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Andreos1



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15 Dec 2018, 9:47 am #121
(15 Dec 2018, 9:40 am)Jamie M If you can drive on local roads you can drive on any roads. Local knowledge is helpful but doesn't affect how you deal with and anticipate situations. It's a confidence booster more than anything that the trainees can drive anywhere in any situation and manage it, especially on the test.

Theres a handful of core test routes but the examiner often deviates from them massively. The only requirement is you complete a certain amount of turns and situations to analyse safety. The where and then when is largely irrelevant.

See I tend to disagree slightly. 
The number of errors at the roundabouts at South Gosforth was proportionaly high.
The road layout and need for extra space caused no end of issues on a regular basis. 
That's with people being quite familiar with the area.
Now assuming Carlisle is used as last resort and you have a confident learner, but who is unfamiliar with something with the road layout over there, similar to South Gosforth - then the chances of a mistake are going to be increased.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
15 Dec 2018, 9:47 am #121

(15 Dec 2018, 9:40 am)Jamie M If you can drive on local roads you can drive on any roads. Local knowledge is helpful but doesn't affect how you deal with and anticipate situations. It's a confidence booster more than anything that the trainees can drive anywhere in any situation and manage it, especially on the test.

Theres a handful of core test routes but the examiner often deviates from them massively. The only requirement is you complete a certain amount of turns and situations to analyse safety. The where and then when is largely irrelevant.

See I tend to disagree slightly. 
The number of errors at the roundabouts at South Gosforth was proportionaly high.
The road layout and need for extra space caused no end of issues on a regular basis. 
That's with people being quite familiar with the area.
Now assuming Carlisle is used as last resort and you have a confident learner, but who is unfamiliar with something with the road layout over there, similar to South Gosforth - then the chances of a mistake are going to be increased.


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

Boggle



57
15 Dec 2018, 11:06 am #122
(15 Dec 2018, 6:41 am)Dan It had been VOR with engine issues at Volvo at the start of September until mid-November.

It was returned to Go North East then, but has had a few more niggles since.

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk

Thanks Dan
Edited 15 Dec 2018, 11:07 am by Boggle.
Boggle
15 Dec 2018, 11:06 am #122

(15 Dec 2018, 6:41 am)Dan It had been VOR with engine issues at Volvo at the start of September until mid-November.

It was returned to Go North East then, but has had a few more niggles since.

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk

Thanks Dan

Michael



19,141
15 Dec 2018, 11:57 am #123
With 629, 630 and 640 heading back to Sunderland council, wonder what the council will do with them?

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
15 Dec 2018, 11:57 am #123

With 629, 630 and 640 heading back to Sunderland council, wonder what the council will do with them?


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Jamie M

Unregistered

 
15 Dec 2018, 1:12 pm #124
Nice touch with the display route in TTX. In line with the branding style.
Jamie M
15 Dec 2018, 1:12 pm #124

Nice touch with the display route in TTX. In line with the branding style.

Michael



19,141
15 Dec 2018, 3:15 pm #125
Seems like Go North East are having problems with the buses on Inidgo East Durham today, still on-going since about 12pm 


Go North East
5 mins ago

Due to continuing technical issues the 14:40 service 202 from Seaham (Dalton Park 14:55, Easington Village 15:18, Peterlee 15:28, Station Town 15:48) and the 15:48 service 202 from Station Town to Peterlee 16:03 will not be operating. We apologise for any inconvenience


Go North East
39 mins ·
Due to continuing technical issues the 14:46 service 208 from Peterlee to Easington Village 15:13 and the 15:14 service 208 from Easington Village to Peterlee 15:41 will not be operating. We apologise for any inconvenience.

Go North East
1 hr · 
Due to technical issues the 13:40 service 265 from Durham (Belmont 13:51, Hetton 14:03, Dalton Park 14:21, Seaham 14:36) will not be operating. We apologise for any inconvenience


Go North East
2 hrs · 
Due to technical issues the 13:00 service 201 from Peterlee (Bracken Hill 13:15, Peterlee 13:25) will not be operating. We apologise for any inconvenience


Go North East
2 hrs · 
Due to technical issues the 12:28 service 210 from Peterlee ( Hordon 12:40, Peterlee 12:58) will not be operating. We apologise for any inconvenience

Go North East
3 hrs · 
Due to technical issues the 12:00 service 201 from Peterlee (Bracken Hill 12:15, Peterlee 12:25) will not be operating. We apologise for any inconvenience



Due to technical issues the 11:28 service 210 from Peterlee (Horton 11:40, Peterlee 11:58) will not be operating. We apologise for any inconvenience


