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18 Jul 2019, 7:22 pm #41

(18 Jul 2019, 7:13 pm)JM03 A X34 branded E400 is going to Newcastle NIS, is it going to walkerhate or slatyford, it’s not a X24 bc that’s passed me


I assume this will be operating the last or second last X34 from Newcastle?

AIG20
18 Jul 2019, 7:22 pm #41

(18 Jul 2019, 7:13 pm)JM03 A X34 branded E400 is going to Newcastle NIS, is it going to walkerhate or slatyford, it’s not a X24 bc that’s passed me


I assume this will be operating the last or second last X34 from Newcastle?

JM03



505
18 Jul 2019, 8:36 pm #42

(18 Jul 2019, 7:22 pm)AIG20


I assume this will be operating the last or second last X34 from Newcastle?


lat is around 7PM, about a hour earlier, it wasting over the Tyne Bridge towards NCL NIS

JM03
18 Jul 2019, 8:36 pm #42

(18 Jul 2019, 7:22 pm)AIG20


I assume this will be operating the last or second last X34 from Newcastle?


lat is around 7PM, about a hour earlier, it wasting over the Tyne Bridge towards NCL NIS

18 Jul 2019, 9:50 pm #43

(18 Jul 2019, 7:13 pm)JM03 A X34 branded E400 is going to Newcastle NIS, is it going to walkerhate or slatyford, it’s not a X24 bc that’s passed me


Probably running light to operate X34 ex Pilgrim St, depending what time it was

stagecoachbusdepot
18 Jul 2019, 9:50 pm #43

(18 Jul 2019, 7:13 pm)JM03 A X34 branded E400 is going to Newcastle NIS, is it going to walkerhate or slatyford, it’s not a X24 bc that’s passed me


Probably running light to operate X34 ex Pilgrim St, depending what time it was

19 Jul 2019, 4:58 pm #44

(16 Jul 2019, 12:14 pm)cbma06 Original service 17 was withdrawn between Sunderland and Seaburn camp, service 17 was soon back on the road running from Sunderland-Chester road-kayle road-hylton road-Sunderland, then the 17 was put on from Sunderland to Doxford Park running right in front of George Bell bus service 125 and the 17 was soon renumbered as service 25, George bell travel 125 didn’t last long.

Service 26 went to the forge.

There should be some timetables in the bygone era on the site .


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In the Busways era, there was supposed to be a new service 8 but last I heard it got shelved, if I remember correctly but could be wrong that it was going to be a minibus operation from Sunderland to Carley Hill via Southwick


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I remember the George Bell 125 and 17, they ran quite a peculiar route via Gilley Law and Silksworth. Don't think it even lasted a year before it was re-routed and renumbered 25.



Also didn't Favourite run an 8 with the 9 and 9A?

GrahamD83
19 Jul 2019, 4:58 pm #44

(16 Jul 2019, 12:14 pm)cbma06 Original service 17 was withdrawn between Sunderland and Seaburn camp, service 17 was soon back on the road running from Sunderland-Chester road-kayle road-hylton road-Sunderland, then the 17 was put on from Sunderland to Doxford Park running right in front of George Bell bus service 125 and the 17 was soon renumbered as service 25, George bell travel 125 didn’t last long.

Service 26 went to the forge.

There should be some timetables in the bygone era on the site .


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In the Busways era, there was supposed to be a new service 8 but last I heard it got shelved, if I remember correctly but could be wrong that it was going to be a minibus operation from Sunderland to Carley Hill via Southwick


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I remember the George Bell 125 and 17, they ran quite a peculiar route via Gilley Law and Silksworth. Don't think it even lasted a year before it was re-routed and renumbered 25.



Also didn't Favourite run an 8 with the 9 and 9A?

cbma06



2,669
19 Jul 2019, 5:45 pm #45
(19 Jul 2019, 4:58 pm)GrahamD83


I remember the George Bell 125 and 17, they ran quite a peculiar route via Gilley Law and Silksworth. Don't think it even lasted a year before it was re-routed and renumbered 25.



Also didn't Favourite run an 8 with the 9 and 9A?



Yea, George Bell went via plains farm while the Busways went via Springwell and thornley close, that’s how the 5 started off from doxford park to Boldon, I wonder if George Bell never put on service 125 then the 5 would of ever existed, yea when jolly bus came off, Busways put the 8/9/9a on, I think Busways only bought the bus service routes and not the buses or depot, as George Bell used the old jolly depot and also Welco used the depot aswell with bus service W20 and W21 between South Hylton and Sunderland


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cbma06
19 Jul 2019, 5:45 pm #45

(19 Jul 2019, 4:58 pm)GrahamD83


I remember the George Bell 125 and 17, they ran quite a peculiar route via Gilley Law and Silksworth. Don't think it even lasted a year before it was re-routed and renumbered 25.



