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S813 FVK

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08 Feb 2016, 10:03 pm #641

43300 now carries a revised version of the '100 years of Craigentinny' livery:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/steam60163/24795991275/

S813 FVK

08 Feb 2016, 10:03 pm #641

43300 now carries a revised version of the '100 years of Craigentinny' livery:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/steam60163/24795991275/

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09 Feb 2016, 5:05 pm #642

(08 Feb 2016, 10:03 pm)S813 FVK 43300 now carries a revised version of the '100 years of Craigentinny' livery:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/steam60163/24795991275/

I miss the East Coast liveries. And East Coast in general.

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09 Feb 2016, 5:05 pm #642

(08 Feb 2016, 10:03 pm)S813 FVK 43300 now carries a revised version of the '100 years of Craigentinny' livery:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/steam60163/24795991275/

I miss the East Coast liveries. And East Coast in general.

Andreos1

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15 Feb 2016, 10:05 am #643

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-sc...s-35576875

VTEC to increase frequency north of Newcastle.

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Andreos1

15 Feb 2016, 10:05 am #643

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-sc...s-35576875

VTEC to increase frequency north of Newcastle.

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South Tyne Lad

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15 Feb 2016, 1:00 pm #644

(15 Feb 2016, 10:05 am)Andreos1 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-sc...s-35576875

VTEC to increase frequency north of Newcastle.

This is the extension of the Newcastle Semi-Fasts with a 3rd Newcastle Semi-Fast terminator to follow in the Future.

South Tyne Lad

15 Feb 2016, 1:00 pm #644

(15 Feb 2016, 10:05 am)Andreos1 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-sc...s-35576875

VTEC to increase frequency north of Newcastle.

This is the extension of the Newcastle Semi-Fasts with a 3rd Newcastle Semi-Fast terminator to follow in the Future.

Andreos1

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15 Feb 2016, 3:52 pm #645

(15 Feb 2016, 1:00 pm)South Tyne Lad This is the extension of the Newcastle Semi-Fasts with a 3rd Newcastle Semi-Fast terminator to follow in the Future.

They have said there are four additional services north and four south. Not two or three.

Apparently they are the 06:15, 10:30, 13:30 and 17:30 services out of KX. All semi-fasts.

Looking quickly at the timetable, the only bottom of the hour trains to extend north of Newcastle currently are the:
0730, 0930, 1130, 1530 (GLC), 1630, 1830 and 1930.

This extension fills quite a few of those gaps. Particularly in the PM.

Edited 15 Feb 2016, 3:52 pm by Andreos1.

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Andreos1

15 Feb 2016, 3:52 pm #645

(15 Feb 2016, 1:00 pm)South Tyne Lad This is the extension of the Newcastle Semi-Fasts with a 3rd Newcastle Semi-Fast terminator to follow in the Future.

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citaro5284

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15 Feb 2016, 5:51 pm #646

(15 Feb 2016, 10:05 am)Andreos1 VTEC to increase frequency north of Newcastle.

From VTEC website....

https://www.virgintrainseastcoast.com/ne...don-route/

citaro5284

15 Feb 2016, 5:51 pm #646

(15 Feb 2016, 10:05 am)Andreos1 VTEC to increase frequency north of Newcastle.

From VTEC website....

https://www.virgintrainseastcoast.com/ne...don-route/

South Tyne Lad

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15 Feb 2016, 7:07 pm #647

(15 Feb 2016, 3:52 pm)Andreos1 They have said there are four additional services north and four south. Not two or three.

Apparently they are the 06:15, 10:30, 13:30 and 17:30 services out of KX. All semi-fasts.

Looking quickly at the timetable, the only bottom of the hour trains to extend north of Newcastle currently are the:
0730, 0930, 1130, 1530 (GLC), 1630, 1830 and 1930.

This extension fills quite a few of those gaps. Particularly in the PM.