Go North East
3 hrs · 
Due to technical issues the 11:16 service 208 from Peterlee (Easington Village 11:43, South Hetton 11:50, Belmont 12:07, Durham 12:28) will not be operating. We apologise for any inconvenience

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
15 Dec 2018, 3:15 pm #125

Seems like Go North East are having problems with the buses on Inidgo East Durham today, still on-going since about 12pm 


Go North East
5 mins ago

Due to continuing technical issues the 14:40 service 202 from Seaham (Dalton Park 14:55, Easington Village 15:18, Peterlee 15:28, Station Town 15:48) and the 15:48 service 202 from Station Town to Peterlee 16:03 will not be operating. We apologise for any inconvenience


Go North East
39 mins ·
Due to continuing technical issues the 14:46 service 208 from Peterlee to Easington Village 15:13 and the 15:14 service 208 from Easington Village to Peterlee 15:41 will not be operating. We apologise for any inconvenience.

Go North East
1 hr · 
Due to technical issues the 13:40 service 265 from Durham (Belmont 13:51, Hetton 14:03, Dalton Park 14:21, Seaham 14:36) will not be operating. We apologise for any inconvenience


Go North East
2 hrs · 
Due to technical issues the 13:00 service 201 from Peterlee (Bracken Hill 13:15, Peterlee 13:25) will not be operating. We apologise for any inconvenience


Go North East
2 hrs · 
Due to technical issues the 12:28 service 210 from Peterlee ( Hordon 12:40, Peterlee 12:58) will not be operating. We apologise for any inconvenience

Go North East
3 hrs · 
Due to technical issues the 12:00 service 201 from Peterlee (Bracken Hill 12:15, Peterlee 12:25) will not be operating. We apologise for any inconvenience



Due to technical issues the 11:28 service 210 from Peterlee (Horton 11:40, Peterlee 11:58) will not be operating. We apologise for any inconvenience


Go North East
3 hrs · 
Due to technical issues the 11:16 service 208 from Peterlee (Easington Village 11:43, South Hetton 11:50, Belmont 12:07, Durham 12:28) will not be operating. We apologise for any inconvenience


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Michael



19,141
15 Dec 2018, 3:46 pm #126
(15 Dec 2018, 3:15 pm)Michael Seems like Go North East are having problems with the buses on Inidgo East Durham today, still on-going since about 12pm 


Go North East
5 mins ago

Due to continuing technical issues the 14:40 service 202 from Seaham (Dalton Park 14:55, Easington Village 15:18, Peterlee 15:28, Station Town 15:48) and the 15:48 service 202 from Station Town to Peterlee 16:03 will not be operating. We apologise for any inconvenience


Go North East
39 mins ·
Due to continuing technical issues the 14:46 service 208 from Peterlee to Easington Village 15:13 and the 15:14 service 208 from Easington Village to Peterlee 15:41 will not be operating. We apologise for any inconvenience.

Go North East
1 hr · 
Due to technical issues the 13:40 service 265 from Durham (Belmont 13:51, Hetton 14:03, Dalton Park 14:21, Seaham 14:36) will not be operating. We apologise for any inconvenience


Go North East
2 hrs · 
Due to technical issues the 13:00 service 201 from Peterlee (Bracken Hill 13:15, Peterlee 13:25) will not be operating. We apologise for any inconvenience


Go North East
2 hrs · 
Due to technical issues the 12:28 service 210 from Peterlee ( Hordon 12:40, Peterlee 12:58) will not be operating. We apologise for any inconvenience

Go North East
3 hrs · 
Due to technical issues the 12:00 service 201 from Peterlee (Bracken Hill 12:15, Peterlee 12:25) will not be operating. We apologise for any inconvenience



Due to technical issues the 11:28 service 210 from Peterlee (Horton 11:40, Peterlee 11:58) will not be operating. We apologise for any inconvenience


Go North East
3 hrs · 
Due to technical issues the 11:16 service 208 from Peterlee (Easington Village 11:43, South Hetton 11:50, Belmont 12:07, Durham 12:28) will not be operating. We apologise for any inconvenience

The buses seem to be having a problem on the 35 too.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
15 Dec 2018, 3:46 pm #126

(15 Dec 2018, 3:15 pm)Michael Seems like Go North East are having problems with the buses on Inidgo East Durham today, still on-going since about 12pm 


Go North East
5 mins ago

Due to continuing technical issues the 14:40 service 202 from Seaham (Dalton Park 14:55, Easington Village 15:18, Peterlee 15:28, Station Town 15:48) and the 15:48 service 202 from Station Town to Peterlee 16:03 will not be operating. We apologise for any inconvenience


Go North East
39 mins ·
Due to continuing technical issues the 14:46 service 208 from Peterlee to Easington Village 15:13 and the 15:14 service 208 from Easington Village to Peterlee 15:41 will not be operating. We apologise for any inconvenience.

