 since the changes, even a Solo would be too big!

Omnis are overkill.


'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
02 Jun 2019, 8:24 am #254

(01 Jun 2019, 10:34 pm)JM03

It will have to keep some full size singles though for peak times and miscellaneous ops (392,442,673,679 and 680 are operated by these) unless 19 is downgraded and more deckers end up at percy main.


NEW BUSES

3x Toon Link E400 for X30 (6180-82)

7x (taller) Toon Link E400s for X31/70/71 (6183-89)

14x (taller) E400 for Red Kites 45/6/7 (6190-6203)

3x (taller) E400 for 15 (6203-05)

3x E400 Spares at Consett (6206-08)

3x streetdeck Spare Streetdecks (2x for Crook relasing 6332 to CLS for code numbers, 1x to CLS)(6334-7)

11x E200 Connections 4 at Washington (Omni for backup)(5488-5498)


CASCADES-

637-39 TO Consett for Venture (plus 689)

722 to Deptford as Backup

5234-42,5267-74 to CLS for 28/A,34/A and 71 (Inc 1x backup)

5275-82,5293-97 to Green Arrow 97 (Remain at Riverside)

5358-5368 to Deptford for 35/A

5409-11 remain at Consett as backups for all routes.

5412-16 to Percy Main for 19 (1x backup)

5417-19 to Riverside with 5420,40/41 for Toon Link 6 (inc back up streetlites)

5481-84 to Deptford as backups for 9 and 35/A

5485-87 to Riverside Backup for all Merc Routes

6118-21 to Percy Main for 327

6149-58 to Riverside for 57 (inc 1x Backup)

6158-6161 to Percy Main as Back Up for 1/A,309/310 (allowing 6069 and 6100 to go into Coaster)

8294-8300,8319-8324 to Riverside for 33/A,64/95,93/94 (Inc 1 backup)


WITHDRAWING-

All GNE solars


This therefore keeps-

-all E400s at Consett

-1/1A all D/Deck buses

-all Versas at Riverside

-all omnicities between CLS and Washington

-X21 dedicated spares

-19,33/A,35/A,64/95 and 93/4 all get upgrades

-withdraw all solars.

Happy days for all involved




From what I've seen of the 71 since the changes, even a Solo would be too big!

Omnis are overkill.


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

02 Jun 2019, 9:22 am #255

(01 Jun 2019, 10:34 pm)JM03

It will have to keep some full size singles though for peak times and miscellaneous ops (392,442,673,679 and 680 are operated by these) unless 19 is downgraded and more deckers end up at percy main.


NEW BUSES

3x Toon Link E400 for X30 (6180-82)

7x (taller) Toon Link E400s for X31/70/71 (6183-89)

14x (taller) E400 for Red Kites 45/6/7 (6190-6203)

3x (taller) E400 for 15 (6203-05)

3x E400 Spares at Consett (6206-08)

3x streetdeck Spare Streetdecks (2x for Crook relasing 6332 to CLS for code numbers, 1x to CLS)(6334-7)

11x E200 Connections 4 at Washington (Omni for backup)(5488-5498)


CASCADES-

637-39 TO Consett for Venture (plus 689)

722 to Deptford as Backup

5234-42,5267-74 to CLS for 28/A,34/A and 71 (Inc 1x backup)

5275-82,5293-97 to Green Arrow 97 (Remain at Riverside)

5358-5368 to Deptford for 35/A

5409-11 remain at Consett as backups for all routes.

5412-16 to Percy Main for 19 (1x backup)

5417-19 to Riverside with 5420,40/41 for Toon Link 6 (inc back up streetlites)

5481-84 to Deptford as backups for 9 and 35/A

5485-87 to Riverside Backup for all Merc Routes

6118-21 to Percy Main for 327

6149-58 to Riverside for 57 (inc 1x Backup)

6158-6161 to Percy Main as Back Up for 1/A,309/310 (allowing 6069 and 6100 to go into Coaster)

8294-8300,8319-8324 to Riverside for 33/A,64/95,93/94 (Inc 1 backup)


WITHDRAWING-

All GNE solars


This therefore keeps-

-all E400s at Consett

-1/1A all D/Deck buses

-all Versas at Riverside

-all omnicities between CLS and Washington

-X21 dedicated spares

-19,33/A,35/A,64/95 and 93/4 all get upgrades

-withdraw all solars.

Happy days for all involved



Once again I don’t think the Streetlites will go to PM although if a full size was to go the other way then possibly the E4 Citaros.

E200s are not for Washington as it is said they aren’t getting any new vehicles. I think someone has guessed the 97/97a to get them and with current 9076 trailing on it, it looks a possibility.

NewcastleOne
02 Jun 2019, 9:22 am #255

(01 Jun 2019, 10:34 pm)JM03

It will have to keep some full size singles though for peak times and miscellaneous ops (392,442,673,679 and 680 are operated by these) unless 19 is downgraded and more deckers end up at percy main.


