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Arriva North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2019

 
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01 Apr 2019, 8:26 am #1
A large batch of Wright StreetAirs are being delivered. Some for Blyth.
Edited 01 Apr 2019, 8:26 am by omnicity4659.
omnicity4659
01 Apr 2019, 8:26 am #1

A large batch of Wright StreetAirs are being delivered. Some for Blyth.

S830OFT



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01 Apr 2019, 10:15 am #2
With the roadworks commencing later this week, here is what Arriva will be doing with service X12/22.
X12: Journeys split with a change of bus required at Durham.
X22: Will arrive into Middlesbrough at 55 mins past, with 55 minutes layover (unless it will interwork with something else).

With 1915/1922 being retained for the next two weeks, is it likely they will transfer to Redcar after the roadworks replacing deckers going back on X93/Whitby Park and Ride?


S830OFT
01 Apr 2019, 10:15 am #2

With the roadworks commencing later this week, here is what Arriva will be doing with service X12/22.
X12: Journeys split with a change of bus required at Durham.
X22: Will arrive into Middlesbrough at 55 mins past, with 55 minutes layover (unless it will interwork with something else).

With 1915/1922 being retained for the next two weeks, is it likely they will transfer to Redcar after the roadworks replacing deckers going back on X93/Whitby Park and Ride?



Kuyoyo



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01 Apr 2019, 10:22 am #3
(01 Apr 2019, 10:15 am)S830OFT With the roadworks commencing later this week, here is what Arriva will be doing with service X12/22.
X12: Journeys split with a change of bus required at Durham.
X22: Will arrive into Middlesbrough at 55 mins past, with 55 minutes layover (unless it will interwork with something else).

With 1915/1922 being retained for the next two weeks, is it likely they will transfer to Redcar after the roadworks replacing deckers going back on X93/Whitby Park and Ride?

X12 is unchanged in operating terms - just that buses will have a 25 minute layover in Middlesbrough, hence the extra vehicle.
Kuyoyo
01 Apr 2019, 10:22 am #3

(01 Apr 2019, 10:15 am)S830OFT With the roadworks commencing later this week, here is what Arriva will be doing with service X12/22.
X12: Journeys split with a change of bus required at Durham.
X22: Will arrive into Middlesbrough at 55 mins past, with 55 minutes layover (unless it will interwork with something else).

With 1915/1922 being retained for the next two weeks, is it likely they will transfer to Redcar after the roadworks replacing deckers going back on X93/Whitby Park and Ride?

X12 is unchanged in operating terms - just that buses will have a 25 minute layover in Middlesbrough, hence the extra vehicle.

01 Apr 2019, 10:26 am #4
(01 Apr 2019, 8:26 am)omnicity4659 A large batch of Wright StreetAirs are being delivered. Some for Blyth.

April 1st perhaps
Coppercap40
01 Apr 2019, 10:26 am #4

(01 Apr 2019, 8:26 am)omnicity4659 A large batch of Wright StreetAirs are being delivered. Some for Blyth.

April 1st perhaps

GNE6312



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01 Apr 2019, 5:58 pm #5
(01 Apr 2019, 10:26 am)Coppercap40 April 1st perhaps

Hopefully not

(01 Apr 2019, 10:22 am)Kuyoyo X12 is unchanged in operating terms - just that buses will have a 25 minute layover in Middlesbrough, hence the extra vehicle.

Any centros or lowlanders allocated?
Edited 01 Apr 2019, 6:02 pm by GNE6312.
GNE6312
01 Apr 2019, 5:58 pm #5

(01 Apr 2019, 10:26 am)Coppercap40 April 1st perhaps

Hopefully not

(01 Apr 2019, 10:22 am)Kuyoyo X12 is unchanged in operating terms - just that buses will have a 25 minute layover in Middlesbrough, hence the extra vehicle.

Any centros or lowlanders allocated?

Cock Robin



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02 Apr 2019, 8:24 am #6
(30 Mar 2019, 7:11 pm)Kuyoyo It’s been back in service for a few weeks now. It and 1922 remain on fleet - one shall be chopped once the upcoming roadworks in Sedgefield are complete (possibly). Stockton's PVR is due to increase by 2 for the two week duration of the work.

Not if 1923 is still off the road.