Also didn't Favourite run an 8 with the 9 and 9A?



Yea, George Bell went via plains farm while the Busways went via Springwell and thornley close, that’s how the 5 started off from doxford park to Boldon, I wonder if George Bell never put on service 125 then the 5 would of ever existed, yea when jolly bus came off, Busways put the 8/9/9a on, I think Busways only bought the bus service routes and not the buses or depot, as George Bell used the old jolly depot and also Welco used the depot aswell with bus service W20 and W21 between South Hylton and Sunderland


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20 Jul 2019, 6:52 pm #46

(19 Jul 2019, 5:45 pm)cbma06 Yea, George Bell went via plains farm while the Busways went via Springwell and thornley close, that’s how the 5 started off from doxford park to Boldon, I wonder if George Bell never put on service 125 then the 5 would of ever existed, yea when jolly bus came off, Busways put the 8/9/9a on, I think Busways only bought the bus service routes and not the buses or depot, as George Bell used the old jolly depot and also Welco used the depot aswell with bus service W20 and W21 between South Hylton and Sunderland


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Thanks.


Still on the subject of old Sunderland Busways routes, (I know its the latest news thread and is probably off topic) I had always assumed they switched from three digits (1xx) to single/double digits at deregulation (except the 104 with was an extension of the 4), however there are images of buses running on route 107 to Downhill and 110 to Pennywell. Did these routes also operate alongside their respective 7 and 10 routes?


I remember the 7 running CBS - Witherwack via Newcastle Road, and the 10 presumably running the same route it does today.


Service 107

Service 110



GrahamD83
20 Jul 2019, 6:52 pm #46

(19 Jul 2019, 5:45 pm)cbma06 Yea, George Bell went via plains farm while the Busways went via Springwell and thornley close, that’s how the 5 started off from doxford park to Boldon, I wonder if George Bell never put on service 125 then the 5 would of ever existed, yea when jolly bus came off, Busways put the 8/9/9a on, I think Busways only bought the bus service routes and not the buses or depot, as George Bell used the old jolly depot and also Welco used the depot aswell with bus service W20 and W21 between South Hylton and Sunderland


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Thanks.


Still on the subject of old Sunderland Busways routes, (I know its the latest news thread and is probably off topic) I had always assumed they switched from three digits (1xx) to single/double digits at deregulation (except the 104 with was an extension of the 4), however there are images of buses running on route 107 to Downhill and 110 to Pennywell. Did these routes also operate alongside their respective 7 and 10 routes?


I remember the 7 running CBS - Witherwack via Newcastle Road, and the 10 presumably running the same route it does today.


Service 107

Service 110



20 Jul 2019, 6:54 pm #47

(20 Jul 2019, 6:52 pm)GrahamD83


Thanks.


Still on the subject of old Sunderland Busways routes, (I know its the latest news thread and is probably off topic) I had always assumed they switched from three digits (1xx) to single/double digits at deregulation (except the 104 with was an extension of the 4), however there are images of buses running on route 107 to Downhill and 110 to Pennywell. Did these routes also operate alongside their respective 7 and 10 routes?


I remember the 7 running CBS - Witherwack via Newcastle Road, and the 10 presumably running the same route it does today.


107: https://www.flickr.com/photos/adammalarkey/29007094157/in/album-72157693157775585/

110: https://www.flickr.com/photos/adammalarkey/29007094237/in/album-72157693157775585/





With the exception of the 100, 106 and 139/140 which were all secured services which were there from the start, the other 100 prefixed routes were introduced later in response to competition from TWOC.

stagecoachbusdepot
20 Jul 2019, 6:54 pm #47

(20 Jul 2019, 6:52 pm)GrahamD83


Thanks.


Still on the subject of old Sunderland Busways routes, (I know its the latest news thread and is probably off topic) I had always assumed they switched from three digits (1xx) to single/double digits at deregulation (except the 104 with was an extension of the 4), however there are images of buses running on route 107 to Downhill and 110 to Pennywell. Did these routes also operate alongside their respective 7 and 10 routes?


I remember the 7 running CBS - Witherwack via Newcastle Road, and the 10 presumably running the same route it does today.


107: https://www.flickr.com/photos/adammalarkey/29007094157/in/album-72157693157775585/

110: https://www.flickr.com/photos/adammalarkey/29007094237/in/album-72157693157775585/





With the exception of the 100, 106 and 139/140 which were all secured services which were there from the start, the other 100 prefixed routes were introduced later in response to competition from TWOC.

cbma06



2,669
20 Jul 2019, 7:12 pm #48
(20 Jul 2019, 6:54 pm)stagecoachbusdepot



With the exception of the 100, 106 and 139/140 which were all secured services which were there from the start, the other 100 prefixed routes were introduced later in response to competition from TWOC.



