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Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - July 2019

 
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Andreos1



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22 Jul 2019, 8:35 am #201

(21 Jul 2019, 10:26 pm)N1cholas


Basically any fare under £2 has increased by 10p, returns are still available but are now capped at the price of a day ticket so you will get better value from a day ticket if it is the same price, also QR codes have been removed from return tickets to stop people using them more than they should, basically giving those who were doing it a cheap day ticket as they were not cancelled by the ticket machine after scanning them and could be used again on another vehicle between the same points



Those fares on the 20/X20 are going to be even more interesting than they already were then!



'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
22 Jul 2019, 8:35 am #201

(21 Jul 2019, 10:26 pm)N1cholas


Basically any fare under £2 has increased by 10p, returns are still available but are now capped at the price of a day ticket so you will get better value from a day ticket if it is the same price, also QR codes have been removed from return tickets to stop people using them more than they should, basically giving those who were doing it a cheap day ticket as they were not cancelled by the ticket machine after scanning them and could be used again on another vehicle between the same points



Those fares on the 20/X20 are going to be even more interesting than they already were then!



'Illegitimis non carborundum'

22 Jul 2019, 10:05 am #202
Have they done something to 6301? It sounded like it was struggling less than usual on the A1
streetdeckfan
22 Jul 2019, 10:05 am #202

Have they done something to 6301? It sounded like it was struggling less than usual on the A1

22 Jul 2019, 2:48 pm #203

(21 Jul 2019, 10:13 pm)JM03 Is it possible that with the X30 on a lower allocation that it could go to Riverside when new buses arrive returning the 6 to Consett keeping some Streetlites there plus back-ups then a 2 sent to Riverside to fill in the extra X30 PVR now it is 4?

If the X30 would go there I think they would keep the 6 there as well but not sure


(21 Jul 2019, 9:50 pm)Citaro5338 Does anyone know what is happening to the Red Kite buses in September

Probably Loops, Green Arrows or relief role

Edited 22 Jul 2019, 2:54 pm by michaelb.
michaelb
22 Jul 2019, 2:48 pm #203

(21 Jul 2019, 10:13 pm)JM03 Is it possible that with the X30 on a lower allocation that it could go to Riverside when new buses arrive returning the 6 to Consett keeping some Streetlites there plus back-ups then a 2 sent to Riverside to fill in the extra X30 PVR now it is 4?

If the X30 would go there I think they would keep the 6 there as well but not sure


(21 Jul 2019, 9:50 pm)Citaro5338 Does anyone know what is happening to the Red Kite buses in September

Probably Loops, Green Arrows or relief role

Stanleyone

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22 Jul 2019, 3:32 pm #204

(22 Jul 2019, 2:48 pm)michaelb

If the X30 would go there I think they would keep the 6 there as well but not sure


Probably Loops, Green Arrows or relief role



The Green Arrows are getting the new E200s.

Stanleyone
22 Jul 2019, 3:32 pm #204

(22 Jul 2019, 2:48 pm)michaelb

If the X30 would go there I think they would keep the 6 there as well but not sure


Probably Loops, Green Arrows or relief role



The Green Arrows are getting the new E200s.

Boggle



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22 Jul 2019, 3:55 pm #205
Bit of a mix up for the 16:50 X21 from Newcastle to Durham tonight. 6139 turned up from Chester (as normal for school holidays) closely followed by 6033 from Riverside (as normal on school days), both for the same run. A lack of communication somewhere there.
Boggle
22 Jul 2019, 3:55 pm #205

Bit of a mix up for the 16:50 X21 from Newcastle to Durham tonight. 6139 turned up from Chester (as normal for school holidays) closely followed by 6033 from Riverside (as normal on school days), both for the same run. A lack of communication somewhere there.

22 Jul 2019, 4:44 pm #206
(22 Jul 2019, 3:55 pm)Boggle Bit of a mix up for the 16:50 X21 from Newcastle to Durham tonight. 6139 turned up from Chester (as normal for school holidays) closely followed by 6033 from Riverside (as normal on school days), both for the same run. A lack of communication somewhere there.
Lack of communication with Go North East, I don't believe that!
streetdeckfan
22 Jul 2019, 4:44 pm #206

(22 Jul 2019, 3:55 pm)Boggle Bit of a mix up for the 16:50 X21 from Newcastle to Durham tonight. 6139 turned up from Chester (as normal for school holidays) closely followed by 6033 from Riverside (as normal on school days), both for the same run. A lack of communication somewhere there.
Lack of communication with Go North East, I don't believe that!

