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Jimmi



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26 Nov 2018, 8:23 pm #81
(26 Nov 2018, 8:01 pm)Malarkey Just going to put it out there, I used the 16:45 X24A this evening from Sunderland to Gateshead and I have to say compared to the X24 it was awful.

In terms of reliability the service shot straight away coming out of Sunderland where it hits peak traffic on Chester Road before turning left to along onto Durham Road, the routing around Doxford International is strange one by having it observe the stop outside of Greggs where all Sunderland bound services stop before having double back on it's self to come off the business park where again it hit traffic, note only 3 people got on this

Eventually after approximately 30 minutes on the service at this point we got onto the A19 and cruised down albeit running late, we then reached Heworth where the driver who was already running late then decided to go along Sunderland Road rather than straight down the bypass, the journey took 55 minutes in total for which felt like an eternity, gueninely think SNE need to go back to the drawing board in regards to a peak time service via Doxford International.

I did the 16:12 journey off Sunderland fairly recently and my experiences sort of echo the above however, we only picked up a few passengers who wanted to head along Chester Road, think only me and one other person did the full journey, around 5 or 6 got on at Doxford International on my journey.

I personally think whilst it is annoying that the journey time from Sunderland City Centre to Newcastle is longer, I personally think the X24A going to Doxford isn't a bad call, some have suggested the bulk of the X24 loadings tend to be people from Sunderland heading into Newcastle in the morning / early afternoon who then come back in the afternoon / evening, so surely it's better to be picking up a few fare paying customers at Doxford rather than running straight along Chester Road as normal and picking up pretty much nobody, although perhaps a few alterations could be made to speed it up slightly but still serve Doxford although I don't think there is much you can do there.
Jimmi
26 Nov 2018, 8:23 pm #81

(26 Nov 2018, 8:01 pm)Malarkey Just going to put it out there, I used the 16:45 X24A this evening from Sunderland to Gateshead and I have to say compared to the X24 it was awful.

In terms of reliability the service shot straight away coming out of Sunderland where it hits peak traffic on Chester Road before turning left to along onto Durham Road, the routing around Doxford International is strange one by having it observe the stop outside of Greggs where all Sunderland bound services stop before having double back on it's self to come off the business park where again it hit traffic, note only 3 people got on this

Eventually after approximately 30 minutes on the service at this point we got onto the A19 and cruised down albeit running late, we then reached Heworth where the driver who was already running late then decided to go along Sunderland Road rather than straight down the bypass, the journey took 55 minutes in total for which felt like an eternity, gueninely think SNE need to go back to the drawing board in regards to a peak time service via Doxford International.

I did the 16:12 journey off Sunderland fairly recently and my experiences sort of echo the above however, we only picked up a few passengers who wanted to head along Chester Road, think only me and one other person did the full journey, around 5 or 6 got on at Doxford International on my journey.

I personally think whilst it is annoying that the journey time from Sunderland City Centre to Newcastle is longer, I personally think the X24A going to Doxford isn't a bad call, some have suggested the bulk of the X24 loadings tend to be people from Sunderland heading into Newcastle in the morning / early afternoon who then come back in the afternoon / evening, so surely it's better to be picking up a few fare paying customers at Doxford rather than running straight along Chester Road as normal and picking up pretty much nobody, although perhaps a few alterations could be made to speed it up slightly but still serve Doxford although I don't think there is much you can do there.

Malarkey



6,063
26 Nov 2018, 8:54 pm #82
(26 Nov 2018, 8:23 pm)Jimmi I did the 16:12 journey off Sunderland fairly recently and my experiences sort of echo the above however, we only picked up a few passengers who wanted to head along Chester Road, think only me and one other person did the full journey, around 5 or 6 got on at Doxford International on my journey.

I personally think whilst it is annoying that the journey time from Sunderland City Centre to Newcastle is longer, I personally think the X24A going to Doxford isn't a bad call, some have suggested the bulk of the X24 loadings tend to be people from Sunderland heading into Newcastle in the morning / early afternoon who then come back in the afternoon / evening, so surely it's better to be picking up a few fare paying customers at Doxford rather than running straight along Chester Road as normal and picking up pretty much nobody, although perhaps a few alterations could be made to speed it up slightly but still serve Doxford although I don't think there is much you can do there.