NEW BUSES

3x Toon Link E400 for X30 (6180-82)

7x (taller) Toon Link E400s for X31/70/71 (6183-89)

14x (taller) E400 for Red Kites 45/6/7 (6190-6203)

3x (taller) E400 for 15 (6203-05)

3x E400 Spares at Consett (6206-08)

3x streetdeck Spare Streetdecks (2x for Crook relasing 6332 to CLS for code numbers, 1x to CLS)(6334-7)

11x E200 Connections 4 at Washington (Omni for backup)(5488-5498)


CASCADES-

637-39 TO Consett for Venture (plus 689)

722 to Deptford as Backup

5234-42,5267-74 to CLS for 28/A,34/A and 71 (Inc 1x backup)

5275-82,5293-97 to Green Arrow 97 (Remain at Riverside)

5358-5368 to Deptford for 35/A

5409-11 remain at Consett as backups for all routes.

5412-16 to Percy Main for 19 (1x backup)

5417-19 to Riverside with 5420,40/41 for Toon Link 6 (inc back up streetlites)

5481-84 to Deptford as backups for 9 and 35/A

5485-87 to Riverside Backup for all Merc Routes

6118-21 to Percy Main for 327

6149-58 to Riverside for 57 (inc 1x Backup)

6158-6161 to Percy Main as Back Up for 1/A,309/310 (allowing 6069 and 6100 to go into Coaster)

8294-8300,8319-8324 to Riverside for 33/A,64/95,93/94 (Inc 1 backup)


WITHDRAWING-

All GNE solars


This therefore keeps-

-all E400s at Consett

-1/1A all D/Deck buses

-all Versas at Riverside

-all omnicities between CLS and Washington

-X21 dedicated spares

-19,33/A,35/A,64/95 and 93/4 all get upgrades

-withdraw all solars.

Happy days for all involved



Once again I don’t think the Streetlites will go to PM although if a full size was to go the other way then possibly the E4 Citaros.

E200s are not for Washington as it is said they aren’t getting any new vehicles. I think someone has guessed the 97/97a to get them and with current 9076 trailing on it, it looks a possibility.

L469 YVK



3,544
07 Jun 2019, 7:59 pm #256

I've got a thought here. Could the 15x double decks on order (including the evaluation StreetDeck) not be to replace the B5TLs on the X9/X10 and also the StreetDecks on the Castles Express with a more reliable vehicle? This would then mean that either the 56 could be upgraded with a PVR of 13x + 1x spare (albeit a mixed fleet allocation) or 1x type could be coupled with newer examples (most likely 6301-07) with the other type going to another Go Ahead subsidiary.

L469 YVK
07 Jun 2019, 7:59 pm #256

I've got a thought here. Could the 15x double decks on order (including the evaluation StreetDeck) not be to replace the B5TLs on the X9/X10 and also the StreetDecks on the Castles Express with a more reliable vehicle? This would then mean that either the 56 could be upgraded with a PVR of 13x + 1x spare (albeit a mixed fleet allocation) or 1x type could be coupled with newer examples (most likely 6301-07) with the other type going to another Go Ahead subsidiary.

JP6004



1,833
07 Jun 2019, 8:40 pm #257

(07 Jun 2019, 7:59 pm)L469 YVK

I've got a thought here. Could the 15x double decks on order (including the evaluation StreetDeck) not be to replace the B5TLs on the X9/X10 and also the StreetDecks on the Castles Express with a more reliable vehicle? This would then mean that either the 56 could be upgraded with a PVR of 13x + 1x spare (albeit a mixed fleet allocation) or 1x type could be coupled with newer examples (most likely 6301-07) with the other type going to another Go Ahead subsidiary.



Why would GNE send 3yo dockers to another subsidiary when theres plenty deckers over 16yrs that need replacing.


Also the deckers on these routes are only 2 and 3 year old. Surely service like X1 or X70/X71 would benefit from new vehicles allowing a number of older deckers to be withdrawn

JP6004
07 Jun 2019, 8:40 pm #257

(07 Jun 2019, 7:59 pm)L469 YVK

I've got a thought here. Could the 15x double decks on order (including the evaluation StreetDeck) not be to replace the B5TLs on the X9/X10 and also the StreetDecks on the Castles Express with a more reliable vehicle? This would then mean that either the 56 could be upgraded with a PVR of 13x + 1x spare (albeit a mixed fleet allocation) or 1x type could be coupled with newer examples (most likely 6301-07) with the other type going to another Go Ahead subsidiary.



Why would GNE send 3yo dockers to another subsidiary when theres plenty deckers over 16yrs that need replacing.


Also the deckers on these routes are only 2 and 3 year old. Surely service like X1 or X70/X71 would benefit from new vehicles allowing a number of older deckers to be withdrawn

07 Jun 2019, 8:56 pm #258

(07 Jun 2019, 7:59 pm)L469 YVK

I've got a thought here. Could the 15x double decks on order (including the evaluation StreetDeck) not be to replace the B5TLs on the X9/X10 and also the StreetDecks on the Castles Express with a more reliable vehicle? This would then mean that either the 56 could be upgraded with a PVR of 13x + 1x spare (albeit a mixed fleet allocation) or 1x type could be coupled with newer examples (most likely 6301-07) with the other type going to another Go Ahead subsidiary.