Go North East
1 hr · 
Due to technical issues the 13:40 service 265 from Durham (Belmont 13:51, Hetton 14:03, Dalton Park 14:21, Seaham 14:36) will not be operating. We apologise for any inconvenience


Go North East
2 hrs · 
Due to technical issues the 13:00 service 201 from Peterlee (Bracken Hill 13:15, Peterlee 13:25) will not be operating. We apologise for any inconvenience


Go North East
2 hrs · 
Due to technical issues the 12:28 service 210 from Peterlee ( Hordon 12:40, Peterlee 12:58) will not be operating. We apologise for any inconvenience

Go North East
3 hrs · 
Due to technical issues the 12:00 service 201 from Peterlee (Bracken Hill 12:15, Peterlee 12:25) will not be operating. We apologise for any inconvenience



Due to technical issues the 11:28 service 210 from Peterlee (Horton 11:40, Peterlee 11:58) will not be operating. We apologise for any inconvenience


Go North East
3 hrs · 
Due to technical issues the 11:16 service 208 from Peterlee (Easington Village 11:43, South Hetton 11:50, Belmont 12:07, Durham 12:28) will not be operating. We apologise for any inconvenience

The buses seem to be having a problem on the 35 too.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

park5354



406
15 Dec 2018, 10:14 pm #127
(15 Dec 2018, 6:41 am)Dan It had been VOR with engine issues at Volvo at the start of September until mid-November.

It was returned to Go North East then, but has had a few more niggles since.

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk

Had engine issues when on Tall Ships, with frequent loss of power, engine cutting out, pulling away at very slow pace (often lasting several minutes) and not wanting to change gear.  But if it drove without these issues it was a pleasure to drive.

5390 is back at Riverside, and was on Q3 today.
Edited 15 Dec 2018, 10:14 pm by park5354.
park5354
15 Dec 2018, 10:14 pm #127

(15 Dec 2018, 6:41 am)Dan It had been VOR with engine issues at Volvo at the start of September until mid-November.

It was returned to Go North East then, but has had a few more niggles since.

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk

Had engine issues when on Tall Ships, with frequent loss of power, engine cutting out, pulling away at very slow pace (often lasting several minutes) and not wanting to change gear.  But if it drove without these issues it was a pleasure to drive.

5390 is back at Riverside, and was on Q3 today.

Jamie M

Unregistered

 
15 Dec 2018, 10:33 pm #128
(15 Dec 2018, 10:14 pm)park5354 Had engine issues when on Tall Ships, with frequent loss of power, engine cutting out, pulling away at very slow pace (often lasting several minutes) and not wanting to change gear.  But if it drove without these issues it was a pleasure to drive.

5390 is back at Riverside, and was on Q3 today.
Did 5390 ever leave..?
Jamie M
15 Dec 2018, 10:33 pm #128

(15 Dec 2018, 10:14 pm)park5354 Had engine issues when on Tall Ships, with frequent loss of power, engine cutting out, pulling away at very slow pace (often lasting several minutes) and not wanting to change gear.  But if it drove without these issues it was a pleasure to drive.

5390 is back at Riverside, and was on Q3 today.
Did 5390 ever leave..?

makem1



55
15 Dec 2018, 10:42 pm #129
(15 Dec 2018, 9:47 am)Andreos1 See I tend to disagree slightly. 
The number of errors at the roundabouts at South Gosforth was proportionaly high.
The road layout and need for extra space caused no end of issues on a regular basis. 
That's with people being quite familiar with the area.
Now assuming Carlisle is used as last resort and you have a confident learner, but who is unfamiliar with something with the road layout over there, similar to South Gosforth - then the chances of a mistake are going to be increased.

Sorry you are totally wrong with this statement, first to get behind the wheel of a bus you have to be a qualified driver and as such should be well used to hazards on the roads, you are being trained to handle a larger vehicle NOT learn to drive. Trainees are taken all over the north east to learn situations such as you describe, they cannot just learn the test routes. When I trained we went over the test routes a few times but usually we just headed where the instructor felt comfortable
makem1
15 Dec 2018, 10:42 pm #129

(15 Dec 2018, 9:47 am)Andreos1 See I tend to disagree slightly. 
The number of errors at the roundabouts at South Gosforth was proportionaly high.
The road layout and need for extra space caused no end of issues on a regular basis. 
That's with people being quite familiar with the area.
Now assuming Carlisle is used as last resort and you have a confident learner, but who is unfamiliar with something with the road layout over there, similar to South Gosforth - then the chances of a mistake are going to be increased.