I personally think it should depart Sunderland direct via Durham Road to Doxford International following the route of the Go North East X5 along with observing the same stops before going onto the A19 to Gateshead/Newcastle.
Malarkey
26 Nov 2018, 8:54 pm #82

(26 Nov 2018, 8:23 pm)Jimmi I did the 16:12 journey off Sunderland fairly recently and my experiences sort of echo the above however, we only picked up a few passengers who wanted to head along Chester Road, think only me and one other person did the full journey, around 5 or 6 got on at Doxford International on my journey.

I personally think whilst it is annoying that the journey time from Sunderland City Centre to Newcastle is longer, I personally think the X24A going to Doxford isn't a bad call, some have suggested the bulk of the X24 loadings tend to be people from Sunderland heading into Newcastle in the morning / early afternoon who then come back in the afternoon / evening, so surely it's better to be picking up a few fare paying customers at Doxford rather than running straight along Chester Road as normal and picking up pretty much nobody, although perhaps a few alterations could be made to speed it up slightly but still serve Doxford although I don't think there is much you can do there.

I personally think it should depart Sunderland direct via Durham Road to Doxford International following the route of the Go North East X5 along with observing the same stops before going onto the A19 to Gateshead/Newcastle.

glen1234



268
26 Nov 2018, 10:03 pm #83
Cumbria and north Lancashire bus operations pages p20 they could always give 2259 to slaryford for the 100 and some of 2146-24124 in the north east if this is true or is it rumour

22599 and no 24116 24124.
Edited 26 Nov 2018, 10:05 pm by glen1234.
glen1234
26 Nov 2018, 10:03 pm #83

Cumbria and north Lancashire bus operations pages p20 they could always give 2259 to slaryford for the 100 and some of 2146-24124 in the north east if this is true or is it rumour


22599 and no 24116 24124.

glen1234



268
26 Nov 2018, 10:59 pm #84
It was something I was reading that all it could been nothing.
glen1234
26 Nov 2018, 10:59 pm #84

It was something I was reading that all it could been nothing.

27 Nov 2018, 9:12 am #85
(26 Nov 2018, 10:03 pm)glen1234 Cumbria and north Lancashire bus operations pages p20 they could always give 2259 to slaryford for the 100 and some of 2146-24124 in the north east if this is true or is it rumour

22599 and no 24116 24124.

(26 Nov 2018, 10:59 pm)glen1234 It was something I was reading that all it could been nothing.

It was just a suggestion that was made by another member, Glen. However, those buses are not being released for cascade.
Edited 27 Nov 2018, 9:13 am by RBZ 5459.


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RBZ 5459
27 Nov 2018, 9:12 am #85

(26 Nov 2018, 10:03 pm)glen1234 Cumbria and north Lancashire bus operations pages p20 they could always give 2259 to slaryford for the 100 and some of 2146-24124 in the north east if this is true or is it rumour

22599 and no 24116 24124.

(26 Nov 2018, 10:59 pm)glen1234 It was something I was reading that all it could been nothing.

It was just a suggestion that was made by another member, Glen. However, those buses are not being released for cascade.



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glen1234



268
27 Nov 2018, 11:01 am #86
Thanks for info mate
glen1234
27 Nov 2018, 11:01 am #86

Thanks for info mate

S830OFT



1,395
27 Nov 2018, 4:57 pm #87
Which Stagecoach bus goes to James Cook Hospital?


S830OFT
27 Nov 2018, 4:57 pm #87

Which Stagecoach bus goes to James Cook Hospital?



glen1234



268
27 Nov 2018, 5:11 pm #88
No 10
glen1234
27 Nov 2018, 5:11 pm #88

No 10

S830OFT



1,395
27 Nov 2018, 8:02 pm #89
(27 Nov 2018, 5:11 pm)glen1234 No 10

Is it the 10 and 39 that go outside of it?
The only one I knew was Arriva 63 and the old X80 which is now withdrawn.