L469 YVK



3,549
22 Jul 2019, 4:53 pm #207

(22 Jul 2019, 2:48 pm)michaelb

If the X30 would go there I think they would keep the 6 there as well but not sure


Probably Loops, Green Arrows or relief role



I'd imagine from the soon to be ex PB / RK StreetLites, 8x for CityLink 58 and 5x for Blaydon Racers leaving 1x spare. With the release of 4x Versas from CLS to Riverside, then Versas from 58 go on the Loop alongside these (with some remaining as spare or else) with Blaydon Racer Mercs going on the 6.

L469 YVK
22 Jul 2019, 4:53 pm #207

(22 Jul 2019, 2:48 pm)michaelb

If the X30 would go there I think they would keep the 6 there as well but not sure


Probably Loops, Green Arrows or relief role



I'd imagine from the soon to be ex PB / RK StreetLites, 8x for CityLink 58 and 5x for Blaydon Racers leaving 1x spare. With the release of 4x Versas from CLS to Riverside, then Versas from 58 go on the Loop alongside these (with some remaining as spare or else) with Blaydon Racer Mercs going on the 6.

Jimmi



10,970
22 Jul 2019, 5:01 pm #208
(22 Jul 2019, 3:55 pm)Boggle Bit of a mix up for the 16:50 X21 from Newcastle to Durham tonight. 6139 turned up from Chester (as normal for school holidays) closely followed by 6033 from Riverside (as normal on school days), both for the same run. A lack of communication somewhere there.
Been a bit of a bad day at Chester it seems...

Blue Arrow branded 5268 was on peak X21 this morning.

3943 reportedly on loan to CLS on X22/14
Jimmi
22 Jul 2019, 5:01 pm #208

(22 Jul 2019, 3:55 pm)Boggle Bit of a mix up for the 16:50 X21 from Newcastle to Durham tonight. 6139 turned up from Chester (as normal for school holidays) closely followed by 6033 from Riverside (as normal on school days), both for the same run. A lack of communication somewhere there.
Been a bit of a bad day at Chester it seems...

Blue Arrow branded 5268 was on peak X21 this morning.

3943 reportedly on loan to CLS on X22/14

Dan

Site Administrator

18,117
22 Jul 2019, 5:20 pm #209

(22 Jul 2019, 5:01 pm)Jimmi Been a bit of a bad day at Chester it seems...

Blue Arrow branded 5268 was on peak X21 this morning
.

3943 reportedly on loan to CLS on X22/14


Went to Saltmeadows for repaint immediately after... Shouldn't have been allocated this morning!

Dan
22 Jul 2019, 5:20 pm #209

(22 Jul 2019, 5:01 pm)Jimmi Been a bit of a bad day at Chester it seems...

Blue Arrow branded 5268 was on peak X21 this morning
.

3943 reportedly on loan to CLS on X22/14


Went to Saltmeadows for repaint immediately after... Shouldn't have been allocated this morning!

ne14ne1



1,514
22 Jul 2019, 5:45 pm #210

What a difference the matching red front panel makes. Much better: 


[Image: 48332393607_d13c79e5f1_b.jpg]Go North East 6143 YN04 GKA by aptyldsley, on Flickr


Compared to before:

[Image: 47758118111_0bba29b672_b.jpg]6143 YN04 GKA Go North East by North East Malarkey, on Flickr




Apparently 5258 has had its blue front repainted too so that'll be looking smarter as well.

ne14ne1
22 Jul 2019, 5:45 pm #210

What a difference the matching red front panel makes. Much better: 


[Image: 48332393607_d13c79e5f1_b.jpg]Go North East 6143 YN04 GKA by aptyldsley, on Flickr


Compared to before:

[Image: 47758118111_0bba29b672_b.jpg]6143 YN04 GKA Go North East by North East Malarkey, on Flickr




Apparently 5258 has had its blue front repainted too so that'll be looking smarter as well.

Boggle



57
22 Jul 2019, 5:57 pm #211

(22 Jul 2019, 3:55 pm)Boggle Bit of a mix up for the 16:50 X21 from Newcastle to Durham tonight. 6139 turned up from Chester (as normal for school holidays) closely followed by 6033 from Riverside (as normal on school days), both for the same run. A lack of communication somewhere there.


Most bizarrely, both buses ran the service in tandem, 6033 following 6139 entirely empty.

Boggle
22 Jul 2019, 5:57 pm #211

(22 Jul 2019, 3:55 pm)Boggle Bit of a mix up for the 16:50 X21 from Newcastle to Durham tonight. 6139 turned up from Chester (as normal for school holidays) closely followed by 6033 from Riverside (as normal on school days), both for the same run. A lack of communication somewhere there.


Most bizarrely, both buses ran the service in tandem, 6033 following 6139 entirely empty.

22 Jul 2019, 6:42 pm #212

What buses do the 197 get?

michaelb
22 Jul 2019, 6:42 pm #212

What buses do the 197 get?