Sorry you are totally wrong with this statement, first to get behind the wheel of a bus you have to be a qualified driver and as such should be well used to hazards on the roads, you are being trained to handle a larger vehicle NOT learn to drive. Trainees are taken all over the north east to learn situations such as you describe, they cannot just learn the test routes. When I trained we went over the test routes a few times but usually we just headed where the instructor felt comfortable

Andreos1



14,155
16 Dec 2018, 1:17 am #130
(15 Dec 2018, 10:42 pm)makem1 Sorry you are totally wrong with this statement, first to get behind the wheel of a bus you have to be a qualified driver and as such should be well used to hazards   on the roads, you are being trained to handle a larger vehicle NOT learn to drive. Trainees are taken all over the north east to learn situations such as you describe, they cannot just learn the test routes. When I trained we went over the test routes a few times but usually we just headed where the instructor felt comfortable

Ever driven in the car in a strange city? On roads you're unfamiliar with? Getting in the wrong lane by accident?
You get honked at, get gestured at or in a worst case scenario, metal hits metal. 
Imagine doing that in a vehicle you've not much experience in, several times the size of your car, in test conditions, knowing your future is on the line... 

Nobody has said they have to just learn all of the test routes. It's impossible to teach all of the test routes. Jamie pointed out himself that there are variations and deviations. 

The instructor is coaching someone to pass a test.  His/her job is often based on success rates. Just like a teacher at school. 
If an instructor doesn't tell someone or show someone a stretch of road, that is likely to pop up during the test, then the chances are that a minor fault will happen. At the very least. 

I agree that during the sessions with the instructor, that the trainee is being trained to handle a larger vehicle.
However as you know having apparently passed your test, that while on the test, they're also being tested on road sense and road positioning amongst other things. 
I've known people with a car licence who have been turned away from upgrading their licence due to their inability to not only handle the bigger vehicle, but drive in a safe manner. 

Haddricks Mill causes issues with people in cars, vans, lorries or buses. 
People have failed their test because of a dangerous manoeuvre at that roundabout.
It is just a few miles from the test centre and is (or was) on the test route.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
16 Dec 2018, 1:17 am #130

(15 Dec 2018, 10:42 pm)makem1 Sorry you are totally wrong with this statement, first to get behind the wheel of a bus you have to be a qualified driver and as such should be well used to hazards   on the roads, you are being trained to handle a larger vehicle NOT learn to drive. Trainees are taken all over the north east to learn situations such as you describe, they cannot just learn the test routes. When I trained we went over the test routes a few times but usually we just headed where the instructor felt comfortable

Ever driven in the car in a strange city? On roads you're unfamiliar with? Getting in the wrong lane by accident?
You get honked at, get gestured at or in a worst case scenario, metal hits metal. 
Imagine doing that in a vehicle you've not much experience in, several times the size of your car, in test conditions, knowing your future is on the line... 

Nobody has said they have to just learn all of the test routes. It's impossible to teach all of the test routes. Jamie pointed out himself that there are variations and deviations. 

The instructor is coaching someone to pass a test.  His/her job is often based on success rates. Just like a teacher at school. 
If an instructor doesn't tell someone or show someone a stretch of road, that is likely to pop up during the test, then the chances are that a minor fault will happen. At the very least. 

I agree that during the sessions with the instructor, that the trainee is being trained to handle a larger vehicle.
However as you know having apparently passed your test, that while on the test, they're also being tested on road sense and road positioning amongst other things. 
I've known people with a car licence who have been turned away from upgrading their licence due to their inability to not only handle the bigger vehicle, but drive in a safe manner. 

Haddricks Mill causes issues with people in cars, vans, lorries or buses. 
People have failed their test because of a dangerous manoeuvre at that roundabout.
It is just a few miles from the test centre and is (or was) on the test route.


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

park5354



406
16 Dec 2018, 2:28 pm #131
(15 Dec 2018, 10:33 pm)Jamie M Did 5390 ever leave..?

Hadn't seen it since it went for its white paint job.
park5354
16 Dec 2018, 2:28 pm #131

(15 Dec 2018, 10:33 pm)Jamie M Did 5390 ever leave..?

Hadn't seen it since it went for its white paint job.

Dan

Site Administrator

18,099
16 Dec 2018, 2:35 pm #132
(16 Dec 2018, 2:28 pm)park5354 Hadn't seen it since it went for its white paint job.