No I meant the 2nd train per hour to Edinburgh is the Newcastle Terminator extended to Edinburgh.
And VTEC as part of their franchise commitment have to introduce 3tph between Newcastle - London and Leeds - London and 2tph between London - Edinburgh by 2017

South Tyne Lad

15 Feb 2016, 7:07 pm #647

(15 Feb 2016, 3:52 pm)Andreos1 They have said there are four additional services north and four south. Not two or three.

Apparently they are the 06:15, 10:30, 13:30 and 17:30 services out of KX. All semi-fasts.

Looking quickly at the timetable, the only bottom of the hour trains to extend north of Newcastle currently are the:
0730, 0930, 1130, 1530 (GLC), 1630, 1830 and 1930.

This extension fills quite a few of those gaps. Particularly in the PM.

Andreos1

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15 Feb 2016, 7:29 pm #648

(15 Feb 2016, 7:07 pm)South Tyne Lad No I meant the 2nd train per hour to Edinburgh is the Newcastle Terminator extended to Edinburgh.
And VTEC as part of their franchise commitment have to introduce 3tph between Newcastle - London and Leeds - London and 2tph between London - Edinburgh by 2017

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicatio...-agreement

All of the documents relating to the franchise agreement.
Including stations and min number of calls.

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Andreos1

15 Feb 2016, 7:29 pm #648

(15 Feb 2016, 7:07 pm)South Tyne Lad No I meant the 2nd train per hour to Edinburgh is the Newcastle Terminator extended to Edinburgh.
And VTEC as part of their franchise commitment have to introduce 3tph between Newcastle - London and Leeds - London and 2tph between London - Edinburgh by 2017

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicatio...-agreement

All of the documents relating to the franchise agreement.
Including stations and min number of calls.

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South Tyne Lad

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16 Feb 2016, 10:10 pm #649

(15 Feb 2016, 7:29 pm)Andreos1 https://www.gov.uk/government/publicatio...-agreement

All of the documents relating to the franchise agreement.
Including stations and min number of calls.

I was going by the Network Rail 2020 ECML Capacity Timetable Assessment. http://orr.gov.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file...c-2014.pdf
York to Newcastle is from Page 43 downwards and includes the desired amount of services down that section of the ECML from/by 2020.
It quotes :

It includes 3 VTEC IEP Paths an hour and 1 Open Accsess path timed for Alliance Rails Class 390 Pendolino Proposal = 3tph VTEC LDN - NCL and 1tph OAC LDN - NCL

Newcastle to Edinburgh is from Page 49 and includes 2 VTEC paths an hour and 1 Open Accsess path a hour timed for Alliances 390 proposal.
It also includes the Scottish Govermants Proposal for a Berwick or Newcastle to Edinburgh Stopping Service and other things.

1 Thing is that the TPE Paths are out of date as TPE are ordering 125 mph at the least capable Multiple Units instead of 100 Mph EMUs

There are other interesting things in there that would take ages to write in here but the link is above if you want to read it.

Edited 16 Feb 2016, 10:11 pm by South Tyne Lad.

South Tyne Lad

16 Feb 2016, 10:10 pm #649

(15 Feb 2016, 7:29 pm)Andreos1 https://www.gov.uk/government/publicatio...-agreement

All of the documents relating to the franchise agreement.
Including stations and min number of calls.

Andreos1

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16 Feb 2016, 11:10 pm #650

(16 Feb 2016, 10:10 pm)South Tyne Lad I was going by the Network Rail 2020 ECML Capacity Timetable Assessment. http://orr.gov.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file...c-2014.pdf
York to Newcastle is from Page 43 downwards and includes the desired amount of services down that section of the ECML from/by 2020.
It quotes :

It includes 3 VTEC IEP Paths an hour and 1 Open Accsess path timed for Alliance Rails Class 390 Pendolino Proposal = 3tph VTEC LDN - NCL and 1tph OAC LDN - NCL

Newcastle to Edinburgh is from Page 49 and includes 2 VTEC paths an hour and 1 Open Accsess path a hour timed for Alliances 390 proposal.
It also includes the Scottish Govermants Proposal for a Berwick or Newcastle to Edinburgh Stopping Service and other things.