Dan

Site Administrator

18,117
22 Jul 2019, 6:49 pm #213

(22 Jul 2019, 6:42 pm)michaelb

What buses do the 197 get?



Volvo B7s, in between scholars.

Dan
22 Jul 2019, 6:49 pm #213

(22 Jul 2019, 6:42 pm)michaelb

What buses do the 197 get?



Volvo B7s, in between scholars.

Jamie M

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22 Jul 2019, 10:42 pm #214

(22 Jul 2019, 6:49 pm)Dan


Volvo B7s, in between scholars.



He means work services Wink

Jamie M
22 Jul 2019, 10:42 pm #214

(22 Jul 2019, 6:49 pm)Dan


Volvo B7s, in between scholars.



He means work services Wink

23 Jul 2019, 2:05 am #215

(22 Jul 2019, 8:09 am)Adrian


I'd imagine it would be difficult  because I don't think that the QR codes aren't stored centrally to validate them on scan, but merely contain an encrypted expiry date within the QR code.



It's not difficult as Arriva had the machines updated (hence why they no longer rip QRs) to make sure that reused returns got rejected, it's the same at a few other companies too.

omnicity4659
23 Jul 2019, 2:05 am #215

(22 Jul 2019, 8:09 am)Adrian


I'd imagine it would be difficult  because I don't think that the QR codes aren't stored centrally to validate them on scan, but merely contain an encrypted expiry date within the QR code.



It's not difficult as Arriva had the machines updated (hence why they no longer rip QRs) to make sure that reused returns got rejected, it's the same at a few other companies too.

Andreos1



14,218
23 Jul 2019, 7:34 am #216

(23 Jul 2019, 2:05 am)omnicity4659


It's not difficult as Arriva had the machines updated (hence why they no longer rip QRs) to make sure that reused returns got rejected, it's the same at a few other companies too.



I'd assume it makes it easier to identify travel patterns with the QR too. Whether this was to work out the time of the return trip or to try and identify if everyone who bought a return, ended up using the second portion and if not, why not? (there's nowt worse than missing that last bus unexpectedly and seeing the standard 'not enough demand for a later bus' trotted out).


'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
23 Jul 2019, 7:34 am #216

(23 Jul 2019, 2:05 am)omnicity4659


It's not difficult as Arriva had the machines updated (hence why they no longer rip QRs) to make sure that reused returns got rejected, it's the same at a few other companies too.



I'd assume it makes it easier to identify travel patterns with the QR too. Whether this was to work out the time of the return trip or to try and identify if everyone who bought a return, ended up using the second portion and if not, why not? (there's nowt worse than missing that last bus unexpectedly and seeing the standard 'not enough demand for a later bus' trotted out).


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

Rob44



1,500
23 Jul 2019, 8:40 am #217
I asked this before and no one replied so i'll ask again. If i buy a alzone day ticket on the 28 and andreos1 buys a alzone day ticket on the 21 on the same day the QR code will be the same on both tickets? So they cant really track a ticket or am i wrong?
Rob44
23 Jul 2019, 8:40 am #217

I asked this before and no one replied so i'll ask again. If i buy a alzone day ticket on the 28 and andreos1 buys a alzone day ticket on the 21 on the same day the QR code will be the same on both tickets? So they cant really track a ticket or am i wrong?

23 Jul 2019, 8:55 am #218
(23 Jul 2019, 8:40 am)Rob44 I asked this before and no one replied so i'll ask again. If i buy a alzone day ticket on the 28 and andreos1 buys a alzone day ticket on the 21 on the same day the QR code will be the same on both tickets? So they cant really track a ticket or am i wrong?
Each QR code is unique, so even ones bought in the same bus will be different
streetdeckfan
23 Jul 2019, 8:55 am #218

(23 Jul 2019, 8:40 am)Rob44 I asked this before and no one replied so i'll ask again. If i buy a alzone day ticket on the 28 and andreos1 buys a alzone day ticket on the 21 on the same day the QR code will be the same on both tickets? So they cant really track a ticket or am i wrong?
Each QR code is unique, so even ones bought in the same bus will be different

Rob44



1,500
23 Jul 2019, 9:23 am #219
really? So in theory they would be able to see where i traveled with the ticket?
Rob44
23 Jul 2019, 9:23 am #219

really? So in theory they would be able to see where i traveled with the ticket?

cbma06



2,669
23 Jul 2019, 9:30 am #220
(23 Jul 2019, 9:23 am)Rob44 really? So in theory they would be able to see where i traveled with the ticket?


GNE been doing that for years, so there can see what kinda ticket you buy and your travel patterns


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cbma06
23 Jul 2019, 9:30 am #220

(23 Jul 2019, 9:23 am)Rob44 really? So in theory they would be able to see where i traveled with the ticket?


GNE been doing that for years, so there can see what kinda ticket you buy and your travel patterns


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