Been lurking around the Citylink58 route of late - most likely as that was what it was intended to be the spare route for, prior to being repainted for the Great Exhibition of the North event.
Dan
16 Dec 2018, 2:35 pm #132

(16 Dec 2018, 2:28 pm)park5354 Hadn't seen it since it went for its white paint job.

Been lurking around the Citylink58 route of late - most likely as that was what it was intended to be the spare route for, prior to being repainted for the Great Exhibition of the North event.

GNE6312



1,091
16 Dec 2018, 7:57 pm #133
Is 4942 withdrawn
GNE6312
16 Dec 2018, 7:57 pm #133

Is 4942 withdrawn

Jamie M

Unregistered

 
16 Dec 2018, 8:02 pm #134
(16 Dec 2018, 7:57 pm)GNE6312 Is 4942 withdrawn
Yep, find it in your nearest corner shop with some beans in it!
Jamie M
16 Dec 2018, 8:02 pm #134

(16 Dec 2018, 7:57 pm)GNE6312 Is 4942 withdrawn
Yep, find it in your nearest corner shop with some beans in it!

GNE6312



1,091
17 Dec 2018, 4:54 pm #135
Any routes around Newcastle that i can find a dual door or ex blue star citaro on at 9:30 ish on friday
GNE6312
17 Dec 2018, 4:54 pm #135

Any routes around Newcastle that i can find a dual door or ex blue star citaro on at 9:30 ish on friday

S830OFT



1,395
17 Dec 2018, 8:26 pm #136
(17 Dec 2018, 4:54 pm)GNE6312 Any routes around Newcastle that i can find a dual door or ex blue star citaro on at 9:30 ish on friday

The 792 at Longbenton, The K3 at Freeman Hospital (I think a decker works off the 391 for 2 trips).


S830OFT
17 Dec 2018, 8:26 pm #136

(17 Dec 2018, 4:54 pm)GNE6312 Any routes around Newcastle that i can find a dual door or ex blue star citaro on at 9:30 ish on friday

The 792 at Longbenton, The K3 at Freeman Hospital (I think a decker works off the 391 for 2 trips).



GNE6312



1,091
18 Dec 2018, 7:56 am #137
(17 Dec 2018, 8:26 pm)S830OFT The 792 at Longbenton, The K3 at Freeman Hospital (I think a decker works off the 391 for 2 trips).

Thank you
GNE6312
18 Dec 2018, 7:56 am #137

(17 Dec 2018, 8:26 pm)S830OFT The 792 at Longbenton, The K3 at Freeman Hospital (I think a decker works off the 391 for 2 trips).

Thank you

18 Dec 2018, 12:30 pm #138
Saw East Yorks Decker on back of lorry, heading down A1 at about 0615 this morning. Heading back home???
MattRut21
18 Dec 2018, 12:30 pm #138

Saw East Yorks Decker on back of lorry, heading down A1 at about 0615 this morning. Heading back home???

GNE6312



1,091
18 Dec 2018, 3:55 pm #139
(17 Dec 2018, 8:26 pm)S830OFT The 792 at Longbenton, The K3 at Freeman Hospital (I think a decker works off the 391 for 2 trips).

Also, what time is the dual door on the K3 till, i will be getting on at four lane ends so what time does the dual door's last k3 trip get to four lane ends and what direction in.
GNE6312
18 Dec 2018, 3:55 pm #139

(17 Dec 2018, 8:26 pm)S830OFT The 792 at Longbenton, The K3 at Freeman Hospital (I think a decker works off the 391 for 2 trips).

Also, what time is the dual door on the K3 till, i will be getting on at four lane ends so what time does the dual door's last k3 trip get to four lane ends and what direction in.

S813 FVK



6,030
18 Dec 2018, 4:16 pm #140
(18 Dec 2018, 3:55 pm)GNE6312 Also, what time is the dual door on the K3 till, i will be getting on at four lane ends so what time does the dual door's last k3 trip get to four lane ends and what direction in.

The first 3 trips (8:26/9:31 from Forest Hall, 9:12 from Freeman Hospital)

No idea what it runs off, but isn't the 391 as previously suggested. That goes onto the 1 from Byker at 8:13.
S813 FVK
18 Dec 2018, 4:16 pm #140

(18 Dec 2018, 3:55 pm)GNE6312 Also, what time is the dual door on the K3 till, i will be getting on at four lane ends so what time does the dual door's last k3 trip get to four lane ends and what direction in.

The first 3 trips (8:26/9:31 from Forest Hall, 9:12 from Freeman Hospital)

No idea what it runs off, but isn't the 391 as previously suggested. That goes onto the 1 from Byker at 8:13.

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