Thought it was confirmed that X21 wasn’t getting new vehicles

NewcastleOne
07 Jun 2019, 8:56 pm #258

(07 Jun 2019, 7:59 pm)L469 YVK

I've got a thought here. Could the 15x double decks on order (including the evaluation StreetDeck) not be to replace the B5TLs on the X9/X10 and also the StreetDecks on the Castles Express with a more reliable vehicle? This would then mean that either the 56 could be upgraded with a PVR of 13x + 1x spare (albeit a mixed fleet allocation) or 1x type could be coupled with newer examples (most likely 6301-07) with the other type going to another Go Ahead subsidiary.


Thought it was confirmed that X21 wasn’t getting new vehicles

L469 YVK



3,544
08 Jun 2019, 9:29 am #259

(07 Jun 2019, 8:56 pm)NewcastleOne

Thought it was confirmed that X21 wasn’t getting new vehicles



Not at the moment maybe but what if the allocation of the 15x remaining deckers after the Red Kites hasn't been decided yet? Surely GNE will want to reduce the number of breakdowns & lost mileage on these routes by allocating a more suitable vehicle type.


- 8x new deckers for Castles Express

- 7x new deckers for X9 / X10

- 6301-07 & 6308-14 to Deptford for 56 (incl 1x spare)

- 6085-92 to Riverside for 6/X31

- 6093 to Riverside as spare

- 6094-98 to Hownsgill for X70/X71

- 6099 to Percy Main as additional spare

L469 YVK
08 Jun 2019, 9:29 am #259

(07 Jun 2019, 8:56 pm)NewcastleOne

Thought it was confirmed that X21 wasn’t getting new vehicles



Not at the moment maybe but what if the allocation of the 15x remaining deckers after the Red Kites hasn't been decided yet? Surely GNE will want to reduce the number of breakdowns & lost mileage on these routes by allocating a more suitable vehicle type.


- 8x new deckers for Castles Express

- 7x new deckers for X9 / X10

- 6301-07 & 6308-14 to Deptford for 56 (incl 1x spare)

- 6085-92 to Riverside for 6/X31

- 6093 to Riverside as spare

- 6094-98 to Hownsgill for X70/X71

- 6099 to Percy Main as additional spare

Jamie M

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08 Jun 2019, 1:33 pm #260

(08 Jun 2019, 9:29 am)L469 YVK


Not at the moment maybe but what if the allocation of the 15x remaining deckers after the Red Kites hasn't been decided yet? Surely GNE will want to reduce the number of breakdowns & lost mileage on these routes by allocating a more suitable vehicle type.


- 8x new deckers for Castles Express

- 7x new deckers for X9 / X10

- 6301-07 & 6308-14 to Deptford for 56 (incl 1x spare)

- 6085-92 to Riverside for 6/X31

- 6093 to Riverside as spare

- 6094-98 to Hownsgill for X70/X71

- 6099 to Percy Main as additional spare



I don't see there being a more suitable vehicle type to the X9 X10 that isn't a coach. The B5s do a good job most of the time, it's a shame that there's always one needing work, but I don't think you're going to solve that by replacing new double deckers with even newer ones.


I would say there's probably a similar story with the X21. It's one of those routes where you need bulletproof engines for day in - day out business. I'd say an increase in maintenance is the way forward, rather than spending countless thousands on new buses, which will inevitably end up like the current lot. Less spending on new stuff, more spent making the current lot more reliable.



Jamie M
08 Jun 2019, 1:33 pm #260

(08 Jun 2019, 9:29 am)L469 YVK


Not at the moment maybe but what if the allocation of the 15x remaining deckers after the Red Kites hasn't been decided yet? Surely GNE will want to reduce the number of breakdowns & lost mileage on these routes by allocating a more suitable vehicle type.


- 8x new deckers for Castles Express

- 7x new deckers for X9 / X10

- 6301-07 & 6308-14 to Deptford for 56 (incl 1x spare)

- 6085-92 to Riverside for 6/X31

- 6093 to Riverside as spare

- 6094-98 to Hownsgill for X70/X71

- 6099 to Percy Main as additional spare



I don't see there being a more suitable vehicle type to the X9 X10 that isn't a coach. The B5s do a good job most of the time, it's a shame that there's always one needing work, but I don't think you're going to solve that by replacing new double deckers with even newer ones.


I would say there's probably a similar story with the X21. It's one of those routes where you need bulletproof engines for day in - day out business. I'd say an increase in maintenance is the way forward, rather than spending countless thousands on new buses, which will inevitably end up like the current lot. Less spending on new stuff, more spent making the current lot more reliable.



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