Deutsche Bahn to sell UK rail and bus operator Arriva
Deutsche Bahn to sell UK rail and bus operator Arriva
(28 Mar 2019, 4:22 pm)Malarkey https://www.theguardian.com/business/201...tor-arriva
(28 Mar 2019, 4:22 pm)Malarkey https://www.theguardian.com/business/201...tor-arriva
Can't imagine First Group given their current situation being interested. Go-ahead maybe considered too well represented locally already, though I could imagine something like the Arriva portion if the 685 being operated by Go North East from Hexham (as it used to be) Would Arriva Northumbria not be of interest to a company such as West Coast Motors?
(28 Mar 2019, 5:03 pm)GNE6312 Hopefully Arriva gets sold to someone willing to invest in new buses and trains. Maybe first group or go-ahead.
(28 Mar 2019, 5:03 pm)GNE6312 Hopefully Arriva gets sold to someone willing to invest in new buses and trains. Maybe first group or go-ahead.
From what I hear it'll be sold off as a whole. Forget First or Go-Ahead, look more at consortiums of wealthy investors.
(30 Mar 2019, 2:01 am)omnicity4659 From what I hear it'll be sold off as a whole. Forget First or Go-Ahead, look more at consortiums of wealthy investors.
(30 Mar 2019, 2:01 am)omnicity4659 From what I hear it'll be sold off as a whole. Forget First or Go-Ahead, look more at consortiums of wealthy investors.
(30 Mar 2019, 2:01 am)omnicity4659 From what I hear it'll be sold off as a whole. Forget First or Go-Ahead, look more at consortiums of wealthy investors.
(30 Mar 2019, 2:01 am)omnicity4659 From what I hear it'll be sold off as a whole. Forget First or Go-Ahead, look more at consortiums of wealthy investors.
(30 Mar 2019, 9:55 am)Michael Will be interesting to see who buys it!
Could first or Go-Ahead even afford it?, would be good, if they sold all the NE operations to Go North East and Stagecoach though, and then the rest were bought by other companies.
Edit:
How much is it to buy?
(30 Mar 2019, 9:55 am)Michael Will be interesting to see who buys it!
Could first or Go-Ahead even afford it?, would be good, if they sold all the NE operations to Go North East and Stagecoach though, and then the rest were bought by other companies.
Edit:
How much is it to buy?
(30 Mar 2019, 10:06 am)Andreos1 I imagine whoever gets it, will come under scrutiny from the CMA.
They cover such a huge swathe of the UK with bus and rail that there are bound to be concerns that whoever gets it will end up with a monopoly which needs breaking up.
I would think DB would want to sell the lot in one go, but the quoted €4bn price may put off some suitors and as a result, there may be elements or divisions hived off separately - if DB get that desperate.
(30 Mar 2019, 10:06 am)Andreos1 I imagine whoever gets it, will come under scrutiny from the CMA.
They cover such a huge swathe of the UK with bus and rail that there are bound to be concerns that whoever gets it will end up with a monopoly which needs breaking up.
I would think DB would want to sell the lot in one go, but the quoted €4bn price may put off some suitors and as a result, there may be elements or divisions hived off separately - if DB get that desperate.
(30 Mar 2019, 11:11 am)Rob44 I think it would be the worst thing to happen if Go North east or stagecoach got their hands on arriva. Competition is virtually none existent now, it would only be worse have 2 giants rather than 3 large companies in the north east
(30 Mar 2019, 11:11 am)Rob44 I think it would be the worst thing to happen if Go North east or stagecoach got their hands on arriva. Competition is virtually none existent now, it would only be worse have 2 giants rather than 3 large companies in the north east
People can forget any sale to a transport provider. That’s not what this is about. It’s ALL of Arriva that DB want rid of. That’s their entire European operation. This is a divestment that is likely to be sold to a consortium of investors likely to include pension funds such as the Canadian one and investment bankers.
Would be great if Go Ahead took Yorkshire over then another piece of the jigsaw between hull and Manchester ??
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In terms of the Northumbria Depots, I'd imagine the following will happen to keep the CMA happy:
- Ashington depot to GNE who will also get services 1 & 2.
- Jesmond depot to GNE and will later close with services being split between Percy Main & Riverside.
- Blyth Depot to Stagecoach.
- Mutual fleet swaps with Stagecoach taking all ADL fleet with GNE taking WrightBus fleet.