S830OFT
27 Nov 2018, 8:02 pm #89

(27 Nov 2018, 5:11 pm)glen1234 No 10

Is it the 10 and 39 that go outside of it?
The only one I knew was Arriva 63 and the old X80 which is now withdrawn.



beefcake



263
27 Nov 2018, 8:41 pm #90
It's just the 10 from Stagecoach that stops outside. Arriva have a few services that stop outside and I'm pretty sure the Stagecarriage X8 stops in the grounds now
beefcake
27 Nov 2018, 8:41 pm #90

It's just the 10 from Stagecoach that stops outside. Arriva have a few services that stop outside and I'm pretty sure the Stagecarriage X8 stops in the grounds now

makem1



55
27 Nov 2018, 9:32 pm #91
(26 Nov 2018, 8:54 pm)Malarkey I personally think it should depart Sunderland direct via Durham Road to Doxford International following the route of the Go North East X5 along with observing the same stops before going onto the A19 to Gateshead/Newcastle.

I think whoever dreamed up the x24a just looked at a map and thought that looks a good route, why the morning x24a is taken off Durham road with bus lane priorities and sent down Chester road beggars belief, every morning I see it stuck in massive traffic queue on springwell road, then stuck again on chester road, its like they dont want the service to work
makem1
27 Nov 2018, 9:32 pm #91

(26 Nov 2018, 8:54 pm)Malarkey I personally think it should depart Sunderland direct via Durham Road to Doxford International following the route of the Go North East X5 along with observing the same stops before going onto the A19 to Gateshead/Newcastle.

I think whoever dreamed up the x24a just looked at a map and thought that looks a good route, why the morning x24a is taken off Durham road with bus lane priorities and sent down Chester road beggars belief, every morning I see it stuck in massive traffic queue on springwell road, then stuck again on chester road, its like they dont want the service to work

28 Nov 2018, 7:04 am #92
(27 Nov 2018, 9:32 pm)makem1 I think whoever dreamed up the x24a just looked at a map and thought that looks a good route, why the morning x24a is taken off Durham road with bus lane priorities and sent down Chester road beggars belief, every morning I see it stuck in massive traffic queue on springwell road, then stuck again on chester road, its like they dont want the service to work

Maybe because the hospital is on Chester Road and they dont want to skip it out?
Dans_bus_photos
28 Nov 2018, 7:04 am #92

(27 Nov 2018, 9:32 pm)makem1 I think whoever dreamed up the x24a just looked at a map and thought that looks a good route, why the morning x24a is taken off Durham road with bus lane priorities and sent down Chester road beggars belief, every morning I see it stuck in massive traffic queue on springwell road, then stuck again on chester road, its like they dont want the service to work

Maybe because the hospital is on Chester Road and they dont want to skip it out?

Dan

Site Administrator

18,114
28 Nov 2018, 7:21 am #93
(28 Nov 2018, 7:04 am)Dans_bus_photos Maybe because the hospital is on Chester Road and they dont want to skip it out?

If this were the case; wouldn't you just turn left and head down to Barnes Park after serving the hospital, omitting The Wavendon where the traffic goes manic at peak-times?

You'd still be adding time on to serve the hospital and go round the Barnes gyratory system (compared to direct via Durham Road) but may possibly be better than sitting in unpredictable traffic at The Wavendon.

I used to live in the area but moved away a few years ago, and was always inconvenienced by the traffic when travelling by bus. Operators - Go North East certainly - added a lot of extra time into the timetable so those later in the route weren't inconvenienced (or the bus turned up 'on time' at least), but really this is the type of political thing that bus operators should be working with the council with to try and combat, rather than the operator going to the expense of adding extra time into the timetable to accommodate.

It's been a few years since I last experienced this area in peak times, but picked up a shift at Deptford on Friday evening gone and was amazed that it was still so bad at 17:00. The traffic had always died down by this point on a Friday in years gone by.
Dan
28 Nov 2018, 7:21 am #93

(28 Nov 2018, 7:04 am)Dans_bus_photos Maybe because the hospital is on Chester Road and they dont want to skip it out?

If this were the case; wouldn't you just turn left and head down to Barnes Park after serving the hospital, omitting The Wavendon where the traffic goes manic at peak-times?

You'd still be adding time on to serve the hospital and go round the Barnes gyratory system (compared to direct via Durham Road) but may possibly be better than sitting in unpredictable traffic at The Wavendon.