1 Thing is that the TPE Paths are out of date as TPE are ordering 125 mph at the least capable Multiple Units instead of 100 Mph EMUs

There are other interesting things in there that would take ages to write in here but the link is above if you want to read it.

Those documents make interesting reading, but is just an assessment to scope out what may happen.
There are several scenarios in the document - including additional track between Birtley and Ouston Jcts (removed during electrification if I remember correctly), new/lengthened loops, new platforms, infrastructure improvements on Durham Coast and Stillington lines, power issues north of Doncaster, concerns relating to the Newark Crossing, opening disused tunnels at Kings Cross and platform capacity concerns at Newcastle and Edinburgh.

My own thoughts are that the plans aren't likely to happen - particularly those south of the region (regardless of costs), due to the Governments obsession with HS2.
Services from the north east will be directed towards the Yorkshire hub in order to justify the vanity of HS2.
I can't see the costs in improving the ECML, being justifiable in light of HS2 and the current state of the treasury.

I haven't compared franchise agreements with the scenarios suggested in the capability analysis. It would take far too long and I can't be bothered - and cos I have seen enough reports today to last a lifetime! Wink

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Andreos1

16 Feb 2016, 11:10 pm #650

(16 Feb 2016, 10:10 pm)South Tyne Lad I was going by the Network Rail 2020 ECML Capacity Timetable Assessment. http://orr.gov.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file...c-2014.pdf
York to Newcastle is from Page 43 downwards and includes the desired amount of services down that section of the ECML from/by 2020.
It quotes :

It includes 3 VTEC IEP Paths an hour and 1 Open Accsess path timed for Alliance Rails Class 390 Pendolino Proposal = 3tph VTEC LDN - NCL and 1tph OAC LDN - NCL

Newcastle to Edinburgh is from Page 49 and includes 2 VTEC paths an hour and 1 Open Accsess path a hour timed for Alliances 390 proposal.
It also includes the Scottish Govermants Proposal for a Berwick or Newcastle to Edinburgh Stopping Service and other things.

1 Thing is that the TPE Paths are out of date as TPE are ordering 125 mph at the least capable Multiple Units instead of 100 Mph EMUs

There are other interesting things in there that would take ages to write in here but the link is above if you want to read it.

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JoshP

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29 Feb 2016, 9:48 am #651

Have all train sets been fully repainted in VTEC livery? Is every train set due an internal refurb, even the ones due to be replaced in 2 years?

JoshP

29 Feb 2016, 9:48 am #651

Have all train sets been fully repainted in VTEC livery? Is every train set due an internal refurb, even the ones due to be replaced in 2 years?

omnicity4659

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29 Feb 2016, 10:36 am #652

(29 Feb 2016, 9:48 am)JoshP Have all train sets been fully repainted in VTEC livery? Is every train set due an internal refurb, even the ones due to be replaced in 2 years?

I'm sure most if not all are now in VTEC livery, all trains are being refurbished, yes.

omnicity4659

29 Feb 2016, 10:36 am #652

(29 Feb 2016, 9:48 am)JoshP Have all train sets been fully repainted in VTEC livery? Is every train set due an internal refurb, even the ones due to be replaced in 2 years?

I'm sure most if not all are now in VTEC livery, all trains are being refurbished, yes.

citaro5284

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18 Mar 2016, 9:55 am #653

Some sort of press conference this morning at Kings Cross.....Introducing Virgin Amuza

https://www.virgintrainseastcoast.com/azuma

Edited 18 Mar 2016, 9:59 am by citaro5284.