(01 Apr 2019, 10:15 am)S830OFT With the roadworks commencing later this week, here is what Arriva will be doing with service X12/22.
X12: Journeys split with a change of bus required at Durham.
X22: Will arrive into Middlesbrough at 55 mins past, with 55 minutes layover (unless it will interwork with something else).

With 1915/1922 being retained for the next two weeks, is it likely they will transfer to Redcar after the roadworks replacing deckers going back on X93/Whitby Park and Ride?

Would expect Redcar to have all
of 7424-6 back not get Cadets.

And maybe 1759 will (officially) rejoin the active fleet!
Edited 02 Apr 2019, 8:28 am by Cock Robin.
Cock Robin
02 Apr 2019, 8:24 am #6

(30 Mar 2019, 7:11 pm)Kuyoyo It’s been back in service for a few weeks now. It and 1922 remain on fleet - one shall be chopped once the upcoming roadworks in Sedgefield are complete (possibly). Stockton's PVR is due to increase by 2 for the two week duration of the work.

Not if 1923 is still off the road.

(01 Apr 2019, 10:15 am)S830OFT With the roadworks commencing later this week, here is what Arriva will be doing with service X12/22.
X12: Journeys split with a change of bus required at Durham.
X22: Will arrive into Middlesbrough at 55 mins past, with 55 minutes layover (unless it will interwork with something else).

With 1915/1922 being retained for the next two weeks, is it likely they will transfer to Redcar after the roadworks replacing deckers going back on X93/Whitby Park and Ride?

Would expect Redcar to have all
of 7424-6 back not get Cadets.

And maybe 1759 will (officially) rejoin the active fleet!

S830OFT



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02 Apr 2019, 1:23 pm #7
Where are 1914/1916 allocated to with Arriva Yorkshire?


S830OFT
02 Apr 2019, 1:23 pm #7

Where are 1914/1916 allocated to with Arriva Yorkshire?



02 Apr 2019, 2:36 pm #8
Appears to be Wakefield
omnicity4659
02 Apr 2019, 2:36 pm #8

Appears to be Wakefield

V514DFT



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04 Apr 2019, 12:28 am #9
Deffinately looks like theyre changing the size of the route number on the busses

Kind Regards
Tez
V514DFT
04 Apr 2019, 12:28 am #9

Deffinately looks like theyre changing the size of the route number on the busses


Kind Regards
Tez

GNE6312



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04 Apr 2019, 6:40 am #10
1760 is apparently getting refurbished
GNE6312
04 Apr 2019, 6:40 am #10

1760 is apparently getting refurbished

S813 FVK



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04 Apr 2019, 7:24 am #11
1331 is the bus to gain Adventure Valley branding for the 62:
https://twitter.com/simongarbutt1/status...41258?s=21
Edited 04 Apr 2019, 7:25 am by S813 FVK.
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S813 FVK
04 Apr 2019, 7:24 am #11

1331 is the bus to gain Adventure Valley branding for the 62:
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04 Apr 2019, 11:05 am #12
(04 Apr 2019, 6:40 am)GNE6312 1760 is apparently getting refurbished

Yeah it's away to Thorntons.


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RBZ 5459
04 Apr 2019, 11:05 am #12

(04 Apr 2019, 6:40 am)GNE6312 1760 is apparently getting refurbished

Yeah it's away to Thorntons.



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Malarkey



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04 Apr 2019, 11:12 am #13
(04 Apr 2019, 11:05 am)RBZ 5459 Yeah it's away to Thorntons.

Why are Arriva refurbishing 14 year old minibuses for?

Surely these MPD's should be getting withdrawn.

Here is 1760 on Monday prior to going off to Thorntons - https://www.flickr.com/photos/adammalark...ed-public/
Edited 04 Apr 2019, 11:14 am by Malarkey.
Malarkey
04 Apr 2019, 11:12 am #13

(04 Apr 2019, 11:05 am)RBZ 5459 Yeah it's away to Thorntons.

Why are Arriva refurbishing 14 year old minibuses for?

Surely these MPD's should be getting withdrawn.

Here is 1760 on Monday prior to going off to Thorntons - https://www.flickr.com/photos/adammalark...ed-public/

04 Apr 2019, 11:29 am #14
(04 Apr 2019, 11:12 am)Malarkey Why are Arriva refurbishing 14 year old minibuses for?

Surely these MPD's should be getting withdrawn.