And for Durham & Tees:
- Belmont to Stagecoach
- Darlington, Stockton and Redcar to GNE
- Whitby to GNE (EYMS)
(31 Mar 2019, 6:22 pm)L469 YVK In terms of the Northumbria Depots, I'd imagine the following will happen to keep the CMA happy:
- Ashington depot to GNE who will also get services 1 & 2.
- Jesmond depot to GNE and will later close with services being split between Percy Main & Riverside.
- Blyth Depot to Stagecoach.
- Mutual fleet swaps with Stagecoach taking all ADL fleet with GNE taking WrightBus fleet.
And for Durham & Tees:
- Belmont to Stagecoach
- Darlington, Stockton and Redcar to GNE
- Whitby to GNE (EYMS)
(31 Mar 2019, 6:22 pm)L469 YVK In terms of the Northumbria Depots, I'd imagine the following will happen to keep the CMA happy:
- Ashington depot to GNE who will also get services 1 & 2.
- Jesmond depot to GNE and will later close with services being split between Percy Main & Riverside.
- Blyth Depot to Stagecoach.
- Mutual fleet swaps with Stagecoach taking all ADL fleet with GNE taking WrightBus fleet.
And for Durham & Tees:
- Belmont to Stagecoach
- Darlington, Stockton and Redcar to GNE
- Whitby to GNE (EYMS)
(31 Mar 2019, 6:22 pm)L469 YVK In terms of the Northumbria Depots, I'd imagine the following will happen to keep the CMA happy:
- Ashington depot to GNE who will also get services 1 & 2.
- Jesmond depot to GNE and will later close with services being split between Percy Main & Riverside.
- Blyth Depot to Stagecoach.
- Mutual fleet swaps with Stagecoach taking all ADL fleet with GNE taking WrightBus fleet.
And for Durham & Tees:
- Belmont to Stagecoach
- Darlington, Stockton and Redcar to GNE
- Whitby to GNE (EYMS)
(31 Mar 2019, 6:22 pm)L469 YVK In terms of the Northumbria Depots, I'd imagine the following will happen to keep the CMA happy:
- Ashington depot to GNE who will also get services 1 & 2.
- Jesmond depot to GNE and will later close with services being split between Percy Main & Riverside.
- Blyth Depot to Stagecoach.
- Mutual fleet swaps with Stagecoach taking all ADL fleet with GNE taking WrightBus fleet.
And for Durham & Tees:
- Belmont to Stagecoach
- Darlington, Stockton and Redcar to GNE
- Whitby to GNE (EYMS)
(01 Apr 2019, 9:20 am)Kuyoyo How many times does this need explaining
DB are selling Arriva AS A WHOLE!
That's the entire Group - UK Bus, UK Rail, European Bus operations and European Rail operations - as a group.
If they cannot find a buyer for the entire group, they will be floating shares in the Group on the Stock Market.
(01 Apr 2019, 9:20 am)Kuyoyo How many times does this need explaining
DB are selling Arriva AS A WHOLE!
That's the entire Group - UK Bus, UK Rail, European Bus operations and European Rail operations - as a group.
If they cannot find a buyer for the entire group, they will be floating shares in the Group on the Stock Market.
This article says Stagecoach considering a whole or part take over of Arriva (probably not the trains then!)
https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/mark...-sale.html
(31 Mar 2019, 6:22 pm)L469 YVK In terms of the Northumbria Depots, I'd imagine the following will happen to keep the CMA happy:
- Ashington depot to GNE who will also get services 1 & 2.
- Jesmond depot to GNE and will later close with services being split between Percy Main & Riverside.
- Blyth Depot to Stagecoach.
- Mutual fleet swaps with Stagecoach taking all ADL fleet with GNE taking WrightBus fleet.
And for Durham & Tees:
- Belmont to Stagecoach
- Darlington, Stockton and Redcar to GNE
- Whitby to GNE (EYMS)
(31 Mar 2019, 6:22 pm)L469 YVK In terms of the Northumbria Depots, I'd imagine the following will happen to keep the CMA happy:
- Ashington depot to GNE who will also get services 1 & 2.
- Jesmond depot to GNE and will later close with services being split between Percy Main & Riverside.
- Blyth Depot to Stagecoach.
- Mutual fleet swaps with Stagecoach taking all ADL fleet with GNE taking WrightBus fleet.
And for Durham & Tees:
- Belmont to Stagecoach
- Darlington, Stockton and Redcar to GNE
- Whitby to GNE (EYMS)
(14 Apr 2019, 11:14 pm)BusLoverMum Stagecoach have no coverage in any of the Belmont area and most of their services are long distance, so not typical stagecoach.