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citaro5284

18 Mar 2016, 9:55 am #653

Some sort of press conference this morning at Kings Cross.....Introducing Virgin Amuza

https://www.virgintrainseastcoast.com/azuma

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Andreos1

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18 Mar 2016, 10:03 am #654

(18 Mar 2016, 9:55 am)citaro5284 Some sort of press conference this morning at Kings Cross.....Introducing Virgin Amuza

https://www.virgintrainseastcoast.com/azuma

They love taking credit for things that were well in motion before their involvement...

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Andreos1

18 Mar 2016, 10:03 am #654

(18 Mar 2016, 9:55 am)citaro5284 Some sort of press conference this morning at Kings Cross.....Introducing Virgin Amuza

https://www.virgintrainseastcoast.com/azuma

They love taking credit for things that were well in motion before their involvement...

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19 Mar 2016, 7:57 am #655

(18 Mar 2016, 9:55 am)citaro5284 Some sort of press conference this morning at Kings Cross.....Introducing Virgin Amuza

https://www.virgintrainseastcoast.com/azuma

I really don't like that variant of the livery. I hope they stick with the present variant they use. The grey doesn't seem right.

8222

19 Mar 2016, 7:57 am #655

(18 Mar 2016, 9:55 am)citaro5284 Some sort of press conference this morning at Kings Cross.....Introducing Virgin Amuza

https://www.virgintrainseastcoast.com/azuma

I really don't like that variant of the livery. I hope they stick with the present variant they use. The grey doesn't seem right.

Andreos1

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20 Mar 2016, 8:52 pm #656

Heworth heading 'East'?

http://saveecrewards.co.uk/blog/virgin-azuma-heworth

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Andreos1

20 Mar 2016, 8:52 pm #656

Heworth heading 'East'?

http://saveecrewards.co.uk/blog/virgin-azuma-heworth

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Adrian

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20 Mar 2016, 8:58 pm #657

(20 Mar 2016, 8:52 pm)Andreos1 Heworth heading 'East'?

http://saveecrewards.co.uk/blog/virgin-azuma-heworth

I don't agree with that one mind. Mainline trains should stick to being of an express nature. Stations like Heworth should be served by regional rail, and of course we have the Metro every couple of minutes too.

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Adrian

20 Mar 2016, 8:58 pm #657

(20 Mar 2016, 8:52 pm)Andreos1 Heworth heading 'East'?

http://saveecrewards.co.uk/blog/virgin-azuma-heworth

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21 Mar 2016, 8:15 pm #658

(20 Mar 2016, 8:58 pm)Adrian I don't agree with that one mind. Mainline trains should stick to being of an express nature. Stations like Heworth should be served by regional rail, and of course we have the Metro every couple of minutes too.

The station is wide enough but the is enough transport to newcastle so not sure

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biglugs@yahoo.com

21 Mar 2016, 8:15 pm #658

(20 Mar 2016, 8:58 pm)Adrian I don't agree with that one mind. Mainline trains should stick to being of an express nature. Stations like Heworth should be served by regional rail, and of course we have the Metro every couple of minutes too.

The station is wide enough but the is enough transport to newcastle so not sure

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Adrian

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21 Mar 2016, 8:15 pm #659

(21 Mar 2016, 8:15 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com The station is wide enough but the is enough transport to newcastle so not sure

Not sure I understand what you're saying?

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Adrian

21 Mar 2016, 8:15 pm #659

(21 Mar 2016, 8:15 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com The station is wide enough but the is enough transport to newcastle so not sure

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21 Mar 2016, 8:17 pm #660

(21 Mar 2016, 8:15 pm)Adrian Not sure I understand what you're saying?

There is enough trains stopping at heworth if you count the metro

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biglugs@yahoo.com

21 Mar 2016, 8:17 pm #660

(21 Mar 2016, 8:15 pm)Adrian Not sure I understand what you're saying?

There is enough trains stopping at heworth if you count the metro

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