I used to live in the area but moved away a few years ago, and was always inconvenienced by the traffic when travelling by bus. Operators - Go North East certainly - added a lot of extra time into the timetable so those later in the route weren't inconvenienced (or the bus turned up 'on time' at least), but really this is the type of political thing that bus operators should be working with the council with to try and combat, rather than the operator going to the expense of adding extra time into the timetable to accommodate.

It's been a few years since I last experienced this area in peak times, but picked up a shift at Deptford on Friday evening gone and was amazed that it was still so bad at 17:00. The traffic had always died down by this point on a Friday in years gone by.

big mac



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28 Nov 2018, 9:39 am #94
The other bizarre thing about the x24a is the massive gap in service it creates on a weekday afternoon towards Newcastle at Chester Road past springwell Road where it turns off. There's a bus at 3.40pm then nothing until after 7.30 because of the diversion to serve Doxford
big mac
28 Nov 2018, 9:39 am #94

The other bizarre thing about the x24a is the massive gap in service it creates on a weekday afternoon towards Newcastle at Chester Road past springwell Road where it turns off. There's a bus at 3.40pm then nothing until after 7.30 because of the diversion to serve Doxford

Cock Robin



2,778
28 Nov 2018, 3:41 pm #95
(27 Nov 2018, 8:41 pm)beefcake It's just the 10 from Stagecoach that stops outside. Arriva have a few services that stop outside and I'm pretty sure the Stagecarriage X8 stops in the grounds now

That's correct.
Cock Robin
28 Nov 2018, 3:41 pm #95

(27 Nov 2018, 8:41 pm)beefcake It's just the 10 from Stagecoach that stops outside. Arriva have a few services that stop outside and I'm pretty sure the Stagecarriage X8 stops in the grounds now

That's correct.

Acky81



902
28 Nov 2018, 11:49 pm #96
Noticed tonight on a 12 from Doxford Park to Sunderland.
The destination board just stated 
12 City Centre In a unusual type format. Bus 28008 gas bus. Think services on Teesside are using this. Question is why? Are stagecoach copying go north east
Acky81
28 Nov 2018, 11:49 pm #96

Noticed tonight on a 12 from Doxford Park to Sunderland.
The destination board just stated 
12 City Centre In a unusual type format. Bus 28008 gas bus. Think services on Teesside are using this. Question is why? Are stagecoach copying go north east

Dan

Site Administrator

18,114
29 Nov 2018, 7:43 am #97
(28 Nov 2018, 11:49 pm)Acky81 Noticed tonight on a 12 from Doxford Park to Sunderland.
The destination board just stated 
12 City Centre In a unusual type format. Bus 28008 gas bus. Think services on Teesside are using this. Question is why? Are stagecoach copying go north east

I noticed a 10 which had 'Grangetown Alexandra' (or words to that effect) at the weekend, was also in the larger terminal font with a very small via point.
Dan
29 Nov 2018, 7:43 am #97

(28 Nov 2018, 11:49 pm)Acky81 Noticed tonight on a 12 from Doxford Park to Sunderland.
The destination board just stated 
12 City Centre In a unusual type format. Bus 28008 gas bus. Think services on Teesside are using this. Question is why? Are stagecoach copying go north east

I noticed a 10 which had 'Grangetown Alexandra' (or words to that effect) at the weekend, was also in the larger terminal font with a very small via point.

Kuyoyo



6,853
29 Nov 2018, 9:23 am #98
(28 Nov 2018, 11:49 pm)Acky81 Noticed tonight on a 12 from Doxford Park to Sunderland.
The destination board just stated 
12 City Centre In a unusual type format. Bus 28008 gas bus. Think services on Teesside are using this. Question is why? Are stagecoach copying go north east

They aren't copying Go North East - the style Stagecoach is using is the same as that used by the Cumbria and North Lancashire division.

(29 Nov 2018, 7:43 am)Dan I noticed a 10 which had 'Grangetown Alexandra' (or words to that effect) at the weekend, was also in the larger terminal font with a very small via point.