Yep, 104/107/110/115 were registered in front of Tyne and Wear omnibus Company 104/107/110/115

104 Doxford Park to Downhill
107 Witherwack to Grangetown
110 Grangetown to Pennywell
115 Sunderland to Hastings Hill.

I wonder how many people know the story why T.M.S started up T.W.O.C to compete against Busways in Tyne and Wear.


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cbma06
20 Jul 2019, 7:12 pm #48

(20 Jul 2019, 6:54 pm)stagecoachbusdepot



With the exception of the 100, 106 and 139/140 which were all secured services which were there from the start, the other 100 prefixed routes were introduced later in response to competition from TWOC.



Yep, 104/107/110/115 were registered in front of Tyne and Wear omnibus Company 104/107/110/115

104 Doxford Park to Downhill
107 Witherwack to Grangetown
110 Grangetown to Pennywell
115 Sunderland to Hastings Hill.

I wonder how many people know the story why T.M.S started up T.W.O.C to compete against Busways in Tyne and Wear.


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20 Jul 2019, 7:57 pm #49

(20 Jul 2019, 7:12 pm)cbma06 Yep, 104/107/110/115 were registered in front of Tyne and Wear omnibus Company 104/107/110/115

104 Doxford Park to Downhill
107 Witherwack to Grangetown
110 Grangetown to Pennywell
115 Sunderland to Hastings Hill.

I wonder how many people know the story why T.M.S started up T.W.O.C to compete against Busways in Tyne and Wear.


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Did Busways operate a 107 before the TWOC takeover?  I thought that was one they inherited when they took TWOC over in 1989 like the 116?

stagecoachbusdepot
20 Jul 2019, 7:57 pm #49

(20 Jul 2019, 7:12 pm)cbma06 Yep, 104/107/110/115 were registered in front of Tyne and Wear omnibus Company 104/107/110/115

104 Doxford Park to Downhill
107 Witherwack to Grangetown
110 Grangetown to Pennywell
115 Sunderland to Hastings Hill.

I wonder how many people know the story why T.M.S started up T.W.O.C to compete against Busways in Tyne and Wear.


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Did Busways operate a 107 before the TWOC takeover?  I thought that was one they inherited when they took TWOC over in 1989 like the 116?

cbma06



2,669
20 Jul 2019, 9:00 pm #50
(20 Jul 2019, 7:57 pm)stagecoachbusdepot


Did Busways operate a 107 before the TWOC takeover?  I thought that was one they inherited when they took TWOC over in 1989 like the 116?



Yes , 107 operated in front of TWOC 107 same as 104/110/115, after the takeover of TWOC routes all Busways mini Busways routes got turned into Tyne and Wear Omnibus Company name for a period of time


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cbma06
20 Jul 2019, 9:00 pm #50

(20 Jul 2019, 7:57 pm)stagecoachbusdepot


Did Busways operate a 107 before the TWOC takeover?  I thought that was one they inherited when they took TWOC over in 1989 like the 116?



Yes , 107 operated in front of TWOC 107 same as 104/110/115, after the takeover of TWOC routes all Busways mini Busways routes got turned into Tyne and Wear Omnibus Company name for a period of time


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LVK 404L



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21 Jul 2019, 7:33 am #51

(20 Jul 2019, 9:00 pm)cbma06 Yes , 107 operated in front of TWOC 107 same as 104/110/115, after the takeover of TWOC routes all Busways mini Busways routes got turned into Tyne and Wear Omnibus Company name for a period of time


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Except for in South Shields. We kept our mini buses in standard livery and obtained the old TWOC LHs to operate the X2 service which was inherited but in a reduced route of just Sunderland to South Shields as opposed to TWOCS X2 of Thorney Close - Sunderland - South Shields - Biddick Hall

LVK 404L
21 Jul 2019, 7:33 am #51

(20 Jul 2019, 9:00 pm)cbma06 Yes , 107 operated in front of TWOC 107 same as 104/110/115, after the takeover of TWOC routes all Busways mini Busways routes got turned into Tyne and Wear Omnibus Company name for a period of time


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Except for in South Shields. We kept our mini buses in standard livery and obtained the old TWOC LHs to operate the X2 service which was inherited but in a reduced route of just Sunderland to South Shields as opposed to TWOCS X2 of Thorney Close - Sunderland - South Shields - Biddick Hall

Michael



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26 Jul 2019, 6:33 pm #52
New bus station map is on the NEXUS site for the new Shields Bus station:

Services departing from each stand below:

Stand A: 10, 516, 960
Stand B: 8
Stand C: 7
Stand D: E1, E2, E6
Stand E: 30
Stand F: 20
Stand G: 1, 4
Stand H: 2, 3
Stand J: 5, 50/50A, TB503
Stand K: 17
Stand L: 18
Stand M: 26
Stand N: 27
Stand P: 12, X20

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
26 Jul 2019, 6:33 pm #52

New bus station map is on the NEXUS site for the new Shields Bus station:

Services departing from each stand below:

Stand A: 10, 516, 960
Stand B: 8
Stand C: 7
Stand D: E1, E2, E6
Stand E: 30
Stand F: 20
Stand G: 1, 4
Stand H: 2, 3
Stand J: 5, 50/50A, TB503
Stand K: 17
Stand L: 18
Stand M: 26
Stand N: 27
Stand P: 12, X20


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

AIG20



378
27 Jul 2019, 10:14 am #53

The destination displays for the E1 & E6 have been updated for this years Air Show. They now show "Seaburn for the Air Show" instead of "Seaburn Morrisons" or "Seaburn Camp" which were used in previous years.



(26 Jul 2019, 6:33 pm)Michael New bus station map is on the NEXUS site for the new Shields Bus station:

Services departing from each stand below:

Stand A: 10, 516, 960
Stand B: 8
Stand C: 7
Stand D: E1, E2, E6
Stand E: 30
Stand F: 20
Stand G: 1, 4
Stand H: 2, 3
Stand J: 5, 50/50A, TB503
Stand K: 17
Stand L: 18
Stand M: 26
Stand N: 27
Stand P: 12, X20


I wonder if there is enough room for two buses (or one to wait behind another). What could happen if for example, an E6 turns up late and the E1 turns up on time? As the driver would not be able to see if the stand is in use until they have entered the bus station?

Edited 27 Jul 2019, 10:18 am by AIG20.
AIG20
27 Jul 2019, 10:14 am #53

The destination displays for the E1 & E6 have been updated for this years Air Show. They now show "Seaburn for the Air Show" instead of "Seaburn Morrisons" or "Seaburn Camp" which were used in previous years.



(26 Jul 2019, 6:33 pm)Michael New bus station map is on the NEXUS site for the new Shields Bus station:

Services departing from each stand below:

Stand A: 10, 516, 960
Stand B: 8
Stand C: 7
Stand D: E1, E2, E6
Stand E: 30
Stand F: 20
Stand G: 1, 4
Stand H: 2, 3
Stand J: 5, 50/50A, TB503
Stand K: 17
Stand L: 18
Stand M: 26
Stand N: 27
Stand P: 12, X20


I wonder if there is enough room for two buses (or one to wait behind another). What could happen if for example, an E6 turns up late and the E1 turns up on time? As the driver would not be able to see if the stand is in use until they have entered the bus station?

27 Jul 2019, 10:28 pm #54
I can see shields new bus station going to be realy hetic
Gonorth91
27 Jul 2019, 10:28 pm #54

I can see shields new bus station going to be realy hetic

27 Jul 2019, 11:30 pm #55
Gonorth91 I can’t wait for that day to happen at the new interchange. Robin
Robin Tait
27 Jul 2019, 11:30 pm #55

Gonorth91 I can’t wait for that day to happen at the new interchange. Robin

missedbus



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28 Jul 2019, 1:47 am #56

(27 Jul 2019, 10:14 am)AIG20

The destination displays for the E1 & E6 have been updated for this years Air Show. They now show "Seaburn for the Air Show" instead of "Seaburn Morrisons" or "Seaburn Camp" which were used in previous years.




I wonder if there is enough room for two buses (or one to wait behind another). What could happen if for example, an E6 turns up late and the E1 turns up on time? As the driver would not be able to see if the stand is in use until they have entered the bus station?


Stand E is supposedly for route 30, which only runs hourly. Most of the time that stand will be empty, meaning that E's will probably squat on it if D is occupied.

missedbus
28 Jul 2019, 1:47 am #56

(27 Jul 2019, 10:14 am)AIG20

The destination displays for the E1 & E6 have been updated for this years Air Show. They now show "Seaburn for the Air Show" instead of "Seaburn Morrisons" or "Seaburn Camp" which were used in previous years.




I wonder if there is enough room for two buses (or one to wait behind another). What could happen if for example, an E6 turns up late and the E1 turns up on time? As the driver would not be able to see if the stand is in use until they have entered the bus station?


Stand E is supposedly for route 30, which only runs hourly. Most of the time that stand will be empty, meaning that E's will probably squat on it if D is occupied.

V514DFT



2,225
30 Jul 2019, 7:56 pm #57
Jesus 19670 is in a shocking state

Kind Regards
Tez
V514DFT
30 Jul 2019, 7:56 pm #57

Jesus 19670 is in a shocking state


Kind Regards
Tez

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