Here is 1760 on Monday prior to going off to Thorntons - https://www.flickr.com/photos/adammalark...ed-public/

It's just in for repaint. Guess they have a few more years left in them, and they have done all the Solos at Blyth now so must be wanting to get the mini-buses through. Plus it has been in its current outfit for all of them 14 years..! Midlands have painted some 53 platers.
Edited 04 Apr 2019, 11:31 am by RBZ 5459.


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RBZ 5459
04 Apr 2019, 11:29 am #14

(04 Apr 2019, 11:12 am)Malarkey Why are Arriva refurbishing 14 year old minibuses for?

Surely these MPD's should be getting withdrawn.

Here is 1760 on Monday prior to going off to Thorntons - https://www.flickr.com/photos/adammalark...ed-public/

It's just in for repaint. Guess they have a few more years left in them, and they have done all the Solos at Blyth now so must be wanting to get the mini-buses through. Plus it has been in its current outfit for all of them 14 years..! Midlands have painted some 53 platers.



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GNE6312



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04 Apr 2019, 1:56 pm #15
(04 Apr 2019, 11:05 am)RBZ 5459 Yeah it's away to Thorntons.

How long will it be?
GNE6312
04 Apr 2019, 1:56 pm #15

(04 Apr 2019, 11:05 am)RBZ 5459 Yeah it's away to Thorntons.

How long will it be?

Malarkey



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04 Apr 2019, 4:08 pm #16
(04 Apr 2019, 11:29 am)RBZ 5459 It's just in for repaint. Guess they have a few more years left in them, and they have done all the Solos at Blyth now so must be wanting to get the mini-buses through. Plus it has been in its current outfit for all of them 14 years..! Midlands have painted some 53 platers.

I just find it odd given Go North East got rid of the vast majority of there remaining 53 plate darts three years ago.

Seems like Arriva prefer to hang on to whatever they have for as long as possible until eventually it breaks completely, I bet they'd still have step entrance vehicles in service now if it wasn't for the implementation of PSVAR in 2016. 

A few of the mini pointer darts passed me on Monday while in Blyth and Morpeth on the 2 and one which was on the X9 and they didn't sound all that healthy.
Malarkey
04 Apr 2019, 4:08 pm #16

(04 Apr 2019, 11:29 am)RBZ 5459 It's just in for repaint. Guess they have a few more years left in them, and they have done all the Solos at Blyth now so must be wanting to get the mini-buses through. Plus it has been in its current outfit for all of them 14 years..! Midlands have painted some 53 platers.

I just find it odd given Go North East got rid of the vast majority of there remaining 53 plate darts three years ago.

Seems like Arriva prefer to hang on to whatever they have for as long as possible until eventually it breaks completely, I bet they'd still have step entrance vehicles in service now if it wasn't for the implementation of PSVAR in 2016. 

A few of the mini pointer darts passed me on Monday while in Blyth and Morpeth on the 2 and one which was on the X9 and they didn't sound all that healthy.

Jimmi



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04 Apr 2019, 4:23 pm #17
(04 Apr 2019, 4:08 pm)Malarkey I just find it odd given Go North East got rid of the vast majority of there remaining 53 plate darts three years ago.

Seems like Arriva prefer to hang on to whatever they have for as long as possible until eventually it breaks completely, I bet they'd still have step entrance vehicles in service now if it wasn't for the implementation of PSVAR in 2016. 

A few of the mini pointer darts passed me on Monday while in Blyth and Morpeth on the 2 and one which was on the X9 and they didn't sound all that healthy.
Not really surprising considering other Arriva division's are or at least were running older MPDs around than we are, Wales were running some 51 plates around not long ago and 52 plates in the Midlands until that bit got sold off to Diamond.

Based on this, I can't see the Solos going to scrap until 2023 at the earliest
Edited 04 Apr 2019, 4:24 pm by Jimmi.
Jimmi
04 Apr 2019, 4:23 pm #17

(04 Apr 2019, 4:08 pm)Malarkey I just find it odd given Go North East got rid of the vast majority of there remaining 53 plate darts three years ago.

Seems like Arriva prefer to hang on to whatever they have for as long as possible until eventually it breaks completely, I bet they'd still have step entrance vehicles in service now if it wasn't for the implementation of PSVAR in 2016. 