Been in use for a while in the Teesside/Hartlepool list - only initially on certain destinations (12 to Hemlington and Parkway Centre, 13 Middlesbrough and 1 Hartlepool Centre), it appears to have been rolled out properly to all services this week (noticed a 59 showing Stockton Castlegate Centre in the style on Tuesday morning and a 58 Hardwick last night).
Kuyoyo
29 Nov 2018, 9:23 am #98

(28 Nov 2018, 11:49 pm)Acky81 Noticed tonight on a 12 from Doxford Park to Sunderland.
The destination board just stated 
12 City Centre In a unusual type format. Bus 28008 gas bus. Think services on Teesside are using this. Question is why? Are stagecoach copying go north east

They aren't copying Go North East - the style Stagecoach is using is the same as that used by the Cumbria and North Lancashire division.

(29 Nov 2018, 7:43 am)Dan I noticed a 10 which had 'Grangetown Alexandra' (or words to that effect) at the weekend, was also in the larger terminal font with a very small via point.

Been in use for a while in the Teesside/Hartlepool list - only initially on certain destinations (12 to Hemlington and Parkway Centre, 13 Middlesbrough and 1 Hartlepool Centre), it appears to have been rolled out properly to all services this week (noticed a 59 showing Stockton Castlegate Centre in the style on Tuesday morning and a 58 Hardwick last night).

29 Nov 2018, 10:46 am #99
(29 Nov 2018, 9:23 am)Kuyoyo They aren't copying Go North East - the style Stagecoach is using is the same as that used by the Cumbria and North Lancashire division.


Been in use for a while in the Teesside/Hartlepool list - only initially on certain destinations (12 to Hemlington and Parkway Centre, 13 Middlesbrough and 1 Hartlepool Centre), it appears to have been rolled out properly to all services this week (noticed a 59 showing Stockton Castlegate Centre in the style on Tuesday morning and a 58 Hardwick last night).

Indeed, the custom Cumbria & North Lancs fonts are proving to be popular choices of fonts........  
Stagecoach South, Wales and Yorkshire also in on the action too. 

Cumbria:
[Image: 30377791017_b60b3a72e4_n.jpg]
[Image: 31443268988_68e92d6156_n.jpg]

South:
[Image: 44214568180_fa096edae1_n.jpg]
[/url][Image: 45012387464_7003ed3d38_n.jpg]

Yorkshire:
[Image: 45862738542_7edd6511b9_n.jpg]
[Image: 30328346117_3748d6653b_n.jpg]

Wales:
[Image: 44596283554_75c4817f9f_n.jpg]
[Image: 44172899470_24ca38a229_n.jpg]
 [url=https://flic.kr/p/QjiPfd]


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RBZ 5459
29 Nov 2018, 10:46 am #99

(29 Nov 2018, 9:23 am)Kuyoyo They aren't copying Go North East - the style Stagecoach is using is the same as that used by the Cumbria and North Lancashire division.


Been in use for a while in the Teesside/Hartlepool list - only initially on certain destinations (12 to Hemlington and Parkway Centre, 13 Middlesbrough and 1 Hartlepool Centre), it appears to have been rolled out properly to all services this week (noticed a 59 showing Stockton Castlegate Centre in the style on Tuesday morning and a 58 Hardwick last night).

Indeed, the custom Cumbria & North Lancs fonts are proving to be popular choices of fonts........  
Stagecoach South, Wales and Yorkshire also in on the action too. 

Cumbria:
[Image: 30377791017_b60b3a72e4_n.jpg]
[Image: 31443268988_68e92d6156_n.jpg]

South:
[Image: 44214568180_fa096edae1_n.jpg]
[/url][Image: 45012387464_7003ed3d38_n.jpg]

Yorkshire:
[Image: 45862738542_7edd6511b9_n.jpg]
[Image: 30328346117_3748d6653b_n.jpg]

Wales:
[Image: 44596283554_75c4817f9f_n.jpg]
[Image: 44172899470_24ca38a229_n.jpg]
 [url=https://flic.kr/p/QjiPfd]



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idiot



1,120
29 Nov 2018, 7:12 pm #100
Seen this a month ago or summit with the Alexandra example mentioned earlier.
idiot
29 Nov 2018, 7:12 pm #100

Seen this a month ago or summit with the Alexandra example mentioned earlier.

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