A few of the mini pointer darts passed me on Monday while in Blyth and Morpeth on the 2 and one which was on the X9 and they didn't sound all that healthy.
Not really surprising considering other Arriva division's are or at least were running older MPDs around than we are, Wales were running some 51 plates around not long ago and 52 plates in the Midlands until that bit got sold off to Diamond.

Based on this, I can't see the Solos going to scrap until 2023 at the earliest

Malarkey



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04 Apr 2019, 4:41 pm #18
(04 Apr 2019, 4:23 pm)Jimmi Not really surprising considering other Arriva division's are or at least were running older MPDs around than we are, Wales were running some 51 plates around not long ago and 52 plates in the Midlands until that bit got sold off to Diamond.

Based on this, I can't see the Solos going to scrap until 2023 at the earliest

Even some of them with eldest being 11 years old are not in great condition either and would've again thought Arriva would be looking to replace these within the next year.

To my knowledge a mini bus has a shell life of around 12 years from what I remember Dan mentioning quite a while back.

The entire fleet across the country needs a massive overhaul by the sounds of it which will be a massive task for anyone who is looking to purchase Arriva given that they are up for sale.
Malarkey
04 Apr 2019, 4:41 pm #18

(04 Apr 2019, 4:23 pm)Jimmi Not really surprising considering other Arriva division's are or at least were running older MPDs around than we are, Wales were running some 51 plates around not long ago and 52 plates in the Midlands until that bit got sold off to Diamond.

Based on this, I can't see the Solos going to scrap until 2023 at the earliest

Even some of them with eldest being 11 years old are not in great condition either and would've again thought Arriva would be looking to replace these within the next year.

To my knowledge a mini bus has a shell life of around 12 years from what I remember Dan mentioning quite a while back.

The entire fleet across the country needs a massive overhaul by the sounds of it which will be a massive task for anyone who is looking to purchase Arriva given that they are up for sale.

Dan

Site Administrator

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04 Apr 2019, 4:49 pm #19
(04 Apr 2019, 4:41 pm)Malarkey Even some of them with eldest being 11 years old are not in great condition either and would've again thought Arriva would be looking to replace these within the next year.

To my knowledge a mini bus has a shell life of around 12 years from what I remember Dan mentioning quite a while back.

The entire fleet across the country needs a massive overhaul by the sounds of it which will be a massive task for anyone who is looking to purchase Arriva given that they are up for sale.

That's the rule of thumb for Go North East - depreciating a minibus over 12 years - but other operators tend to keep them a bit longer!
Dan
04 Apr 2019, 4:49 pm #19

(04 Apr 2019, 4:41 pm)Malarkey Even some of them with eldest being 11 years old are not in great condition either and would've again thought Arriva would be looking to replace these within the next year.

To my knowledge a mini bus has a shell life of around 12 years from what I remember Dan mentioning quite a while back.

The entire fleet across the country needs a massive overhaul by the sounds of it which will be a massive task for anyone who is looking to purchase Arriva given that they are up for sale.

That's the rule of thumb for Go North East - depreciating a minibus over 12 years - but other operators tend to keep them a bit longer!

Andreos1



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04 Apr 2019, 5:04 pm #20
(04 Apr 2019, 4:41 pm)Malarkey Even some of them with eldest being 11 years old are not in great condition either and would've again thought Arriva would be looking to replace these within the next year.

To my knowledge a mini bus has a shell life of around 12 years from what I remember Dan mentioning quite a while back.

The entire fleet across the country needs a massive overhaul by the sounds of it which will be a massive task for anyone who is looking to purchase Arriva given that they are up for sale.

To be honest, even when it was United and Northumbria, they had older stock kicking around well after other operators got rid of vehicles of a similar status/age.

Guessing its just how they do things. They certainly like getting their moneys worth!

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
04 Apr 2019, 5:04 pm #20

(04 Apr 2019, 4:41 pm)Malarkey Even some of them with eldest being 11 years old are not in great condition either and would've again thought Arriva would be looking to replace these within the next year.

To my knowledge a mini bus has a shell life of around 12 years from what I remember Dan mentioning quite a while back.

The entire fleet across the country needs a massive overhaul by the sounds of it which will be a massive task for anyone who is looking to purchase Arriva given that they are up for sale.

To be honest, even when it was United and Northumbria, they had older stock kicking around well after other operators got rid of vehicles of a similar status/age.

Guessing its just how they do things. They certainly like getting their moneys worth!


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

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